[00:05] <smart_developer> I was able to get logrotate to rotate my_log.log just fine (at the top of the hour), but it seems that my new (fresh, 0 Bytes) my_log.log isn't being written to.
[00:05] <smart_developer> I'm using rsyslog to direct log output to my_log.log.
[00:05] <smart_developer> Does anyone know what is going wrong here? Thanks.
[00:17] <bennypr0fane> hello, is it normal that my sudo password does give me permission to su?
[00:18] <rww> bennypr0fane: yes
[00:18] <rww> use sudo -u usernamehere commandhere if you need to switch to a non-root user
[00:18] <bennypr0fane> rww: but I'm trying to switch to root
[00:19] <rww> bennypr0fane: then use sudo...
[00:19] <bennypr0fane> it won't cd with sudo
[00:19] <rww> oh.
[00:19] <rww> sudo -i
[00:20] <bennypr0fane> rww. thanks. just curious: what does the -i option do, and why do I need it to cd? are there any other everyday-commands that don't work with sudo?
[00:21] <rww> bennypr0fane: runs a new copy of bash with root privileges
[00:21] <rww> as opposed to sudo cd whatever, which runs cd and then exits (and doesn't affect your current shell)
[00:21] <bennypr0fane> isn't that much the same as becoming root?
[00:22] <bennypr0fane> through su
[00:22] <rww> yes
[00:23] <bennypr0fane> why does my password not work for su? I don't recall ever setting any other one
[00:23] <rww> because it's asking for the root password, and there isn't one
[00:24] <bennypr0fane> rww: haha, I forgot the "not" in my first question. but it seems you read it anyway, yes?
[00:26] <t0ntin> Hi, all! After I did a software update, I was no longer able to use Unity. It is all messed up. The launcher is gone, the menu bar is gone. Cannot access the terminal. I have to log into Gnome. Is there a way to fix it? Google was not much help. I'm a beginner.
[00:26] <ivan```> hey, i have a problem, chroimium freezes after some time of using it, it happens after scrolling tabs with mouse wheel, after freezing if i press alt-f4 it will tell something about closing unexpectadly. It happens on my Ubuntu 14.04 since i updated it from unknown version to version 37, and then to 38-dev
[00:27] <coolstar> hi, I installed Ubuntu 14.04 on my Acer C720 but every so often the screen freezes. Clicking does nothing but the cursor still moves around.
[00:27] <bennypr0fane> t0ntin, do you know if the update was completed?
[00:27] <t0ntin> yes, the update was done. I restarted, and it was all screwed up
[00:28] <bennypr0fane> t0ntin, did it tell you it needed to restart before the update was complete?
[00:29] <t0ntin> I can't remember for sure, but I think it didn't tell me.
[00:29] <bennypr0fane> ivan```,  sounds like too little RAM. how much you got? lots of tabs open?
[00:29] <ivan```> no, bennypr0fane, it happens even with small numbers of tabs
[00:29] <ivan```> i have 4 gb
[00:30] <bennypr0fane> t0ntin, I would do sudo apt-get update, and then sudo apt-get -f install
[00:30] <spearhead> ivan```, sounds like a chromium development issue, maybe try asking in #chromium-support
[00:30] <t0ntin> will that give me the latest updates?
[00:30] <ivan```> spearhead: i did but its dead chanell
[00:31] <spearhead> ivan```, did you try the other chromium channels?
[00:31] <bennypr0fane> rww: if there is no root password, I should get permission by just hitting enter at the prompt, no?
[00:31] <rww> bennypr0fane: no, because the account's locked
[00:31] <rww> !noroot
[00:31] <rww> wrong one
[00:31] <Caramoan> how to put unity launcher at buttom, im using Ubuntu 14.04
[00:32] <rww> !root
[00:32] <rww> Caramoan: you can't
[00:32] <ivan```> spearhead: i will, but i in my previous expereince of being there tells me that no one alive there
[00:32] <Caramoan> rww, ah..ok
[00:32] <bennypr0fane> t0ntin, apt-get -f install checks if you have held back packages and tries to fix missing dependencies
[00:33] <t0ntin> I'll try it. Thanks.
[00:33] <spearhead> ivan```, I'm showing 497 users in the #chromium channel
[00:34] <ivan```> spearhead: yea but last time i asked there no one was answering or just chatting
[00:36] <bennypr0fane> ivan```, do you really need your chromium to be a dev version? bcs otherwise jsut rolling back to 37 might solve yr problem
[00:37] <ivan```> bennypr0fane: it happens in both versions, i updated to dev in hope of fixing
[00:37] <bennypr0fane> coolstar, that is very little information to go. try to find out if a specific action triggers the freeze. If you only just installed, maybe the installation didn't go well.
[00:37] <coolstar> bennypr0fane: I noticed it also happens on my friends' C720's as well. They're also on Ubuntu 14.04
[00:38] <coolstar> it happens mainly when playing flash video
[00:38] <bennypr0fane> then I don't think there's reason to believe it's a development issue. so how many tabs you got open?
[00:38] <coolstar> 3
[00:38] <coolstar> in firefox
[00:39] <coolstar> happens a lot when playing youtube videos
[00:39] <bennypr0fane> coolstar, mainly or only? the tabs question was actually for ivan``` , sorry
[00:39] <coolstar> bennypr0fane: mainly
[00:40] <bennypr0fane> for how long have you been using this install before running into this problem?
[00:40] <bennypr0fane> coolstar
[00:40] <ivan```> bennypr0fane: it happens with any number of tabs, i have lots of unused RAM when this happens
[00:40] <coolstar> bennypr0fane: 5 minutes
[00:40] <coolstar> just reinstalled
[00:40] <d3crypt> hey
[00:40] <d3crypt> whats up
[00:41] <bennypr0fane> coolstar, have you tried proprietary GPU drivers?
[00:41] <bennypr0fane> ivan```, any other browsers installed? they work fine?
[00:41] <coolstar> bennypr0fane: I don't think there are any proprietary GPU drivers for the Haswell Intel graphics
[00:42] <ivan```> bennypr0fane: yes, but they are slow, so i dont want to use them
[00:42] <bennypr0fane> coolstar, maybe that's the problem. have you cehcked?
[00:42] <ivan```> bennypr0fane: and they don't support scrolling tabs with wheel
[00:42] <paulkass> hello
[00:43] <bennypr0fane> coolstar, if not, run Jockey ("additional dirvers" or similar) and see if it gives you a choice to try some other driver
[00:43] <coolstar> bennypr0fane: well here's the hardware in the system: https://ghostbin.com/paste/8xuyn
[00:43] <coolstar> here's the graphics adapter:
[00:43] <coolstar> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0a06] (rev 09)
[00:43] <coolstar> 	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:0a11]
[00:43] <coolstar> 	Kernel driver in use: i915
[00:44] <paulkass> Does anyone know which file in Ubuntu sends the data to the monitor to be displayed?
[00:45] <coolstar> bennypr0fane: I'm not getting an option for a different graphics driver
[00:45] <ivan```> how can i install older version of chromium, eg. 36
[00:46] <bennypr0fane> ivan```, whut? a browser that won't let you use the scrolling wheel? what's that? I can do it in firefox.
[00:47] <netameta> what is tcl 8.5 ?
[00:47] <ivan```> bennypr0fane: i mean switching between tabs with wheel. can't live without it once used to it
[00:48] <ivan```> bennypr0fane: especially when having mouse with fast wheel like g500
[00:49] <Caramoan> is there live stream for ubuntu topic?
[00:50] <bennypr0fane> ivan```, scrolling tabs works fine in ff here. If you think the speed is the problem, maybe tuning it down in system settings could help?
[00:52] <ivan```> bennypr0fane: switching between tabs with whell when you move pointer on the title of one of the tabs and scroll wheel, tab will switch
[00:52] <eedeep> hi there...just upgraded to 14.04 LTS from 12.04 LTS and went fine except now I can't see my clock in the menu bar! http://askubuntu.com/questions/371374/where-did-the-menu-bar-clock-go
[00:53] <eedeep> these suggestions don't seem to work: http://itsfoss.com/fix-date-time-missing-menu-bar-ubuntu-1310/
[00:53] <eedeep> frustrating thing is I can see the time in the menu bar *before* I log in
[00:53] <eedeep> but then when I'm logged in proper, it's not there
[00:53] <eedeep> any ideas?
[00:55] <coolstar> bennypr0fane: also one more thing, the brightness keys on the keyboard seem to actually be the F6 and F7 keys. Is there a way I can get ubuntu to actually change the brightness when they're pressed?
[00:55] <daftykins> eedeep: maybe a unity reset would do you some good
[00:56] <coolstar> (I already mapped the F8, F9 and F10 keys to their respective volume keys in the keyboard settings)
[00:56] <eedeep> daftykins: oh yeah? /me googles how to do that
[00:57] <bennypr0fane> coolstar, everything in due time.. :-D have you solved the freeze issue? It might not even be the graphics driver, but it would be my first guess with this kind of problem
[00:57] <coolstar> bennypr0fane: nope, still haven't yet. I'll try seeing if I can re-create it
[00:58] <coolstar> let me see if the syslog/dmesg would reveal anything (let me set up SSH on it, one sec)
[00:59] <bennypr0fane> coolstar, other than web-searching for linux driver problems with your  specific hardware (especially if you know a guy with the same laptop has the same problem), I'm out of ideas. sorry mate. but dmesg also seems like a good one
[01:00] <eedeep> daftykins: hmm, no luck
[01:00] <squinty> eedeep:  system settings > time and date > date tab > "show a clock in the menu bar"    does that need toggling on?
[01:00] <eedeep> squinty: yep definitely have that set to "on"
[01:00] <daftykins> turn it off then back on?
[01:00] <bennypr0fane> have a good one, everyone
[01:01] <jr_> I've got a CUPS printer server I set up in my house...but I don't know how to print to it. the server is running ubuntu, does anyone know how I can send a file to the server for printing?
[01:07] <eedeep> daftykins: yeah i've tried that
[01:07] <eedeep> classic ubuntu dist upgrade this one
[01:07] <eedeep> clock is probably like the thing I use the most
[01:07] <daftykins> *shrug* i don't believe in upgrades
[01:08] <eedeep> I don't believe in clean re-installs
[01:09] <coolstar> hmm, seems the "graphics issues" were fixed by adding the "tpm_tis.interrupts=0" kernel arg
[01:09] <daftykins> eedeep: give it time, you will ;)
[01:10] <OerHeks> just open systemsettings >  time + date > clock > "show clock in the menu bar"
[01:10] <OerHeks> maybe logout/login, dunno
[01:10] <eedeep> OerHeks: yeah have done both of those
[01:11] <daftykins> confirm in guest account
[01:11] <squinty> eedeep: http://askubuntu.com/questions/458117/missing-date-time-from-top-panel-of-unity-desktop-ubuntu-14-04
[01:12] <squinty> eedeep:  seems there are two possible solutions at the bottom of that page
[01:13] <squinty> supper time here.......
[01:21] <LtDan> I am trying to copy my bookmarks from Ubuntu bookmarks to a USB stick. I would like the saved version to look like the bookmarks set-up in Ubuntu. How do I do this? Ubuntu version 12.04 LTS Firefox version 31.0 Firefox for buntu canonical 1.0. Thank you.
[01:22] <SchrodingersScat> LtDan: would that be in .mozilla ?
[01:23] <LtDan> I m not sure. Not very technically adept  .  .  .
[01:23] <pushnell> Hey folks, I’m trying to set up my first ruby dev environment with Trusty and the documentation tool doesn’t have documentation for the language classes. (`ri Hash` returns “Nothing known about Hash”).  I asked in #ruby but they didn’t know … how can I install this?
[01:24] <SchrodingersScat> LtDan: the part I'm confused about is I don't know what a ubuntu bookmark is, but if it's the firefox bookmarks then there should be a hidden folder in your home directory that stores your firefox settings, bookmarks, etc. that you can potentially copy and have the same profile on multiple machines.
[01:24] <coolstar> I installed Ubuntu 14.04 on my Acer C720, but the brightness keys on the keyboard seem to actually be the F6 and F7 keys. Is there a way I can get ubuntu to actually change the brightness when they're pressed?
[01:25] <LtDan> I browse the net and give the command Bookmark This Page and save it to a folder in bookmarks
[01:25] <samthewildone> !printer
[01:26] <pushnell> I should clarify, that #ruby says that documentation is normally installed as a part of the language build process, so “Ubuntu must have put it somewhere”, but I can’t find any obvious packages which would provide this.
[01:26] <SchrodingersScat> LtDan: ok, either open up your file manager or open up a terminal.  If you use a file manager then turn on viewing of hidden folders and look for .mozilla , if you use terminal then you should be able to cp the folder using cp -r .mozilla /foo/bar/usbstick/
[01:26] <cymrutree> .,.,.
