[02:24] <rick_h_> oh boy, grant me the willpower to not be a rude $@!$# to someone
[02:25] <cmaloney> rick_h_: If he doesn't grant you the willpower can he grant us the chat logs?
[02:32] <rick_h_> cmaloney: ok, I need a conscious, I'm tired and cranky http://paste.ubuntu.com/8347329/
[02:32] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/lpx0PO - Ubuntu Pastebin
[02:32] <rick_h_> cmaloney: tell me what part I should not be sending
[02:33] <cmaloney> The second sentence on lines 26-27
[02:33] <rick_h_> but but ... ok
[02:34] <rick_h_> gone
[02:34]  * rick_h_ grumbles about it
[02:35] <cmaloney> I'd reword 34: Thank you for continuing to use Bookie. I'd ask you to please continue to use the service as I've poured a lot of time and energy (for free) into a tool that I hope others will find useful.
[02:35] <rick_h_> but it's less passive agressive that way
[02:35] <cmaloney> 13: Twitter
[02:35] <rick_h_> yea, fixed that one thanks
[02:36] <cmaloney> Direct is best. :)
[02:36] <cmaloney> It's a little less bitchy that way.
[02:36] <rick_h_> but but that's the fun part
[02:36] <cmaloney> But also gives him an exit clause if he'd like to piss off
[02:37] <rick_h_> ok, updated, but also adding a link to http://alternativeto.net/software/bookie-bookmarks/
[02:37] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/6xhEEF - Bookie Alternatives and Similar Software - AlternativeTo.net
[02:37] <cmaloney> That's appropriate.
[02:37] <rick_h_> anything else before I hit send?
[02:39] <cmaloney> Not sure the "I don't know who 'we' is" is addressing. You may want to word it "Bookie is currently myself and whatever volunteers contribute to the project".
[02:40] <rick_h_> he says "I would like to know why nobody notified us'
[02:40] <rick_h_> I'll s/we/us
[02:40] <cmaloney> And you're answering it as such.
[02:41] <rick_h_> screw it, hit send
[02:42] <cmaloney> Yeah, I can understand why that pissed you off.
[02:42] <cmaloney> heh
[02:42] <rick_h_> I just spent nearly $1k this past week on new server stuff...yea call me bitchy
[02:43] <cmaloney> yeah, that's completely understandable
[02:43] <rick_h_> ty sir, I appreciate the filter
[02:43] <cmaloney> Not sure how you could make it any more plain what was going on.
[02:43] <cmaloney> np. Glad I could help out. :)
[02:45] <rick_h_> on the plus side, fulltext index is fully caught up and search should be kick ass now.
[02:45] <_stink_> i thought it was perfect as pasted :)
[02:45] <rick_h_> _stink_: ty :)
[02:45] <rick_h_> I couldn't find the button for 'reach through the internet and throttle'
[02:45] <widox> rick_h_: hah. I just ran into that broken extension situation
[02:46] <rick_h_> widox: sorry, I didn't test it but assumed the url redirects would 'just work'
[02:46] <rick_h_> and if it doesn't work, figured the big url redirect and such would jump out, or twitter, or irc.
[02:46] <widox> well, it breaks because of the SSL cert
[02:46] <rick_h_> I should have hit up the mailing list I guess
[02:46] <cmaloney> _stink_: But then I couldn't use my superpower of peacemaking
[02:46] <rick_h_> widox: it shoudl only do that if you type in http://bmark.us
[02:46] <rick_h_> and I should fix that by having the http go back to https://bmark.us and then forward to https://bookie.io
[02:47] <widox> dunno. that's what the debug console said
[02:47] <rick_h_> oh well sucky
[02:47]  * rick_h_ launches FF
[02:47] <widox> I assume Chrome does the same...?
