[20:02] <thomi> hey barry, how's it going?
[20:17] <barry> thomi: hiya!  good, and you?
[20:17] <thomi> barry: excellent - just got back from Kiwi PyCon, which was awesome
[20:17] <thomi> met Nick Coghlan, who I assume you know
[20:18] <barry> yep! :)  glad it was fun
[20:18] <thomi> I also realise I've completely missed the submission deadline for pycon US as well :(
[20:18] <thomi> ahh well
[20:19] <barry> thomi: um, i think today (it's still monday here in us/eastern) is the deadline.  i got two submissions in late last week, but i think you could probably get them in now
[20:19] <thomi> barry: yeah, but I have nothing prepared, and they want a lot of information
[20:19] <thomi> but... maybe I should cram today and sort something out
[20:20] <barry> thomi: i pulled something out of my ass in about an hour :)
[20:20] <thomi> heh
[20:20] <barry> yeah, definitely go for it
[20:21] <barry> thomi: i submitted one on packaging for debian, and another on python dbus
[20:21] <thomi> wow... feeling masochistic huh?
[20:21] <thomi> python dbus
[20:21] <thomi> .... needs to die
[20:22] <barry> yeah, i definitely know more about it than i should admit to in public
[20:22] <thomi> heh
[20:22] <thomi> I was thinking of submitting something outlining the 'Robert Collins' testing stack: testtools, subunit, testscenarios, testr.... and why it rocks. What do you think?
[20:23] <thomi> *or* I could recycle the autopilot talk I gave at KPC last year
[20:23] <barry> i like them both.  once you do one, it's easy to submit another.  doesn't have to be perfect afaict
[20:23] <thomi> cool
[20:23] <thomi> will do that today then
[20:23] <thomi> anway, I wanted to ask you...
[20:24] <thomi> *anyway
[20:24] <thomi> I want to get trv (launchpad.net/trv) into Ubuntu and *maybe* Debian - I think I should start acting like a 'proper' upstream - i.e.- doing real upstream release tarballs, without an embedded debian/ dir
[20:24] <thomi> I've started by separating my packaging branch out from trunk
[20:25] <thomi> but now I'm wondering: what's the best place to put a pure-python application release? Pypi doesn't seem like a great fit (since it's an app)... launchpad? somewhere else?
[20:26] <barry> there are applications on pypi (gtimelog comes to mind), so it's not crazy.  lp is certainly appropriate too
[20:26] <thomi> and I guess, since I'm packaging for debian I can't upload a universal wheel, right?
[20:26] <barry> you could of course upload the wheel to pypi, but no, we strictly limit the wheels allowed in debian
[20:30] <thomi> oh, in case you're interested - photos from the weekend: https://secure.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/sets/72157647422343846
[20:34] <barry> hmm, i think the secure bit is messing with me.  guess i have to log in :/
[20:51] <cgoldberg> thomi, there's plenty of apps on PyPI.. not just libraries.... I think that's the appropriate place to upload pure-python packages.  It also makes pip install hella easy
[20:51] <thomi> ok
[23:28] <thomi> barry: two talks submitted. Now I need to keep my fingers crossed for a while I guess :)
[23:29] <thomi> barry: or, maybe find someone who's plugged into the paper reviewers to give my talk submissions some extra mojo *winks*
[23:37] <barry> +1!