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Kilosmorning inetpro  nuvolari_  Squirm-  and others05:08
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy  05:40
ThatGraemeGuymornings05:42
Kiloshi StonedAlchemist_  07:00
StonedAlchemist_Kilos, how are you?07:00
=== StonedAlchemist_ is now known as StonedAlchemist
Kilosgood ty StonedAlchemist  and you?07:03
Kilosim happy summer has arrived07:04
Kilosmorning superfly  07:04
StonedAlchemistI'm not so happy. It's too warm and we haven't even had a proper winter.07:07
superflyhi Kilos07:11
Kiloseek StonedAlchemist  where are you?07:11
Kilosand what do you call warm?07:12
StonedAlchemistAmanzimtoti. It's 27C today with 80% humidity. It's practically unlivable.07:14
StonedAlchemistAnd it's not even summer yet..07:14
Kilosoh my i loved toti in the days07:14
StonedAlchemistIt's a shithole now.07:15
Kilosyeah ive seen comments and stuff07:15
Kiloswas a lifesaver at warnerdoon07:15
StonedAlchemistReally? That's cool. I don't go to the beach. Every. As a matter of principle.07:16
Kilosused to work in telkom telex department and lifesave at toti in my leave07:16
Kilosbeaches are messed up now07:16
superflyI don't swim in anything colder than bath water07:19
Kiloslol07:19
Kilosin summer the sea in toti gets to 20 degrees c07:20
Kilosvery lekker to cool off after a days work07:20
inetprogood mornings07:29
Kilosmorninine07:33
Kilosai!07:33
Kilosmorning inetpro  too07:33
Kilostyping morn and hitting tab dont work07:34
Kiloshehe07:34
Kilosinetpro  can you update the topic bar please when you have time. meeting next tuesday night07:40
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inetproKilos: done07:55
Kilosty inetpro  07:55
Kilosgood man07:55
Kiloshave some coffee07:56
KilosMaaz  coffee on07:56
* Maaz starts grinding coffee07:56
inetproMaaz: coffee please07:56
Maazinetpro: Sure07:56
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Kiloshi deegee  hows davey07:59
Kiloshi bduk spinza  07:59
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro!08:00
KilosMaaz  danke08:00
MaazBitteschön08:00
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drussellKilos: :oD good thanks! How's you?08:08
Kilosgood too ty08:08
superflyKilos: you'll have to excuse me from the meeting, I have other priorities08:17
Kilosok superfly  08:26
Kilosty for letting us know08:26
Kiloshi Private_User  08:26
Private_Userhi Kilos08:31
StonedAlchemisthttp://slexy.org/view/s20MJFPIlV09:13
Kiloshaha09:23
Kilosbeing a hacker is good as long as morals arent forgotten09:24
StonedAlchemistIt has become a bad word. To use it without being judged one can only use it in enlightened company.09:27
Kilosyip09:32
Kiloshi psytab  09:32
psytabhi Kilos09:32
psytabhow have you been doing?09:33
Kilosgood ty and you?09:33
psytabme too, I just took holidays for the past two weeks09:33
psytabso I am in the Netherlands now09:34
Kilosnice09:34
psytaband I had some interviews at a company here too09:35
psytabfor a job that may take me to Ireland or Germany09:35
Kiloscool09:35
Kilosgood luck09:35
psytabyeah09:35
psytabthanks09:36
Kiloshi somaunn  09:41
somaunnhi Kilos 09:49
somaunnhow are things here ?09:50
Kilosgood thanks and there?09:50
somaunncool09:50
Kilosgood09:50
Kilosyou getting your internet connection faster?09:51
somaunni've been doing some comparison with one of my student regarding mtr09:51
somaunnand we foudn quite good stuffs09:51
Kilosnice09:51
Kilosso share lets hear09:52
somaunnlike the switch -e to display MPLS, which bring another question to me, what is MPLS in real world09:52
KilosMaaz  define MPLS09:52
MaazKilos: MPLS Multi-Protocol Label Switching (RFC 3031)09:52
Kilosyou havent got yourself an ibid bot yet somaunn  09:53
somaunnibid bot ?09:54
somaunnKilos, what's that again ?09:54
Kilosa bot like maaz09:55
Kilosits in the repos09:55
Kilosdont you have meetings 09:55
somaunnnot Kilos 09:55
somaunntell me more about please 09:56
Kilossudo aptitude install ibid09:56
Kilostumbleweed  is ibid upgraded?09:56
Kilosi still use the daily build09:57
somaunnokay, so you have meetings with that bot everyday or what ?10:02