[01:27] <cymrutree> anyone free to help a noob?
[01:27] <cymrutree> anyone?
[01:27] <cymrutree> my audio is jacked up
[01:28] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | cymrutree
[01:28] <LtDan> will try brb
[01:28] <cymrutree> ok
[01:29] <FailFarm> cymrutree: what is wrong with the audio other than being "Jacked up"
[01:29] <cymrutree> im typing the message
[01:29] <SchrodingersScat> !info jackd
[01:31] <cymrutree> Mute is selected and I can't uncheck it; every time I go to Audio Settings I find the sound is reset to almost minimum (even if I changed it); the "Play sound through" list is empty where there should be "headphones", as is with input where should be a microphone
[01:31] <cymrutree> that should do it... is that what you want?
[01:31] <samthewildone> anyone would happen to know how to setup a usb connected to router for linux ?
[01:32] <eedeep> squinty: hey thanks! it worked
[01:32] <eedeep> http://askubuntu.com/questions/458117/missing-date-time-from-top-panel-of-unity-desktop-ubuntu-14-04
[01:32] <eedeep> ie,
[01:32] <eedeep> dconf reset -f /com/canonical/indicator/datetime/
[01:32] <eedeep> pkill -f datetime
[01:32] <TylerE> Is there really no way at all to force maximize/close buttons to the right side of the window in 14.04?
[01:32] <cymrutree> someone saw my question right
[01:33] <cymrutree> !patience
[01:33] <a1fa> hey, what is "service networking restart" equivalent in 14.04?
[01:33] <cymrutree> Mute is selected and I can't uncheck it; every time I go to Audio Settings I find the sound is reset to almost minimum (even if I changed it); the "Play sound through" list is empty where there should be "headphones", as is with input where should be a microphone
[01:34] <cymrutree> I'm not gonna spam just posting it a second time
[01:34] <cymrutree> agh
[01:34] <usr13> alsamixer
[01:35] <FailFarm> cymrutree: do you know what audio back end you are using
[01:35] <pushnell> Hey folks, I’m on Trusty with updated apt-cache and trying to set up my first ruby environment.  I have the ‘ruby1.9.1’ package installed, but the ruby documentation tool ‘ri’ doesn’t have documentation for the language classes.  (`ri Hash` returns “Nothing known about Hash”).  #ruby says that language docs are normally installed as a part of the build process, so “Ubuntu must have put it somewhere”.  I
[01:35] <pushnell> haven’t found a package which seems to provide this…  any suggestions?
[01:35] <quatrox> samthewildone: can you be more specific?
[01:35] <cymrutree_> hi
[01:35] <samthewildone> I plugged my printer to my router
[01:35] <cymrutree> oh wow
[01:35] <samthewildone> how do I add that printer to my computer now ?
[01:36] <cymrutree_> webchat.freenode.net is the same as
[01:36] <cymrutree> mibbit
[01:36] <cymrutree> huehuehuehuehue.
[01:36] <usr13> "that printer"?
[01:36] <usr13> cymrutree: firefox localhost:631
[01:36] <cymrutree> so I guess nobody knows anything about sound? is it really that complicated?
[01:36] <quatrox> samthewildone: I do not know any simple answer.  It depends on your printer and your router
[01:36] <usr13> samthewildone: firefox localhost:631
[01:37] <LtDan> Cannot find file manager and I do not know how to open a terminal . . . .
[01:37] <samthewildone> usr13, I already went there
[01:37] <FailFarm> cymrutree: i asked you what audio backend you were using but you have yet to respond
[01:37] <usr13> quatrox: samthewildone Talking about a network printer?
[01:37] <cymrutree> didn't see that
[01:37] <OldSkoool> I just upgraded to 14.04. Before I was running 12.10. Now I am getting grub errors. I found a description of the bug report, but it is too advanced for me. Is there an easier way? Here's the link I found: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1289977
[01:37] <samthewildone> problem is when I try to find the printer it does not come up in the query.
[01:37] <cymrutree> what is that
[01:37] <cymrutree> I don't know, to answer the original question
[01:37] <quatrox> usr13: he wrote that he connected his USB printer to his router
[01:38] <cymrutree> FailFarm: so can I look it up or something?
[01:38] <samthewildone> usr13, Yes, I assume it's networked because its connected to the WiFi router.
[01:39] <cymrutree> I didn't change it from the default if that helps any
[01:39] <cymrutree> except I put in some stupid code I found on a help forum that probably caused the problem
[01:39] <cymrutree> let me find it
[01:39] <usr13> samthewildone: So, what IP address did you assign to it?
[01:39] <quatrox> samthewildone: I would assume you need driver support in your router as well
[01:39] <samthewildone> usr13, Didn't assign anything to it. Matter of fact we just reset the router to defaults.
[01:39] <FailFarm> cymrutree: i bet you have pulse audio. I think you can uninstall or just disable pulse audio reboot and then see if it resolved your issue
[01:40] <cymrutree> i did this
[01:40] <cymrutree> Turn PulseAudio autospawn off, normally: $ echo "autospawn = no" > ~/.pulse/client.conf Kill PulseAudio: $ killall pulseaudio Shut down and restart Skype
[01:40] <usr13> samthewildone: Go into the router's config and set it up.
[01:40] <samthewildone> usr13, right now the administrator is doing the setup via windows.
[01:41] <cymrutree> is that how you do that?
[01:41] <usr13> samthewildone: What?
[01:41] <usr13> samthewildone: So, who is the administrator?
[01:42] <quatrox> cymrutree: skype has an option for automatic adjusting volume
[01:42] <samthewildone> usr13, yes, my old man is the acting administrator.
[01:42] <amyxu> ##urw
[01:42] <usr13> samthewildone: So tell him to set it up and give you the IP address.
[01:42] <cymrutree> quatrox so what do I do
[01:42] <quatrox> cymrutree: try to disable that
[01:42] <amyxu> # urw
[01:42] <quatrox> then restart skype
[01:43] <Bashing-om> OldSkoool: Though confusing, pretty straight forward. post #10 is the surer solution method. -> sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc <-; we can step throgh that one.
[01:43] <cymrutree> I don't see the option
[01:44] <usr13> samthewildone: Are you seeing anything that looks like that printer at localhost:631/admin ?
[01:44] <quatrox> cymrutree: it is there, but I cannot help you locate it, as I do not use skype anymore
[01:44] <cymrutree> yeah lemme look it up
[01:44] <OldSkoool> Bashing-om: I can try that. I have the live USB running already. So type that command into a terminal and cross my fingers? Is that right?
[01:45] <Bashing-om> OldSkoool: No, a bit more complex than just that. We have to SHange Root into the install to make the commannd effective to the install.
[01:46] <Bashing-om> CHange*
[01:47] <cymrutree> somewhere it says you can't disable it
[01:47] <cymrutree> without editing the files or something
[01:47] <cymrutree> and I can't find the files just the application...
[01:47] <cymrutree> does skype even keep files?
[01:47] <Bashing-om> OldSkoool: IF you are not comforable with a CHange Root routine, we can try a simpler method to gain access to the installed system and from there ( if we can gain entry) perform the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" routine.
[01:48] <quatrox> cymrutree: I believe it is a menu in skype called options or preference
[01:48]  * RedDeath Back
[01:48] <OldSkoool> Bashing-om: I don't mind doing it this way if you don't mind helping me. :)
[01:48] <OldSkoool> K. I did that. A window came up asking for a linux command line. Says it's allowed to be empty (it is empty)
[01:49] <samthewildone> usr13, http://www.hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
[01:49] <usr13> OldSkoool: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[01:49] <quatrox> cymrutree: in there, you find a setting with a description similar to "allow skype to automatically adjust "...
[01:49] <samthewildone> usr13, looks promising.
[01:49] <quatrox> cymrutree: disable that and restart skype
[01:50] <Bashing-om> OldSkoool: Are you presently in the CVHange Root .. NOT in the liveDVD  ? .. IF CHange Rooted, then yes, allow to be empty is OK .
[01:50] <cymrutree> not under General
[01:50] <cymrutree> not under Advanced
[01:50] <cymrutree> not under Sound Settings
[01:50] <cymrutree> i checked bout everywhere else too
[01:51] <quatrox> cymrutree: it should be under Sound
[01:51] <OldSkoool> Bashing-om: It's a small purple window that popped up when I typed sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc It says "package configuration" at the top. The "configuring grub-pc" then a bunch of words and a place to type a Linux command line (that is empty currently). So just hit enter with no command?
[01:51] <cymrutree> sound devices that is
[01:51] <cymrutree> ok found it
[01:52] <cymrutree> nothing different
[01:53] <cymrutree> i checked if that box was still checked after restarting skype and it was
[01:53] <quatrox> cymrutree: did you restart skype?
[01:53] <Bashing-om> OldSkoool: Well, IF you have not mounted the installed root partition to work on the installed grub, you will have NO effect. I ask again, where are you ?
[01:53] <cymrutree> yeah, i quit and logged back in
[01:53] <cymrutree> somewhere I found how to go to alsa mixer
[01:53] <OldSkoool> Bashing-om: Sorry. Let me reread all you wrote. Maybe I missed something.
[01:54] <cymrutree> it just shows one 00 box with no bar over it, not sure what that means but the website doesn't say what to do with it
[01:54] <quatrox> cymrutree: if skype is adjusting your mixer settings automatically, there is not much you can do.  You need to make sure skype stops doing that
[01:54] <cymrutree> maybe it's not skype
[01:54] <cymrutree> idk
[01:55] <samthewildone> brb
[01:55] <cymrutree> what about alsa, all it says under default soundcard is one track called "S/PDIF"
[01:55] <cymrutree> what the... i'm not even using S/PDIF
[01:55] <Bashing-om> OldSkoool: Wee must mount the installed root file system to work on the installed grub, we can try an easier way to mount the root file system, ot take the lomg sure way .. It does not mater to me which way we go . I Think we will arrive at a solution either way.
[01:56] <Bashing-om> lomb/long*
[01:56] <quatrox> cymrutree: sound card controls are often misnamed
[01:56] <cymrutree> ok
[01:57] <Bashing-om> !changeroot
[01:57] <HikaruBG> guys
[01:57] <OldSkoool> Bashing-om: OK I read about chroot a minute ago. No I did not do that yet. Ubuntu is installed on a drive with a bunch of partitions (home, boot, cache, something else I don't remember) I can see all them file systems but none of them are mounted.
[01:57] <HikaruBG> is there a blueray player for Ubuntu?
[01:57] <cymrutree> so if skype is totally shut off it should still be able to mess with the volume settings?
[01:57] <quatrox> cymrutree: Sound Blaster Audigy had 1000 different hardware editions and there were no way to detect which one in software.  Therefore, do not always trust the names on the ALSA controls
[01:57] <Bashing-om> !change root
[01:57] <quatrox> cymrutree: no
[01:57] <cymrutree> ok
[01:58] <cymrutree> well there's the same problem when skype is off
[01:58] <sjohnson> why doesn't apt-get remove take out "service --status-all" entries?
[01:58] <HikaruBG> Guys - anyone on the blueray player for ubuntu? is there one?
[01:59] <quatrox> cymrutree: then I have no idea
[01:59] <LtDan> Still confused. Thank you anyway.
[01:59] <cymrutree> all right well thanks
[01:59] <sjohnson> tangibly related, i can't get "service ircd-ratbox <anything>" to return anything.  it literally just does nothing.
[01:59] <cymrutree> somewhere else says I should try reinstalling alsa and pulse
[02:00] <pushnell> Any Ruby devs in the house?  I’m on Trusty with updated apt-cache and trying to set up my first ruby environment.  I have the ‘ruby1.9.1’ package installed, but 'ri' doesn’t have documentation for the language classes.  (`ri Hash` returns "Nothing known about Hash").  #ruby says that language docs are normally installed as a part of the build process, so “Ubuntu must have put it somewhere”.  I haven’t found a package
[02:00] <pushnell> yet which seems to provide this…  any suggestions?
[02:01] <quatrox> LtDan: still trying to copy your bookmarks?
[02:01] <cymrutree> is that viable?
[02:01] <cymrutree> to reinstall alsa and pulse?
[02:01] <samthewildone> usr13, okay fail
[02:01] <samthewildone> usr13, So I have to assign IP to printer through router.
[02:01] <Bashing-om> OldSkoool: Let's try the less confusing method . We must know the root partition -> sudo fdisk -lu | pastebin <- . Then we mount that root partiton for access from the liveDVD, sound good to you ?
[02:02] <OldSkoool> Bashing-om: OK let's try it the easier way. I just want to be up and running so I can do my work. I am going to format everything in a month anyways and rejigger some stuff.
[02:02] <quatrox> cymrutree: I don't know
[02:02] <OldSkoool> Bashing-om: Yes. One moment please.
[02:02] <Bashing-om> OldSkoool: Sure, no problem .. awaiting the url from the 'fdisk' command.
