[01:06] <shayr> Hi. I am having a problem with postfix sasl authentication. I have domne everything accotding to docs, but when I try telnet I don't have 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN and 250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN
[01:12] <pmatulis> shayr: try #postfix
[01:14] <shayr> I will, thanks a lot :)
[01:37] <a1fa> well, this is just shitty
[01:37] <a1fa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/1301015
[01:37] <a1fa> WTF
[01:47] <pmatulis> a1fa: what's wrong?  use ifdown & ifup
[01:50] <a1fa> pmatulis: i had to modify my scripts
[01:50] <pmatulis> a1fa: ok good
[01:50] <a1fa> now, sshd is also disabling forwarding by default in 14.04
[01:51] <pmatulis> a1fa: a sensible default
[01:53] <a1fa> the man says default is set to yes
[01:54] <a1fa> service ssh reload?
[01:54] <pmatulis> restart
[01:55] <a1fa> its not taking it
[01:55] <a1fa> forwarding is still disabled
[01:55] <a1fa> fun
[01:56] <pmatulis> possibly a misconfiguration or you're not testing properly?
[01:56] <a1fa> ~$ sudo grep -i tcpforwarding /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[01:56] <a1fa> AllowTcpForwarding yes
[01:59] <a1fa> not even working after reboot
[02:00] <a1fa> blah
[02:00] <a1fa> its working, wtf
[02:02] <a1fa> i cant forward via tunnel
[02:02] <a1fa> (tun0)
[02:06] <a1fa> anodther change in 14.04
[02:21] <Patrickdk> what does allowtcpforwarding have to do with tun?
[02:42] <T3CHKOMMIE> Hey guys, anyone ever trouble shot SMTP auth on an ubunbu mail server?
[02:42] <T3CHKOMMIE> i have followed about 18 different guides, reimaged about 6 times and still cant get my imap clients to connect to the outgoung server.
[02:43] <T3CHKOMMIE> maybe some debugs i can enable? mail.log and mail.err dont show my anything interesting and my imap client just keeps saying that the server isnt responding. :(
[02:48]  * Patrickdk wonders what imap has to do with smtp
[02:48] <Patrickdk> and why you would bother to follow any tutorials
[02:48] <Patrickdk> it is guarrenteed a tutorial *won't* fix your problem
[08:10] <lordievader> Good moorning.
[08:16] <shayr> Good morning
[08:18] <lordievader> Hey shayr, how are you?
[08:18] <shayr> Good thanks, you?
[08:19] <shayr> Configuring postfix atm
[08:20] <lordievader> Doing good here ;)
[08:23] <shayr> :)
[08:58] <Aison> I would like to use ufw on my linux router
[08:59] <Aison> now I looked into ufw/sysctl.conf
[08:59] <Aison> for what are these options good for? net/ipv4/conf/default/accept_source_route
[09:00] <Aison> these four rules are titled by # Do not accept IP source route packets (we are not a router)
[09:00] <Aison> do I have to set them to 1?
[09:19] <rbasak> jamespage: do you know about bug 1353423? Not sure what our tomcat plans are for Utopic.
[09:19] <jamespage> rbasak, hmm - I was ignoring tomcat8 for utopic
[09:19] <jamespage> rbasak, I swear I fixed that once
[09:19] <jamespage> rbasak, oh - I did
[09:19] <rbasak> jamespage: I don't actually see it in component mismatches
[09:20] <jamespage> we're carrying a delta - I just did not close the bug
[09:20] <rbasak> jamespage: there's also bug 1349889 which is in component mismatches still. One for zul though maybe? Looks like Openstack pulls in python-redis.
[09:21] <jamespage> rbasak, looking
[09:21] <rbasak> (though it's not clear to me)
[09:23] <jamespage> rbasak, we can drop the depends for now -   * Add python-hiredis to Recommends due to performance improvements when used
[09:23] <jamespage> but we might want to review next cycle
[09:23] <jamespage> rbasak, let me deal with that now
[09:23] <rbasak> Thanks
[09:23] <jamespage> rbasak, bumping down to suggests for now
[09:24] <rbasak> I also see a new heat->python-saharaclient one. Probably for zul or coreycb?
