| rick_h_ | oh boy, grant me the willpower to not be a rude $@!$# to someone | 02:24 |
|---|---|---|
| cmaloney | rick_h_: If he doesn't grant you the willpower can he grant us the chat logs? | 02:25 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: ok, I need a conscious, I'm tired and cranky http://paste.ubuntu.com/8347329/ | 02:32 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/lpx0PO - Ubuntu Pastebin | 02:32 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: tell me what part I should not be sending | 02:32 |
| cmaloney | The second sentence on lines 26-27 | 02:33 |
| rick_h_ | but but ... ok | 02:33 |
| rick_h_ | gone | 02:34 |
| * rick_h_ grumbles about it | 02:34 | |
| cmaloney | I'd reword 34: Thank you for continuing to use Bookie. I'd ask you to please continue to use the service as I've poured a lot of time and energy (for free) into a tool that I hope others will find useful. | 02:35 |
| rick_h_ | but it's less passive agressive that way | 02:35 |
| cmaloney | 13: Twitter | 02:35 |
| rick_h_ | yea, fixed that one thanks | 02:35 |
| cmaloney | Direct is best. :) | 02:36 |
| cmaloney | It's a little less bitchy that way. | 02:36 |
| rick_h_ | but but that's the fun part | 02:36 |
| cmaloney | But also gives him an exit clause if he'd like to piss off | 02:36 |
| rick_h_ | ok, updated, but also adding a link to http://alternativeto.net/software/bookie-bookmarks/ | 02:37 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/6xhEEF - Bookie Alternatives and Similar Software - AlternativeTo.net | 02:37 |
| cmaloney | That's appropriate. | 02:37 |
| rick_h_ | anything else before I hit send? | 02:37 |
| cmaloney | Not sure the "I don't know who 'we' is" is addressing. You may want to word it "Bookie is currently myself and whatever volunteers contribute to the project". | 02:39 |
| rick_h_ | he says "I would like to know why nobody notified us' | 02:40 |
| rick_h_ | I'll s/we/us | 02:40 |
| cmaloney | And you're answering it as such. | 02:40 |
| rick_h_ | screw it, hit send | 02:41 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, I can understand why that pissed you off. | 02:42 |
| cmaloney | heh | 02:42 |
| rick_h_ | I just spent nearly $1k this past week on new server stuff...yea call me bitchy | 02:42 |
| cmaloney | yeah, that's completely understandable | 02:43 |
| rick_h_ | ty sir, I appreciate the filter | 02:43 |
| cmaloney | Not sure how you could make it any more plain what was going on. | 02:43 |
| cmaloney | np. Glad I could help out. :) | 02:43 |
| rick_h_ | on the plus side, fulltext index is fully caught up and search should be kick ass now. | 02:45 |
| _stink_ | i thought it was perfect as pasted :) | 02:45 |
| rick_h_ | _stink_: ty :) | 02:45 |
| rick_h_ | I couldn't find the button for 'reach through the internet and throttle' | 02:45 |
| widox | rick_h_: hah. I just ran into that broken extension situation | 02:45 |
| rick_h_ | widox: sorry, I didn't test it but assumed the url redirects would 'just work' | 02:46 |
| rick_h_ | and if it doesn't work, figured the big url redirect and such would jump out, or twitter, or irc. | 02:46 |
| widox | well, it breaks because of the SSL cert | 02:46 |
| rick_h_ | I should have hit up the mailing list I guess | 02:46 |
| cmaloney | _stink_: But then I couldn't use my superpower of peacemaking | 02:46 |
| rick_h_ | widox: it shoudl only do that if you type in http://bmark.us | 02:46 |
| rick_h_ | and I should fix that by having the http go back to https://bmark.us and then forward to https://bookie.io | 02:46 |
| widox | dunno. that's what the debug console said | 02:47 |
| rick_h_ | oh well sucky | 02:47 |
| * rick_h_ launches FF | 02:47 | |
| widox | I assume Chrome does the same...? | 02:47 |
| rick_h_ | I think I changed it, I've not updated firefox to checking it out | 02:47 |
| rick_h_ | well the damn thing jumps out with a yellow warning at least | 02:48 |
| rick_h_ | it's not like it's hidden | 02:48 |
| * rick_h_ can't recall how to debug an installed extension crummy | 02:48 | |
| _stink_ | cmaloney: i am very glad you have that skill | 02:48 |
| widox | rick_h_: yep | 02:48 |
| rick_h_ | anyway, it's not the fact that he filed a 'bug report' that made me cranky | 02:48 |
