[02:24] oh boy, grant me the willpower to not be a rude $@!$# to someone [02:25] rick_h_: If he doesn't grant you the willpower can he grant us the chat logs? [02:32] cmaloney: ok, I need a conscious, I'm tired and cranky http://paste.ubuntu.com/8347329/ [02:32] http://goo.gl/lpx0PO - Ubuntu Pastebin [02:32] cmaloney: tell me what part I should not be sending [02:33] The second sentence on lines 26-27 [02:33] but but ... ok [02:34] gone [02:34] * rick_h_ grumbles about it [02:35] I'd reword 34: Thank you for continuing to use Bookie. I'd ask you to please continue to use the service as I've poured a lot of time and energy (for free) into a tool that I hope others will find useful. [02:35] but it's less passive agressive that way [02:35] 13: Twitter [02:35] yea, fixed that one thanks [02:36] Direct is best. :) [02:36] It's a little less bitchy that way. [02:36] but but that's the fun part [02:36] But also gives him an exit clause if he'd like to piss off [02:37] ok, updated, but also adding a link to http://alternativeto.net/software/bookie-bookmarks/ [02:37] http://goo.gl/6xhEEF - Bookie Alternatives and Similar Software - AlternativeTo.net [02:37] That's appropriate. [02:37] anything else before I hit send? [02:39] Not sure the "I don't know who 'we' is" is addressing. You may want to word it "Bookie is currently myself and whatever volunteers contribute to the project". [02:40] he says "I would like to know why nobody notified us' [02:40] I'll s/we/us [02:40] And you're answering it as such. [02:41] screw it, hit send [02:42] Yeah, I can understand why that pissed you off. [02:42] heh [02:42] I just spent nearly $1k this past week on new server stuff...yea call me bitchy [02:43] yeah, that's completely understandable [02:43] ty sir, I appreciate the filter [02:43] Not sure how you could make it any more plain what was going on. [02:43] np. Glad I could help out. :) [02:45] on the plus side, fulltext index is fully caught up and search should be kick ass now. [02:45] <_stink_> i thought it was perfect as pasted :) [02:45] _stink_: ty :) [02:45] I couldn't find the button for 'reach through the internet and throttle' [02:45] rick_h_: hah. I just ran into that broken extension situation [02:46] widox: sorry, I didn't test it but assumed the url redirects would 'just work' [02:46] and if it doesn't work, figured the big url redirect and such would jump out, or twitter, or irc. [02:46] well, it breaks because of the SSL cert [02:46] I should have hit up the mailing list I guess [02:46] _stink_: But then I couldn't use my superpower of peacemaking [02:46] widox: it shoudl only do that if you type in http://bmark.us [02:46] and I should fix that by having the http go back to https://bmark.us and then forward to https://bookie.io [02:47] dunno. that's what the debug console said [02:47] oh well sucky [02:47] * rick_h_ launches FF [02:47] I assume Chrome does the same...? [02:47] I think I changed it, I've not updated firefox to checking it out [02:48] well the damn thing jumps out with a yellow warning at least [02:48] it's not like it's hidden [02:48] * rick_h_ can't recall how to debug an installed extension crummy [02:48] <_stink_> cmaloney: i am very glad you have that skill [02:48] rick_h_: yep [02:48] anyway, it's not the fact that he filed a 'bug report' that made me cranky [02:48] <_stink_> i'll call you when i'm about to launch the nukes [02:48] it's the lack of a bug report and more of a the 'angry entitled freeloader personal email' [02:49] expecially when everythign else is so kick ass. The new hardware and such is making bookie fly [02:49] (well the fixed queries helped too) [02:50] sure, understandable [02:51] anyway, all good. It happens in OSS world. I've moved on [02:51] wheeeee [03:20] * rick_h_ goes off to bed night all [03:20] Laterness. :) [03:27] OK, this confirms it [03:27] I've said that the addresses in India look like driving directions [03:27] I shit thee not: part of the address for one of the students is "Mile Davis' "Tutu" is a testament on how certain electronic instruments haven't aged well. [03:27] fuck, bad c/p [03:28] I shit thee not: part of the address for one of the students is "Opp. Pizza-Hut" [03:28] <_stink_> haha [03:29] I'm fully expecting most, if not all of these to come back as undeliverable. [10:51] morning [11:22] morning [11:49] cmaloney: One of the Kivy