somaunnKilos, i'm back using fedora 20 and guess what ?10:03
Kilosno we have a monthly meeting here and the bot keeps minutes and so on10:03
Kiloswhat?10:03
somaunnokay i see !10:04
Kilosyou can attend on next tuesday night and see how its used10:04
Kilosyou gave up on ubuntu?10:04
Kilossis man10:04
somaunnyeah Kilos, and the day i moved back to Fedora 20 i just realized the gen.xyz disapeared10:08
Kiloslol10:08
somaunnso it's not likely a firefox issue definitely10:08
Kilosoh10:08
somaunnstill i need to understand what it is 10:08
Kiloshaha10:09
Kilosyou got hacked10:09
somaunnmy younger bro uses ubuntu on his laptop with the same ISP than me but i don't think he receives that gen.xyz stuff10:09
Kilossomeone wanted you to read thewir adds10:09
Kilostheir10:09
Kilosno one here has ever had that prob10:10
somaunnKilos, lol10:25
somaunncan't be the gen.xyz happend 5min after my ubuntu 14.04 get installed10:26
Kiloslol10:26
Kilosyou explain it10:26
Kilosmust be some plugin or addon you use that enabled it10:27
somaunnKilos, don't think so10:29
Kilosweird10:29
Kilosi think ive installed more ubuntus than anyone else and never seen it10:30
somaunni've created a firefox addons backup account, and before I move to fedora i did backup everything i used with ubuntu (as addons)10:30
Kilosaha10:30
somaunnKilos, then when my fedora was installed i just synced everything back to my fedora and guess what ? 10:31
Kilosbut i dont like firefox with all its upgrading all the time so i use opera-browser10:31
Kiloswhat?10:31
somaunnKilos, do you really think Opera-Browser is best than Firefox ?10:35
Kilosits faster than firefox and smaller with less upgrading10:35
somaunnokay i see, let me see what answer I get on that10:41
Kilosok10:41
superflyOne of the companies I worked for in the past had an MPLS line11:22
somaunnsuperfly, tell me more about please !11:26
somaunnwhat difference does it makes in the real world11:26
superflysomaunn: basically, IIRC it's an internet connection with an SLA11:26
superflyI don't remember much about it, it was a few years ago, and I wasn't involved with it11:27
somaunnsuperfly, thank you... it's not really a problem if you don't know11:29
somaunnsuperfly, i just wanted to know more as i'm learning to integrate mtr within my principal networkl tools11:30
somaunnKilos, this is for you http://goo.gl/4E9w6J11:30
* Kilos goes to see11:30
psytabhi somaunn11:33
somaunnhi psytab 11:33
psytabhi superfly11:34
superflyhi psytab11:34
Kiloshaha somaunn  ill keep using it11:36
somaunnyeah you right11:36
Kilosi dont believe everything peeps say on the net11:36
Kilosor on land11:37
somaunni've been advised to use chromium for his code more safer than chrome days ago11:37
Kilosand as far as i know its used on cell phones as well11:37
somaunni've just installed chrome now and found it more faster than chromium how can it be ?11:37
Kilosmaybe old ones like my nokia 11:37
Private_Userhmm... I just found this ad on the net11:37
Private_User"I am looking for Linux expert who can troubleshoot my Ubuntu freezing problem.  I have a Lenovo G-400 with a 2GB RAM and it is set up to boot both in Ubuntu 14.04 and Windows 8.1.  I can pay $25.00 to anyone who can solve this issue."11:37
somaunnKilos, on cellphones Opera is the best I agree with you11:38
somaunnPrivate_User, what is the problem of that Brother ?11:38
Private_Usernot sure just saw that ad on a freelancing site11:42
Private_UseroDesk11:42
Private_Usermaybe one of you experts can assist I am not expert not gonna even apply11:42
somaunnPrivate_User, hehehe ...lol11:44
Kilosone needs to chat to him to find when it freezes and what he is doing at the time and what he has removed just before it started freezing11:44
Kilosand whether he has it updated/upgraded11:44
Private_Useryeah but its posted on a freelancing site and you will have to apply for the job and that person may want to interview you11:44
Kiloslol11:45
Kilosmany windows users dont know that linux needs its upgrading11:45
Private_Useryeah but now I lost that ad11:45
Kiloslol it froze11:46