| _stink_ | i'll call you when i'm about to launch the nukes | 02:48 |
| rick_h_ | it's the lack of a bug report and more of a the 'angry entitled freeloader personal email' | 02:48 |
| rick_h_ | expecially when everythign else is so kick ass. The new hardware and such is making bookie fly | 02:49 |
| rick_h_ | (well the fixed queries helped too) | 02:49 |
| widox | sure, understandable | 02:50 |
| rick_h_ | anyway, all good. It happens in OSS world. I've moved on | 02:51 |
| rick_h_ | wheeeee | 02:51 |
| * rick_h_ goes off to bed night all | 03:20 | |
| cmaloney | Laterness. :) | 03:20 |
| cmaloney | OK, this confirms it | 03:27 |
| cmaloney | I've said that the addresses in India look like driving directions | 03:27 |
| cmaloney | I shit thee not: part of the address for one of the students is "Mile Davis' "Tutu" is a testament on how certain electronic instruments haven't aged well. | 03:27 |
| cmaloney | fuck, bad c/p | 03:27 |
| cmaloney | I shit thee not: part of the address for one of the students is "Opp. Pizza-Hut" | 03:28 |
| _stink_ | haha | 03:28 |
| cmaloney | I'm fully expecting most, if not all of these to come back as undeliverable. | 03:29 |
| wolfger | morning | 10:51 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 11:22 |
| brousch_ | cmaloney: One of the Kivy mentors is in India. I can ask him stuff if you need me to | 11:49 |
| wolfger | How was everybody's weekend, other than "too short"? (that's my answer...) | 11:55 |
| rick_h_ | yea, camping weekend so party | 12:00 |
| brousch_ | heh, my RSS feed is full of old bookie results | 12:01 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I think the server/feed change caused it to blow up once | 12:02 |
| rick_h_ | brousch_: it seems fine after that initial blow up though hopefully | 12:02 |
| brousch_ | Ug, tired | 12:03 |
| wolfger | I'm jealous. This is excellent camping weather | 12:03 |
| brousch_ | Was up until 1AM working on controlling an Arduino with Python | 12:03 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 12:04 |
| rick_h_ | you need to spend more time at home away from the hackerspace | 12:04 |
| rick_h_ | it's affecting your sleep hah | 12:04 |
| brousch_ | It was at home! | 12:04 |
| wolfger | Something wrong with controlling Arduino natively? :-P | 12:04 |
| brousch_ | wolfger: There are advantages even aside from the superior language | 12:04 |
| wolfger | I spent Saturday afternoon/evening going to a Tigers game with work folks. Sunday I slept a bit and hit the driving range, then wasted the rest of my day watching the godawful Lions | 12:05 |
| brousch_ | Your controller is a real computer (or RPi) and has all of the Python ecosystem, Internet, etc available without shields | 12:05 |
| brousch_ | All of Linux (or even Windows) becomes available | 12:07 |
| wolfger | Hmm. Learned something new today: http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/198481/why-cant-an-xml-comment-contain-two-hyphens | 12:08 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/YVQvdm - sgml - Why can't an xml comment contain two hyphens - Programmers Stack Exchange | 12:08 |
| wolfger | brousch_: so you're using Arduino basically as a real-world I/O interface to your lap/desktop? | 12:09 |
| brousch_ | Right | 12:09 |
| brousch_ | or Rpi | 12:09 |
| brousch_ | Lets you make interfaces with lights and physical buttons | 12:09 |
| wolfger | Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute? (that's what Google gives me) | 12:10 |
| wolfger | what's an Rpi? | 12:10 |
| brousch_ | Raspberry Pi | 12:10 |
| wolfger | ah | 12:10 |
| wolfger | I guess I'm not that familiar with Raspberry Pi. I would not have thought hooking it to an Arduino would be beneficial at all. I thought it was more of an Arduino replacement. | 12:11 |
| brousch_ | Do you live in a cave? | 12:12 |
| wolfger | more or less | 12:12 |
| brousch_ | It's a full Linux (Debian based) computer running on ARM | 12:13 |
| wolfger | Around about the time I bought an Arduino, everybody quit talking about Arduino and started talking about RPi. I just made an assumption and ignored it because I wasn't about to switch away from the toy I just bought. | 12:13 |
| brousch_ | They have different focuses | 12:13 |
