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| lazyPower | fuzzy_: still wrestling with mongodb? | 01:05 |
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| fuzzy_ | lazyPower: yes | 01:09 |
| fuzzy_ | Following, https://maas.ubuntu.com/2012/11/30/lets-shard-something/ using the command "juju add-relation mongos:mongos-cfg configsvr:configsvr" I get "ERROR service "mongos" not found". What am I doing wrong? | 01:09 |
| lazyPower | do you have a service named 'mongos' deployed? | 01:09 |
| fuzzy_ | not that I see | 01:10 |
| fuzzy_ | that's why the howto doesn't make sense | 01:10 |
| lazyPower | fuzzy_: are you trying to deploy the sharded/replicated cluster? there is a bundle for it | 01:12 |
| lazyPower | that howto looks really old | 01:12 |
| lazyPower | https://jujucharms.com/bundle/mongodb/5/cluster/ | 01:12 |
| lazyPower | take care to note that there are 3 replicated units per shard/configsvr | 01:12 |
| lazyPower | thats 13 total units listed in that bundle | 01:13 |
| fuzzy_ | thank you | 01:13 |
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| lazyPower | fuzzy_: the mongodb charm is notoriously finicky as well. I've put some elbow grease into it in the past - if you run into any issues with it please file bugs here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/mongodb | 01:14 |
| fuzzy_ | i'm just going to reroll everything and try one more time | 01:15 |
| lazyPower | ok. I typically have to do that when i botch a mongodb deploy as well, start over from scratch | 01:18 |
| lazyPower | there appears to be a race condition in teh charm I haven't tracked down on one of the roles. | 01:18 |
| lazyPower | sorry about the weak experience with the charm :( MongoDB has been a problem child for me when triaging/maintaining | 01:18 |
| lazyPower | I'm open to any suggestions on how we can make it a better experience, any documented cases / examples will definately help as we move forward with the next iteration. | 01:19 |
| fuzzy_ | i'm curious why python-yaml ins't part of a machine bootstrap | 01:19 |
| lazyPower | I've run into this on 2 substrates - DigitalOcean and Linode | 01:20 |
| lazyPower | its standard on AWS, HPCloud, and Joyent | 01:20 |
| fuzzy_ | i figured that is sort of lsb stuff | 01:20 |
| fuzzy_ | ah | 01:20 |
| lazyPower | i think they are using modified cloud images, but i have no data to back up my claim | 01:20 |
| lazyPower | I've had to go back through and add the python-yaml dependency to any of the python based charms as i run across them testing on DO | 01:21 |
| fuzzy_ | you hooked the do api | 01:21 |
| fuzzy_ | is it fully automated yet? | 01:21 |
| lazyPower | mostly - its a phaux provider | 01:21 |
| lazyPower | https://github.com/kapilt/juju-digitalocean | 01:21 |
| fuzzy_ | because linode does have an api | 01:21 |
| fuzzy_ | and it's not hard to hook | 01:21 |
| lazyPower | mhm, i've mentioned this approach to you before | 01:22 |
| fuzzy_ | i just didn't know how hard the juju side of it would be | 01:22 |
| fuzzy_ | i know you did | 01:22 |
| fuzzy_ | i just lost the link | 01:22 |
| lazyPower | well that plugin is about all i can reference for you - i'm not familiar enough with core to make a recommendation. | 01:22 |
| fuzzy_ | do you use it to admin your do boxes? | 01:22 |
| lazyPower | however hazmat has all teh goods when he's around. he's the author of that plugin. | 01:22 |
| lazyPower | i do. I've got ~ 6 nodes running on DO right now | 01:22 |
| fuzzy_ | hmmmmmmm | 01:23 |
| lazyPower | (including the api server) | 01:23 |
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| fuzzy_ | damn that drives a hard bargin | 01:25 |
| fuzzy_ | are you using digital oceans private network to do the deed? | 01:27 |
| fuzzy_ | lamont: | 01:27 |
| fuzzy_ | ack | 01:27 |
| fuzzy_ | lazyPower: | 01:27 |
| lazyPower | I'm watching ;) no need to ping | 01:27 |
| lazyPower | Yeah, it automatically adds the private networking to the droplet. | 01:27 |
| fuzzy_ | *sigh* I hope this is worth it | 01:31 |
| * fuzzy_ crosses fingers | 01:31 | |
| fuzzy_ | lazyPower: see if you got any digital ocean promo codes for new accounts so you can get hooked up with this | 01:33 |
| lazyPower | i do actually, 1 moment | 01:34 |
| lazyPower | https://www.digitalocean.com/?refcode=b6ac387b6f36 - $10 free credit with a new account | 01:34 |
| fuzzy_ | ok I think I got a do account now | 01:44 |
| lazyPower | awesome | 01:44 |
| fuzzy_ | awww crap | 01:45 |
| lamont | lol | 01:45 |
| fuzzy_ | stupid do | 01:45 |
| lazyPower | ? | 01:45 |
| fuzzy_ | this might not actually work | 01:45 |
| fuzzy_ | remember when they screwed up nyc2 for all those weeks last year? | 01:46 |
| lazyPower | mhmm, the juniper upgrade | 01:46 |
| fuzzy_ | well i moved everything off of them | 01:46 |
| fuzzy_ | but one of the droplets kept running until it racked up a bill | 01:46 |
| lazyPower | whoops | 01:47 |
| fuzzy_ | and I told them no way I was paying it, I wasn't even using the box it was a left over from an idle | 01:47 |
| fuzzy_ | now they just took $5 out of paypal and locked my account | 01:47 |
| fuzzy_ | before i could make a droplet | 01:47 |