[09:26] <jamespage> rbasak, yes
[09:26] <jamespage> rbasak, I think I'm going to suggest a sprint for the last bits of openstack
[09:26] <jamespage> virtual
[09:26] <jamespage> horizon is in a bad place right now
[09:38] <therve> hallyn, Hi, around? I have a question about qemu packaging
[09:42] <jamespage> therve, he won't be around for a bit - I might be able to help
[09:42] <therve> I got my timezones mixed
[09:42] <therve> jamespage, A new machine type has been created for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu/+bug/1294823
[09:43] <therve> In the 2.0 package it points to the latest machine type which is something like pc2.0
[09:43] <jamespage> therve, yes - this rings a bell
[09:43] <therve> I was wondering the patch should be updated for qemu 2.1 to still point to that
[09:43] <therve> Instead, the utopic package it's pc-2.1
[09:44] <jamespage> therve, possibly - I remember it was todo with supporting migrations between Ubuntu series (i.e. trusty->utopic)
[09:44] <therve> jamespage, Right, I think it's the intent
[09:44] <jamespage> therve, so we may need to add a new utopic one in  - but'd I'd defer to hallyn on that - there was some complication around this
[09:44] <therve> But it seems it should be changed if we want that behavior
[09:45] <therve> jamespage, I wouldn't be surprised :)
[09:45] <therve> Do you want me to open a bug to track it?
[09:45] <jamespage> hallyn, zul: ^^ if you could respond that would be great - therve - sounds like a good idea - yes please!
[09:45] <therve> jamespage, Great, thanks!
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[10:48] <pmatulis> morning
[13:49] <hallyn> therve: i thought i'd changed that, actually.  you're right, it should point to the latest one.
[13:50] <therve> hallyn, It does point to the latest one?
[13:50] <therve> I opened bug #1369481 BTW
[13:50] <hallyn> oh right :)  yes, it shoul dpoin tto 2.0
[13:50] <hallyn> and utopic point to 2.1
[13:50] <therve> Ah right, add a new machine type
[13:50] <therve> Makes sense to me!
[13:51] <hallyn> thanks for opening the bug, if you wanted to write a patch to fix it please do, else i'll do it later today
[13:52] <hallyn> jdstrand: hey, so a qemu bug thread made me wonder - any chance you have ext4 extents not enabled in your filesystem?  there's a (raw image, unfortunately, iiuc) bug in there...
[13:52]  * hallyn biab
[14:10] <jdstrand> hallyn: $ mount|grep home
[14:10] <jdstrand> /dev/sda3 on /home type ext3 (rw)
[14:11] <jdstrand> (I have my images in /home, not /var/lib/libvirt)
[14:12] <jdstrand> hallyn: mdeslaur hypothesized that the qemu monitor is saying it is done when it actually isn't such that libvirt might proceed to the next operation prematurely
[14:14] <jdstrand> we discussed a bit amongst the team and sarnold_ and I use a similar process that might trigger it whereas others on the team do not. If his hypothesis is correct, load on the host system may be a factor
[14:14] <jdstrand> we've added a strategic sleep() call in uvt to see if we can avoid the problem
[14:16] <hallyn> ext3!
[14:16] <hallyn> i've never tried that
[14:17] <hallyn> jdstrand: interesting
[14:17] <jdstrand> if I were to guess, I would guess sarnold_ is using ext3 for home based on past conversations, but I am not sure
[14:17] <jdstrand> my system is pretty old
[14:18] <jdstrand> I think when I got it and setup the drive, I had just finished getting bitten by some annoying ext4 data loss bugs (or, at the very least, the memory was still fresh)
[14:24] <hallyn> was that by any chance 2010?
[14:24] <hallyn> that sent me to xfs for a few years
[14:24] <jdstrand> plausible. I forget when we switched to ext4 by default
[14:25] <jdstrand> I use ext4 these days, but this system still has ext3
[14:44] <hallyn> jdstrand: so yes, if it is ext3 then it doesn't use ext4 extents.
[14:45] <hallyn> something to keep in mind if your sleep experiment doesn't pan out
[15:53] <jamespage>  bug 1361357
[16:51] <sarnold_> hallyn,jdstrand: indeed, I still use ext3
[20:54] <tarvid> any recommendations on a simple url monitor
[20:55] <ikonia> hobbit ?
[20:55] <Pici> what does a url monitor do?
[20:55] <tarvid> makes sure a website responds
[20:59] <tarvid> xymon looks good
[20:59] <tarvid> (formerly hobbit)
[20:59] <ikonia> oh hobbits changed names
[20:59] <ikonia> thats interesting
[20:59] <RoyK> tarvid: xymon isn't that good - use icinga/nagios instead
[20:59] <tarvid> the last time I used it it was called big brother
[21:00] <tarvid> RoyK, icinga is in a PPA, I have had disastrous results with PPAs on servers
[21:00] <RoyK> tarvid: we use it at work, I don't like it
[21:00] <tarvid> Nagios seems heavy
[21:00] <tarvid> What's wrong with xymon?
[21:00] <RoyK> tarvid: icinga is in the normal repos
[21:00] <ikonia> sees a bit overkill
[21:01] <ikonia> you could just use a script with wget/curl
[21:01] <tarvid> that would be tempting
[21:01] <tarvid> I would like to know if a site changed more than a threshhold
[21:01] <RoyK> tarvid: it's years since icinga were in just ppas
[21:02] <tarvid> My bad, I read their wiki