| wolfger | So it was just a conversational replacement and not a technical replacement... :-D | 12:14 |
| brousch_ | Well an RPi can do a lot of what Arduino does, but with more power usage and less flexibility | 12:15 |
| brousch_ | Arduinos now can be the size of your thumbnail | 12:15 |
| brousch_ | https://www.pjrc.com/teensy/teensy31.html | 12:16 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/tdge4R - Teensy 3.1: New Features | 12:16 |
| cmaloney | brousch_: iirc there's a Python native thingie for Arduino. Name is escaping me at the moment | 12:21 |
| brousch_ | Yes. That's what I am using | 12:21 |
| brousch_ | pyfirmata is the low level module, and BreakfastSerial is a higher level module | 12:22 |
| brousch_ | pyfirmata's documentation is pretty much nonexistent | 12:22 |
| cmaloney | There was something else that I saw. | 12:22 |
| cmaloney | Gah, all I'm thinking of is numpy but that's completely off-base. | 12:23 |
| cmaloney | nanpy? | 12:23 |
| wolfger | http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-12/06/micro-python | 12:24 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/PpDWCO - Micro Python: more powerful than Arduino, simpler than the Raspberry Pi (Wired UK) | 12:24 |
| brousch_ | wolfger: Yeah, but it's an incomplete Python and a special board | 12:25 |
| jrwren_ | what bus? | 12:25 |
| cmaloney | Hm, I never realized nanpy needed special firmware. Never mind. | 12:26 |
| brousch_ | That seems odd. Maybe they mean a sketch | 12:26 |
| cmaloney | Nah, there's something they're doing with it perhaps to make it more friendly with Python? | 12:27 |
| cmaloney | Not sure, but I'm not terribly interested in reflashing an Arduino. :) | 12:27 |
| brousch_ | Yeah, it's just an Arduino sketch | 12:27 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: _stink_ widox got a nice contrite apology email today so good stuff | 12:30 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: Awesome. :) | 12:37 |
| _stink_ | rick_h_: phew, faith restored. | 12:53 |
| brousch_ | hm, getting all sorts of weird retweets on my meeting announcement | 13:08 |
| brousch_ | My klout will soar! | 13:08 |
| wolfger | woot | 13:10 |
| widox | rick_h_: good deal | 13:11 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h_: return_fragment=False is what i ended up needing | 13:21 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: cool | 13:22 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: ok I wasn't sure if you were using it from the cli or what | 13:23 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: what are you using breadability for? | 13:23 |
| mrgoodcat | lol another bookiebot feature | 13:24 |
| mrgoodcat | go figure right? | 13:24 |
| rick_h_ | ah, gotcha | 13:24 |
| mrgoodcat | actually it's not bookiebot for now | 13:24 |
| mrgoodcat | but i'm sure it will end up being | 13:24 |
| mrgoodcat | someone asked me to add a feature to the bot i maintain for the wmu computer club | 13:25 |
| rick_h_ | what's the feature? | 13:25 |
| * rick_h_ wonders if r.bmark.us and it's api would do it for you | 13:25 | |
| mrgoodcat | probably would | 13:26 |
| mrgoodcat | hang on real quick | 13:26 |
| mrgoodcat | .reload | 13:26 |
| bookiebot | reloaded 29 plugins in 0.011099 seconds | 13:26 |
| mrgoodcat | .read https://mojang.com/2014/09/yes-were-being-bought-by-microsoft/ | 13:26 |
| bookiebot | http://read.dyladan.me/qHh | 13:26 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/5PSLcF - Yes, we’re being bought by Microsoft | 13:26 |
| mrgoodcat | that's the feature in a nutshell | 13:27 |
| rick_h_ | yea, so you can use the api on r.bmark.us to create a readable version and a shortlink off of it | 13:27 |
| cmaloney | Morning again | 13:27 |
| mrgoodcat | its a little different than that because they want it integrated into the club website and admin-only access and whatnot | 13:27 |
| rick_h_ | http://r.bmark.us/u/fdbf7b1ef07f2e | 13:27 |
| rick_h_ | gotcha, ok. well fyi that's out there. It's a small python app you can run on heroku on the free tier | 13:28 |
| rick_h_ | (where r.bmark.us runs) | 13:28 |
| mrgoodcat | woah... something is funky with the rendering | 13:28 |