[02:03] <samthewildone> usr13, I'm in the router but, I don't see any printer stuff
[02:04] <quatrox> samthewildone: try to google the specs for your router and check if it supports printers
[02:05] <t0ntin> Hi, all! After I did a software update, I was no longer able to use Unity. It is all messed up. The launcher is gone, the menu bar is gone. Cannot access the terminal. I have to log into Gnome. Is there a way to fix it? Google was not much help. I'm a beginner.
[02:05] <quatrox> t0ntin: try to create a new user and see if that helps
[02:06] <t0ntin> quatrox, I'll try it. Thanks.
[02:09] <Bashing-om> OldSkoool: Are you un-certain, confused at this point ? What can I do to help ?
[02:10] <OldSchool> Bashing-om: No I was logging into IRC from the other computer so I can cut and paste: http://pastebin.com/mwdNra5W
[02:10] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: ckecking http://pastebin.com/mwdNra5W.
[02:12] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: pastebin is covered up at this time, give it a few to settle down .. Will try again in a few tics.
[02:12] <OldSchool> Bashing-om: thank you. I am standing by.
[02:13] <HikaruBG> hey guys - any way how to play Bluray movies in Ubuntu?
[02:13] <HikaruBG> my Laptop has a bluray player I would like to use it
[02:15] <html> HikaruBG,  use vlc player abd the restricted extras package?
[02:15] <t0ntin> It worked. Does this mean I won't be able to use the other account?
[02:15] <quatrox> HikaruBG: Did you try to google it?
[02:15] <quatrox> HikaruBG: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=blueray+ubuntu+howto
[02:16] <quatrox> t0ntin: it means your old account has some settings which it not compatible
[02:16] <HikaruBG> quatrox, yes - I am working on that now, but what google says didn;t work for me ....
[02:16] <t0ntin> quatrox, any ideas to try and fix it?
[02:17] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: "The util fdisk doesn't support GPT." Different tool here required -> sudo parted -l | pastebinit <-. See if that will give us enough info .
[02:17] <quatrox> t0ntin: open a shell and switch user: sudo -u OLD_USER_NAME -i
[02:17] <HikaruBG> quatrox, got it
[02:17] <HikaruBG> :)
[02:18] <HikaruBG> i was missing a aasc key file
[02:18] <HikaruBG> ;)
[02:18] <quatrox> HikaruBG: aha
[02:18] <HikaruBG> haha - I have bluray on my Ubuntu!!! :D :D :D
[02:18] <HikaruBG> I am so happy now!
[02:18] <quatrox> nice
[02:18] <OldSchool> that's pretty cool you can pipe output right to pastebin. I never knew that.
[02:18] <t0ntin> quatrox, ok
[02:19] <quatrox> t0ntin: then make a new directory: mkdir oldstuff
[02:19] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: It is always a process of learning, we will never know it all about everything .
[02:19] <t0ntin> quatrox, done
[02:20] <quatrox> t0ntin: move all configs to that: mv .* oldstuff
[02:20] <html> HikaruBG,  did you resolve your issue>
[02:20] <quatrox> t0ntin: then move back what you want to keep: mv oldstuff/.mozilla .
[02:21] <OldSchool> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/75vDdqDQ
[02:21] <t0ntin> quatrox, do I type exactly what you typed for that last one?
[02:21] <quatrox> yes
[02:21] <amyxu> ##urw
[02:21] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: look'n at http://pastebin.com/75vDdqDQ .
[02:21] <t0ntin> ok
[02:21] <quatrox> t0ntin: then log out and log in again as the old user
[02:23] <HikaruBG> yes, html I have it resolved! Thanks!
[02:23] <OldSchool> Bashing-om: This used to be a Windows 7 Dual boot computer but I haven't used Windows in months, so I unplugged the disks that Windows ever touched to keep things simple and help with troubleshooting. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with these GPT partition tables.
[02:24] <OldSchool> Like maybe Windows put it on there at some point or something.
[02:24] <html> HikaruBG,  how did you resovle your issue?
[02:24] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: A bit concerned with that out put. Let's use a more indepth tool -> sudo apt-get install gdisk , sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda | pastebinit <- .
[02:24] <OldSchool> html: <HikaruBG> i was missing a aasc key file
[02:25] <t0ntin> quatrox, it says this: missing destination file operand after ‘oldstuff/.mozilla.
[02:25] <html> OldSchool,  in not sure what that was
[02:25] <html> OldSchool,  is*
[02:26] <quatrox> t0ntin: "mv oldstuff/.mozilla  ."
[02:26] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: GPT is the better partitioing scheme IF it is consistent .
[02:26] <quatrox> the space before the final period is important
[02:26] <quatrox> t0ntin: a period (.) alone means current directory
[02:26] <OldSchool> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8347311/
[02:27] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: lookin at http://paste.ubuntu.com/8347311/ .
[02:27] <OldSchool> html: That is how he fixed his bluray, I think. I saw you ask him.
[02:27] <t0ntin> quatrox, ok, I see.
[02:29] <quatrox> t0ntin: if you use thunderbird, skype, pidgin or any other program, you might want to move their settings too.
[02:29] <quatrox> t0ntin: feel free to ask
[02:29] <html> OldSchool,  yes i did.
[02:29] <html> OldSchool,  i was goning to ask you to install vlc and other things
[02:29] <html> OldSchool,  here is the command if you want it sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install vlc ubuntu-restricted-extras ubuntu-restricted-addons -y
[02:30] <samthewildone> When encrypting my desktop will it be shown on the network ?
[02:30] <OldSchool> html: I was not the one with blu ray problems. It wasthe other guy. He said his blu ray is running. I was just trying to help cuz you asked how he fixed it and he didn't answer so I copy/pasted his answer for you. Not sure if that fixes your curiosity or not, though.
[02:31] <t0ntin> yeah, I have a few programs I use: skype, chromium, thunderbird. Do I use the same command for those?
[02:31] <html> OldSchool,  XD
[02:31] <quatrox> samthewildone: encryptions are unrelated to network shares
[02:31] <OldSchool> html: I am lucky if I can get my grubs to work. Bashing-om is helping me with that.
[02:31] <quatrox> t0ntin: mv oldstuff/.Skype .
[02:31] <html> OldSchool,  i still have problems with grub...
[02:32] <samthewildone> If it its unrelated then how come my computer out of the whole house is not showing up on my router page ?
[02:32] <samthewildone> Everything else shows... all my other devices.
[02:32] <samthewildone> Except my computer ?
[02:32] <quatrox> t0ntin: mv oldstuff/.thunderbird .
[02:33] <quatrox> t0ntin: I am not sure where chromium is stored.  You might see it if you do: ls -a oldstuff/
[02:33] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: This had now gotten above my skill level: "GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.8 >> MBR: MBR only >> Found invalid GPT and valid MBR;" Those with the experience of fixing the partition table are going to be required to baol us out of this one, I think !
[02:34] <t0ntin> quatrox, I'm getting this: cannot stat ‘oldstuff/.thunderbird’: No such file or directory
[02:34] <Bashing-om> baol/bail*
[02:34] <samthewildone> quatrox, so what then ?
[02:34] <quatrox> t0ntin: then you didn't use it on that account
[02:35] <OldSchool> Bashing-om: can I just try reinstalling on top of everything and hoping that it doesn't nuke my programs and files?
[02:35] <quatrox> samthewildone: not sure
[02:35] <t0ntin> quatrox,  I had it on the one that stopped working
[02:35] <OldSchool> That is what started this mess in the first place, but that was before I unplugged the Windows harddrives.
[02:36] <quatrox> t0ntin: strange.  Maybe it saved it preferences under .mozilla or something
[02:37] <quatrox> t0ntin: are you sure you spelled it correctly?
[02:37] <t0ntin> yes, I tried skype and thunderbird
[02:37] <Tex_Nick> samthewildone: your router dhcp list should show your workstation unless you have it assigned a static ip other that your router
[02:37] <quatrox> t0ntin: do you see thunderbird if you type: ls -a oldstuff
[02:38] <t0ntin> quatrox, I don't
[02:38] <quatrox> t0ntin: then I don't know
[02:38] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: This situation is fixable, just beyond what I have done - I have no direct experience with GPT, and you really would rather have the GPT partitioning.
[02:39] <quatrox> t0ntin: anyway, you can always set it up again:)
[02:39] <t0ntin> quatrox, set what up?
[02:39] <quatrox> t0ntin: e-mail account
[02:39] <quatrox> in thunderbird
[02:39] <t0ntin> quatrox, Oh, yes, that's not a problem
[02:40] <OldSchool> Bashing-om: Well...before I tried to upgrade, I copied my home directory and made a list of all software installed. Do you think I should just format / repartition everything instead of beating my head into the wall? It sounds like there is no good answer. BTW, thank you for all your help regardless.
[02:40] <quatrox> t0ntin: are you logged in as the old user now?
[02:40] <t0ntin> quatrox, no, I was just going to ask if I should do that
[02:40] <quatrox> yes
[02:40] <html> OldSchool,  whats going on?
[02:40] <t0ntin> ok, brb
[02:41] <OldSchool> html: grub problems, partition tables messed up I guess. http://pastebin.com/75vDdqDQ
[02:42] <Bashing-om> OldSchool: Upfront, will be much faster to (RE-)install and copy your data back. But this situation is fixable, and the experience will be a good thing in the long term.
[02:42] <OldSchool> html: I meant to paste this one (more recent) http://paste.ubuntu.com/8347311/
[02:42] <html> OldSchool,  please do a full clone/backup of the data/hdd you have.
[02:42] <ragin> hi all
[02:43] <OldSchool> html: Is that like the doctor saying, "You better make sure your affairs are in order?"
[02:43] <_unreal_> heh
[02:43] <_unreal_> not far off
[02:44] <html> OldSchool,  its good practice and encouraged my the whole computer industry .
[02:45] <html> OldSchool,  stating the base rules.
[02:45] <ragin> can anybody explain me something weird I saw? I tried to ping linux.com to see if my wifi was on and I got a strange line
[02:45] <OldSchool> html: Yes. I backed up all my stuff to another drive yesterday before I started messing with this. Eventually I'm going to put a Raspberry Pi on my LAN and have it sync continuously but that ain't set up yet.
[02:45] <quatrox> ragin: what did you get?
[02:46] <html> OldSchool,  if you want to say that to give you comfort then yeah.
[02:46] <ragin> quatrox PING www.linux.com (140.211.167.50) 56(84) bytes of data.
[02:46] <ragin> From corv-car1-gw.nero.net (207.98.64.39) icmp_seq=1 Packet filtered
[02:46] <quatrox> same here
[02:46] <html> OldSchool,  so what is you goal?
[02:47] <OldSchool> html: right now I want a working computer.
[02:47] <html> ok, what is going on. im working blind here
[02:47] <quatrox> ragin: linux.com resolves to an IP address.  The IP address reverse resolves to a different hostname because there are several hostnames associated with that IP address
[02:47] <Bashing-om> html: OldSchool We need to install grub properly .
[02:47] <OldSchool> html: I think these problems happened because I had it set up all screwy with dual booting Windows 7 on a fake RAID setup. It messes with the grubs.
[02:47] <html> ohh...
[02:47] <quatrox> ragin: package filtered means the firewall does not allow ICMP requests
[02:48] <OldSchool> But I give up on dual boot. I barely use Windows anyways.
[02:48] <OldSchool> I can put Windows in a virtual machine if I really need it for something.
[02:48] <quatrox> s/package/packet/
[02:48] <ragin> quatrox so it's nothing to worry about? It's the first time I see this , that's why I was worried
[02:48] <quatrox> ragin: everything is OK
[02:49] <ragin> quatrox thanks alot!
[02:49] <html> OldSchool,  you are trying to do raid and a dual boot?  trying to bench press while  you eat?
[02:49] <ragin> bye guys!
[02:50] <html> OldSchool,  oh my.. that is ... * sigh  lets give it a look
[02:50] <html> bye ragin
[02:50] <OldSchool> html: X-) It worked for a few years. But it was a royal PITA to set up. I don't want to put myself through that again.
[02:50] <quatrox> ragin: but it is strange that dig ns linux.com does not show corv-carl-gw.nero.net
[02:50] <ragin> quatrox: nero.net is univerity of oregon
[02:50] <html> OldSchool,  can you boot into either side ?
[02:50] <quatrox> ragin: aha
[02:51] <html> OldSchool,  what is going on?
[02:51] <html> OldSchool,  what is going on when you boot?
[02:51] <OldSchool> html: If I only leave the windows disks plugged in, then yes it goes to Windows no problem. As soon as I plug in the HDD that has my linux stuff I get grub problems.