mentors is in India. I can ask him stuff if you need me to [11:55] How was everybody's weekend, other than "too short"? (that's my answer...) [12:00] yea, camping weekend so party [12:01] heh, my RSS feed is full of old bookie results [12:02] yea, I think the server/feed change caused it to blow up once [12:02] brousch_: it seems fine after that initial blow up though hopefully [12:03] Ug, tired [12:03] I'm jealous. This is excellent camping weather [12:03] Was up until 1AM working on controlling an Arduino with Python [12:04] lol [12:04] you need to spend more time at home away from the hackerspace [12:04] it's affecting your sleep hah [12:04] It was at home! [12:04] Something wrong with controlling Arduino natively? :-P [12:04] wolfger: There are advantages even aside from the superior language [12:05] I spent Saturday afternoon/evening going to a Tigers game with work folks. Sunday I slept a bit and hit the driving range, then wasted the rest of my day watching the godawful Lions [12:05] Your controller is a real computer (or RPi) and has all of the Python ecosystem, Internet, etc available without shields [12:07] All of Linux (or even Windows) becomes available [12:08] Hmm. Learned something new today: http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/198481/why-cant-an-xml-comment-contain-two-hyphens [12:08] http://goo.gl/YVQvdm - sgml - Why can't an xml comment contain two hyphens - Programmers Stack Exchange [12:09] brousch_: so you're using Arduino basically as a real-world I/O interface to your lap/desktop? [12:09] Right [12:09] or Rpi [12:09] Lets you make interfaces with lights and physical buttons [12:10] Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute? (that's what Google gives me) [12:10] what's an Rpi? [12:10] Raspberry Pi [12:10] ah [12:11] I guess I'm not that familiar with Raspberry Pi. I would not have thought hooking it to an Arduino would be beneficial at all. I thought it was more of an Arduino replacement. [12:12] Do you live in a cave? [12:12] more or less [12:13] It's a full Linux (Debian based) computer running on ARM [12:13] Around about the time I bought an Arduino, everybody quit talking about Arduino and started talking about RPi. I just made an assumption and ignored it because I wasn't about to switch away from the toy I just bought. [12:13] They have different focuses [12:14] So it was just a conversational replacement and not a technical replacement... :-D [12:15] Well an RPi can do a lot of what Arduino does, but with more power usage and less flexibility [12:15] Arduinos now can be the size of your thumbnail [12:16] https://www.pjrc.com/teensy/teensy31.html [12:16] http://goo.gl/tdge4R - Teensy 3.1: New Features [12:21] brousch_: iirc there's a Python native thingie for Arduino. Name is escaping me at the moment [12:21] Yes. That's what I am using [12:22] pyfirmata is the low level module, and BreakfastSerial is a higher level module [12:22] pyfirmata's documentation is pretty much nonexistent [12:22] There was something else that I saw. [12:23] Gah, all I'm thinking of is numpy but that's completely off-base. [12:23] nanpy? [12:24] http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-12/06/micro-python [12:24] http://goo.gl/PpDWCO - Micro Python: more powerful than Arduino, simpler than the Raspberry Pi (Wired UK) [12:25] wolfger: Yeah, but it's an incomplete Python and a special board [12:25] what bus? [12:26] Hm, I never realized nanpy needed special firmware. Never mind. [12:26] That seems odd. Maybe they mean a sketch [12:27] Nah, there's something they're doing with it perhaps to make it more friendly with Python? [12:27] Not sure, but I'm not terribly interested in reflashing an Arduino. :) [12:27] Yeah, it's just an Arduino sketch [12:30] cmaloney: _stink_ widox got a nice contrite apology email today so good stuff [12:37] rick_h_: Awesome. :) [12:53] <_stink_> rick_h_: phew, faith restored. [13:08] hm, getting all sorts of weird retweets on my meeting announcement [13:08] My klout will soar! [13:10] woot [13:11] rick_h_: good deal [13:21] rick_h_: return_fragment=False is what i ended up needing [13:22] mrgoodcat: cool [13:23] mrgoodcat: ok I wasn't sure if you were using it from the cli or what [13:23] mrgoodcat: what are you using breadability for? [13:24] lol another bookiebot feature [13:24] go figure right? [13:24] ah, gotcha [13:24] actually it's not bookiebot for now [13:24] but i'm sure it will end up being [13:25] someone asked me to add a feature to the bot i maintain for the wmu computer club [13:25] what's the feature? [13:25] * rick_h_ wonders if r.bmark.us and it's api would do it for you [13:26] probably would [13:26] hang on real quick [13:26] .reload [13:26] reloaded 29 plugins in 0.011099 seconds [13:26] .read https://mojang.com/2014/09/yes-were-being-bought-by-microsoft/ [13:26] http://read.dyladan.me/qHh [13:26] http://goo.gl/5PSLcF - Yes, we’re being bought by Microsoft [13:27] that's the feature in a nutshell [13:27] yea, so you can use the api on r.bmark.us to create a readable version and a shortlink off of it [13:27] Morning again [13:27] its a little different than that because they want it integrated into the club website and admin-only access and whatnot [13:27] http://r.bmark.us/u/fdbf7b1ef07f2e [13:28] gotcha, ok. well fyi that's out there. It's a small python app you can run on heroku on the free tier [13:28] (where r.bmark.us runs) [13:28] woah... something is funky with the rendering [13:28] and you can just post the url https://github.com/bookieio/bookie_parser [13:28] http://goo.gl/ZirndA - bookieio/bookie_parser · GitHub [13:28] oh awesome [13:28] i might do it that way [13:29] is the rendering odd for you on that page? [13:29] https://github.com/bookieio/bookie_parser/blob/master/bookie_parser/__init__.py#L24 [13:29] http://goo.gl/sYjBuu - bookie_parser/__init__.py at master · bookieio/bookie_parser · GitHub [13:29] odd/slow [13:29] no, working here [13:30] must be my font renderer or something [13:30] i'm using arch [13:30] which means i have to set all that shit up [13:30] lol [13:33] is there r.bmark.us api docs? [13:33] or do i just post the url to r.bmark.us [13:34] mrgoodcat: I linked it in that __init_- [13:34] mrgoodcat: not great docs no, it's small/tiny [13:34] ok [13:34] two endpoints really [13:34] yea i'm looking at the init now [13:34] POST to it or GET the hash [13:34] line 24 [13:39] POST to /api/v1/parse with a json body {url:"http://awesomesite.com"} and thats it? [13:39] http://goo.gl/ml73yK - awesomesite.com [13:44] mrgoodcat: think so [13:44] mrgoodcat: been a bit since I tinkered with it [13:55] just so you know the json response returns the readable content twice [13:55] mrgoodcat: yea, one is some raw data or something [13:55] there was a reason for it [13:56] mrgoodcat: maybe one is the original content? [13:56] nope, exactly the same http://hastebin.com/igigawoviw.json [13:56] http://goo.gl/OO9ZLR - hastebin [13:56] readable and data[readable] [13:56] yea, don't recall why it did that I guess [13:56] lol [13:56] ok [13:57] maybe some api version history or something [13:57] just wanted to make sure you're aware [13:57] yea, the r.bmark.us needs some love [13:57] I had the goal of turning it into a full microservice and having bookie run all the links through it vs doing it on its own [13:58] I use it once in a while via the bookmarklet so that I can clean up hard to read articles [13:59] thats why we were using breadability more or less [13:59] yea [13:59] your use seemed to match up mine there [13:59] which is why I brought it up [14:13] rick_h_: when did bmark.us become bookie.io? [14:14] mrgoodcat: last week [14:14] like 4 days ago? [14:15] Yeah [14:16] mrgoodcat: something like that yes [14:17] greg-g: Picked up more Kyuss this weekend as well [14:17] Blues for the Red Sun and Welcome to Sky Valley [14:21] i'm trying to POST to bookie.io and getting SSL errors [14:23] Using Curl? [14:23] no [14:23] python requests [14:24] i turned off ssl verification and it started working [14:24] mrgoodcat: make sure it's https [14:24] it's all public anyways so i don't really care if I get MITM'd [14:24] it is [14:24] I had to turn off cert checking for my backup script using curl [14:24] api = "https://bookie.io/api/v1/bookiebot/bmark?api_key=%s" % apikey [14:24] (which I should have mentioned prior) [14:25] hmm, sucky [14:25] chrome says the cert is all good [14:25] cmaloney: your backup script hits bookie? [14:25] maybe something is up, will try to look [14:26] Yeah, it backs up the bookmarks on a nightly basis [14:26] oh got it [14:27] cmaloney: is that the json api or the htm one? [14:28] https://bookie.io/craig/export [14:29] cmaloney: ok cool [14:29] the api