[02:47] <rick_h_> I think I changed it, I've not updated firefox to checking it out
[02:48] <rick_h_> well the damn thing jumps out with a yellow warning at least
[02:48] <rick_h_> it's not like it's hidden
[02:48]  * rick_h_ can't recall how to debug an installed extension crummy
[02:48] <_stink_> cmaloney: i am very glad you have that skill
[02:48] <widox> rick_h_: yep
[02:48] <rick_h_> anyway, it's not the fact that he filed a 'bug report' that made me cranky
[02:48] <_stink_> i'll call you when i'm about to launch the nukes
[02:48] <rick_h_> it's the lack of a bug report and more of a the 'angry entitled freeloader personal email'
[02:49] <rick_h_> expecially when everythign else is so kick ass. The new hardware and such is making bookie fly
[02:49] <rick_h_> (well the fixed queries helped too)
[02:50] <widox> sure, understandable
[02:51] <rick_h_> anyway, all good. It happens in OSS world. I've moved on
[02:51] <rick_h_> wheeeee
[03:20]  * rick_h_ goes off to bed night all
[03:20] <cmaloney> Laterness. :)
[03:27] <cmaloney> OK, this confirms it
[03:27] <cmaloney> I've said that the addresses in India look like driving directions
[03:27] <cmaloney> I shit thee not: part of the address for one of the students is "Mile Davis' "Tutu" is a testament on how certain electronic instruments haven't aged well.
[03:27] <cmaloney> fuck, bad c/p
[03:28] <cmaloney> I shit thee not: part of the address for one of the students is "Opp. Pizza-Hut"
[03:28] <_stink_> haha
[03:29] <cmaloney> I'm fully expecting most, if not all of these to come back as undeliverable.
[10:51] <wolfger> morning
[11:22] <rick_h_> morning
[11:49] <brousch_> cmaloney: One of the Kivy mentors is in India. I can ask him stuff if you need me to
[11:55] <wolfger> How was everybody's weekend, other than "too short"? (that's my answer...)
[12:00] <rick_h_> yea, camping weekend so party
[12:01] <brousch_> heh, my RSS feed is full of old bookie results
[12:02] <rick_h_> yea, I think the server/feed change caused it to blow up once
[12:02] <rick_h_> brousch_: it seems fine after that initial blow up though hopefully
[12:03] <brousch_> Ug, tired
[12:03] <wolfger> I'm jealous. This is excellent camping weather
[12:03] <brousch_> Was up until 1AM working on controlling an Arduino with Python
[12:04] <rick_h_> lol
[12:04] <rick_h_> you need to spend more time at home away from the hackerspace
[12:04] <rick_h_> it's affecting your sleep hah
[12:04] <brousch_> It was at home!
[12:04] <wolfger> Something wrong with controlling Arduino natively? :-P
[12:04] <brousch_> wolfger: There are advantages even aside from the superior language
[12:05] <wolfger> I spent Saturday afternoon/evening going to a Tigers game with work folks. Sunday I slept a bit and hit the driving range, then wasted the rest of my day watching the godawful Lions
[12:05] <brousch_> Your controller is a real computer (or RPi) and has all of the Python ecosystem, Internet, etc available without shields
[12:07] <brousch_> All of Linux (or even Windows) becomes available
[12:08] <wolfger> Hmm. Learned something new today: http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/198481/why-cant-an-xml-comment-contain-two-hyphens
[12:08] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/YVQvdm - sgml - Why can't an xml comment contain two hyphens - Programmers Stack Exchange
[12:09] <wolfger> brousch_: so you're using Arduino basically as a real-world I/O interface to your lap/desktop?
[12:09] <brousch_> Right
[12:09] <brousch_> or Rpi
[12:09] <brousch_> Lets you make interfaces with lights and physical buttons
[12:10] <wolfger> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute? (that's what Google gives me)
[12:10] <wolfger> what's an Rpi?
[12:10] <brousch_> Raspberry Pi
[12:10] <wolfger> ah
[12:11] <wolfger> I guess I'm not that familiar with Raspberry Pi. I would not have thought hooking it to an Arduino would be beneficial at all. I thought it was more of an Arduino replacement.
[12:12] <brousch_> Do you live in a cave?
[12:12] <wolfger> more or less
[12:13] <brousch_> It's a full Linux (Debian based) computer running on ARM
[12:13] <wolfger> Around about the time I bought an Arduino, everybody quit talking about Arduino and started talking about RPi. I just made an assumption and ignored it because I wasn't about to switch away from the toy I just bought.