Private_Userah I see why I need to be logged on to view that post11:46
Kilosget to him and tell him to come here11:46
Private_Userlol then he aint gonna give me the $25 dude11:46
Private_Userhe gonna say if I can get it for free why should I pay11:46
Private_Userlol11:47
Kilosyeah but thats part of the ubuntu community thing11:47
somaunnKilos, guess what [again]11:47
Kilosweird he hasnt looked for help on the forums11:48
Kiloswhat somaunn  ?11:48
Private_Useryeah since you mentioned it I was wondering why he did not do that11:48
Private_Userbut I saw now 10 people applied and 3 are being interviewed11:48
Kiloslol11:49
Kilosmost likely an easy fix as well11:49
Private_Userlol yeah11:49
Private_Userhe probably very lazy or he actually has a much more complex issue and after getting people onboard for the $25 start requesting they fix other issues11:50
Kiloslol11:50
Private_Userand only pay $25 or less maybe some will bid a lesser amount11:50
Kilossjoe is $25 worth anything in todays world11:54
Kilosmaybe he is a student11:55
Kilosi like helping students, the get more knowlege quick and can come back and help me11:56
Private_Useryou should register on that site Kilos you could make a quick $25 thats like R25012:00
Private_Userbut not sure what the bank charges will be like so it may almost be like doing it for free12:01
Private_Userhehe12:01
Kiloslol im not clever enough to try unless i have the backing of the guys here12:01
Private_Useryeah you will but the client does not need to know that12:01
Private_Userhehehe12:01
Kilosif i give wrong advice here someone corrects me12:01
Private_Usereish but then if the client finds out then he might really be pissed off12:02
Private_Userok rather not12:02
Kiloslol12:02
Kilosalso helping peeps that are used to windows is a major effort12:03
Kilostooks weeks to help one guy here not to far back12:03
Private_Userbut there maybe other jobs you could do and its all remote work so you work from home what ever time the client needs you so you only apply to the ones that best suit your preference12:03
Kilosi will look into it12:04
Private_Useryeah you right Kilos, I also found that when I work on my Ubuntu machine I seem to be thinking like a windows user so I have to continuously remind myself this is Ubuntu Linux12:05
Kilosthey dont realise that ubuntu doesnt do a complete os install that you can keep using without updating12:06
somaunnyou remember i had issues with flashplugin crashing on my system ?12:13
Kilosyes12:13
Kiloscrashing agin?12:14
somaunnit's was still the same with chromium 12:14
Kiloshaha use opera12:14
somaunnjust few minutes ago i installed chrome on the same machine and tried to load the same website, ... it's just worked straight 12:15
Kilosdont you get popups saying you need to install it12:15
Kilosoh well if it works be happy12:15
somaunnKilos, agree with you12:20
somaunnWhat's next on ubuntu world [talking about 14.10]12:23
Kilosim going to skip 14.10 and just go with lts releases12:24
somaunnOkay, i see ! looking for stability right !12:24
Kilosless upgrading and less os download and installs12:25
Kilosso much less data used12:25
Kilosmost releases are pretty stable by the time they release them12:28
Kilosbut its 1gig of data just to download the iso everytime12:28
somaunnyeah i see12:30
Kiloshi Joe_knock  12:35
Kilosoi12:36
Joe_knockhoegaanit oom Kilos?12:38
KilosJoe_knock  go to #freenode and ask what is causing them to dump you12:39
Kiloslekker dankie en jy?12:39
Joe_knockI was only thrown off once?12:39
Joe_knockgoed oom.12:39
Kilosmooi12:39
Kilosthere must be something running on your system that upsets them12:40
Joe_knockdog-slow adsl :P12:40
Kilosai!12:40
Kilosstill its cheaper than 3g12:40
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somaunnhi Kilos 15:24
somaunnhi superfly 15:24
Kiloshi somaunn  15:25
Kilosthe fly is afk atm15:25
somaunnHow are things here ?15:25
Kiloshehe15:25
Kilosnice and warm15:25
somaunncool 15:26
Kilosnow summer has arrived we start waiting for summer rains15:26
somaunnhave you tried gnome 3.12 ?15:26
Kilosnope when gnome2 was dropped i went to unity and kde15:27