| fuzzy_ | oh nope there it goes | 01:47 |
| fuzzy_ | whooo | 01:47 |
| fuzzy_ | ok i'm in business | 01:48 |
| lazyPower | the DO guys are really reasonable. | 01:48 |
| lazyPower | Every time i've reachedo ut or support i get an answer in an hour or less, and 90% of the time its resolution. | 01:49 |
| lazyPower | *out for | 01:49 |
| fuzzy_ | actually nope | 01:49 |
| fuzzy_ | i'm locked | 01:49 |
| fuzzy_ | lets seee | 01:49 |
| fuzzy_ | but now i'm limited to 1 droplet | 01:50 |
| lazyPower | I'd open a ticket and explain whats going on | 01:51 |
| lazyPower | they should crank you up to 5 instances for your first month or so | 01:51 |
| fuzzy_ | I just did | 01:52 |
| fuzzy_ | now I wait | 01:52 |
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| fuzzy_ | https://github.com/charms/mongodb when I try juju deploy mongos i get failure | 02:42 |
| fuzzy_ | weird it took that time | 02:43 |
| fuzzy_ | lazyPower: http://hastebin.com/dadetadepu.sm | 02:53 |
| fuzzy_ | it claims to be running, but i can't seem to find the exposed console for mongo | 02:53 |
| fuzzy_ | yea i don't get it, netstat on that box shows it's listening to 28017, i made sure to disable it's firewall and i still can't see it remotely | 02:58 |
| fuzzy_ | http://hastebin.com/patadakepo.hs | 03:00 |
| fuzzy_ | makes no sense | 03:00 |
| fuzzy_ | So reading the juju log on mongos/0 i get alot of permission denied. I think that might be because of ufw | 03:03 |
| fuzzy_ | i'm going to tear it down and retry without ufw and ssh configured differently | 03:03 |
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| fuzzy | yea it was ufw fighting me i got a mongo console lazyPower | 07:10 |
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| jamespage | gnuoy`, nudge - https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/charms/trusty/nova-cloud-controller/cluster-sync-fix/+merge/234475 | 15:56 |
| gnuoy` | ack | 15:56 |
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| marcoceppi | Review Queue is going down for an upgrade | 17:07 |
| marcoceppi | Review Queue is going down for an upgrade | 17:08 |
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| mbruzek | Hey marcoceppi since we have automated testing now, we should start requiring all new charms to have tests. | 20:12 |
| whit | mbruzek, that's what I thought the policy was... I didn't realize it hadn't been more widely disseminated | 20:14 |
| marcoceppi | mbruzek: that's not a bad idea, we should propose this policy to the list | 20:14 |
| whit | jose, sorry about that :[ | 20:14 |
| marcoceppi | There's a bunch of previous talks about it on the list, I'll round them up and make a new post | 20:15 |
| jose | whit: don't worry, not a prob :) | 20:16 |
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| marcoceppi | Should we consider unit testing sufficient? | 20:49 |
| marcoceppi | mbruzek lazyPower jose ^? et al | 20:50 |
| jose | what would you define as unit testing? | 20:50 |
| marcoceppi | anything that tests the hooks without being deployed | 20:51 |
| jose | I would be good with something saying 'hey! I deployed mycharm successfully, even though I haven't accessed it it didn't error while deploying+relating!" | 20:51 |
| jose | would that be unit testing? | 20:51 |
| marcoceppi | so, some charms have python unit tests | 20:52 |
| mbruzek | marcoceppi, I don't see how we can ask authors to write python tests if they don't know it. | 20:52 |
| marcoceppi | would that be enough to satisify new policy for all chams need tests | 20:52 |
| marcoceppi | mbruzek: I'm saying, is unittesting enougth to satisfy testing or should we required functional/integration testing as well? | 20:53 |
| mbruzek | marcoceppi, could they write a bash deployment or a bundle | 20:53 |
| marcoceppi | that's not unit testing, that's fucntional testoing | 20:53 |
| marcoceppi | and that's basically what we think of testing today, a la bundle/amulet tests | 20:53 |
| mbruzek | marcoceppi, I think we should unit test at minimum but HIGHLY suggest having a bundle or amulet test that deploys a working unit. | 20:54 |
| jose | I have to leave for uni. Giving some input later. | 20:54 |
| marcoceppi | jose: thanks o/ | 20:54 |
| marcoceppi | mbruzek: right, that's my question, is unittesting enough to satisfy testing requirement in policy | 20:55 |
| mbruzek | yes. | 20:56 |
| mbruzek | I don't like only unit tests because I still may not know how to deploy said charm. | 20:56 |
| marcoceppi | cool, I'll wait for feedback from jose and lazyPower and draft teh policy | 20:56 |
| marcoceppi | mbruzek: that;'s a readme issue | 20:56 |
| marcoceppi | and nackable based on that alone | 20:56 |
| mbruzek | yes. | 20:56 |
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| lazyPower | marcoceppi: i think unit tests or integratino tests at bare minimum. i've been treating it as an either/or | 21:46 |
| lazyPower | marcoceppi: my reasoning is we still have a ton of bash charms in the store, and bash hasn't exhibited any ground breaking unit test frameworks. | 21:47 |
| mbruzek | +1 lazyPower | 21:58 |
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