=== Laney is now known as Guest69163 === wgrant_ is now known as wgrnat === wgrnat is now known as wgrant [03:05] === trainguards: RTM IMAGE 40 building (started: 20140915 03:05) === [04:25] === trainguards: RTM IMAGE 40 DONE (finished: 20140915 04:25) === [04:25] === changelog: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/40.changes === [04:52] May I ask for a silo to the line 58 ? [04:53] Mirv: Do you know who from QA team is in the CE timezone? The silo9 is ready to land. [04:55] It may be a little while... looks like 4 silos are in queue before rtm-009. [04:55] I'll be trying to get through some of those before I sleep though. [04:55] (and others should be around in ~3 hours) [05:09] ToyKeeper: Is it possible to re-prioritize the UITK silo? This bug is fixed and it was proven to be a dialer app bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/dialer-app/+bug/1368295 [05:09] Launchpad bug 1368295 in dialer-app "latest UI toolkit causes visual glitch in Recent tab of dialer-app" [Critical,Confirmed] [05:09] ToyKeeper: The test logs are here - http://people.canonical.com/~bzoltan/ap-2014_09_12-21_44_44/ [05:10] ToyKeeper: By the way ... that^^ bug is a showcase that just because a problem drops out when one adds the UITK silo it is still not sure that the regression is caused by the UITK. [05:15] bzoltan1: It's also a showcase for why QA tests things regardless of what anyone says about a change being bug-free. BTW, is there an AP test now for the gap brendand discovered? [05:18] bzoltan1: I think the earliest one is brendand around 0800 UTC [06:08] ToyKeeper: I do not know. Renato should tel. [06:08] tell [06:16] ToyKeeper: May I ask you to clean up the UITK Test Plan doc page? I think it should be a clear document and not a discussion page. We can move the discussion to the mailing list for example. [07:50] asac, do you know if it was a wnated thing that there are no more mako and krillin builds at all for develo-proposed ? (only these two arches get ignored) [07:55] ogra_: err [07:55] ogra_: no [07:55] how comes? [07:55] system-image only imports the other areches [07:55] no idea why [07:55] feels like an oversight [07:55] since when? [07:55] i guess it is related to the custom tarball stuff that stephane changed [07:56] friday was the last build [07:56] yeah [07:56] so guess thats a bug [07:56] lets wait for him to get up [07:56] right [07:56] ogra_: was there anything else you guys pinged me on? lost my bip server/logs (dont even know if it was on earlier today, had to kill it) [07:57] yeah, bip behaved wried, i guess due to the hacks [07:57] i had the same here [07:57] hacks? [07:57] i didnt ping you ... [07:57] should i be bworried? [07:57] yeah, freenode was hacked [07:57] oh [07:57] nice [07:57] if you use one, change your password [07:57] ogra_: do you see backlog if i was on earlier today? [07:57] the nickserv one [07:57] or just joined at 9:47 [07:58] ok let me do that [07:58] i see you were on and off [07:58] but so was i, so my data isnt really meaningful :) === ogra_ is now known as ogra === ogra is now known as ogra_ [08:00] * ogra_ updated his as well === kgunn is now known as Guest60061 [08:00] i dont want to change my password :( [08:00] i will never remember [08:00] haha [08:01] * asac thinks about his backup strategy [08:01] write it down in Passwords.txt on your desktop and you will never forget it again :) [08:01] yes [08:01] but [08:01] :) [08:01] how is my backup strategy [08:01] :P [08:02] you ask one of the hackers if you forgot it :) [08:02] i'm sure for a small fee they will ... [08:02] * asac thinks he should backup his gpg key at least another time ... i am sure i have it somewhere on a cd that is probably bad now [08:04] just freenode hacked? or oftc too? === Guest69163 is now known as Laney [08:05] i think just frenode [08:05] maybe they dont know yet ;) [08:06] heh, could be [08:06] freenode was all over the press though [08:09] whats the best incremental backup tool for doing that to a usb disk? [08:09] nowadays [08:10] rdiff-backup i remember [08:11] dunno, i use plain tarballs pushed to a NAS [08:11] hmm. not very efficient :) [08:11] but rock solid to recover ;) [08:24] monday, so it's new device tarball day [08:24] http://people.canonical.com/~jhm/barajas/device_krillin-20140912-23825b8.tar.xz [08:24] + http://people.canonical.com/~jhm/barajas/device_krillin-20140912-23825b8.changes [08:24] ogra_, ^ [08:25] john-mcaleely, awesome ... [08:26] oh, wifi changes [08:26] hmm, i'm not sure the new initrd has even been landed in the other arches [08:26] john-mcaleely: let's get someone from QA giving it a test ride then ;) Thanks! [08:26] sil2100, thank you! [08:27] hmm, no, it hasnt yet [08:28] * ogra_ wonders why his krillin doesnt offer any RTM updates [08:28] sil2100: hello :) ... how are we doing this? do you have power to create a new card in trello to put this manual sign off into the pipeline? [08:31] GRRRRR [08:31] triple popey! [08:31] Chrome is unusable here [08:31] we're gonna get so many app uploads today [08:31] "Aw, snap" every time [08:31] use a proper browser [08:32] shut your noise [08:35] popey: disable extensions :) [08:52] asac: sadly not ☹ all extensions disabled [08:52] reallly [08:52] bzoltan, is the 'fix' that will land in dialer-app really a fix or is it just a workaround? [08:52] odd [08:52] :) [08:53] brendand: it was a bug in the app [08:53] brendand: i expect that the fix is a fix === Chipaca` is now known as Chipaca [09:01] bzoltan, i dunno - was dialer-app doing something clearly wrong according to the specification? [09:01] brendand: I do not know the details.. but something like that [09:02] bzoltan, you know there could be other apps doing the same thing [09:02] brendand: I do not know. If they do and they have tests then they will fail. I can not do code review for all apps :) [09:03] brendand: That is what I told last week. The apps do crazy stuff and as the UITK is getting better those hacks drop out... [09:06] bzoltan, it says it's caused by setting flickable property after the page is created or something like that [09:06] brendand: yes [09:08] sil2100: well, for example, this one I'm trying to publish right now (after checking that yes the change is isolated and no versions are being skipped) https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-rtm-landing-008-2-publish/21/console [09:08] sil2100: that should be also a new silo [09:08] sil2100: and that's a new silo [09:09] bzoltan, i need to talk to renato a bit about it [09:09] brendand: This is a very typical scheme ... can not even blame anybody. It is expected. The UITK is under development and the apps started to work with the 0.1 version of the UITK long time ago and they used private APIs, applied smart hackarounds to deal with the shortcomings of the UITK, etc .. as the UITK improves these hacks become bugs.... [09:09] Mirv: let me check the config! [09:09] brendand: please talk to him. And ask zsombi too if you have questions. It is a complicated issue :) [09:10] sil2100: and just to queue more to you, I've seen examples of merge & clean not working without ignore_missing_projects even though publish went fine: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-rtm-landing-006-3-merge-clean/4/console === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [09:10] uuuh [09:11] Mirv: I'm looking at this silo 008 and hm, it somehow has nothing in the backend (almost) [09:12] Mirv: ok, I have no idea what happened, but watch_only was enough to get the .project files back - maybe there is something buggy somewhere that causes it not to save those [09:13] Mirv: I'll investigate this in the meantime, but for now just watch-only in such cases and then publish should be fine === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 [09:24] sil2100: ok! [09:38] davmor2, my krillin locked up again - is that still meant to be happening? [09:38] davmor2, swipe gestures only [09:38] brendand: no it's meant to be fixed [09:38] Saviq: ^ [09:39] davmor2, it's definitely not here [09:39] davmor2, didn't Saviq go on holiday? [09:39] Yeah, we're SCREWED [09:39] * sil2100 panics without Saviq around [09:40] sil2100: man now who do we pick on [09:43] * sil2100 checks Saviq's leave e-mail [09:45] brendand, there are MPs but it is not fixed [09:46] brendand, bug 1295623 targeted for the 2014-09-25 [09:46] bug 1295623 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Sometimes input breaks and only edges are responsive" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1295623 [09:47] davmor2: let me think, greyback might be the right person to pester! [09:47] sil2100: mzanetti and kgunn for unity8 [09:48] how can I help? [09:48] It should be fixed. brendand can you get a backtrace of were unity8 in it's locked state? [09:48] =were [09:48] greyback: well, its not fixed for the dash [09:49] jibel: did the shell (i.e. launcher, indicators) lock up or the dash? [09:53] mzanetti, only the dash [09:54] jibel: ack, known, dandrader is working on that [09:57] mzanetti: sadtrombone.com [09:58] davmor2: indeed... [09:59] mzanetti: so you now know you're getting all of Saviq 's "It's your fault" right ;) Well done that man :) [09:59] yes, I know :D [10:00] davmor2: in this particular case though I'd say "I told em like 10 times that the patch doesn't fix it for the dash" [10:00] mzanetti: ouch [10:00] sil2100: ^ [10:00] so blocker still [10:01] davmor2: hmm... current devel