[05:08] <Kilos> morning inetpro  nuvolari_  Squirm-  and others
[05:40] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[05:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[07:00] <Kilos> hi StonedAlchemist_  
[07:00] <StonedAlchemist_> Kilos, how are you?
[07:03] <Kilos> good ty StonedAlchemist  and you?
[07:04] <Kilos> im happy summer has arrived
[07:04] <Kilos> morning superfly  
[07:07] <StonedAlchemist> I'm not so happy. It's too warm and we haven't even had a proper winter.
[07:11] <superfly> hi Kilos
[07:11] <Kilos> eek StonedAlchemist  where are you?
[07:12] <Kilos> and what do you call warm?
[07:14] <StonedAlchemist> Amanzimtoti. It's 27C today with 80% humidity. It's practically unlivable.
[07:14] <StonedAlchemist> And it's not even summer yet..
[07:14] <Kilos> oh my i loved toti in the days
[07:15] <StonedAlchemist> It's a shithole now.
[07:15] <Kilos> yeah ive seen comments and stuff
[07:15] <Kilos> was a lifesaver at warnerdoon
[07:16] <StonedAlchemist> Really? That's cool. I don't go to the beach. Every. As a matter of principle.
[07:16] <Kilos> used to work in telkom telex department and lifesave at toti in my leave
[07:16] <Kilos> beaches are messed up now
[07:19] <superfly> I don't swim in anything colder than bath water
[07:19] <Kilos> lol
[07:20] <Kilos> in summer the sea in toti gets to 20 degrees c
[07:20] <Kilos> very lekker to cool off after a days work
[07:29] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:33] <Kilos> morninine
[07:33] <Kilos> ai!
[07:33] <Kilos> morning inetpro  too
[07:34] <Kilos> typing morn and hitting tab dont work
[07:34] <Kilos> hehe
[07:40] <Kilos> inetpro  can you update the topic bar please when you have time. meeting next tuesday night
[07:55] <inetpro> Kilos: done
[07:55] <Kilos> ty inetpro  
[07:55] <Kilos> good man
[07:56] <Kilos> have some coffee
[07:56] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee on
[07:56]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[07:56] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee please
[07:56] <Maaz> inetpro: Sure
[07:59] <Kilos> hi deegee  hows davey
[07:59] <Kilos> hi bduk spinza  
[08:00] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro!
[08:00] <Kilos> Maaz  danke
[08:00] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[08:08] <drussell> Kilos: :oD good thanks! How's you?
[08:08] <Kilos> good too ty
[08:17] <superfly> Kilos: you'll have to excuse me from the meeting, I have other priorities
[08:26] <Kilos> ok superfly  
[08:26] <Kilos> ty for letting us know
[08:26] <Kilos> hi Private_User  
[08:31] <Private_User> hi Kilos
[09:13] <StonedAlchemist> http://slexy.org/view/s20MJFPIlV
[09:23] <Kilos> haha
[09:24] <Kilos> being a hacker is good as long as morals arent forgotten
[09:27] <StonedAlchemist> It has become a bad word. To use it without being judged one can only use it in enlightened company.
[09:32] <Kilos> yip
[09:32] <Kilos> hi psytab  
[09:32] <psytab> hi Kilos
[09:33] <psytab> how have you been doing?
[09:33] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[09:33] <psytab> me too, I just took holidays for the past two weeks
[09:34] <psytab> so I am in the Netherlands now
[09:34] <Kilos> nice
[09:35] <psytab> and I had some interviews at a company here too
[09:35] <psytab> for a job that may take me to Ireland or Germany
[09:35] <Kilos> cool
[09:35] <Kilos> good luck
[09:35] <psytab> yeah
[09:36] <psytab> thanks
[09:41] <Kilos> hi somaunn  
[09:49] <somaunn> hi Kilos 
[09:50] <somaunn> how are things here ?
[09:50] <Kilos> good thanks and there?
[09:50] <somaunn> cool
[09:50] <Kilos> good
[09:51] <Kilos> you getting your internet connection faster?