[12:13] <brousch_> They have different focuses
[12:14] <wolfger> So it was just a conversational replacement and not a technical replacement... :-D
[12:15] <brousch_> Well an RPi can do a lot of what Arduino does, but with more power usage and less flexibility
[12:15] <brousch_> Arduinos now can be the size of your thumbnail
[12:16] <brousch_> https://www.pjrc.com/teensy/teensy31.html
[12:16] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/tdge4R - Teensy 3.1: New Features
[12:21] <cmaloney> brousch_: iirc there's a Python native thingie for Arduino. Name is escaping me at the moment
[12:21] <brousch_> Yes. That's what I am using
[12:22] <brousch_> pyfirmata is the low level module, and BreakfastSerial is a higher level module
[12:22] <brousch_> pyfirmata's documentation is pretty much nonexistent
[12:22] <cmaloney> There was something else that I saw.
[12:23] <cmaloney> Gah, all I'm thinking of is numpy but that's completely off-base.
[12:23] <cmaloney> nanpy?
[12:24] <wolfger> http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-12/06/micro-python
[12:24] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/PpDWCO - Micro Python: more powerful than Arduino, simpler than the Raspberry Pi (Wired UK)
[12:25] <brousch_> wolfger: Yeah, but it's an incomplete Python and a special board
[12:25] <jrwren_> what bus?
[12:26] <cmaloney> Hm, I never realized nanpy needed special firmware. Never mind.
[12:26] <brousch_> That seems odd. Maybe they mean a sketch
[12:27] <cmaloney> Nah, there's something they're doing with it perhaps to make it more friendly with Python?
[12:27] <cmaloney> Not sure, but I'm not terribly interested in reflashing an Arduino. :)
[12:27] <brousch_> Yeah, it's just an Arduino sketch
[12:30] <rick_h_> cmaloney: _stink_ widox got a nice contrite apology email today so good stuff
[12:37] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Awesome. :)
[12:53] <_stink_> rick_h_: phew, faith restored.
[13:08] <brousch_> hm, getting all sorts of weird retweets on my meeting announcement
[13:08] <brousch_> My klout will soar!
[13:10] <wolfger> woot
[13:11] <widox> rick_h_: good deal
[13:21] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: return_fragment=False is what i ended up needing
[13:22] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: cool
[13:23] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: ok I wasn't sure if you were using it from the cli or what
[13:23] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: what are you using breadability for?
[13:24] <mrgoodcat> lol another bookiebot feature
[13:24] <mrgoodcat> go figure right?
[13:24] <rick_h_> ah, gotcha
[13:24] <mrgoodcat> actually it's not bookiebot for now
[13:24] <mrgoodcat> but i'm sure it will end up being
[13:25] <mrgoodcat> someone asked me to add a feature to the bot i maintain for the wmu computer club
[13:25] <rick_h_> what's the feature?
[13:25]  * rick_h_ wonders if r.bmark.us and it's api would do it for you
[13:26] <mrgoodcat> probably would
[13:26] <mrgoodcat> hang on real quick
[13:26] <mrgoodcat> .reload
[13:26] <bookiebot> reloaded 29 plugins in 0.011099 seconds
[13:26] <mrgoodcat> .read https://mojang.com/2014/09/yes-were-being-bought-by-microsoft/
[13:26] <bookiebot> http://read.dyladan.me/qHh
[13:26] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/5PSLcF - Yes, we’re being bought by Microsoft
[13:27] <mrgoodcat> that's the feature in a nutshell
[13:27] <rick_h_> yea, so you can use the api on r.bmark.us to create a readable version and a shortlink off of it
[13:27] <cmaloney> Morning again
[13:27] <mrgoodcat> its a little different than that because they want it integrated into the club website and admin-only access and whatnot
[13:27] <rick_h_> http://r.bmark.us/u/fdbf7b1ef07f2e
[13:28] <rick_h_> gotcha, ok. well fyi that's out there. It's a small python app you can run on heroku on the free tier
[13:28] <rick_h_> (where r.bmark.us runs)
[13:28] <mrgoodcat> woah... something is funky with the rendering
[13:28] <rick_h_> and you can just post the url https://github.com/bookieio/bookie_parser
[13:28] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/ZirndA - bookieio/bookie_parser · GitHub
[13:28] <mrgoodcat> oh awesome
[13:28] <mrgoodcat> i might do it that way
[13:29] <mrgoodcat> is the rendering odd for you on that page?