[02:51] <html> OldSchool,  ahh... i see
[02:51] <t0ntin> quatrox, it's still not working
[02:52] <html> old can you do a paste bin write  up on your problem in detail. so we can keep this complexe matter easy-going
[02:53] <utopian> fuckin cops at my door.... all lights off i aint home.. nockin like fuck
[02:53] <html> utopian, O.o
[02:53] <quatrox> t0ntin: that is very strange.  I do not know what it could be the reason.  Maybe some user data is stored outside the home directory in ubuntu.  Try to ask somebody else for help.
[02:53] <OldSchool> html: honestly I am out of patience with this. I will work with it tomorrow and just reformat/repartition the linux drive
[02:53] <netameta> anyone familiar with tcl 8.5 ?
[02:54] <t0ntin> quatrox, thanks.
[02:54] <quatrox> t0ntin: and remember to tell them what you did so far:)
[02:54] <html> OldSchool,  well i have an idea what may be your iusse.
[02:55] <OldSchool> html: Wait...I just found the bug report that describes the symptoms. Bug #1289977
[02:55] <quatrox> utopian: are you in the US?
[02:56] <OldSchool> html: Bashing-om was helping me based on that webpage, then said my partitions are screwed, it's above his paygrade.
[02:58] <quatrox> well, I am going offline.  See you again
[02:59] <eeee> OldSchool: did you write it to disk?
[03:00] <OldSchool> eeee: did I write what to disk?
[03:01] <eeee> you had a link to a paste earlier
[03:01] <eeee> looked like you used gdisk,
[03:02] <eeee> did you write the partition table to disk? ( w , then enter )
[03:02] <PCworker> hello all, I am trying to remember how-to update the "clamTK" using the terminal. Who can tell me the proper command to use to do that?
[03:03] <OldSchool> eeee: You mean this one? http://pastebin.com/75vDdqDQ I control-C it because I didn't know what to do
[03:03] <SchrodingersScat> PCworker: might be freshclam
[03:03] <PCworker> that's right, thanks.
[03:03] <TylerE> How can I make audio stay active all the time? I am outputing sound via DIgital Out and Ubuntu keeps deactivating the connection when it's silent for a while - the problem is it can take as long as 5 seconds for my stereo receiver to start playing audio again.
[03:03] <TylerE> So if it's something like an alert sound I *never hear it*
[03:04] <Kristie23>  You can find funny videos here. http://tinyurl.com/ozfvxy3
[03:05] <SchrodingersScat> very doubtful, also this is ubuntu support not your spam board
[03:05] <eeee> OldSchool: so you had a mbr ? and you used gdisk? and it converted it to gpt?
[03:05] <OldSchool> eeee: I have no idea. html or Bashing-om may be able to answer that question.
[03:06] <OldSchool> eeee: When it asked if it's a GPT partition table, I just hit control C because I got scared.
[03:06] <eeee> i mean the earlier paste
[03:06] <gasull> does dpkg automatically install dependencies?
[03:06] <eeee> or later paste, i dont know
[03:07] <eeee> when you used gdisk
[03:07] <OldSchool> eeee: http://pastebin.com/mwdNra5W http://paste.ubuntu.com/8347311/ those are all my pastes.
[03:07] <OldSchool> plus the other one I jst repasted.
[03:07] <eeee> yeah, i mean the 2nd one
[03:08] <darius93> how do i disable vsync with the opensource radeon drivers?
[03:08] <Tex_Nick> Kristie23 : that's NOT funny ... you need to NOT make post's like that ... this is a family oriented channel !!!
[03:08] <OldSchool> eeee: I am sorry I do not understand the question.
[03:09] <Bashing-om> eeee: OldSchool // To this time all "we" have done is look, and "parted -l" says the partition table is hosed .
[03:09] <OldSchool> eeee: It says: "Found invalid GPT and valid MBR; converting MBR to GPT format in memory. " So I guess it just converted it in RAM but did'nt write to disk
[03:16] <html> OldSchool,  what is the raid set up like?
[03:17] <OldSchool> html: At this point, all RAID disks are unplugged. It used to be 1 HDD for Windows 7 and a motherboard-controlled RAID sort of thing thta used a solid state drive as a Windows cache disk.
[03:18] <OldSchool> html: So any of the pastes that I put up I did AFTER I unplugged the RAID disks.
[03:18] <OldSchool> It was some fancy motherboard chipset that Intel had out a few years ago. More trouble than it's worth, IMO.
[03:19] <html> OldSchool,  ok well i need you to do a full write up on this so we are not using more time then need by asking faq and rehased questions. something we can use as a great starting point
[03:20] <OldSchool> I can do that I guess before just saying screw it and nuking everything. Where should I post it?
[03:20] <html> OldSchool,  that means what your raid setup?  what kind is it ? what os did you install first then the next one?
[03:21] <TylerE> I swear PulseAudio is the mode confusing blasted thing ever. How hard is to downmix everything to 44.1/16, output via a specified device, AND DON"T TRY TO DO ANYTHING FANCY BECAUSE PULSEAUDIO IS LOBOTOMIZED AND CLUELESS
[03:21] <eeee> OldSchool: ok, just read the stuff you posted earlier, i had just seen the link you pasted
[03:21] <html> OldSchool,  pastebin?  [you can edit the old ones
[03:21] <TylerE> god this crap was so much easier 15 years ago with OSS
[03:21] <OldSchool> Well that's the thing. I set it up years ago and have been running Ubuntu 12.10 then I tried to update it last night and the trouble began. So I don't remember a lot of things from 3 years ago.
[03:23] <html> OldSchool,  well the easiest and most reckless way is to wipe the linux side and do a fresh install to 14.04
[03:23] <html> TylerE,  what do yo mean?
[03:23] <Bashing-om> eeee: OldSchool //Nuke the raid meta data ?? and try and fix the partition table ??
[03:24] <OldSchool> html: I just verified that the files in my home directory are safe, so I don't have a problem with that. Can I do anything cool with a 64 GB solid state disk since I don't need it for a Windows cache drive anymore?
[03:24] <TylerE> html: I want to output 44.1/16 via my SP-DIF. I don't want Pulse to try to idle the connection (because that causes my receiver to make an annoying click) I don't want pule to muck with volume I don't want pulse to redirect anything
[03:24] <OldSchool> like maybe put the /boot partition on it or something?
[03:26] <html> TylerE,  oh.. well hang around for a bit someone may know what to do. during that time try to google it..
[03:26] <sydney> OldSchool: Yes,you could
[03:27] <OldSchool> what is the best way to get max performance using the SSD? use it as /boot? or is there a better idea?
[03:27] <sydney> OldSchool: us it as /
[03:27] <html> OldSchool,  well using a ssd as the boot drive would have many positives, then the raid and handle your data, which is meant to do.
[03:28] <OldSchool> html: I give up on RAID. from what I hear, Ubuntu hates motherboard-based RAID. Last time, people on IRC made fun of me and said my RAID was fake.
[03:28] <html> OldSchool,  you have to do things[configure] a bit differently when you install something/store data
[03:28] <OldSchool> I wound up segregating my dual-boot so only Windows 7 used the raid
[03:29] <html> OldSchool, huh? fake.. its doable...
[03:29] <OldSchool> I had a bunch of people say the same thing, then they eventually all gave up.
[03:30] <OldSchool> they were hooking into my computer with X11VNC and all sorts of stuff
[03:30] <OldSchool> So I don't want to put myself through that again. This was back in 2012 since Ubuntu 12.04 was out.
[03:34] <html> OldSchool,  x11vnc?  ------teamveiwer ??---
[03:34] <OldSchool> yes. The linux version that does the same thing.
[03:34] <html> OldSchool,  well i need your hardware setup
[03:34] <html> yes oh course..
[03:35] <html> i use teamveiwer on everyting
[03:35] <html> amlost anything i can.
[03:36] <html> OldSchool,  would you want to voip chat with me?
[03:36] <OldSchool> html: I am typing up my hardware setup now. I would VOIP chat, but my internet sucks. I am lucky to get 35 kB/second downloads
[03:37] <sydney> :)
[03:37] <html> lol then mumble would work fine
[03:38] <Blaster> Hey guys.
[03:38] <Blaster> I have an external HDD which automatically mounts itself as fuseblk, but I need the www-data to be able to read data from it.
[03:39] <Blaster> How can I remount it so I can allow that to happen?
[03:43] <teward> Blaster: maybe this will help?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/11840/how-do-i-use-chmod-on-an-ntfs-or-fat32-partition
[03:43] <html> ahhh bacon and groups?
[03:44] <Blaster> teward: Touche. Thanks.
[03:44] <Blaster> Now I just need to figure out what “-o rw,auto,user,fmask=0022,dmask=0000” means.
[03:47] <royadev> Hi everyone!!
[03:47] <sydney> I don't understand it,my keyboard acts like i don't type correctly. its forgets halfof the kes i type?
[03:47] <sydney> keys*
[03:48] <teward> Blaster: rw = read write, auto = automatic mount, user = mounting by users is permitted, fmask = umask applied to regular files, dmask = umask applied to directories.  umask = bit mask of the permissions that are NOT present.  (i.e. 0022 = 755 basically)
[03:48] <teward> Blaster: courtesy of the manpage - http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/mount.8.html
[03:48] <sydney> it just makes no sense.Or is it fixed now?
[03:48] <Blaster> teward: You da man!
[03:48] <teward> Blaster: helps when you're in the right channels ;)
[03:48] <Blaster> I just have to get the UUID of that external so I can add an fstab entry.
[03:49] <teward> Blaster: FWIW though, the manpages are useful :)
[03:49] <Blaster> Yeah I was reading it, I'm looking at the Mount options for ntfs right now.
[03:50] <sydney> hmm,i think its fixed. :)
[03:51] <Blaster> My device is located at /dev/sdc1 but `blkid /dev/sdc1` doesn't give an output.
[03:51] <Blaster> Trying to get the UUID.
[03:52] <Blaster> Okay I could see it by doing `ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid` and it says it's like `10408FCA808FBA54`.
[03:52] <Blaster> That doesn't even look like a UUID to me teward.
[03:53] <gr33n7007h> Blaster, just blkid, see what pops up
[03:53] <Blaster> Read ^.
[03:53] <Blaster> I did blkid and nothing came up.
[03:53] <teward> Blaster: sudo blkid
[03:54] <Blaster> Wise.
[03:54] <Blaster> So apparently that is the UUID.  Doesn't look like any of the ones I have seen before though.
[03:59] <Blaster> teward: The man pages don't even mention the fmask and dmask options, all I see is uid, gid, and umask.
[03:59] <teward> Blaster: true i was answering your question earlier ;)
[04:00] <teward> uid = user id, gid = group id, umask = permissions mask of what isn't present (like before)
[04:00] <Blaster> That askubuntu answer says to use those.
[04:00] <Blaster> fmask and dmask.
[04:00] <teward> Blaster: use whichever, but before making an fstab entry try just providing them as mount options
[04:01] <teward> note experimentation sometimes bricks drives
[04:01] <Blaster> teward: What do you mean by "permissions mask of what isn't present".
[04:01] <teward> (NTFS and UNIX file permissions are always going to be problematic like this)
[04:01] <teward> Blaster: did you see my initial answer to your first question of what the arguments meant?
[04:01] <Blaster> There is sensitive data on this drive.
[04:01] <Blaster> Yes.
[04:01] <teward> [2014/09/14 23:48:02] <teward> Blaster: ...  umask = bit mask of the permissions that are NOT present.  (i.e. 0022 = 755 basically)
[04:02] <teward> and with that, sleep time, it's late
[04:02] <Blaster> I just don't get what you mean by not present.
[04:02] <Blaster> Okay.
[04:02] <Blaster> Thanks for the help!
[04:13] <urielvigilant> I have lots of time invested in my Lubuntu 14.04.1, after intallastion. Time asking "How to do it" here and on google, to make my wifi laptop work, to make my pen 4G Lte work, to make my scanner and printer work, to improve graphics, to have wine, to make it Hibernate, to make it read DVDs, an other stuffs i dont remember now. So if i need one day to install a new version on another laptop...
[04:13] <urielvigilant> ...with this configurations , how to do it ?
[04:14] <yofun> So I have the PPA https://launchpad.net/~bitcoin/+archive/ubuntu/bitcoin installed. and I installed bitcoin-qt It installed version 4.8.6, how can I get 0.9.2.1?
[04:16] <urielvigilant> yofun bitcoins is faster on linux ?
[04:17] <urielvigilant> you
[04:17] <urielvigilant> yofun   you can mine more bitcoin using linux ?
[04:24] <yofun> urielvigilant:  Never mind, I got the lastest version I was looking at it wrong.
[04:24] <yofun> urielvigilant:  I dont mine.