| rick_h_ | and you can just post the url https://github.com/bookieio/bookie_parser | 13:28 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/ZirndA - bookieio/bookie_parser · GitHub | 13:28 |
| mrgoodcat | oh awesome | 13:28 |
| mrgoodcat | i might do it that way | 13:28 |
| mrgoodcat | is the rendering odd for you on that page? | 13:29 |
| rick_h_ | https://github.com/bookieio/bookie_parser/blob/master/bookie_parser/__init__.py#L24 | 13:29 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/sYjBuu - bookie_parser/__init__.py at master · bookieio/bookie_parser · GitHub | 13:29 |
| mrgoodcat | odd/slow | 13:29 |
| rick_h_ | no, working here | 13:29 |
| mrgoodcat | must be my font renderer or something | 13:30 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm using arch | 13:30 |
| mrgoodcat | which means i have to set all that shit up | 13:30 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 13:30 |
| mrgoodcat | is there r.bmark.us api docs? | 13:33 |
| mrgoodcat | or do i just post the url to r.bmark.us | 13:33 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: I linked it in that __init_- | 13:34 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: not great docs no, it's small/tiny | 13:34 |
| mrgoodcat | ok | 13:34 |
| rick_h_ | two endpoints really | 13:34 |
| mrgoodcat | yea i'm looking at the init now | 13:34 |
| rick_h_ | POST to it or GET the hash | 13:34 |
| rick_h_ | line 24 | 13:34 |
| mrgoodcat | POST to /api/v1/parse with a json body {url:"http://awesomesite.com"} and thats it? | 13:39 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/ml73yK - awesomesite.com | 13:39 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: think so | 13:44 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: been a bit since I tinkered with it | 13:44 |
| mrgoodcat | just so you know the json response returns the readable content twice | 13:55 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: yea, one is some raw data or something | 13:55 |
| rick_h_ | there was a reason for it | 13:55 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: maybe one is the original content? | 13:56 |
| mrgoodcat | nope, exactly the same http://hastebin.com/igigawoviw.json | 13:56 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/OO9ZLR - hastebin | 13:56 |
| mrgoodcat | readable and data[readable] | 13:56 |
| rick_h_ | yea, don't recall why it did that I guess | 13:56 |
| mrgoodcat | lol | 13:56 |
| mrgoodcat | ok | 13:56 |
| rick_h_ | maybe some api version history or something | 13:57 |
| mrgoodcat | just wanted to make sure you're aware | 13:57 |
| rick_h_ | yea, the r.bmark.us needs some love | 13:57 |
| rick_h_ | I had the goal of turning it into a full microservice and having bookie run all the links through it vs doing it on its own | 13:57 |
| rick_h_ | I use it once in a while via the bookmarklet so that I can clean up hard to read articles | 13:58 |
| mrgoodcat | thats why we were using breadability more or less | 13:59 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 13:59 |
| rick_h_ | your use seemed to match up mine there | 13:59 |
| rick_h_ | which is why I brought it up | 13:59 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h_: when did bmark.us become bookie.io? | 14:13 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: last week | 14:14 |
| mrgoodcat | like 4 days ago? | 14:14 |
| cmaloney | Yeah | 14:15 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: something like that yes | 14:16 |
| cmaloney | greg-g: Picked up more Kyuss this weekend as well | 14:17 |
| cmaloney | Blues for the Red Sun and Welcome to Sky Valley | 14:17 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm trying to POST to bookie.io and getting SSL errors | 14:21 |
| cmaloney | Using Curl? | 14:23 |
| mrgoodcat | no | 14:23 |
| mrgoodcat | python requests | 14:23 |
| mrgoodcat | i turned off ssl verification and it started working | 14:24 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: make sure it's https | 14:24 |
| mrgoodcat | it's all public anyways so i don't really care if I get MITM'd | 14:24 |
| mrgoodcat | it is | 14:24 |
| cmaloney | I had to turn off cert checking for my backup script using curl | 14:24 |
| mrgoodcat | api = "https://bookie.io/api/v1/bookiebot/bmark?api_key=%s" % apikey | 14:24 |