[13:29] <rick_h_> https://github.com/bookieio/bookie_parser/blob/master/bookie_parser/__init__.py#L24
[13:29] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/sYjBuu - bookie_parser/__init__.py at master · bookieio/bookie_parser · GitHub
[13:29] <mrgoodcat> odd/slow
[13:29] <rick_h_> no, working here
[13:30] <mrgoodcat> must be my font renderer or something
[13:30] <mrgoodcat> i'm using arch
[13:30] <mrgoodcat> which means i have to set all that shit up
[13:30] <rick_h_> lol
[13:33] <mrgoodcat> is there r.bmark.us api docs?
[13:33] <mrgoodcat> or do i just post the url to r.bmark.us
[13:34] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: I linked it in that __init_-
[13:34] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: not great docs no, it's small/tiny
[13:34] <mrgoodcat> ok
[13:34] <rick_h_> two endpoints really
[13:34] <mrgoodcat> yea i'm looking at the init now
[13:34] <rick_h_> POST to it or GET the hash
[13:34] <rick_h_> line 24
[13:39] <mrgoodcat> POST to /api/v1/parse with a json body {url:"http://awesomesite.com"} and thats it?
[13:39] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/ml73yK - awesomesite.com
[13:44] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: think so
[13:44] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: been a bit since I tinkered with it
[13:55] <mrgoodcat> just so you know the json response returns the readable content twice
[13:55] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: yea, one is some raw data or something
[13:55] <rick_h_> there was a reason for it
[13:56] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: maybe one is the original content?
[13:56] <mrgoodcat> nope, exactly the same http://hastebin.com/igigawoviw.json
[13:56] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/OO9ZLR - hastebin
[13:56] <mrgoodcat> readable and data[readable]
[13:56] <rick_h_> yea, don't recall why it did that I guess
[13:56] <mrgoodcat> lol
[13:56] <mrgoodcat> ok
[13:57] <rick_h_> maybe some api version history or something
[13:57] <mrgoodcat> just wanted to make sure you're aware
[13:57] <rick_h_> yea, the r.bmark.us needs some love
[13:57] <rick_h_> I had the goal of turning it into a full microservice and having bookie run all the links through it vs doing it on its own
[13:58] <rick_h_> I use it once in a while via the bookmarklet so that I can clean up hard to read articles
[13:59] <mrgoodcat> thats why we were using breadability more or less
[13:59] <rick_h_> yea
[13:59] <rick_h_> your use seemed to match up mine there
[13:59] <rick_h_> which is why I brought it up
[14:13] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: when did bmark.us become bookie.io?
[14:14] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: last week
[14:14] <mrgoodcat> like 4 days ago?
[14:15] <cmaloney> Yeah
[14:16] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: something like that yes
[14:17] <cmaloney> greg-g: Picked up more Kyuss this weekend as well
[14:17] <cmaloney> Blues for the Red Sun and Welcome to Sky Valley
[14:21] <mrgoodcat> i'm trying to POST to bookie.io and getting SSL errors
[14:23] <cmaloney> Using Curl?
[14:23] <mrgoodcat> no
[14:23] <mrgoodcat> python requests
[14:24] <mrgoodcat> i turned off ssl verification and it started working
[14:24] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: make sure it's https
[14:24] <mrgoodcat> it's all public anyways so i don't really care if I get MITM'd
[14:24] <mrgoodcat> it is
[14:24] <cmaloney> I had to turn off cert checking for my backup script using curl
[14:24] <mrgoodcat> api = "https://bookie.io/api/v1/bookiebot/bmark?api_key=%s" % apikey
[14:24] <cmaloney> (which I should have mentioned prior)
[14:25] <rick_h_> hmm, sucky
[14:25] <rick_h_> chrome says the cert is all good
[14:25] <mrgoodcat> cmaloney: your backup script hits bookie?