one (json) will get big soon now that we can join with readable content I'm going to enable dumping of the content with that api call [14:31] Does this export private bookmarks as well? I'm not authenticating to it. [14:31] it won't if you don't authenticate [14:31] the api will [14:31] and I think the export url you mention *should* if you add api auth to the url [14:32] Um, it will. :) [14:32] I'm not authenticating [14:33] bah [14:33] * rick_h_ knew we tested this as I made a stink about it [14:33] ok [14:39] .np squeekyhoho [14:39] squeekyhoho's current track - Apothecaries' Weight by Kyuss on Mercurious Pools [14:40] I really hate last.fm's album matching [14:45] why? is that wrong? [14:48] .np squeekyhoho [14:48] squeekyhoho's current track - Freedom Run by Kyuss on Mercurious Pools [14:49] The album is Blues for the Red Sun [14:49] Which I don't think you can do anything about at the bot level [14:50] nope [14:50] its all returned by the api [14:50] Yeah [14:51] Hence my initial complaint at last.fm. ;) [14:52] .read http://finance.yahoo.com/news/comcast-threatening-cut-off-customers-092817979.html [14:52] http://r.bmark.us/u/6795709eee7511 [14:52] now it uses bookie [14:52] Nice. [14:52] rick_h_: is r.bmark.us going to be r.bookie.io too? [14:53] mrgoodcat: yes, eventually [14:53] mrgoodcat: and then it'll be super fast and not on heroku's free tier [14:53] nice. :) [14:53] but only so much time for oss hobbies :/ [14:53] and I'll have more then 8mb of redis memory for caching old parsed urls [14:53] if nothing else, it at least gives me some nice readable default css :) [14:54] :) [14:54] it should be noted that Mercurious Pools is apparently a bootleg recording. [14:54] ok so r.bmark.us is definitely rendering funny for me [14:54] nobody else is seeing this? [14:54] scroll quickly on the article [14:54] the render is super slow [14:54] I'm seeing that as well [14:54] Chrome, right? [14:54] yerp [14:55] hmm, I've got some fancy background image on there repeating [14:55] maybe some computers don't like it [14:55] Almost like it's rendering an image [14:55] <_stink_> hmm, i'm not seenig anything funny [14:55] Firefox? [14:56] <_stink_> chromium on 14.04 [14:56] woah. that tab has a huge memory load too [14:58] well the memory usage went down, not sure what happened there, but that tab is taking huge CPU to scroll [14:58] by huge i mean ~40% of one core [15:03] I don't know. I'm not seeing anything described. No fancy background, no slow rendering. [15:10] i don't see a fancy background [15:10] just slow render [15:10] i'm on a slow-ish computer though [15:11] cmaloney: sweet :) which? [15:12] no issues in firefox [15:12] wolfger: what browser/version? [15:13] i'm using chrome Version 37.0.2062.120 (64-bit) [15:13] cmaloney: oh, you said, cool! [15:14] cmaloney: welcome to sky valley was my first Kyuss album === lmorchard23 is now known as lmorchard [15:44] greg-g: yeah, picked up all of the major Kyuss releases at UHF [15:50] mrgoodcat: Google Chrome Version 37.0.2062.103 m [15:50] mobile? [15:50] laptop [15:51] wondering what the m at the end is [15:51] I'm pretty sure I didn't select a specifically mobile version of Chrome, but I guess I don't recall. [15:52] also running ABP extension, as well as a few others [15:53] just updated to 120 m [15:53] its a css issue [15:53] disabling javascript didn't help [15:54] disabling css did [17:47] .np squeekyhoho [17:47] squeekyhoho's current track - The Melody (On The Deuce By 44) by Herbie Hancock on Dis Is Da Drum [17:47] <- word [19:50] Any Arrested Development fans? https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15833937-the-man-inside-me [19:50] http://goo.gl/3GdkKs - The Man Inside Me by Tobias Fünke — Reviews, Discussion, Bookclubs, Lists [19:53] I've watched and been amused by the show [19:53] I watched and was not amused [19:53] but my wife loved the thing [19:53] It's kind of like British Comedy. [19:53] I did not watch it on TV, but have watched the whole series 2x on Netflix [19:53] they'll pull references from previous shows [19:54] and won't explain things if you don't get it [19:54] It makes perfect sense if you don't miss any episodes! [19:54] Totally [19:54] Which is why it failed in the US [19:54] on air [19:54] because Fox can't seem to not fuck with a show. [19:55] Unless it's The Simpsons [19:55] note: working off of 10 year old information here. [19:58] cmaloney: Had a good Go battle with a random. 