| cmaloney | (which I should have mentioned prior) | 14:24 |
| rick_h_ | hmm, sucky | 14:25 |
| rick_h_ | chrome says the cert is all good | 14:25 |
| mrgoodcat | cmaloney: your backup script hits bookie? | 14:25 |
| rick_h_ | maybe something is up, will try to look | 14:25 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, it backs up the bookmarks on a nightly basis | 14:26 |
| mrgoodcat | oh got it | 14:26 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: is that the json api or the htm one? | 14:27 |
| cmaloney | https://bookie.io/craig/export | 14:28 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: ok cool | 14:29 |
| rick_h_ | the api one (json) will get big soon now that we can join with readable content I'm going to enable dumping of the content with that api call | 14:29 |
| cmaloney | Does this export private bookmarks as well? I'm not authenticating to it. | 14:31 |
| rick_h_ | it won't if you don't authenticate | 14:31 |
| rick_h_ | the api will | 14:31 |
| rick_h_ | and I think the export url you mention *should* if you add api auth to the url | 14:31 |
| cmaloney | Um, it will. :) | 14:32 |
| cmaloney | I'm not authenticating | 14:32 |
| rick_h_ | bah | 14:33 |
| * rick_h_ knew we tested this as I made a stink about it | 14:33 | |
| rick_h_ | ok | 14:33 |
| cmaloney | .np squeekyhoho | 14:39 |
| bookiebot | squeekyhoho's current track - Apothecaries' Weight by Kyuss on Mercurious Pools | 14:39 |
| cmaloney | I really hate last.fm's album matching | 14:40 |
| mrgoodcat | why? is that wrong? | 14:45 |
| cmaloney | .np squeekyhoho | 14:48 |
| bookiebot | squeekyhoho's current track - Freedom Run by Kyuss on Mercurious Pools | 14:48 |
| cmaloney | The album is Blues for the Red Sun | 14:49 |
| cmaloney | Which I don't think you can do anything about at the bot level | 14:49 |
| mrgoodcat | nope | 14:50 |
| mrgoodcat | its all returned by the api | 14:50 |
| cmaloney | Yeah | 14:50 |
| cmaloney | Hence my initial complaint at last.fm. ;) | 14:51 |
| mrgoodcat | .read http://finance.yahoo.com/news/comcast-threatening-cut-off-customers-092817979.html | 14:52 |
| bookiebot | http://r.bmark.us/u/6795709eee7511 | 14:52 |
| mrgoodcat | now it uses bookie | 14:52 |
| cmaloney | Nice. | 14:52 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h_: is r.bmark.us going to be r.bookie.io too? | 14:52 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: yes, eventually | 14:53 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: and then it'll be super fast and not on heroku's free tier | 14:53 |
| cmaloney | nice. :) | 14:53 |
| rick_h_ | but only so much time for oss hobbies :/ | 14:53 |
| rick_h_ | and I'll have more then 8mb of redis memory for caching old parsed urls | 14:53 |
| mrgoodcat | if nothing else, it at least gives me some nice readable default css :) | 14:53 |
| rick_h_ | :) | 14:54 |
| cmaloney | it should be noted that Mercurious Pools is apparently a bootleg recording. | 14:54 |
| mrgoodcat | ok so r.bmark.us is definitely rendering funny for me | 14:54 |
| mrgoodcat | nobody else is seeing this? | 14:54 |
| mrgoodcat | scroll quickly on the article | 14:54 |
| mrgoodcat | the render is super slow | 14:54 |
| cmaloney | I'm seeing that as well | 14:54 |
| cmaloney | Chrome, right? | 14:54 |
| mrgoodcat | yerp | 14:54 |
| rick_h_ | hmm, I've got some fancy background image on there repeating | 14:55 |
| rick_h_ | maybe some computers don't like it | 14:55 |
| cmaloney | Almost like it's rendering an image | 14:55 |
| _stink_ | hmm, i'm not seenig anything funny | 14:55 |
| cmaloney | Firefox? | 14:55 |
| _stink_ | chromium on 14.04 | 14:56 |
| mrgoodcat | woah. that tab has a huge memory load too | 14:56 |
| mrgoodcat | well the memory usage went down, not sure what happened there, but that tab is taking huge CPU to scroll | 14:58 |
| mrgoodcat | by huge i mean ~40% of one core | 14:58 |
| wolfger | I don't know. I'm not seeing anything described. No fancy background, no slow rendering. | 15:03 |
| mrgoodcat | i don't see a fancy background | 15:10 |
| mrgoodcat | just slow render | 15:10 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm on a slow-ish computer though | 15:10 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: sweet :) which? | 15:11 |