[14:25] <rick_h_> maybe something is up, will try to look
[14:26] <cmaloney> Yeah, it backs up the bookmarks on a nightly basis
[14:26] <mrgoodcat> oh got it
[14:27] <rick_h_> cmaloney: is that the json api or the htm one?
[14:28] <cmaloney> https://bookie.io/craig/export
[14:29] <rick_h_> cmaloney: ok cool
[14:29] <rick_h_> the api one (json) will get big soon now that we can join with readable content I'm going to enable dumping of the content with that api call
[14:31] <cmaloney> Does this export private bookmarks as well? I'm not authenticating to it.
[14:31] <rick_h_> it won't if you don't authenticate
[14:31] <rick_h_> the api will
[14:31] <rick_h_> and I think the export url you mention *should* if you add api auth to the url
[14:32] <cmaloney> Um, it will. :)
[14:32] <cmaloney> I'm not authenticating
[14:33] <rick_h_> bah
[14:33]  * rick_h_ knew we tested this as I made a stink about it
[14:33] <rick_h_> ok
[14:39] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[14:39] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - Apothecaries' Weight by Kyuss on Mercurious Pools
[14:40] <cmaloney> I really hate last.fm's album matching
[14:45] <mrgoodcat> why? is that wrong?
[14:48] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[14:48] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - Freedom Run by Kyuss on Mercurious Pools
[14:49] <cmaloney> The album is Blues for the Red Sun
[14:49] <cmaloney> Which I don't think you can do anything about at the bot level
[14:50] <mrgoodcat> nope
[14:50] <mrgoodcat> its all returned by the api
[14:50] <cmaloney> Yeah
[14:51] <cmaloney> Hence my initial complaint at last.fm. ;)
[14:52] <mrgoodcat> .read http://finance.yahoo.com/news/comcast-threatening-cut-off-customers-092817979.html
[14:52] <bookiebot> http://r.bmark.us/u/6795709eee7511
[14:52] <mrgoodcat> now it uses bookie
[14:52] <cmaloney> Nice.
[14:52] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: is r.bmark.us going to be r.bookie.io too?
[14:53] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: yes, eventually
[14:53] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: and then it'll be super fast and not on heroku's free tier
[14:53] <cmaloney> nice. :)
[14:53] <rick_h_> but only so much time for oss hobbies :/
[14:53] <rick_h_> and I'll have more then 8mb of redis memory for caching old parsed urls
[14:53] <mrgoodcat> if nothing else, it at least gives me some nice readable default css :)
[14:54] <rick_h_> :)
[14:54] <cmaloney> it should be noted that Mercurious Pools is apparently a bootleg recording.
[14:54] <mrgoodcat> ok so r.bmark.us is definitely rendering funny for me
[14:54] <mrgoodcat> nobody else is seeing this?
[14:54] <mrgoodcat> scroll quickly on the article
[14:54] <mrgoodcat> the render is super slow
[14:54] <cmaloney> I'm seeing that as well
[14:54] <cmaloney> Chrome, right?
[14:54] <mrgoodcat> yerp
[14:55] <rick_h_> hmm, I've got some fancy background image on there repeating
[14:55] <rick_h_> maybe some computers don't like it
[14:55] <cmaloney> Almost like it's rendering an image
[14:55] <_stink_> hmm, i'm not seenig anything funny
[14:55] <cmaloney> Firefox?
[14:56] <_stink_> chromium on 14.04
[14:56] <mrgoodcat> woah. that tab has a huge memory load too
[14:58] <mrgoodcat> well the memory usage went down, not sure what happened there, but that tab is taking huge CPU to scroll
[14:58] <mrgoodcat> by huge i mean ~40% of one core
[15:03] <wolfger> I don't know. I'm not seeing anything described. No fancy background, no slow rendering.
[15:10] <mrgoodcat> i don't see a fancy background
[15:10] <mrgoodcat> just slow render
[15:10] <mrgoodcat> i'm on a slow-ish computer though
[15:11] <greg-g> cmaloney: sweet :) which?
[15:12] <mrgoodcat> no issues in firefox
[15:12] <mrgoodcat> wolfger: what browser/version?