19x19 is interesting. On 9x9 you get 1 maybe 2 good fights and the game is over, but on 19x19 there are many more [19:58] Yeah, I have yet to play a full 19x19 game [19:59] 9x9 is pretty cramped. good for learning but a completely different game [19:59] 13x13 is interesting [20:00] Also: your capturing game is starting to piss me off. :) [20:01] rick_h_: when hacking on bookie_parser, should i change styles.css or styles.scss? [20:01] mrgoodcat: the scss, it's sass and compiles to the css [20:01] cool [20:01] ok [20:02] cmaloney: hah! [20:02] Fighting the randoms is helping [20:02] I can see that [20:03] I think you're going to win on prisoners alone [20:03] rick_h_: line 63 of styles.scss is the line causing the rendering issues [20:03] mrgoodcat: k [20:04] oddly it doesn't seem to do anything [20:04] on chrome anyways [20:04] i can't see any difference [20:15] the makefile takes a while on this project... [20:18] can't get the makefile to work on my machine for some reason (possibly because archlinux) so i can't test, but i'm 100% sure that line is the issue [20:26] seems to be working on ubuntu vps [20:26] slowly [20:29] gah failed [20:31] .np squeekyhoho [20:31] squeekyhoho's current track - Adventure by Disasterpeace on Fez [20:33] cmaloney brousch_ i played a 13x13 game with a random. got my ass kicked [20:33] :/ [20:33] every time i thought maybe i was salvaging the game... NOPE CRUSHED [20:34] I have not beaten a random yet [20:34] mrgoodcat: Are you on DGS? [20:34] not even sure what that is [20:34] i'm playing on my android [20:34] called goonline or something like that [20:36] http://www.dragongoserver.net/ [20:36] http://goo.gl/M2HG - DGS - Dragon Go Server [20:36] Lets you play in the browser or via an Android app [20:36] hmm cool [20:37] not sure i have the emotional capacity to play regularly online [20:37] get killed over and over and over [20:37] feel sad [20:37] lol [20:37] the 9x9 computer on my android sucks. i have fun beating it [20:37] It's actually hard to find an active game [20:38] Mostly slackjaws like cmaloney who take 1 turn/day [20:38] that's what eventually killed words with friends for me [20:38] couldn't wait for people [20:38] and everybody either sucks or cheats at WwF [20:39] talented scrabble players are all 85 and don't have smart phones [20:39] i prefer to play my grandfather in person [20:39] The cheating killed it for me too [20:40] mrgoodcat: I like Dragon Go Server because you are both playing an open game that others can critique [20:40] so there's low cheating ability. [20:40] thats cool [20:40] well cheating is difficult in go i'd imagine [20:40] cheating in scrabble is easy peasy [20:40] Only thing I can think of is scoring [20:40] You could cheat by feeding the game to a good computer AI [20:40] it's not automatically calculated scoring? [20:40] but iirc you both have to agree on dead stones and such [20:41] brousch_: Of course [20:41] "good computer AI" isn't a thing in Go is it? [20:41] They're still working on it [20:41] i thought it was a huge deal when a super advanced AI beat even a mediocre player [20:41] GNUgo plays a game that can kick the ass of most beginners but can be easily sniffed out by advanced players [20:42] Yeah, they're not up to that level yet. [20:43] I'm craigm on Dragon Go Server [20:43] Also playing Star Realms like crazy [20:44] that's a deck-building game [20:44] one of the few games in my collection that JoDee will not only play online but will also ask to play in person. [20:44] She's addicted to that game. [20:44] lol [20:45] my $gf plays board games in person and no games online [20:45] I have no less than 6 games running at the moment [20:45] Which games? [20:45] catan mostly when we can get 2 others to play [20:45] we play double solitaire a lot [20:45] Yeah, that's a tough one for two players. [20:45] checkers [20:45] she sucks at chess but we play anyways [20:45] tried to get her to start Go. couldn't get her into it [20:46] Tried Go with JoDee as well. She's not into abstract games much [20:46] we have fun with chess [20:46] I like them though, even though I suck at them [20:46] even though i kick kim's ass [20:46] i suck at chess too [20:46] The GIPF project is really interesting to me [20:46] just not as much as kim [20:46]