| mrgoodcat | no issues in firefox | 15:12 |
| mrgoodcat | wolfger: what browser/version? | 15:12 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm using chrome Version 37.0.2062.120 (64-bit) | 15:13 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: oh, you said, cool! | 15:13 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: welcome to sky valley was my first Kyuss album | 15:14 |
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| cmaloney | greg-g: yeah, picked up all of the major Kyuss releases at UHF | 15:44 |
| wolfger | mrgoodcat: Google Chrome Version 37.0.2062.103 m | 15:50 |
| mrgoodcat | mobile? | 15:50 |
| wolfger | laptop | 15:50 |
| mrgoodcat | wondering what the m at the end is | 15:51 |
| wolfger | I'm pretty sure I didn't select a specifically mobile version of Chrome, but I guess I don't recall. | 15:51 |
| wolfger | also running ABP extension, as well as a few others | 15:52 |
| wolfger | just updated to 120 m | 15:53 |
| mrgoodcat | its a css issue | 15:53 |
| mrgoodcat | disabling javascript didn't help | 15:53 |
| mrgoodcat | disabling css did | 15:54 |
| cmaloney | .np squeekyhoho | 17:47 |
| bookiebot | squeekyhoho's current track - The Melody (On The Deuce By 44) by Herbie Hancock on Dis Is Da Drum | 17:47 |
| cmaloney | <- word | 17:47 |
| brousch_ | Any Arrested Development fans? https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15833937-the-man-inside-me | 19:50 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/3GdkKs - The Man Inside Me by Tobias Fünke — Reviews, Discussion, Bookclubs, Lists | 19:50 |
| cmaloney | I've watched and been amused by the show | 19:53 |
| rick_h_ | I watched and was not amused | 19:53 |
| rick_h_ | but my wife loved the thing | 19:53 |
| cmaloney | It's kind of like British Comedy. | 19:53 |
| brousch_ | I did not watch it on TV, but have watched the whole series 2x on Netflix | 19:53 |
| cmaloney | they'll pull references from previous shows | 19:53 |
| cmaloney | and won't explain things if you don't get it | 19:54 |
| brousch_ | It makes perfect sense if you don't miss any episodes! | 19:54 |
| cmaloney | Totally | 19:54 |
| cmaloney | Which is why it failed in the US | 19:54 |
| cmaloney | on air | 19:54 |
| cmaloney | because Fox can't seem to not fuck with a show. | 19:54 |
| cmaloney | Unless it's The Simpsons | 19:55 |
| cmaloney | note: working off of 10 year old information here. | 19:55 |
| brousch_ | cmaloney: Had a good Go battle with a random. 19x19 is interesting. On 9x9 you get 1 maybe 2 good fights and the game is over, but on 19x19 there are many more | 19:58 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, I have yet to play a full 19x19 game | 19:58 |
| cmaloney | 9x9 is pretty cramped. good for learning but a completely different game | 19:59 |
| cmaloney | 13x13 is interesting | 19:59 |
| cmaloney | Also: your capturing game is starting to piss me off. :) | 20:00 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h_: when hacking on bookie_parser, should i change styles.css or styles.scss? | 20:01 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: the scss, it's sass and compiles to the css | 20:01 |
| mrgoodcat | cool | 20:01 |
| mrgoodcat | ok | 20:01 |
| brousch_ | cmaloney: hah! | 20:02 |
| brousch_ | Fighting the randoms is helping | 20:02 |
| cmaloney | I can see that | 20:02 |
| cmaloney | I think you're going to win on prisoners alone | 20:03 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h_: line 63 of styles.scss is the line causing the rendering issues | 20:03 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: k | 20:03 |
| mrgoodcat | oddly it doesn't seem to do anything | 20:04 |
| mrgoodcat | on chrome anyways | 20:04 |
| mrgoodcat | i can't see any difference | 20:04 |
| mrgoodcat | the makefile takes a while on this project... | 20:15 |
| mrgoodcat | can't get the makefile to work on my machine for some reason (possibly because archlinux) so i can't test, but i'm 100% sure that line is the issue | 20:18 |
| mrgoodcat | seems to be working on ubuntu vps | 20:26 |
| mrgoodcat | slowly | 20:26 |
| mrgoodcat | gah failed | 20:29 |
| cmaloney | .np squeekyhoho | 20:31 |