[09:51] <somaunn> i've been doing some comparison with one of my student regarding mtr
[09:51] <somaunn> and we foudn quite good stuffs
[09:51] <Kilos> nice
[09:52] <Kilos> so share lets hear
[09:52] <somaunn> like the switch -e to display MPLS, which bring another question to me, what is MPLS in real world
[09:52] <Kilos> Maaz  define MPLS
[09:52] <Maaz> Kilos: MPLS Multi-Protocol Label Switching (RFC 3031)
[09:53] <Kilos> you havent got yourself an ibid bot yet somaunn  
[09:54] <somaunn> ibid bot ?
[09:54] <somaunn> Kilos, what's that again ?
[09:55] <Kilos> a bot like maaz
[09:55] <Kilos> its in the repos
[09:55] <Kilos> dont you have meetings 
[09:55] <somaunn> not Kilos 
[09:56] <somaunn> tell me more about please 
[09:56] <Kilos> sudo aptitude install ibid
[09:56] <Kilos> tumbleweed  is ibid upgraded?
[09:57] <Kilos> i still use the daily build
[10:02] <somaunn> okay, so you have meetings with that bot everyday or what ?
[10:03] <somaunn> Kilos, i'm back using fedora 20 and guess what ?
[10:03] <Kilos> no we have a monthly meeting here and the bot keeps minutes and so on
[10:03] <Kilos> what?
[10:04] <somaunn> okay i see !
[10:04] <Kilos> you can attend on next tuesday night and see how its used
[10:04] <Kilos> you gave up on ubuntu?
[10:04] <Kilos> sis man
[10:08] <somaunn> yeah Kilos, and the day i moved back to Fedora 20 i just realized the gen.xyz disapeared
[10:08] <Kilos> lol
[10:08] <somaunn> so it's not likely a firefox issue definitely
[10:08] <Kilos> oh
[10:08] <somaunn> still i need to understand what it is 
[10:09] <Kilos> haha
[10:09] <Kilos> you got hacked
[10:09] <somaunn> my younger bro uses ubuntu on his laptop with the same ISP than me but i don't think he receives that gen.xyz stuff
[10:09] <Kilos> someone wanted you to read thewir adds
[10:09] <Kilos> their
[10:10] <Kilos> no one here has ever had that prob
[10:25] <somaunn> Kilos, lol
[10:26] <somaunn> can't be the gen.xyz happend 5min after my ubuntu 14.04 get installed
[10:26] <Kilos> lol
[10:26] <Kilos> you explain it
[10:27] <Kilos> must be some plugin or addon you use that enabled it
[10:29] <somaunn> Kilos, don't think so
[10:29] <Kilos> weird
[10:30] <Kilos> i think ive installed more ubuntus than anyone else and never seen it
[10:30] <somaunn> i've created a firefox addons backup account, and before I move to fedora i did backup everything i used with ubuntu (as addons)
[10:30] <Kilos> aha
[10:31] <somaunn> Kilos, then when my fedora was installed i just synced everything back to my fedora and guess what ? 
[10:31] <Kilos> but i dont like firefox with all its upgrading all the time so i use opera-browser
[10:31] <Kilos> what?
[10:35] <somaunn> Kilos, do you really think Opera-Browser is best than Firefox ?
[10:35] <Kilos> its faster than firefox and smaller with less upgrading
[10:41] <somaunn> okay i see, let me see what answer I get on that
[10:41] <Kilos> ok
[11:22] <superfly> One of the companies I worked for in the past had an MPLS line
[11:26] <somaunn> superfly, tell me more about please !