image has th issue already [10:01] I'm not sure what the rules are, but if the rules say "no new issues" then IMO we should release the partial fix already [10:02] mzanetti: the partial fix went in on Friday but didn't fix the scope which is what was locking up anyway :( [10:03] mzanetti: this is RTM that we base decision on now not utopic's branch [10:03] ah [10:03] mzanetti: that will also mean that we are likely to go into traincon0 which will make that fix more imperative if that helps with work allocation [10:04] I'll find out what ETA we have for fixing the dash too. I hope its not long any more. Given that we have a way to repro and know what the issue is [10:04] mzanetti: cool :) [10:05] sil2100: still want me to look at promotion or shall I get on with silo testing? [10:06] grrr [10:08] davmor2: how does this look like from the users perspective? Is the input bug rarely reproducible or is it still as much of a pain? [10:10] sil2100: well when it happens it's a pain in the arse, only recourse is to reboot the phone, I've not seen it over the weekend however 3 others have so fairly annoying for users I would imagine [10:10] I see it quite often tbh [10:11] davmor2: secret hint just for you: open terminal app (the launcher should still work) and type "restart unity8-dash" [10:11] * ogra_ sees it a lot less since dash became an app [10:12] mzanetti: yeah I don't have terminal in my launcher, I need to keep it stock for testing I add stuff afterwards, that's the difference between QA and Engineer :) [10:12] Damn === tvoss is now known as tvoss|test === tvoss|test is now known as tvoss [10:14] sil2100: besides it gives mzanetti time to fix tagger so it actually launches....yes there's that nick again [10:14] davmor2: that's a bug in the camera backend [10:15] mzanetti: booo! transfers blame to bfiller's team [10:15] mzanetti: do you have a bug number for that by any chance? [10:16] hmm, no... [10:17] is the camera actually working? [10:17] * mzanetti boots that device [10:17] mzanetti: yes [10:18] strange... all my apps crash now when trying to access the camera, without me having them changed... wonder what changed [10:19] Damn #2, if we don't promote #40 then we need to go into TRAINCON-0 [10:21] Mirv: could you please upload http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/terminal-app-click/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/out/com.ubuntu.terminal_0.5.147_armhf.click when you get a moment, thanks. [10:21] sil2100: ♫ Traincon0 here we come, do-dah, do-dah. Traincon0 here we come, do-de-do-dah-day ♫ [10:21] Mirv: http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/click/job/dropping-letters-click/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/com.ubuntu.dropping-letters_0.1.2.2.63_all.click also. [10:22] Mirv: (if there's a preferable way for me to ask this, better for your workflow or whatever, just say) [10:25] davmor2: are you gonna be testin' my silo by any chance? [10:26] cwayne: no, not straight away. I need to finish image test first before we can consider silo testing :) [10:27] mzanetti: btw. do you know of any ETA for the dash input bug fix? [10:27] davmor2: oh i didnt mean right away, just in general :) i wanted to coordinate with whoever did it so i'd know when it lands so I can add stuff to the custom tarball :) [10:27] om26er: hey! [10:27] sil2100, Hi! [10:27] om26er: did you notice bug 1295623 on mako during exploratory testing? [10:27] bug 1295623 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Sometimes input breaks and only edges are responsive" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1295623 [10:28] sil2100, yes, that happens frequently [10:28] om26er: on latest rtm proposed image on mako? [10:28] cwayne: ah right so it is likely to either be me, brendand or vrriuz in Euro timezone or ToyKeeper or elopio_ in US [10:28] we didnt produce devel-proposed image for some reason over the weekend [10:28] asac, didn't test on the latest rtm image, I just flashed it on my phone. [10:29] sil2100: not yet. Daniel will be online soon and I'll find out [10:29] om26er: which one did you test before? [10:29] asac, latest utopic image that was till last night [10:30] asac: om26er tests rtm every 2 days [10:30] asac, sil2100 239, that was. [10:30] right, but utopic image wasnt produced [10:30] asac: and every other day he tests utopic [10:30] for a couple day [10:30] asac: system image had a hiccup see sil2100 he announced it in the landing meeting. [10:30] utopic-proposed is stuck on fridays image [10:30] are we sure that the image he had has the input fix? [10:30] right [10:31] * ogra_ is pretty sure the fix entered utopic eralier though [10:31] landings usually take several days to