[04:24] <yofun> Well...I do... but not on my laptoo
[04:24] <yofun> laptop
[04:33] <satix> Ello
[04:35] <malkauns_> hi
[04:35] <urielvigilant> hi
[04:35] <lookingforbill> hi guys
[04:36] <satix> Any hot news on ubuntu phone
[04:36] <urielvigilant> yofun do you have mine machines ? they use linux ?=
[04:36] <somsip> !touch | satix
[04:36] <urielvigilant> yofun i mean that kind of mine machinas like this 2 to 3TH/s
[04:37] <lookingforbill> does anyknow where i can find the ubuntu support channel?
[04:37] <malkauns_> LOL
[04:37] <satix> You found it
[04:37]  * gr33n7007h follow the white rabbit.....
[04:37] <malkauns_> lookingforbill: that a joke?
[04:37] <lookingforbill> that was esay
[04:38] <lookingforbill> anyone know about hp boot loader compatability isues
[04:41] <yofun> urielvigilant:  I do cloud mining :p
[04:41] <malkauns_> lookingforbill: ask a specific question
[04:42] <urielvigilant> yofun how many bitcoins you think you can mine with a minimum hashing speed of 3TH/s actually per day ?
[04:42] <somsip> !ot | urielvigilant
[04:42] <yofun> Errr I dont know. I have 11MH, I make .0071 btc a day
[04:43] <lookingforbill> Hp with a amd64 processor, I loaded the os to the disk but it won't boot off the hard disk, the hard drive is fine, I am trying to resolve the read error
[04:50] <Bashing-om> lookingforbill: -> sudo fdisk -lu | pastebinit <- to show what we are working with, and where the boot code should be installed .
[04:57] <lookingforbill> It comes back with an error "GPT Guid partition table" detected on /dev/sda util fdisk doesn't support gnu parted
[04:57] <Bashing-om> lookingforbill: Are you lost ? Additional guidance needed ?
[05:00] <lookingforbill> the processor doen't seem to support the uefi, I set it to legacy boot but it still doesn't work when i load the 64 bit 14.04.1 lt worked with the 32 is there a special partition style I need to use?
[05:02] <Bashing-om> lookingforbill: Oh Boy, UEFI .. OK, are you dual booting Windows ?
[05:02] <DonkeyHotei> so i finally upgraded precise to trusty and i have a couple hiccups
[05:02] <DonkeyHotei> text antialiasing is not working right
[05:02] <DonkeyHotei> the screen is hard to read
[05:04] <volkan> Hi, on the bar there is an error icon says "A problem occured when checking for the updates". Do you know how can I fix that problem?
[05:05] <lookingforbill> no I installed it to the whole disk, I had windows 8 on it than changed to ubuntu 12.0 32 with the full disk, I was able to run the 32 lke that. It doesn't seem to want to read it now though with the 64bit I have it set to legacy now aswell
[05:08] <josh0x0> hey guys. I ran an “aptitude upgrade” on an EC2 server and it’s been stuck on “/usr/sbin/update-grub-legacy-ec2” for over 40 minutes. i don’t remember non-dist upgrades taking so long, esp 1 step. is this normal?
[05:08] <josh0x0> ^^^ ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[05:08] <Bashing-om> lookingforbill: Well, Window8=UEFI=64bits. Ubuntu does install in UEFI mode and the 64 bit OS is recommended.
[05:08] <simonjr45> i am not able to install steam on my netbook emachines
[05:09] <simonjr45> why is that?
[05:09] <Mathuin> Any hints on disabling efifb on trusty tahr ?
[05:09] <Mathuin> I think it's interfering with my nvidia drivers, based on a message I'm getting in dmesg.
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> !steam | simonjr45
[05:10] <Bashing-om> lookingforbill: It is past my thinkability tiem, and this may tale a bit of time. I am calling ot for this session. Others will respond and get ya up and running.
[05:10] <lookingforbill> Thanks,
[05:10] <simonjr45> thanx for the info ubottu and lotuspsychje
[05:11] <simonjr45> does anyone here know how to rectify the problem with front panel audio jack not functioning in ubuntu 14.04
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> simonjr45: you can also try playonlinux for gaming on ubuntu
[05:11] <simonjr45> i c I could go there as well
[05:12] <simonjr45> I didn't know linux platform had so many games website
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | simonjr45
[05:12] <simonjr45> I am very new to ubuntu and linux
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> simonjr45: its a package to install
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Mathuin: wich card and wich error plz?
[05:13] <simonjr45> do I need to install an antivirus software on ubuntu ... I can't find any on the software centre
[05:13] <simonjr45> what if there is a hacker or virus attack?
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> !security | simonjr45
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> simonjr45: its always good to have common sense, even on ubuntu
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> simonjr45: clamav rkhunter iptables might help you
[05:14] <simonjr45> oh ok thanx anyway
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> simonjr45: and a strong root password
[05:15] <simonjr45> nobody has answered my problem with the front audio jack on ubuntu
[05:15] <DonkeyHotei> [Sun 2014-09-14 10:02:21 PM PDT] <DonkeyHotei> so i finally upgraded precise to trusty and i have a couple hiccups
[05:15] <DonkeyHotei> [Sun 2014-09-14 10:02:43 PM PDT] <DonkeyHotei> text antialiasing is not working right
[05:15] <DonkeyHotei> [Sun 2014-09-14 10:02:51 PM PDT] <DonkeyHotei> the screen is hard to read
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> !sound > simonjr45
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: your grafix card good enough to run?
[05:17] <DonkeyHotei> geforce 8600 using binary drivers
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: tryed other drivers yet?
[05:17] <DonkeyHotei> "other" ?
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: doublecheck 'additional drivers' section
[05:18] <DonkeyHotei> i have nvidia-331-updates selected
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: you have other drivers in list to test?
[05:21] <DonkeyHotei> lotuspsychje: mostly "legacy" drivers. i think i have a corrupt setting in unity
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: did you install ubuntu with internet connection?
[05:22] <netlar> Need help with the App Drawers, I it is not working properly
[05:22] <netlar> You cannot add apps to it anymore
[05:23] <DonkeyHotei> lotuspsychje: yes
[05:23] <netlar> Does not appear to be working on 14.04
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: unity restart then maybe
[05:24] <DonkeyHotei> what's a unity restart?
[05:24] <BQ_> there are /dev/sda1 sda2 and sda5 for new installation. sda1 is for system, sda5 is for swap, what is for sda2?
[05:26] <netlar> It says Drawers is compatible for 14.04 and it is in the official repository
[05:26] <Mathuin> lotuspsychje: It's rebooting, as soon as it comes up I will tell you which card.  The error is "Your system is not currently configured to drive a VGA console on the primary VGA device. The NVIDIA Linux graphics driver requires the use of a text-mode VGA console. Use of other console drivers including, but not limited to, vesafb, may result in corruption and stability problems, and is not supported."
[05:26] <matty_r> BQ_ data
[05:27] <Mathuin> lotuspsychje: GeForce GTX 560 Ti running driver version 340.32.
[05:27] <netlar> Or is there someway to group apps on the launcher
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: try unity --replace
[05:28] <BQ_> matty_r: I don't use it in fstab.
[05:28] <DonkeyHotei> lotuspsychje: would that do anything a reboot wouldn't?
[05:28] <BQ_> matty_r: I don't see it in fstab.
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: you might do a reboot after yes
[05:28] <varela> hola
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> !es | varela
[05:29] <BQ_> matty_r: also don't see it in "df".
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> BQ_: try gparted to see whats going on
[05:29] <DonkeyHotei> lotuspsychje: i've rebooted several times already
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: but not yet with a unity restart
[05:30] <matty_r> BQ_ Where are you running df from?
[05:30] <BQ_> matty_r: my user account
[05:30] <matty_r> Did you setup the partitions manually? Or did the installer do it?
[05:31] <BQ_> matty_r: it is fresh install. no manual
[05:32] <matty_r> BQ_ Run command sudo blkid
[05:33] <matty_r> are all partitions listed?
[05:33] <DonkeyHotei> lotuspsychje: ok, that didn't do it
[05:34] <BQ_> matty_r: only sda1 and sda5
[05:35] <matty_r> BQ_ using df, do the sizes add up to the entire drive?
[05:39] <DonkeyHotei> lotuspsychje: is there any antialias control in gsettings?
[05:40] <darius93> how do i disable vsync with the opensource radeon drivers?
[05:42] <BQ> matty_r: df only shows sda1 about 5G, not sure how much swap. total is 8G
[05:42] <BQ> matty_r: df only shows sda1 about 5G, not sure how much swap. total is 8G
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: i think there's a package with nvidia settings
[05:43] <BQ> lotuspsychje: gparted shows sda2 is empty
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-settings | DonkeyHotei
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> BQ: empty partition on your first HD?
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> BQ: active or unallocated?
[05:45] <BQ> lotuspsychje: oh actually no. sda2 has 1G but not active.
[05:45] <Caramoan> i try steam to install in ubuntu 14.04, sudo apt-get install steam -y like this but unable to fetch some archives..
[05:45] <BQ> lotuspsychje: it shows sda2 is an extended FS.
[05:46] <BQ> lotuspsychje: what is in your system?
[05:46] <Snake2k> Ubuntu > Life
[05:46]  * Snake2k hugs Ubuntu.
[05:46] <BQ> matty_r: df only shows sda1 about 5G, not sure how much swap. total is 8G
[05:47] <DonkeyHotei> lotuspsychje: nvidia-settings doesn't seem to affect it. i'm convinced unity/compiz are to blame
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: did you already try unity --replace ?
[05:50] <DonkeyHotei> yes
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: try another window manager to test
[05:52] <optrustylistener> Help! Right after i installed ubuntu 14.04 my whole computer froze
[05:52] <DonkeyHotei> i tried gnome classic, didn't have this issue
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: maybe try disable compiz settings, like active blur
[05:57] <DonkeyHotei> lotuspsychje: where do i find active blur?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> !info compizconfig-settings-manager | DonkeyHotei
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: you can disable background blur with it
[05:58] <BQ> lotuspsychje: ok i think it is an extended partition used as a mark if your use is beyond sda4, like old partition sheme.
[05:58] <DonkeyHotei> lotuspsychje: where do i find background blur?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> BQ: if this belongs to your first HD, i would go reinstall ubuntu with whole hd reformat
[05:59] <BQ> lotuspsychje: it does not accupy space. just an extension marker for sda5.
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> BQ: can you place a screenshot of it?
[05:59] <optrustylistener> Anybody help
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> !details | optrustylistener
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: did you install it?
[06:00] <DonkeyHotei> i have it open
[06:00] <BQ> lotuspsychje: why do I need to reinstall? it is just as intended by ubuntu. it is a fresh install.
[06:01] <BQ> lotuspsychje: you can check your own system. it should be the same thing.
[06:01] <DonkeyHotei> found active blur under dash blur, no effect
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: set to no effect yes
[06:01] <optrustylistener> Lotuspsychje either I am laggy or were you trying to get ubottu
[06:01] <DonkeyHotei> i mean disabling it had no effect
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: try a reboot after
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: could be also a bug on your system, or need of kernel update
[06:02] <DonkeyHotei> but isn't dash blur only for the dash?
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> DonkeyHotei: doublecheck your /var/log/syslog for errors or dmesg
[06:04] <BQ> how to check from which one of 4 repositories is the software just intalled via apt-get install?
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> BQ: software sources
[06:05] <optrustylistener> So my problem is that when after I installed Ubuntu 14.04 my computer froze on the laptop
[06:06]  * iam3fun Good morning :)
[06:09] <BQ> optrustylistener: restart
[06:09] <optrustylistener> Will anyone help me
[06:10] <optrustylistener> Bq what do you mean restart
[06:10] <BQ> restart your laptop
[06:11] <optrustylistener> estart my comp
[06:11] <optrustylistener> bq oh its not a simple fix
[06:12] <optrustylistener> bq I restarted it about 5 times
[06:12] <BQ> restart from a live libux usb
[06:13] <Mathuin> How can I tell what partitions have GRUB 2 installed on them?
[06:13] <optrustylistener> bq I have been like completely locked out of my system no f2 or f12
[06:13] <BQ> why no f2 or f12?
[06:14] <cat__> Can anyone tell me the easiest and most secure way of changing Ubuntu 14.04's color scheme? I'm sure it has something to do with Gnome, but that's about it..
[06:14] <optrustylistener> bq  completely
[06:15] <BQ> what do you mean?
[06:15] <optrustylistener> BBQ I press it but it does not respond
[06:15] <optrustylistener> orry spell checker bq
[06:16] <SP33D> oh allmighty ubuntu community plz tell me what would you do if you would whant to get simply all files in /var/log always rendered to stdout and stderr
[06:16] <BQ> press longer
[06:17] <optrustylistener> bq I did it for 10 seconds at least
[06:18] <BQ> any output in your screen?
[06:19] <optrustylistener> Bq ^^^^
[06:19] <optrustylistener> bq just Toshiba leading innovation logo
[06:22] <BQ> if you restarted many times and no luck, then maybe it is time for you either repair yourself or goto repair shop.