[11:26] <somaunn> what difference does it makes in the real world
[11:26] <superfly> somaunn: basically, IIRC it's an internet connection with an SLA
[11:27] <superfly> I don't remember much about it, it was a few years ago, and I wasn't involved with it
[11:29] <somaunn> superfly, thank you... it's not really a problem if you don't know
[11:30] <somaunn> superfly, i just wanted to know more as i'm learning to integrate mtr within my principal networkl tools
[11:30] <somaunn> Kilos, this is for you http://goo.gl/4E9w6J
[11:30]  * Kilos goes to see
[11:33] <psytab> hi somaunn
[11:33] <somaunn> hi psytab 
[11:34] <psytab> hi superfly
[11:34] <superfly> hi psytab
[11:36] <Kilos> haha somaunn  ill keep using it
[11:36] <somaunn> yeah you right
[11:36] <Kilos> i dont believe everything peeps say on the net
[11:37] <Kilos> or on land
[11:37] <somaunn> i've been advised to use chromium for his code more safer than chrome days ago
[11:37] <Kilos> and as far as i know its used on cell phones as well
[11:37] <somaunn> i've just installed chrome now and found it more faster than chromium how can it be ?
[11:37] <Kilos> maybe old ones like my nokia 
[11:37] <Private_User> hmm... I just found this ad on the net
[11:37] <Private_User> "I am looking for Linux expert who can troubleshoot my Ubuntu freezing problem.  I have a Lenovo G-400 with a 2GB RAM and it is set up to boot both in Ubuntu 14.04 and Windows 8.1.  I can pay $25.00 to anyone who can solve this issue."
[11:38] <somaunn> Kilos, on cellphones Opera is the best I agree with you
[11:38] <somaunn> Private_User, what is the problem of that Brother ?
[11:42] <Private_User> not sure just saw that ad on a freelancing site
[11:42] <Private_User> oDesk
[11:42] <Private_User> maybe one of you experts can assist I am not expert not gonna even apply
[11:44] <somaunn> Private_User, hehehe ...lol
[11:44] <Kilos> one needs to chat to him to find when it freezes and what he is doing at the time and what he has removed just before it started freezing
[11:44] <Kilos> and whether he has it updated/upgraded
[11:44] <Private_User> yeah but its posted on a freelancing site and you will have to apply for the job and that person may want to interview you
[11:45] <Kilos> lol
[11:45] <Kilos> many windows users dont know that linux needs its upgrading
[11:45] <Private_User> yeah but now I lost that ad
[11:46] <Kilos> lol it froze
[11:46] <Private_User> ah I see why I need to be logged on to view that post
[11:46] <Kilos> get to him and tell him to come here
[11:46] <Private_User> lol then he aint gonna give me the $25 dude
[11:46] <Private_User> he gonna say if I can get it for free why should I pay
[11:47] <Private_User> lol
[11:47] <Kilos> yeah but thats part of the ubuntu community thing
[11:47] <somaunn> Kilos, guess what [again]
[11:48] <Kilos> weird he hasnt looked for help on the forums
[11:48] <Kilos> what somaunn  ?
[11:48] <Private_User> yeah since you mentioned it I was wondering why he did not do that
[11:48] <Private_User> but I saw now 10 people applied and 3 are being interviewed
[11:49] <Kilos> lol
[11:49] <Kilos> most likely an easy fix as well
[11:49] <Private_User> lol yeah
[11:50] <Private_User> he probably very lazy or he actually has a much more complex issue and after getting people onboard for the $25 start requesting they fix other issues
[11:50] <Kilos> lol
[11:50] <Private_User> and only pay $25 or less maybe some will bid a lesser amount
[11:54] <Kilos> sjoe is $25 worth anything in todays world
[11:55] <Kilos> maybe he is a student
[11:56] <Kilos> i like helping students, the get more knowlege quick and can come back and help me
[12:00] <Private_User> you should register on that site Kilos you could make a quick $25 thats like R250
[12:01] <Private_User> but not sure what the bank charges will be like so it may almost be like doing it for free
[12:01] <Private_User> hehe
[12:01] <Kilos> lol im not clever enough to try unless i have the backing of the guys here
[12:01] <Private_User> yeah you will but the client does not need to know that
[12:01] <Private_User> hehehe
[12:01] <Kilos> if i give wrong advice here someone corrects me
[12:02] <Private_User> eish but then if the client finds out then he might really be pissed off
[12:02] <Private_User> ok rather not
[12:02] <Kilos> lol
[12:03] <Kilos> also helping peeps that are used to windows is a major effort
[12:03] <Kilos> tooks weeks to help one guy here not to far back
[12:03] <Private_User> but there maybe other jobs you could do and its all remote work so you work from home what ever time the client needs you so you only apply to the ones that best suit your preference
[12:04] <Kilos> i will look into it
[12:05] <Private_User> yeah you right Kilos, I also found that when I work on my Ubuntu machine I seem to be thinking like a windows user so I have to continuously remind myself this is Ubuntu Linux
[12:06] <Kilos> they dont realise that ubuntu doesnt do a complete os install that you can keep using without updating
[12:13] <somaunn> you remember i had issues with flashplugin crashing on my system ?