| bookiebot | squeekyhoho's current track - Adventure by Disasterpeace on Fez | 20:31 |
| mrgoodcat | cmaloney brousch_ i played a 13x13 game with a random. got my ass kicked | 20:33 |
| mrgoodcat | :/ | 20:33 |
| mrgoodcat | every time i thought maybe i was salvaging the game... NOPE CRUSHED | 20:33 |
| brousch_ | I have not beaten a random yet | 20:34 |
| brousch_ | mrgoodcat: Are you on DGS? | 20:34 |
| mrgoodcat | not even sure what that is | 20:34 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm playing on my android | 20:34 |
| mrgoodcat | called goonline or something like that | 20:34 |
| brousch_ | http://www.dragongoserver.net/ | 20:36 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/M2HG - DGS - Dragon Go Server | 20:36 |
| brousch_ | Lets you play in the browser or via an Android app | 20:36 |
| mrgoodcat | hmm cool | 20:36 |
| mrgoodcat | not sure i have the emotional capacity to play regularly online | 20:37 |
| mrgoodcat | get killed over and over and over | 20:37 |
| mrgoodcat | feel sad | 20:37 |
| mrgoodcat | lol | 20:37 |
| mrgoodcat | the 9x9 computer on my android sucks. i have fun beating it | 20:37 |
| brousch_ | It's actually hard to find an active game | 20:37 |
| brousch_ | Mostly slackjaws like cmaloney who take 1 turn/day | 20:38 |
| mrgoodcat | that's what eventually killed words with friends for me | 20:38 |
| mrgoodcat | couldn't wait for people | 20:38 |
| mrgoodcat | and everybody either sucks or cheats at WwF | 20:38 |
| mrgoodcat | talented scrabble players are all 85 and don't have smart phones | 20:39 |
| mrgoodcat | i prefer to play my grandfather in person | 20:39 |
| brousch_ | The cheating killed it for me too | 20:39 |
| cmaloney | mrgoodcat: I like Dragon Go Server because you are both playing an open game that others can critique | 20:40 |
| cmaloney | so there's low cheating ability. | 20:40 |
| mrgoodcat | thats cool | 20:40 |
| mrgoodcat | well cheating is difficult in go i'd imagine | 20:40 |
| mrgoodcat | cheating in scrabble is easy peasy | 20:40 |
| cmaloney | Only thing I can think of is scoring | 20:40 |
| brousch_ | You could cheat by feeding the game to a good computer AI | 20:40 |
| mrgoodcat | it's not automatically calculated scoring? | 20:40 |
| cmaloney | but iirc you both have to agree on dead stones and such | 20:40 |
| cmaloney | brousch_: Of course | 20:41 |
| mrgoodcat | "good computer AI" isn't a thing in Go is it? | 20:41 |
| cmaloney | They're still working on it | 20:41 |
| mrgoodcat | i thought it was a huge deal when a super advanced AI beat even a mediocre player | 20:41 |
| cmaloney | GNUgo plays a game that can kick the ass of most beginners but can be easily sniffed out by advanced players | 20:41 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, they're not up to that level yet. | 20:42 |
| cmaloney | I'm craigm on Dragon Go Server | 20:43 |
| cmaloney | Also playing Star Realms like crazy | 20:43 |
| cmaloney | that's a deck-building game | 20:44 |
| cmaloney | one of the few games in my collection that JoDee will not only play online but will also ask to play in person. | 20:44 |
| cmaloney | She's addicted to that game. | 20:44 |
| mrgoodcat | lol | 20:44 |
| mrgoodcat | my $gf plays board games in person and no games online | 20:45 |
| cmaloney | I have no less than 6 games running at the moment | 20:45 |
| cmaloney | Which games? | 20:45 |
| mrgoodcat | catan mostly when we can get 2 others to play | 20:45 |
| mrgoodcat | we play double solitaire a lot | 20:45 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, that's a tough one for two players. | 20:45 |
| mrgoodcat | checkers | 20:45 |
| mrgoodcat | she sucks at chess but we play anyways | 20:45 |
| mrgoodcat | tried to get her to start Go. couldn't get her into it | 20:45 |
| cmaloney | Tried Go with JoDee as well. She's not into abstract games much | 20:46 |
| mrgoodcat | we have fun with chess | 20:46 |
| cmaloney | I like them though, even though I suck at them | 20:46 |
| mrgoodcat | even though i kick kim's ass | 20:46 |
| mrgoodcat | i suck at chess too | 20:46 |
| cmaloney | The GIPF project is really interesting to me | 20:46 |
| mrgoodcat | just not as much as kim | 20:46 |