migrate over [10:31] and this one took specifically long thanks to a oxide dep [10:31] sil2100, on rtm 39 I just reproduced the bug with Michael's steps. [10:32] The input fix should be in devel-proposed earlier, as the QA sign-off to rtm took much longer due to the additional deps [10:32] hmm [10:32] right [10:33] last upload of unity8 was on wed ... [10:33] and it entered the images on thu [10:33] (and then rtm on fri.) [10:33] asac: the fix isn't complete we were just talking about this. :( mzanetti was going to ask around to figure out when the rest of the patch could land [10:34] do they have a patch? [10:34] mzanetti: ? [10:34] we want that cherry picked and fast landed at best [10:34] "fast landed" heh [10:34] asac: I'll find out when the person working on it comes online. should be any minute now [10:34] There is a merge that is prepared, but not yet ready - we would need Daniel to be online [10:35] ogra_: well, compared to land in staging branch first [10:35] and wait till that is ready [10:35] ogra_, have you seen that phablet-config writable-image now spews lots of 'error: device offline'? [10:35] well, instead we land in staging distro first :) [10:35] ogra_, i think it still works though [10:36] brendand, looks like a bug in phablet-network, i only saw it on manta on the weekend [10:36] brendand, please file something and assign to me [10:37] dev mode saw some improvements that i cant test with a mako image yet, tthanks to the image builder breakage [10:39] ogra_, do we need to do something special to run commands as root with adb shell? [10:39] adb shell "echo $password" | sudo -S " [10:40] (as i wrote in several mails :P ) [10:40] and if you are in the shell interactively just sudo indeed :) [10:41] ogra_, yes i remember you wrote that - just not in what context :) [10:41] :) [10:46] cihelp: Hi! Some kind of network(?) issues are blocking Mir CI jobs: e.g. https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/mir-mediumtests-runner-mako/2772/console . Any ideas? [10:46] hi alf_ :) [10:46] alf_: do you think https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/qtmir/frozenApps-lp1295623/+merge/234393 will fix our input issue? [10:46] asac: hi :) [10:46] brendand, btw ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/8349605/ thats on 239 mako with the latest packages manually added [10:46] or is that unlikely and we can start digging our grave? [10:47] input issue is what has repro instructions in bug 1295623 [10:47] hehe [10:47] bug 1295623 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Sometimes input breaks and only edges are responsive" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1295623 [10:48] ogra_, so another question you probably already answered in an email that i vaguely remember - what do we need to do to phablet-test-run to get that working? [10:48] nothing i thought [10:48] oh? [10:48] we use it in smoke testing, there it works [10:49] brendand: you need to juggle muppets, while chanting please work, please work, please work ;) [10:49] psivaa_, did you do anything in ci to make phablet-test-run work? [10:49] brendand, and we obviously had people use it for the last weeks ... [10:49] at home ... or how does QA verify stuff ? [10:49] alf_: if you are unfamiliar with all this then dont bother ... was just hoping for a confident voice :) [10:49] ogra_, yeah - seems unlikely we wouldn't have noticed it [10:50] ogra_, well i'm following the instructions on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing [10:50] hmm [10:50] brendand, how does it fail ? [10:50] ogra_, but i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/8349627/ [10:51] ogra_, clearly permissions related [10:51] right [10:51] sil2100, ping [10:51] tvoss: pong [10:52] brendand, aha [10:52] adb shell 'echo ubuntuci |sudo -S bash -c '\''echo phablet ALL=$ALL$ NOPASSWD: ALL > /etc/sudoers.d/phablet && chmod 600 /etc/sudoers.d/phablet'\''' [10:52] brendand, from smoke testing ... [10:53] ogra_, that should be added to that wiki then i suppose [10:53] i guess we should promot for the device pw in phablet-test-setup and integrate something like this [10:53] asac: I am not familiar with it, but in any case don't pick up the shovel just yet :) It seems the mp covers the second aspect of the input problem, but can't say for certain myself. [10:54] *prompt [10:54] asac: can't say for certain myself if it is a final/total fix [10:54] popey: dropping-letters + terminal. this is the preferred way, they go neatly to my 'hilight' window and I can pick them up at a suitable moment. [10:54] uploaded, that is. [10:54] Mirv: great, thanks. [10:55] alf_: yeah. maybe there is a third part too :) [10:55] thanks [10:55] alf_: hope cihelp helps soon [10:55] if not ping ev directly after a while [10:55] asac: ack, thanks [10:57] brendand, what device, channel and image version was bug 1369504 ? [10:57] bug 1369504 in phablet-tools (Ubuntu) "phablet-config writable-image spews lots of 'error: device offline' messages - but still seems to work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1369504 [10:57] i'm actually pretty sure the new adbd fixes this [10:58] it just didnt make it into mako/krillin thanks to the system-image breakage [10:58] ogra_, updated with 'system-image-cli -i' [10:58] on what arch and channel ? [10:59] (mako, krillin ? rtm or utopic) [10:59] Mirv: http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/music-app-click/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/out/com.ubuntu.music_1.3.625_all.click please. [11:08] alf_: looking at it whilst rebuilding the job [11:08] popey: music done [11:08] psivaa_: thanks [11:09] thank you Mirv [11:11] * ogra_ wonders what that garbage at the end of sil2100's last mail is [11:12] ogra_: what garbage? [11:12] evoolution shows me ten lines of garbage at the bottom [11:12] ogra_: and which e-mail [11:12] the one to phablet»@ [11:12] The reminder mail [11:12] yeah [11:13] hmmm, here it looks fine on my outbox [11:13] ogra_: fine here [11:13] bah [11:13] why is evo on trusty so broekn then :( [11:14] ogra_: because it is evolution? I moved to claws ugly but it just works ;) [11:14] davmor2, calws doesnt get along with 5mio mails on my imap server ... [11:15] neither does thunderbird ... they are useless if you have a big archive on the server [11:15] and evo is usually super reliable for me [11:17] yeah, in the ML archive it looks fine too [11:17] weird === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:29] dbarth_: MP approvals https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-001-2-publish/26/console [11:38] fginther, around? [11:40] * sil2100 lunch [11:50] Mirv: done [12:04] sil2100, or Mirv ^^^ line 74, pllease assign me an rtm silo [12:04] -l [12:08] sil2100: asac: hey. we have a branch which is said to fix the dash too: https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/qtmir/frozenApps-lp1295623/+merge/234393 [12:08] code looks good to me on a first glance. will to a test run in a bit and let you know [12:09] looks like we're going to get this today still [12:15] ogra_: all the rtm silos are full :) [12:16] sigh [12:16] ogra_: oh 2 just freed up like magic :) [12:20] \o/ [12:21] mzanetti: ok, let's do it like this... once you approve the branch, we'll prepare both ubuntu and ubuntu-rtm silos for it [12:22] mzanetti: we'll build it for both and please first test it for ubuntu-rtm [12:22] mzanetti: cool. thats awesomee news. dont rush, test thoroughly [12:22] alf_: fyi, still looking at the network issue [12:22] sil2100: works for me... Note that I didn't do landings in a while so bear with me if it takes me a bit to figure details during the landing process === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [12:24] :) [12:24] mzanetti: if its ready lets get it into rtm and devel at same time [12:24] let me know if you need help [12:25] ack [12:36] greyback_, ok totally frozen now including swiping [12:36] including swiping sounds new [12:37] brendand: entire shell? Ok, that's new. Can you attach gdb to unity8 and grab a backtrace? [12:37] greyback_, command to do that would be appreciated [12:37] greyback_, i could of course look it up [12:37] greyback_, but you might know off the top of your head [12:37] brendand: "sudo gdb -p `pidof unity8`" to attach [12:38] greyback_, done [12:39] brendand: at a prompt? enter "bt" === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:39] I expect we'll not get much useful until you install some debug symbols though [12:40] qtmir-android-dbgsym qtdeclarative5-qtmir-plugin-dbgsym qtbase5-dbg <- install these please to get better backtrace [12:40] greyback_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8350204/ [12:41] brendand: oh interesting, seems attribute change in mir has locked up somehow. [12:41] sil2100, ^^ can i have an rtm silo for line 74 ? [12:41] seems there are two free ones [12:42] brendand: could you install libmirserver25-dbgsym and try that again please? [12:42] greyback_, unable to locate package? [12:42] ogra_: sure! [12:42] * ogra_ hugs sil2100 [12:42] brendand: you need to add extra repo to apt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Debug_Symbol_Packages [12:43] brendand: you can skip step 2 [12:44] greyback_, libmirserver25-dbgsym : Depends: libmirserver25 (= 0.7.2+14.10.20140912-0ubuntu1) but 0.7.1+14.10.20140909.1~rtm-0ubuntu1 is to be installed [12:44] * sil2100 hugs ogra_ [12:45] brendand: what mirserver version