[06:23] <DonkeyHotei> [Sun 2014-09-14 10:02:21 PM PDT] <DonkeyHotei> so i finally upgraded precise to trusty and i have a couple hiccups
[06:23] <DonkeyHotei> [Sun 2014-09-14 10:02:43 PM PDT] <DonkeyHotei> text antialiasing is not working right
[06:23] <DonkeyHotei> [Sun 2014-09-14 10:02:51 PM PDT] <DonkeyHotei> the screen is hard to read
[06:23] <BQ> you can open your laptop and remove the hard disk, then try reboot from a linux usb stick
[06:33] <wafflejock> SP33D: maybe something like tail -f /var/log/*.log
[06:34] <wafflejock> or even tail -f /var/log*
[06:34] <wafflejock> er rather tail -f /var/log/*
[06:34] <wafflejock> also multitail is pretty nice for just a few at a time
[06:34] <rcmaehl_webchat> How do I use bluetooth for things OTHER than file transfers on Ubuntu?
[06:35] <wafflejock> rcmaehl_webchat: not sure just been fiddling with the bluetooth audio but it doesn't do everything I want it to
[06:35] <sjoshi> Hello, I am getting Kernel panic! where i can find and provide more information on this
[06:35] <wafflejock> rcmaehl_webchat: what are you trying to do in particular
[06:35] <Mathuin> rcmaehl_webchat: it "just works" with PS3 controllers and Steam if you install qtsixa and pair the controllers.
[06:35] <rcmaehl_webchat> wafflejock: mainly tethering over bluetooth
[06:36] <wafflejock> rcmaehl_webchat: oh that actually just seems to work out of the box on Ubuntu Gnome, I just go to the settings panel open bluetooth and paired my phone it asked if I wanted it to add it as a PAN device for data I said yes and now it's an option in my wifi panel
[06:36] <rcmaehl_webchat> So I need ubuntu gnome :|
[06:36] <rcmaehl_webchat> or whatever package it uses
[06:37] <wafflejock> rcmaehl_webchat: don't think so
[06:37] <wafflejock> yeah
[06:37] <wafflejock> maybe some packages
[06:37] <rcmaehl_webchat> which is like 1 out of a couple hundred
[06:37] <wafflejock> yeah PAN is just a toggle button in my bluetooth settings panel
[06:37] <wafflejock> er checkbox whateves
[06:39] <wafflejock> rcmaehl_webchat: it's in the gnome-control-center
[06:40] <wafflejock> but not sure if that automatically includes all the bluetooth parts needed or that panel in particular
[06:44] <waykool99> i'm testing Lubuntu v14.04.4 both amd64 and i386. in GUI can Xfce and/or Gnome 2 or 3 co-exist with LXDE?
[06:49] <gr33n7007h> waykool99, yep
[06:50] <waykool99> gr33n7007h thank you.
[06:52] <gr33n7007h> waykool99, to choose your default use update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
[06:52] <waykool99> i love this Lubuntu. reminds of years ago using knoppix live cd/dvd. has the same look and feel. can multi-task many programs at once. pound swappiness = 10 keeps crashes down.
[06:53] <waykool99> *keeps crashes down
[06:53] <waykool99> really? thx again
[06:54] <waykool99> i have to ask... where is the real Swappiness setting? spent hours looking. no luck.
[06:57] <neredsenvy> Is there a way to rename all files in folder from terminal ? I have bunch of files randomly named and would like to name them 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,....
[06:57] <neredsenvy> I really don't want to thinker in C right now
[06:59] <somsip> neredsenvy: write a bash script. something like COUNT=1; for file in ./ do; mv $file $COUNT; done; That probably won't work but gives you the idea
[07:01] <wafflejock> I typically default to Java with stuff like that but yeah bash is probably the easiest way
[07:02] <pooky> I'm trying to recompile the php5 package to include some additional flags, but after it finishes it tries to run some mysql tests which fail. When I've looked into the issue online it says it's related to app armor. I tried adding the path to apparmor but it has not cleared up the issue. Any suggestions or advice?
[07:04] <waykool99> does "freshclam" normally have giant downloads, 100% CPU, 98% RAM, 20% Swap, pc lag?
[07:06] <waykool99> yet freshclam doesn't use much CPU cycles.
[07:07] <wafflejock> waykool99: not sure about all of that but clamav definitely takes a lot of memory
[07:08] <waykool99> in Task Manager, trying to figure out what's "Nice", "Priority"?
[07:08] <waykool99> waffle yes you're correct
[07:09] <neredsenvy> somsip: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3b91660307755df1f9f8 I have it like this however I get unknown command
[07:10] <neredsenvy> when i do sudo ./rename.sh
[07:10] <neredsenvy> well command not found to be correct
[07:10] <wafflejock> waykool99: niceness/priorty has to do with how the CPU schedules the processes http://askubuntu.com/questions/48708/change-niceness-priority-of-a-running-process
[07:11] <waykool99> waffle, again thx. after typing my brains out, you just answered my question. lol
[07:13] <wafflejock> waykool99: np there is a nice explanation of it on wikipedia too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_(Unix)
[07:13] <damccull> so I want to do a fresh install of 14.04. I backed up my home folder, but now I want to back up my software selection so I can tell it to automatically reinstall somehow on the back end. I would like to do this without a gui. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[07:13] <waykool99> again thank you Wafflejock.  BTW kool name. :)
[07:13] <wafflejock> damccull: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17823/how-to-list-all-installed-packages
[07:14] <wafflejock> waykool99: hehe thanks so like it some don't been using it for like 17 years though so probably won't change :)
[07:15] <damccull> why dpkg instead of apt-get or aptitude?
[07:15] <wafflejock> damccull: apt-get uses dpkg anyhow I'm pretty sure
[07:15] <damccull> oic
[07:16] <wafflejock> there's quite a few ways to go about it in that SO post though
[07:16] <waykool99> so Nice Processes started from France beautiful land and fine wine. no offense to California wine, which i love.
[07:16] <wafflejock> typically I just do it myself I don't have a million packages and it gives me a chance to clean up
[07:17] <wafflejock> damccull: also if you just backup your .config folders in your home folder you can usually see what you had installed and just get the latest of that
[07:17] <damccull> what .config folder?
[07:17] <wafflejock> damccull: if you have a NAS or external drive use clonezilla to get a full snapshot or rsync to copy your home folder and whatever else you might want first
[07:18] <wafflejock> damccull: just mean general dot files in your home folder
[07:18] <damccull> ah i see
[07:18] <waykool99> years ago apt-get autoremove -or- Janitor used to trash libcssdvd2. (spelling)
[07:18] <wafflejock> damccull: the hidden files for various programs like .filezilla or whatever
[07:18] <damccull> actually i can't NAS this :( It's a remote server
[07:18] <damccull> aside from my home dir, where else might i want to save configuration from?
[07:18] <wafflejock> damccull: ah well you should be able to still rsync, is it a VPS? if so usually you have a snapshot option
[07:19] <wafflejock> damccull: /etc/ will have other config stuff at a system level
[07:20] <damccull> it's a vps yes. I have taken a backup, but I still have to download my stuff cause my provider doesn't have a way to mount backups as readable
[07:20] <damccull> and i need to image the vps with their 14.04 template
[07:20] <wafflejock> damccull: ah gotcha, can't just spin up an extra instance for transferring things?
[07:20] <damccull> wafflejock: i spose if i wanted to pay for another instance this month ;)
[07:20] <waykool99> i have lots of spare ATA/SATA drives. is it possible to create an "image" or DVD ISO or even save a great install to another empty HD?
[07:21] <wafflejock> damccull: well shouldn't be for the whole month you using DO or AWS?
[07:21] <damccull> some magic with 'dd' does it waykool99 but i don't know how
[07:21] <damccull> wafflejock: togglebox
[07:21] <neredsenvy> Anyone able to help me with my bash script to rename all my image files to 1,2,3.jpg ... ? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3b91660307755df1f9f8 I get command not found error trying to call ./rename.sh
[07:21] <waykool99> hm. ok.
[07:21] <damccull> it's not that it would cost the hwole month
[07:21] <wafflejock> just sayin it's good to have a plan for how you can get stuff back that you forgot to back up, it's all good I like to save money too :)
[07:22] <damccull> it's just annoying to do. they don't have an automatic "clone this machine" button, and to create a new instance I'd have to purchase more resources, spin up a new one, then move everything, shut down this one, release these resources... annoying :)
[07:22] <wafflejock> yeah gotcha
[07:22] <damccull> but they're CHEAP
[07:22] <damccull> AWS wants ALL my monies :(
[07:22] <damccull> also MS and google
[07:22] <wafflejock> haha just googled it says Cheap cloud hosting :)
[07:23] <damccull> i pay like 9 bucks a month
[07:23] <waykool99> yes, i know in ubuntu studio v10.04 Terminal lets you Rename new tabs and/or windows. in this Lubuntu, can't find one so far. sorry,
[07:23] <wafflejock> damccull: yeah that's around digital ocean prices
[07:23] <damccull> whos' that
[07:23] <wafflejock> damccull: AWS is definitely more I pay around $30 a month
[07:23] <wafflejock> http://digtalocean.com/
[07:23] <damccull> oh my bad. 19 bucks amonth
[07:23] <wafflejock> https://www.digitalocean.com/
[07:23] <wafflejock> misspell
[07:24] <damccull> 10gb space, 2gb ram. know a better place for me?
[07:24] <wafflejock> DO you can get for $5 a month check the last link might be good
[07:24] <damccull> k
[07:24] <damccull> i like togglebox's capabilites but i don't really use it to the extent it's useful for
[07:25] <wafflejock> eh yeah same with AWS for me, it can do way more than I need most of the time
[07:25] <wafflejock> but I like the ability to scale things relatively easily, expanding the box size and starting a new instance wasn't too bad when I needed it
[07:25] <damccull> wow DO is nice
[07:25] <wafflejock> started with a micro instance for free for a year
[07:25] <wafflejock> yeah DO is pretty decent
[07:25] <wafflejock>  if I didn't setup AWS first I would have probably gone DO
[07:25] <damccull> AWS seems hard. Don't you ahve to write scripts and use APIs to do all the stuff?
[07:25] <wafflejock> no their interface is okay once you get used to it you can do most things there
[07:26] <wafflejock> the scripts are nice thing though if you want to automate the backup, upgrade process
[07:26] <damccull> hmm
[07:26] <wafflejock> it's just a lot of AWS specific terminology
[07:26] <wafflejock> EBS EC2 S3 etc. etc.
[07:26] <damccull> what about storage? i thought you had to have a separate storage plan from the main box
[07:27] <wafflejock> I have an EBS backed instance, so it's all under one account and I basically created a volume that lives beyond the life of the EC2 instance
[07:27] <wafflejock> it is more complicated for sure
[07:27] <damccull> hmm
[07:27] <damccull> yeah sounds lame. :)
[07:27] <damccull> definitely not what i need
[07:27] <wafflejock> haha yeah if I had the option of DO at the time I would have done it instead
[07:27] <malkaunsn> hi
[07:28] <damccull> does DO do windows if i need it?
[07:28] <wafflejock> actually don't know about that
[07:28] <wafflejock> not something that came to mind for me since I never use IIS servers
[07:28] <waykool99> i messed up the Cylinder count in GParted/Testdisk. when you do a clean install, does it automatically fix the CHS?
[07:28] <Tex_Nick> guess i'm just old-school, but seems to me that archiving locally is just so simple ,,, so inexpensive & so fast ... why do it on the cloud
[07:29] <damccull> wafflejock: i don't anticipate ever needing widnows, and if I do, I always have azure
[07:29] <damccull> which i like anyways
[07:29] <wafflejock> Tex_Nick: well I use it for a web/email server
[07:29] <cfhowlett> Tex_Nick, 3 level archive??? one local / close at hand, one remote and one ... elsewhere?
[07:31] <damccull> i use it for a mumble/teamspeak server, minecraft, mud
[07:31] <damccull> stuff i don't want my crappy internet to drop
[07:32] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett: well elsewhere i guess is the point ... but I really don't want my data stored somewhere with someone I don'k know & don't have controll of ?
[07:32] <cfhowlett> Tex_Nick, true true.   how about "owncloud" ?
[07:32] <waykool99> "iconify". thats a new word to me.  says "left click to iconify all windows. middle click to  shade(???)
[07:32] <wafflejock> still have to run the owncloud somewhere
[07:33] <waykool99> thinks Shade is like the old Roll Up in gnome 2.
[07:33] <wafflejock> yeah linux guys just make up words :) valmorfinize your iconified windows
[07:33] <waykool99> lol
[07:33] <wafflejock> shade is a relatively typical term though
[07:34] <wafflejock> just roll up the window into the titlebar
[07:34] <waykool99> new words started with that Unity thingy.