[12:13] <Kilos> yes
[12:14] <Kilos> crashing agin?
[12:14] <somaunn> it's was still the same with chromium 
[12:14] <Kilos> haha use opera
[12:15] <somaunn> just few minutes ago i installed chrome on the same machine and tried to load the same website, ... it's just worked straight 
[12:15] <Kilos> dont you get popups saying you need to install it
[12:15] <Kilos> oh well if it works be happy
[12:20] <somaunn> Kilos, agree with you
[12:23] <somaunn> What's next on ubuntu world [talking about 14.10]
[12:24] <Kilos> im going to skip 14.10 and just go with lts releases
[12:24] <somaunn> Okay, i see ! looking for stability right !
[12:25] <Kilos> less upgrading and less os download and installs
[12:25] <Kilos> so much less data used
[12:28] <Kilos> most releases are pretty stable by the time they release them
[12:28] <Kilos> but its 1gig of data just to download the iso everytime
[12:30] <somaunn> yeah i see
[12:35] <Kilos> hi Joe_knock  
[12:36] <Kilos> oi
[12:38] <Joe_knock> hoegaanit oom Kilos?
[12:39] <Kilos> Joe_knock  go to #freenode and ask what is causing them to dump you
[12:39] <Kilos> lekker dankie en jy?
[12:39] <Joe_knock> I was only thrown off once?
[12:39] <Joe_knock> goed oom.
[12:39] <Kilos> mooi
[12:40] <Kilos> there must be something running on your system that upsets them
[12:40] <Joe_knock> dog-slow adsl :P
[12:40] <Kilos> ai!
[12:40] <Kilos> still its cheaper than 3g
[15:24] <somaunn> hi Kilos 
[15:24] <somaunn> hi superfly 
[15:25] <Kilos> hi somaunn  
[15:25] <Kilos> the fly is afk atm
[15:25] <somaunn> How are things here ?
[15:25] <Kilos> hehe
[15:25] <Kilos> nice and warm
[15:26] <somaunn> cool 
[15:26] <Kilos> now summer has arrived we start waiting for summer rains
[15:26] <somaunn> have you tried gnome 3.12 ?
[15:27] <Kilos> nope when gnome2 was dropped i went to unity and kde
[15:27] <Kilos> i loved gnome2
[15:28] <somaunn> yeah, if you loved gnome 2 then you should try gnome 3.12
[15:28] <Kilos> ill have a look when i go to unity
[15:28] <somaunn> coming back later
[15:28] <Kilos> ok
[16:02] <charl> good evening all
[16:02] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[16:02]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[16:02] <Kilos> hi charl  
[16:02] <charl> hi Kilos :)
[16:03] <charl> how are you doing
[16:03] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee please
[16:03] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[16:03] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[16:03] <charl> i'm doing well
[16:03] <charl> been traveling around quite a bit recently
[16:03] <charl> i heard freenode got hacked
[16:03] <Kilos> yeah noticed you been offline
[16:03] <charl> yeah
[16:03] <Kilos> ya we got a message to change passwords
[16:04] <charl> ah i still need to change mine probably
[16:06] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[16:06] <Kilos> Maaz  thanks man
[16:06] <Maaz> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)
[16:07] <Joe_knock> I didn't get that message :-/
[16:08] <Kilos> Joe_knock  just go to #freenode and ask to change your password and they will email you the link
[16:09] <Kilos> everyone was changing there last night
[16:09] <Joe_knock> Kilos: So by hacked, all the data was compromised?