have you installed? Maybe mirserver24? [12:45] greyback_, no it's 25 === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [12:46] greyback_, it's expecting a newer version - this is RTM i'm on remember [12:47] brendand: oh rtm [12:47] ogra_: is there a different ddebs repo for RTM images? [12:47] greyback_, no idea, ask pitti (in #ubuntu-touch i suppose) [12:48] ogra_: will do, ta [12:49] brendand: while I'm waiting, could you pastebin me the output of "t a a bt" from gdb? [12:52] sil2100: can we get rid of the ~rtm on http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?distro=ubuntu-rtm&q=sergiusens [13:02] brendand: to confirm, you had a partially hung shell (the dash was unresponsive, yes?) and you kept working with apps? [13:02] and eventually everything siezed up? [13:03] greyback_, actually i was running an autopilot test suite (uitk) [13:03] greyback_, at one point the tests kept running but the ui was frozen, but i only checked after it finished that it was totally unresponsive [13:03] sergiusens: sure! I have a flag for that ;) [13:04] brendand: was the dash frozen when you started the AP suite? [13:04] sil2100: is it accessible to me? [13:04] greyback_, no [13:04] sergiusens: why do you not want the ~rtm part btw.? [13:05] sil2100: we are going to start doing the inverted landings [13:05] greyback_, btw pitti is off sick today, at least until later on [13:05] sil2100: so my MPs come together with what is my trunk [13:05] sil2100: I really don't see the use of it really; look at how debian syncs are done; they keep the version verbatim [13:05] brendand: hmm ok. Mir folks have a theory about what happened (some app was hanged - and Mir has bug that it will eventually seize up because of that app) and there's a MR with a fix ready: https://code.launchpad.net/~afrantzis/mir/fix-1350207-unresponsive-clients/+merge/233934 [13:06] brendand: but without more info about hte hang, or being able to reproduce it ourselves, we can't really say much more [13:06] sergiusens: ah, ok, I understand now - ok, then give me a moment, the 'do not append ~rtm' flag was currently only available for sync silos [13:06] sil2100: either that or you will need to add logic to remove the ~rtm when we source copy to utopic [13:06] sil2100: ok [13:07] no problem [13:07] sil2100: I knew we were going to need to iron it out as it's a new deploy path [13:07] sergiusens: that's what I'm working on right now, but this will be a good workaround for now [13:07] Anyway, makes sense for now [13:07] brendand: I'll try running the UITK tests on an RTM image, to see if I can repro it anyway [13:10] hi traingurds: could I get a silo reconfigured? thanks! (https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-014-0-reconfigure/build?delay=0sec) [13:18] popey: hey dude can you try something please. drag down networking-indicator, toggle on flight mode, let everything settle, then toggle it off again, does the Network title move to the left and become work? [13:19] yeah, been like that for ages [13:19] other indicators do that too [13:20] popey: thanks [13:20] sergiusens: let me just run some tests on my branch and it should work for merges as well [13:23] So are we promoting images on the utopic branch anymore? [13:23] sil2100: Huston we have a problem. Flight mode is definitely causing issues with calls was working fine till is was activated, Other than that everything that was broken friday still is :) [13:24] tedg, we might perhaps promote one along with rtm [13:24] after a quick "does it boot" test [13:24] Okay, I want to land the UAL cgroups stuff, but I thought I'd do it after a promotion. But not sure if it makes sense to wait in utopic? Just wait on the sync to rtm? [13:25] tedg, i turned utppoic into my testbed for everything nowadays :) [13:25] *utopic too indeed [13:25] it is really helpful to have an image that contains your stuff and flash that afresh [13:25] Ha, "ogra_ made me do it!" ;-) [13:26] and you can roll back at any time if you see an issue [13:26] Yeah, will be nice when we get silo images in CI Airline. [13:26] ++ [13:26] i'm so eagerly waiting for that [13:27] ogra_, BTW, did you see this? https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/ubuntu-seeds/indicator-display.touch.utopic/+merge/234337 [13:28] tedg, ah, no, i havent done my weekly "seed merge check" day yet :) [13:28] ogra_, Ah, okay. Wanted to make sure it's on the list. [13:29] davmor2: good news then! [13:29] tedg, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.utopic/+activereviews [13:29] it is ;) [13:29] davmor2: flight mode was in overall a bit brokenish === boiko_ is now known as boiko [13:30] sil2100: well quite a lot brokenish and I think it stays brokenish [13:30]