[07:34] <damccull> I like DO's prices better atm
[07:34] <damccull> i'm just gonna spin up a new server there and transfer
[07:34] <damccull> i wonder how their support it
[07:34] <damccull> is
[07:34] <wafflejock> damccull: yeah if you want a promo code for $10 they have em at jupiterbroadcasting.com I think
[07:35] <wafflejock> damccull: they are one of the advertisers for the shows there
[07:35] <wafflejock> that's how I know about em at all
[07:36] <waykool99> thinks my Netgear router firmware got trashed somehow. SSID used to say Netgear or Netgear-Guest. now it says NTGR_E
[07:37] <waykool99> did 4 factory resets with the pin.
[07:38] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett: I hear ya man & you make a good point ... however cloud just freaks me out ... how do I know who has access to it ... I know it's encrypted but ???
[07:39] <waykool99> just got a oboom account. i worry also.
[07:39] <wafflejock> Tex_Nick: there is a service that encrypts it locally with a key you only have before sending it I'm having trouble remembering it
[07:39] <gr33n7007h> neredsenvy, does it have to be in bash?
[07:39] <wafflejock> Tex_Nick: the guys on BSD Now talk about it one of the shows on the site I put above too
[07:39] <neredsenvy> gr33n7007h: Fixed alreayd
[07:39] <cfhowlett> Tex_Nick, these days I assume all data and internet services are completely compromised ... excuse me. must adjust hat foil.
[07:40] <gr33n7007h> ah, ok
[07:40] <wafflejock> cfhowlett: best policy
[07:40] <waykool99> best i know of, sendspace.com   off an island in country of Greece. paid them for 10 years until Snowden/NSA story broke.
[07:40] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett: ^5 man ;)))
[07:40] <wafflejock> but same can be said for data in a computer
[07:40] <trijntje> wafflejock: I ended up using lightdm to run the script on logout, as explained here http://askubuntu.com/questions/293312/execute-a-script-upon-logout-reboot-shutdown-in-ubuntu . bash_logout only works when you logout from the command line
[07:40] <wafflejock> you guys hear of the hack using speakers/mics to pass along data between disconnected machines
[07:41] <wafflejock> trijntje: ah good to know
[07:41] <wafflejock> trijntje: so you got it solved then though eh?
[07:41] <wafflejock> trijntje: how'd you configure lightdm to trigger it on logout?
[07:41] <damccull> that was WAAAAAY too easy to spend money on a server :D
[07:41] <trijntje> wafflejock: yeah, finally automated backups of home so I dont have to worry about that any more
[07:42] <trijntje> session-cleanup-script=/path/to/script
[07:42] <trijntje> in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[07:42] <wafflejock> damccull: haha yeah the internet is great at taking your money :D
[07:42] <damccull> so true :(
[07:42] <wafflejock> trijntje: ah nice
[07:42] <damccull> wafflejock: i need a way to use the internet to take other peoples moeny
[07:42] <damccull> ideas?
[07:42] <wafflejock> damccull: I'm working on the same problem
[07:43] <waykool99> lol shame shame
[07:44] <Vladimir_> I made crontab to execute a script that adds a timestamp to file names i a directory, every 10 minutes. And now after the weekend It
[07:44] <Vladimir_> now the server has over 800 instances and the CPU is running full time! :/
[07:44] <abc-phone> and then?
[07:45] <abc-phone> run htop to
[07:45] <waykool99> likes htop once in a while.
[07:46] <abc-phone> ...
[07:46] <Vladimir_> and then?
[07:46] <abc-phone> i don't konw
[07:46] <abc-phone> sorry
[07:46] <waykool99> good on-the-fly task manager
[07:46] <Vladimir_> my boss says I shouldn't run crontab in a nevending loop and instead use crontab just to execute ?:/
[07:46] <laul> get the process name and then type `pkill junkscript.sh`
[07:47] <abc-phone> i have never met cases like this
[07:47] <abc-phone> laul, yes
[07:47] <Vladimir_> I van'
[07:47] <Vladimir_> I can't understand the difference between loop and executions by Crontab?
[07:47] <Vladimir_> doesn
[07:48] <Vladimir_> doesn't crontab always loop
[07:48] <somsip> Vladimir_: crontab executes at a set time, or interval. The script it calls can either run once, or loop
[07:48] <Vladimir_> u set crontab to execute a script or wharever at a specific time
[07:49] <Vladimir_> oh you mean like that
[07:49] <Vladimir_> yeah I understand
[07:49] <damccull> ok...how can I scp my entire home folder to a new machine? :)
[07:50] <Vladimir_> oh yeah, the script it runs is a while loop... I should just get rid of the loop
[07:50] <somsip> Vladimir_: so if you call a looping script every minute, after an hour you have 60 instances of the script running
[07:50] <somsip> Vladimir_: probably
[07:50] <somsip> damccull: -r for recursive
[07:50] <damccull> thanks
[07:51] <wafflejock> damccull: should be pretty straightforward scp -r /home/myuser your_username@remotehostip:/home/myuser
[07:51] <Dan```> Hey guys. I am having immense trouble with trying to get Ubuntu to recognise my screen. As it is, it boots and LightDM shows in a lower resolution (1024x768), I can login and it will stay with that resolution until I manually use xrandr to resize to the appropriate resolution (1920x1080). This occurs no matter the driver I use, nvidia or (preferably) nouveau. I have tried configuring X to no avail. Please help, thanks!
[07:51] <Vladimir_> this is what it looks like somsip : http://pastebin.com/AtUPsLQw
[07:51] <damccull> sweet.
[07:51] <damccull> seems to be working.
[07:52] <damccull> i spose it won't keep execute perms though will it?
[07:52] <Dan```> I should also mention that when I log out, LightDM will resize to 1024x768.
[07:52] <wafflejock> damccull: not sure how the permissions stuff moves over exactly you might have to chown some stuff
[07:52] <damccull> username is the same so i hope not
[07:52] <somsip> Vladimir_: remove the loop in the script and run the cronjob every 10 mins will probably do what you are trying to achieve
[07:52] <Vladimir_> somsip: like this: http://pastebin.com/x2wSZPhc
[07:53] <wafflejock> damccull: well think it's based on the user id possibly not just the name itself but really not sure how scp handles that
[07:53] <damccull> aside from putty, what's the favored (free) ssh term?
[07:53] <damccull> for windows
[07:53] <somsip> Vladimir_: yes, but with better formatting and maybe a comment
[07:53] <wafflejock> putty
[07:53] <wafflejock> haha
[07:53] <damccull> no tabs in putty :( also stores sites in registry :(
[07:53] <wafflejock> damccull: I suppose you can use cygwin
[07:53] <damccull> mainly it's the registry i hate
[07:53] <wafflejock> damccull: I've always just used putty though
[07:54] <damccull> i use mobaxterm atm but looking for a better one
[07:54] <wafflejock> yea dunno been out of Windows as a main environment for a while
[07:54] <damccull> yeah i can't do that
[07:54] <laul> run a vm?
[07:54] <damccull> until i can run ALL my games and also C# in linux
[07:55] <damccull> and by C# i mean visual studio
[07:55]  * damccull hugs C#. Hugs it real good
[07:55] <wafflejock> damccull: well that'll never happen I just have another box for gaming stuff, but that's changing over some
[07:55] <Vladimir_> somsip: better formatting?
[07:55] <damccull> steambox is really making a huge push into linux
[07:55] <damccull> i like that
[07:55] <wafflejock> yea it's nice
[07:56] <somsip> Vladimir_: if you are coding for someone who is paying your wages, at least try to make the code be well formatted and informative (use comments)
[07:56] <damccull> ok is there a way to do winodws-like ACLs on files in linux? the linux permissions just seems so old and not granular enough
[07:56] <damccull> rwx you know? that' sit?
[07:56] <Vladimir_> somsip: alright=) thank you
[07:57] <wafflejock> damccull: well the permissions in windows files are the same really it's just the AD part that's missing I think
[07:57] <damccull> Vladimir_: if you are coding, at least try to make the code be well formatted and informative (use comments)
[07:57] <Vladimir_> somsip: it's an internship, I should do it as proffesionally as possible=)
[07:57] <wafflejock> damccull: also you can use something like this http://windowtabs.com/ there are a few variations of this out there to add windows inside of tabs that are running whatever
[07:58] <damccull> wafflejock: sorry, i didn't mean rwx really. I meant how you can do 'me, group, everyone' only
[07:58] <damccull> instead of individual users and principles
[07:59] <wafflejock> damccull: right that part is just different, I mean you still have rwx for owner group and others but the groups part doesn't seem to have any GUI management
[07:59] <Tex_Nick> damccull: you could also use nautilus for such transfers ... nautilus sftp://userName@nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn/path ... nautilus will open on the remote box
[07:59] <damccull> Tex_Nick: thanks. i thought nautilus is gui though?
[08:00] <wafflejock> Tex_Nick: yeah this is all command line atm for damccull but that's a good one to know too
[08:00] <damccull> wafflejock: what i want to do is say: user1 can rwx this, user2 can rx this, user3 can r this, everyone else shove it.
[08:00] <Tex_Nick> it is sir ... sorry didn't see you wanted terninal only
[08:00] <damccull> Tex_Nick: np :)
[08:02] <damccull> Tex_Nick: i have often thought about installing xorg on the server and forwarding programs to my copmuter...
[08:02] <wafflejock> damccull: right yeah I follow, aside from making a group for those users and giving the directory ownership to that group you don't have a way to directly say this user has permission
[08:02] <damccull> but i don't know how to...or how well it would perform
[08:02] <damccull> wafflejock: :( Linux should add that
[08:03] <damccull> HEH scping a huge git repo takes way longer than just cloning it again
[08:06] <wafflejock> damccull: think maybe you can do what you want but just isn't the default https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs
[08:07] <damccull> ooooh
[08:10] <wafflejock> damccull: GUI too if you can get your X over the wire http://rofi.roger-ferrer.org/eiciel/?s=5
[08:10] <damccull> woo
[08:10] <wafflejock> yeah ooh ahhh :)
[08:11] <damccull> i wonder if I could even do it on such a small server
[08:11] <wafflejock> I haven't messed with this but am interested in AD alternatives
[08:11] <damccull> hmmm
[08:12] <damccull> wafflejock: https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_AD_DC_HOWTO
[08:12] <wafflejock> I think AD and exchange are two things that keep people locked into the windows server ecosystem
[08:12] <damccull> and MS office
[08:12] <wafflejock> postfix is alright but doesn't cover everything exchange does with regard to calendar sharing
[08:12] <wafflejock> I think MS office isn't as big a deal with Google Docs and LibreOffice
[08:13] <damccull> neither gdocs nor libreoffice truly compete :(
[08:13] <damccull> gdocs is less
[08:13] <wafflejock> yeah it depends on the use case
[08:13] <damccull> and libre is ugly
[08:13] <cfhowlett> wafflejock, I suspect msoft is equally concerned.
[08:13] <damccull> and users are like "EWW 1970s!"
[08:14] <cfhowlett> wafflejock, the ONE thing that users seems to fixate on is the MS Outlook integration with the suite and ease of use/familiarity
[08:14] <damccull> i hate outlook
[08:14] <damccull> give me gmail every da
[08:14] <damccull> y
[08:14] <wafflejock> cfhowlett: yeah I've been using Thunderbird and it's pretty good but like damccull is saying about the looks it just isn't there
[08:15] <cfhowlett> outlook is in the corporate blood.
[08:15] <wafflejock> still requires someone willing to tweak things and add plugins to do the same stuff, but can do a bit more it seems
[08:15] <wafflejock> yeah
[08:16] <damccull> the advantage MS has over linux, and always will, is a single, unified brand. They can integrate everything with everything else, make it work out of the box, and transparently to users. It's like the Apple of OS/Office
[08:16] <damccull> too bad they can't seem to get IE right
[08:16] <wafflejock> eh I dunno I really think Linux distros are getting better and better at creating a complete experience
[08:17] <wafflejock> I just switched between Unity on 12.04 and the Kubuntu using all the KDE stuff in 12.04 and now in Gnome on 14.04 and have played with Mint and some other distros/DEs and there's some pretty complete toolsets
[08:17] <damccull> they are, but they are still using programs written by 3rd parties, or having to write their own. Their teams, being much smaller, take much longer to write quality software that is super integrated
[08:17] <wafflejock> yeah it takes a long time but it's been like 22 years or something
[08:18] <damccull> haha
[08:18] <cfhowlett> damccull, that's the linux/unix development mantra ... each tool does ONE thing and does ONE thing well.  kind of works AGAINST any meaningful/workable integration.