[15:13] <mrgoodcat> i'm using chrome Version 37.0.2062.120 (64-bit)
[15:13] <greg-g> cmaloney: oh, you said, cool!
[15:14] <greg-g> cmaloney: welcome to sky valley was my first Kyuss album
[15:44] <cmaloney> greg-g: yeah, picked up all of the major Kyuss releases at UHF
[15:50] <wolfger> mrgoodcat: Google Chrome Version 37.0.2062.103 m
[15:50] <mrgoodcat> mobile?
[15:50] <wolfger> laptop
[15:51] <mrgoodcat> wondering what the m at the end is
[15:51] <wolfger> I'm pretty sure I didn't select a specifically mobile version of Chrome, but I guess I don't recall.
[15:52] <wolfger> also running ABP extension, as well as a few others
[15:53] <wolfger> just updated to 120 m
[15:53] <mrgoodcat> its a css issue
[15:53] <mrgoodcat> disabling javascript didn't help
[15:54] <mrgoodcat> disabling css did
[17:47] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[17:47] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - The Melody (On The Deuce By 44) by Herbie Hancock on Dis Is Da Drum
[17:47] <cmaloney> <- word
[19:50] <brousch_> Any Arrested Development fans? https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15833937-the-man-inside-me
[19:50] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/3GdkKs - The Man Inside Me by Tobias Fünke — Reviews, Discussion, Bookclubs, Lists
[19:53] <cmaloney> I've watched and been amused by the show
[19:53] <rick_h_> I watched and was not amused
[19:53] <rick_h_> but my wife loved the thing
[19:53] <cmaloney> It's kind of like British Comedy.
[19:53] <brousch_> I did not watch it on TV, but have watched the whole series 2x on Netflix
[19:53] <cmaloney> they'll pull references from previous shows
[19:54] <cmaloney> and won't explain things if you don't get it
[19:54] <brousch_> It makes perfect sense if you don't miss any episodes!
[19:54] <cmaloney> Totally
[19:54] <cmaloney> Which is why it failed in the US
[19:54] <cmaloney> on air
[19:54] <cmaloney> because Fox can't seem to not fuck with a show.
[19:55] <cmaloney> Unless it's The Simpsons
[19:55] <cmaloney> note: working off of 10 year old information here.
[19:58] <brousch_> cmaloney: Had a good Go battle with a random. 19x19 is interesting. On 9x9 you get 1 maybe 2 good fights and the game is over, but on 19x19 there are many more
[19:58] <cmaloney> Yeah, I have yet to play a full 19x19 game
[19:59] <cmaloney> 9x9 is pretty cramped. good for learning but a completely different game
[19:59] <cmaloney> 13x13 is interesting
[20:00] <cmaloney> Also: your capturing game is starting to piss me off. :)
[20:01] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: when hacking on bookie_parser, should i change styles.css or styles.scss?
[20:01] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: the scss, it's sass and compiles to the css
[20:01] <mrgoodcat> cool
[20:01] <mrgoodcat> ok
[20:02] <brousch_> cmaloney: hah!
[20:02] <brousch_> Fighting the randoms is helping
[20:02] <cmaloney> I can see that
[20:03] <cmaloney> I think you're going to win on prisoners alone
[20:03] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: line 63 of styles.scss is the line causing the rendering issues
[20:03] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: k
[20:04] <mrgoodcat> oddly it doesn't seem to do anything
[20:04] <mrgoodcat> on chrome anyways
[20:04] <mrgoodcat> i can't see any difference
[20:15] <mrgoodcat> the makefile takes a while on this project...
[20:18] <mrgoodcat> can't get the makefile to work on my machine for some reason (possibly because archlinux) so i can't test, but i'm 100% sure that line is the issue
[20:26] <mrgoodcat> seems to be working on ubuntu vps
[20:26] <mrgoodcat> slowly
[20:29] <mrgoodcat> gah failed
[20:31] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[20:31] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - Adventure by Disasterpeace on Fez
[20:33] <mrgoodcat> cmaloney brousch_ i played a 13x13 game with a random. got my ass kicked
[20:33] <mrgoodcat> :/
[20:33] <mrgoodcat> every time i thought maybe i was salvaging the game... NOPE CRUSHED
[20:34] <brousch_> I have not beaten a random yet
[20:34] <brousch_> mrgoodcat: Are you on DGS?