[16:09] <Kilos> i tried the command but it didnt work
[16:09] <Joe_knock> or some of it?
[16:09] <Kilos> they say passwords maybe but to be safe change it
[16:10] <Kilos> they said it was a password seek
[16:20] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[16:20] <Maaz> charl: Okay :-)
[16:22] <Joe_knock> Maaz: Howzit?
[16:22] <Maaz> good morning
[16:22] <Joe_knock> Maaz: What time is it?
[16:22] <Maaz> Joe_knock: If you say so
[16:22] <Joe_knock> :-/
[16:22] <Joe_knock> Maaz: :-)
[16:22] <Maaz> Joe_knock: *blink*
[16:23] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:23] <Kilos> Maaz  time in south africa
[16:23] <Maaz> Kilos: It is 2014-09-15 18:23:33 SAST
[16:26] <charl> Maaz: time in amsterdam
[16:26] <Maaz> charl: It is 2014-09-15 18:26:48 CEST
[16:27] <Kilos> ah same as us
[16:27] <charl> cest is same as sast, utc+02:00
[16:27] <Kilos> ty
[16:27] <charl> cet that we spend the other 5 months of the year on is utc+01:00
[16:27] <Kilos> aha
[16:28] <Kilos> im so happy we dont have to move our country around
[16:28] <Kilos> time stays the same
[16:28] <charl> it's done automatically by the digital clocks of today
[16:28] <Kilos> lol
[16:28] <charl> but if you have manual clocks you have to do it manually of course
[17:43] <charl> hi smile 
[17:43] <charl> how are you doing
[17:43] <smile> hi ;)
[17:43] <smile> fine :)
[17:43] <smile> how are you? :D
[17:44] <Kilos> hi smile  
[17:44] <charl> i'm doing great thanks
[17:44] <charl> we've been having some good weather in this aftersummer
[17:44] <charl> it made up for the crap weather we had up to thus far
[17:44] <smile> yeah :D
[17:46] <charl> i've been to utrecht, den haag (scheveningen), gouda and munster in the last week
[17:46] <charl> next up is amsterdam, rotterdam, leiden and maybe still belgium
[17:46] <charl> belgium if time allows
[17:47] <charl> do you happen to have any suggestions for good touristy cities ?
[17:47] <charl> i've been to antwerpen before, i have never been to ghent and the rest though
[17:47] <charl> i hear brussels isn't much to get excited about (for tourists)
[17:53] <smile> charl: Bruges is not cheap, you can try Gent ;)
[17:54] <charl> ah yeah i heard good things about gent before
[17:54] <charl> very nice, thanks
[17:54] <charl> oh yes i've been to luik in the ardenne once
[17:54] <charl> *ardennen
[17:55] <smile> yeah :d
[17:55] <smile> they have good wafels ;)
[17:55] <charl> beautiful train station but not that much to do i thought
[17:55] <charl> ah yes in antwerpen i saw wafels everywhere too
[17:55] <charl> i'm not much for sweet stuff though
[17:56] <charl> i eat a "gevulde koek" or some "gevulde speculaas" once in a while though
[17:56] <charl> i like the taste of amandelspijs :P
[18:00] <Kilos> haha samoosas
[18:00] <Kilos> schwarma and roti
[18:02] <charl> i like roti pisang
[18:02] <charl> real malay food
[18:03] <charl> also pisang goreng
[18:03] <Kilos> do they make bunny chow anywhere there
[18:03] <Kilos> pisang=banana?
[18:04] <charl> yes pisang is malay for banana
[18:05] <charl> no bunny chow is something that originated in durban i think
[18:05] <charl> never seen it in europe
[18:05] <Kilos> ah
[18:05] <Kilos> i lived on bunny chows for a couple of years
[18:06] <Kilos> and up here they make curry for tenderfeeyt
[18:06] <Kilos> feet
[18:06] <Kilos> like stew
[18:25] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:53] <smile> night :)