Kilosi loved gnome215:27
somaunnyeah, if you loved gnome 2 then you should try gnome 3.1215:28
Kilosill have a look when i go to unity15:28
somaunncoming back later15:28
Kilosok15:28
charlgood evening all16:02
charlMaaz: coffee on16:02
* Maaz washes some mugs16:02
Kiloshi charl  16:02
charlhi Kilos :)16:02
charlhow are you doing16:03
KilosMaaz  coffee please16:03
MaazKilos: Alrighty16:03
Kilosok ty and you?16:03
charli'm doing well16:03
charlbeen traveling around quite a bit recently16:03
charli heard freenode got hacked16:03
Kilosyeah noticed you been offline16:03
charlyeah16:03
Kilosya we got a message to change passwords16:03
charlah i still need to change mine probably16:04
MaazCoffee's ready for charl and Kilos!16:06
KilosMaaz  thanks man16:06
MaazKilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)16:06
Joe_knockI didn't get that message :-/16:07
KilosJoe_knock  just go to #freenode and ask to change your password and they will email you the link16:08
Kiloseveryone was changing there last night16:09
Joe_knockKilos: So by hacked, all the data was compromised?16:09
Kilosi tried the command but it didnt work16:09
Joe_knockor some of it?16:09
Kilosthey say passwords maybe but to be safe change it16:09
Kilosthey said it was a password seek16:10
charlMaaz: thanks16:20
Maazcharl: Okay :-)16:20
Joe_knockMaaz: Howzit?16:22
Maazgood morning16:22
Joe_knockMaaz: What time is it?16:22
MaazJoe_knock: If you say so16:22
Joe_knock:-/16:22
Joe_knockMaaz: :-)16:22
MaazJoe_knock: *blink*16:22
Kiloshmm...16:23
KilosMaaz  time in south africa16:23
MaazKilos: It is 2014-09-15 18:23:33 SAST16:23
charlMaaz: time in amsterdam16:26
Maazcharl: It is 2014-09-15 18:26:48 CEST16:26
Kilosah same as us16:27
charlcest is same as sast, utc+02:0016:27
Kilosty16:27
charlcet that we spend the other 5 months of the year on is utc+01:0016:27
Kilosaha16:27
Kilosim so happy we dont have to move our country around16:28
Kilostime stays the same16:28
charlit's done automatically by the digital clocks of today16:28
Kiloslol16:28
charlbut if you have manual clocks you have to do it manually of course16:28
charlhi smile 17:43
charlhow are you doing17:43
smilehi ;)17:43
smilefine :)17:43
smilehow are you? :D17:43
Kiloshi smile  17:44
charli'm doing great thanks17:44
charlwe've been having some good weather in this aftersummer17:44
charlit made up for the crap weather we had up to thus far17:44
smileyeah :D17:44
charli've been to utrecht, den haag (scheveningen), gouda and munster in the last week17:46
charlnext up is amsterdam, rotterdam, leiden and maybe still belgium17:46
charlbelgium if time allows17:46
charldo you happen to have any suggestions for good touristy cities ?17:47
charli've been to antwerpen before, i have never been to ghent and the rest though17:47
charli hear brussels isn't much to get excited about (for tourists)17:47
smilecharl: Bruges is not cheap, you can try Gent ;)17:53
charlah yeah i heard good things about gent before17:54
charlvery nice, thanks17:54
charloh yes i've been to luik in the ardenne once17:54
charl*ardennen17:54
smileyeah :d17:55
smilethey have good wafels ;)17:55
charlbeautiful train station but not that much to do i thought17:55
charlah yes in antwerpen i saw wafels everywhere too17:55
charli'm not much for sweet stuff though17:55
charli eat a "gevulde koek" or some "gevulde speculaas" once in a while though17:56
charli like the taste of amandelspijs :P17:56
Kiloshaha samoosas18:00
Kilosschwarma and roti18:00
charli like roti pisang18:02
charlreal malay food18:02
charlalso pisang goreng18:03
Kilosdo they make bunny chow anywhere there18:03
Kilospisang=banana?18:03
charlyes pisang is malay for banana18:04
charlno bunny chow is something that originated in durban i think18:05
charlnever seen it in europe18:05
Kilosah18:05
Kilosi lived on bunny chows for a couple of years18:05
Kilosand up here they make curry for tenderfeeyt18:06
Kilosfeet18:06
Kiloslike stew18:06
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:25
smilenight :)18:53

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