[20:34] <mrgoodcat> not even sure what that is
[20:34] <mrgoodcat> i'm playing on my android
[20:34] <mrgoodcat> called goonline or something like that
[20:36] <brousch_> http://www.dragongoserver.net/
[20:36] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/M2HG - DGS - Dragon Go Server
[20:36] <brousch_> Lets you play in the browser or via an Android app
[20:36] <mrgoodcat> hmm cool
[20:37] <mrgoodcat> not sure i have the emotional capacity to play regularly online
[20:37] <mrgoodcat> get killed over and over and over
[20:37] <mrgoodcat> feel sad
[20:37] <mrgoodcat> lol
[20:37] <mrgoodcat> the 9x9 computer on my android sucks. i have fun beating it
[20:37] <brousch_> It's actually hard to find an active game
[20:38] <brousch_> Mostly slackjaws like cmaloney who take 1 turn/day
[20:38] <mrgoodcat> that's what eventually killed words with friends for me
[20:38] <mrgoodcat> couldn't wait for people
[20:38] <mrgoodcat> and everybody either sucks or cheats at WwF
[20:39] <mrgoodcat> talented scrabble players are all 85 and don't have smart phones
[20:39] <mrgoodcat> i prefer to play my grandfather in person
[20:39] <brousch_> The cheating killed it for me too
[20:40] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: I like Dragon Go Server because you are both playing an open game that others can critique
[20:40] <cmaloney> so there's low cheating ability.
[20:40] <mrgoodcat> thats cool
[20:40] <mrgoodcat> well cheating is difficult in go i'd imagine
[20:40] <mrgoodcat> cheating in scrabble is easy peasy
[20:40] <cmaloney> Only thing I can think of is scoring
[20:40] <brousch_> You could cheat by feeding the game to a good computer AI
[20:40] <mrgoodcat> it's not automatically calculated scoring?
[20:40] <cmaloney> but iirc you both have to agree on dead stones and such
[20:41] <cmaloney> brousch_: Of course
[20:41] <mrgoodcat> "good computer AI" isn't a thing in Go is it?
[20:41] <cmaloney> They're still working on it
[20:41] <mrgoodcat> i thought it was a huge deal when a super advanced AI beat even a mediocre player
[20:41] <cmaloney> GNUgo plays a game that can kick the ass of most beginners but can be easily sniffed out by advanced players
[20:42] <cmaloney> Yeah, they're not up to that level yet.
[20:43] <cmaloney> I'm craigm on Dragon Go Server
[20:43] <cmaloney> Also playing Star Realms like crazy
[20:44] <cmaloney> that's a deck-building game
[20:44] <cmaloney> one of the few games in my collection that JoDee will not only play online but will also ask to play in person.
[20:44] <cmaloney> She's addicted to that game.
[20:44] <mrgoodcat> lol
[20:45] <mrgoodcat> my $gf plays board games in person and no games online
[20:45] <cmaloney> I have no less than 6 games running at the moment
[20:45] <cmaloney> Which games?
[20:45] <mrgoodcat> catan mostly when we can get 2 others to play
[20:45] <mrgoodcat> we play double solitaire a lot
[20:45] <cmaloney> Yeah, that's a tough one for two players.
[20:45] <mrgoodcat> checkers
[20:45] <mrgoodcat> she sucks at chess but we play anyways
[20:45] <mrgoodcat> tried to get her to start Go. couldn't get her into it
[20:46] <cmaloney> Tried Go with JoDee as well. She's not into abstract games much
[20:46] <mrgoodcat> we have fun with chess
[20:46] <cmaloney> I like them though, even though I suck at them
[20:46] <mrgoodcat> even though i kick kim's ass
[20:46] <mrgoodcat> i suck at chess too
[20:46] <cmaloney> The GIPF project is really interesting to me
[20:46] <mrgoodcat> just not as much as kim
[20:46] <cmaloney> yeah, we don't play chess. I played chess against some good folks and learned a few tricks
[20:46] <mrgoodcat> never even heard of GIPF
[20:46] <cmaloney> but it's not interesting to me.