| cmaloney | yeah, we don't play chess. I played chess against some good folks and learned a few tricks | 20:46 |
| mrgoodcat | never even heard of GIPF | 20:46 |
| cmaloney | but it's not interesting to me. | 20:46 |
| cmaloney | http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/527/gipf | 20:47 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/7HHZIs - GIPF | Board Game | BoardGameGeek | 20:47 |
| cmaloney | It's a set of 6-7 games that are all abstract | 20:47 |
| mrgoodcat | hmm | 20:48 |
| cmaloney | The Strong Recommendations games section are all of the games in the project | 20:48 |
| cmaloney | ZERTZ and DVONN are highly recommended | 20:49 |
| cmaloney | Just got PUNCT | 20:49 |
| mrgoodcat | wow crazy names | 20:49 |
| cmaloney | haven't convinced JoDee to play YINSH and TAMSK yet. | 20:49 |
| cmaloney | and she hated GIPF | 20:49 |
| cmaloney | TAMSK is the hardest one to find because it's no longer considered part of the project | 20:50 |
| cmaloney | http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/108/tamsk | 20:50 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/wTv3SB - TAMSK | Board Game | BoardGameGeek | 20:50 |
| mrgoodcat | PUNCT looks cool | 20:50 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, I'm looking forward to playing that one | 20:51 |
| cmaloney | they're really art pieces and interesting designs | 20:51 |
| cmaloney | But they're all two-player games. | 20:51 |
| cmaloney | http://boardgamegeek.com/wiki/page/project_GIPF | 20:53 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/N49EdQ - project GIPF | Wiki | BoardGameGeek | 20:53 |
| cmaloney | Here's a better page on how they all interlink | 20:53 |
| cmaloney | But yeah, I'm always looking for good 2-player board games. | 20:56 |
| mrgoodcat | so all 6 games are actually one game | 20:56 |
| mrgoodcat | ? | 20:56 |
| cmaloney | They're 6-7 separate games | 20:56 |
| cmaloney | but there's expansions where you can take the results of one of the other games and affect another game | 20:57 |
| mrgoodcat | ah | 20:57 |
| mrgoodcat | got it | 20:57 |
| mrgoodcat | http://rampantgames.com/blog/?p=7745 | 20:57 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/1OYDYY - Black Triangles | 20:57 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm going to steal the term black triangle from now on | 20:58 |
| mrgoodcat | i like it | 20:58 |
| mrgoodcat | hmmmm | 20:59 |
| mrgoodcat | .read http://rampantgames.com/blog/?p=7745 | 20:59 |
| bookiebot | http://r.bmark.us/u/d84ecd19fa19c0 | 20:59 |
| greg-g | ohhh, it reads it for me?! | 20:59 |
| mrgoodcat | now why does bookie.io not show any content for that? | 20:59 |
| mrgoodcat | https://bookie.io/bmark/readable/d84ecd19fa19c0 | 20:59 |
| mrgoodcat | greg-g: yes | 20:59 |
| mrgoodcat | i was thinking about making it a sort of read-it-later service backed by bookie.io | 20:59 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h_: why would bookie.io show "no parsed content" on a site that breadability can parse just fine? | 21:00 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: otp atm not sure | 21:01 |
| mrgoodcat | kk | 21:01 |
| mrgoodcat | going into class, i'll pick your brain later | 21:01 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: breadability version diff? | 21:01 |
| mrgoodcat | read command uses r.bmark.us | 21:01 |
| greg-g | does r.bmark.us work | 21:01 |
| mrgoodcat | so i'd figure bookie.io would be the same | 21:01 |
| mrgoodcat | greg-g: yes. .read uses it | 21:01 |
| mrgoodcat | time for class | 21:02 |
| mrgoodcat | talk to you all later | 21:02 |
| mrgoodcat | cmaloney: thanks for the game recommends. just texted the list to my $gf with the caption "*cough* ahem *cough* christmas" | 21:02 |
| mrgoodcat | we'll see what happens | 21:02 |
| cmaloney | mrgoodcat: LMK what sorts of games you are interested in. I have a few that I've looked into. | 21:04 |
| cmaloney | http://boardgamegeek.com/collection/user/craigm | 21:04 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/wCrGpN - craigm | User Collection | BoardGameGeek | 21:04 |
| cmaloney | yes, I am insane. :) | 21:04 |
| mrgoodcat | aaaand i'm back | 22:01 |
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