[20:47] <cmaloney> http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/527/gipf
[20:47] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/7HHZIs - GIPF | Board Game | BoardGameGeek
[20:47] <cmaloney> It's a set of 6-7 games that are all abstract
[20:48] <mrgoodcat> hmm
[20:48] <cmaloney> The Strong Recommendations games section are all of the games in the project
[20:49] <cmaloney> ZERTZ and DVONN are highly recommended
[20:49] <cmaloney> Just got PUNCT
[20:49] <mrgoodcat> wow crazy names
[20:49] <cmaloney> haven't convinced JoDee to play YINSH and TAMSK yet.
[20:49] <cmaloney> and she hated GIPF
[20:50] <cmaloney> TAMSK is the hardest one to find because it's no longer considered part of the project
[20:50] <cmaloney> http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/108/tamsk
[20:50] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/wTv3SB - TAMSK | Board Game | BoardGameGeek
[20:50] <mrgoodcat> PUNCT looks cool
[20:51] <cmaloney> Yeah, I'm looking forward to playing that one
[20:51] <cmaloney> they're really art pieces and interesting designs
[20:51] <cmaloney> But they're all two-player games.
[20:53] <cmaloney> http://boardgamegeek.com/wiki/page/project_GIPF
[20:53] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/N49EdQ - project GIPF | Wiki | BoardGameGeek
[20:53] <cmaloney> Here's a better page on how they all interlink
[20:56] <cmaloney> But yeah, I'm always looking for good 2-player board games.
[20:56] <mrgoodcat> so all 6 games are actually one game
[20:56] <mrgoodcat> ?
[20:56] <cmaloney> They're 6-7 separate games
[20:57] <cmaloney> but there's expansions where you can take the results of one of the other games and affect another game
[20:57] <mrgoodcat> ah
[20:57] <mrgoodcat> got it
[20:57] <mrgoodcat> http://rampantgames.com/blog/?p=7745
[20:57] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/1OYDYY - Black Triangles
[20:58] <mrgoodcat> i'm going to steal the term black triangle from now on
[20:58] <mrgoodcat> i like it
[20:59] <mrgoodcat> hmmmm
[20:59] <mrgoodcat> .read http://rampantgames.com/blog/?p=7745
[20:59] <bookiebot> http://r.bmark.us/u/d84ecd19fa19c0
[20:59] <greg-g> ohhh, it reads it for me?!
[20:59] <mrgoodcat> now why does bookie.io not show any content for that?
[20:59] <mrgoodcat> https://bookie.io/bmark/readable/d84ecd19fa19c0
[20:59] <mrgoodcat> greg-g: yes
[20:59] <mrgoodcat> i was thinking about making it a sort of read-it-later service backed by bookie.io
[21:00] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: why would bookie.io show "no parsed content" on a site that breadability can parse just fine?
[21:01] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: otp atm not sure
[21:01] <mrgoodcat> kk
[21:01] <mrgoodcat> going into class, i'll pick your brain later
[21:01] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: breadability version diff?
[21:01] <mrgoodcat> read command uses r.bmark.us
[21:01] <greg-g> does r.bmark.us work
[21:01] <mrgoodcat> so i'd figure bookie.io would be the same
[21:01] <mrgoodcat> greg-g: yes. .read uses it
[21:02] <mrgoodcat> time for class
[21:02] <mrgoodcat> talk to you all later
[21:02] <mrgoodcat> cmaloney: thanks for the game recommends. just texted the list to my $gf with the caption "*cough* ahem *cough* christmas"
[21:02] <mrgoodcat> we'll see what happens
[21:04] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: LMK what sorts of games you are interested in. I have a few that I've looked into.
[21:04] <cmaloney> http://boardgamegeek.com/collection/user/craigm
[21:04] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/wCrGpN - craigm | User Collection | BoardGameGeek
[21:04] <cmaloney> yes, I am insane. :)
[22:01] <mrgoodcat> aaaand i'm back