[08:19] <damccull> cfhowlett: i know :( but users generally don't want that. They want to click, drag, and copy/paste from anything to anything
[08:19] <wafflejock> cfhowlett: yeah but I don't think that's a problem we have lots of little tools that do one thing and do it well and if GUIs are built to wrap those tools that do one thing well together then you have outlook
[08:19] <wafflejock> Outlook started off as 4 separate applications in MS
[08:19] <wafflejock> they just smashed them together
[08:19] <damccull> i want libreoffice to look pretty like MS office, be completely integrated, and NOT HAVE OUTLOOK
[08:19] <damccull> god i hate outlook
[08:20] <damccull> it pisses me off that you HAVE to install it with office 2013
[08:20] <wafflejock> that's pretty funny I don't think I've met someone who hates outlook so much, I always thought it was fine but I haven't used any of the recent versions
[08:21] <damccull> here's my linux wishlist: I want all my games native, ms office native (no outlook), and a super-quick snappy UI that looks REAL sharp and isn't hard to get to know or understand. it must be simple and elegant, but give me the tweak power I want under the hood.
[08:22] <wafflejock> cfhowlett: I have hopes that Qt or something like it will help to make building widgets that can be integrated into larger applications so we can more easily share and create robust GUIs using all the little underlying parts
[08:22] <damccull> wafflejock: lol yeah it's cause it's bloated, slow, ugly, and until VERY recently, did not organize my conversations
[08:22] <damccull> wafflejock: also i only use the 1 part of it: email
[08:23] <wafflejock> damccull: yeah it is kind of a heavy beast for email, though all the e-mail clients I've run are pretty heavy duty in terms of memory usage
[08:23] <Ben64> this probably belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:23] <damccull> wafflejock: gmail is very light
[08:23] <damccull> ther's an offtopic channel?
[08:23] <wafflejock> damccull: yeah we can move the conversation there this should just be support, I just got chatty
[08:23] <Ben64> indeed there is
[08:24] <damccull> crazy
[08:24] <wafflejock> !ot
[08:24] <damccull> well i need to sleep anways SO
[08:24] <damccull> i will just stop instead :D
[08:24] <wafflejock> damccull: cool have a good one
[08:24] <damccull> you too thanks for hte help
[08:24] <atmosx> can I lock users from installing software?
[08:24] <damccull> and conversation
[08:25] <cfhowlett> atmosx, no need to lock.  unless your user has sudo privilege, no installing software is permitted
[08:25] <atmosx> cfhowlett: okay
[08:25] <Ben64> although that doesn't stop them from bringing or making their own binaries
[08:26] <atmosx> Ben64: hm, that's not an issue. They can't tell a windows from a linux laptop. It's just 2 installation for an office, windows 8 was kinda hard to come by (for avg users).
[08:26] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett: re : 'that's the linux/unix development mantra ... each tool does ONE thing and does ONE thing well' ... hey what's deal with 'systemd' ?
[08:27] <cfhowlett> Tex_Nick, don't put me on the spot!   :)
[08:27] <Tex_Nick> lol sorry sir ;)
[08:28] <cfhowlett> Tex_Nick, eeeeh, no you're not.  But, it's OK.
[08:29] <damccull> one more quesiton before i go...how to add user to sudoers? also, where does "this incident" get "reported" to when you're not in it?
[08:29] <atmosx> damccull: root's email. You should set an alias from your admin to your user.
[08:30] <damccull> atmosx: what you mean by alias?
[08:30] <atmosx> damccull: well, you must have a sendmail-like system in your server
[08:31] <damccull> probably. I see what you're saying. It's just me on the server, no other, and I don't know how to read the mail anyway s:D
[08:31] <atmosx> damccull: this sends email, instead of sending emails to user 'root', you could re-direct the emails to your a predefined user using aliases
[08:31] <atmosx> lol
[08:31] <atmosx> it's your server?
[08:31] <damccull> yes
[08:31] <atmosx> apt-get install mutt
[08:31] <atmosx> sudo su -
[08:31] <atmosx> mutt
[08:32] <atmosx> hm, that goes better as: sudo su - ...then apt-get install mutt && mutt
[08:32] <atmosx> or just type 'mail'
[08:32] <atmosx> thse HDD laptops are slow to death
[08:33] <damccull> why sudo su - instead of sudo install?
[08:34] <wafflejock> atmosx: yeah after SSD HDD feels like molasses
[08:34] <wafflejock> damccull: thanks for the AD Samba link too just browsing through it now
[08:35] <damccull> wafflejock: np. i remember reading about that like a year ago in some obscure place or other. never thought I'd need it :D
[08:36] <wafflejock> damccull: yeah would be good for a non-profit I do some IT work for that is currently paying way too much for a remote IIS server for exchange and has a DC in house that is going to die one of these days
[08:37] <atmosx> Now I want the admin to have the menu in English, becuase it's easier while the users (2 of them) need Gnome translation Greek. Do I enter their accounts and just switch language?
[08:37] <damccull> does git-svn need subversion installed?
[08:38] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett: I loved the mantra you phrased 'One Tool does One Thing Well' ... my concern is that 'systemd' is about to combine all those simple tools into a single Monolithic tool :(
[08:38] <atmosx> damccull: nope, but you're making this kind of question you're in the wrong distribution :-) SVN is a dependancy in order to be able to convert SVN repos to git
[08:38] <atmosx> IIRC git can read svn repos
[08:39] <damccull> HEH sorry I clicked the #git channel but i guess i didn't click hard enough
[08:39] <wafflejock> Tex_Nick: any resources I can check out about what you're saying about systemd rolling things together?
[08:40] <damccull> doesn't busybox already roll everything together?
[08:40] <wafflejock> Tex_Nick: just did some googling but it only looks like it combines two tools from what I can see on the surface at least
[08:40] <Tex_Nick> wafflejock: give me a minute or two ... brb
[08:42] <Tex_Nick> http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/systemd-harbinger-of-the-linux-apocalypse-248436 ... two pages
[08:42] <wafflejock> ah found a "cheat sheet" with a few others, but doesn't seem like a big deal really the things are all related to startup or shutdown of the system or services
[08:42] <wafflejock> reading...
[08:42] <Tex_Nick> http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/you-have-your-windows-in-my-linux-249483
[08:43] <Tex_Nick> http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/its-time-split-linux-in-two-249704
[08:44] <Tex_Nick> http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/choose-your-side-the-linux-divide-248950
[08:44] <Tex_Nick> wafflejock: those are all InfoWorld articles
[08:45] <samthewildone> How do I remove a | uninstall a .run file and its packages...
[08:45] <samthewildone> I recently downloaded a .run from hp..open source and the drivers didn't work.
[08:46] <samthewildone> I did the "file name.run --help" but there isn't a removal option.
[08:47] <damccull> wtf is a .run?
[08:48] <wafflejock> damccull: sometimes vendors package scripts and give them a .run extension
[08:48] <wafflejock> damccull: nvidia does the same
[08:48] <damccull> werid
[08:48] <wafflejock> samthewildone: not sure you'd have to check out the README with the run file, for HP though I used mostly their open source stuff and it worked I just needed a script from HP for wireless scanning
[08:49] <samthewildone> damccull, windows equivalent to .exe
[08:49] <samthewildone> wafflejock, problem is I'm just connected my printer to my router but, router does not show printer in the devices configuration.
[08:50] <wafflejock> samthewildone: hmm strange typically the hplip package has all the stuff needed for wired printing
[08:50] <samthewildone> Printer works fine with direct connection to computer but, not when it is connected to the router. I contacted HP and they said pretty much all plug in play printers work with their EA6300 model.
[08:50] <damccull> samthewildone: so a .run is a binary file with a program entry point?
[08:50] <atmosx> Easiest way to connect to an Ubuntu computer remotely using a mac? :-)
[08:50] <samthewildone> damccull, something like that.
[08:50] <damccull> dumb
[08:50] <damccull> needs to be an exe then ;)
[08:51] <damccull> everyone knows what exe is
[08:51] <samthewildone> damccull, to uninstall that binary file they usually have a param like "--uninstall | --remove"
[08:51] <samthewildone> I know the nvidia installer has the function.
[08:52] <samthewildone> wafflejock, Again, once the printer is connect directly to computer, works like a charm. Once its connected directly to router its a ghost.
[08:52] <wafflejock> samthewildone: yeah not sure about the router based printing, I have the option on my router but I got a wireless printer anyhow so never used it
[08:52] <samthewildone> Earlier people were telling me that in order for this to work the printer has to be assigned a address.
[08:53] <wafflejock> samthewildone: probably not if it's being used via the USB on the router
[08:53] <wafflejock> it should be like a shared printer from the router
[08:53] <samthewildone> wafflejock, yeah...
[08:53] <samthewildone> wafflejock, that's what I thought. Once the router verified the printer it will automatically append the MAC / IP address.
[08:53] <samthewildone> So probably could be the cable ?
[08:54] <wafflejock> no idea really on that one... can you ssh into the router and check lsusb
[08:54] <samthewildone> nope
[08:54] <samthewildone> I don't even fully understand ssh yet.
[08:54] <samthewildone> why would I ssh into router ?
[08:55] <wafflejock> well if you ssh in then you can run lsusb and see the USB connected devices
[08:55] <wafflejock> yea dunno then... I went with a DDWRT based buffalo router last time in case I wanted to mess with that stuff but so far have just been happy with how it works :)
[08:55] <wafflejock> DDWRT has the option for SSHing in but I don't think it's a standard thing on home routers
[08:55] <samthewildone> ah Ha
[08:55] <samthewildone> found the uninstaller !
[08:55] <samthewildone> it was "hp-uninstall"
[08:55] <wafflejock> ah nice
[08:56] <samthewildone> reason I'm uninstalling, ubuntu has one in their software repo.
[08:56] <Ben64> should always check there first :)
[08:56] <wafflejock> yeah there is a hplip package for basic stuff and some hp toolbox gui parts
[08:56] <samthewildone> Ben64, now... I figured that out my friend.
[08:56] <samthewildone> First things first is I gotta figure out whats going on with the connection.
[08:57] <samthewildone> I think the only sensible thing to do is reset the router to fact default and try from there ?
[08:57] <wafflejock> samthewildone: yeah would need the manual for the router to help remotely any more I think
[08:58] <samthewildone> completely unrelated atm but, http://pastebin.com/KhfmBPcU
[08:58] <samthewildone> figured to post it to my account as archive...
[08:59] <Fuchs> hmm, any idea why lightdm would not display my prefered language / keyboard layout? It only displays de_DE, but I want ch (de_CH).  The local is there and generated, every application is perfectly fine with it, only lightdm not.
[08:59] <samthewildone> If I'm going to reset the router I'm going to have to wait later in the day.
[09:00] <samthewildone> wafflejock, another problem I'm having is that my desktop does not show up in the router config.
[09:00] <samthewildone> Everything else in the house connected; except printer & my desktop, shows...
[09:00] <wafflejock> samthewildone: that's strange you mean you don't see it in the DHCP list?
[09:00] <samthewildone> nope
[09:00] <samthewildone> So thinking that the router must be reset anyway.
[09:00] <samthewildone> I'm able to see other wifi devices and my dad's hardline cable connected but, not mine.
[09:01] <wafflejock> yea assuming you didn't set any static IPs it should generally be in the list
[09:01] <samthewildone> At first I thought it was because I had encrypted my drive.
[09:01] <wafflejock> yeah shouldn't matter regarding the network/IPs though
[09:01] <wafflejock> the router should know what addresses it gave out
[09:02] <atmosx> I can create users without passwords! Awesome.
[09:02] <samthewildone> wafflejock, Yeah once the house is cleared of rodents (parents) I'll commit the hard reset.
[09:02] <samthewildone> atmosx, one kernel mod for you !
[09:02]  * samthewildone passes atmosx a tasty kernel mod.
[09:03] <damccull> a way to copy and chown at the same time?
[09:03] <samthewildone> wafflejock, I'm wondering though, should I install the drivers first or let the default ubuntu drivers do the work.
[09:04] <samthewildone> I'm probably going to let the default drivers take over.
[09:04] <wafflejock> samthewildone: would go with the default drivers at first unless they lack some capability should be fine for all the "wired" stuff
[09:04] <atmosx> samthewildone: was a kernel model that made this possible? :-) smart move
[09:04] <wafflejock> samthewildone: I only had issues when I wanted to wirelessly scan
[09:04] <samthewildone> this printer does not scan...
[09:04] <wafflejock> should be fine then
[09:04] <samthewildone> LaserJet 1022
[09:04] <samthewildone> :|
[09:05] <Madeline23>  Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://tinyurl.com/ozfvxy3
[09:05] <wafflejock> yeah the HP laserjets can last a long time... we had LaserJet 5s that were like 10 years old at Wrigley
[09:05] <Tex_Nick> Fuchs: about a year ago I had a similar issue as you I think ... see if this concerns your issue ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/92297/how-do-i-set-the-login-manager-to-enable-change-languages-at-login
[09:05] <atmosx> can I somehow launch firefox right after a user logs in?
[09:05] <Fuchs> Tex_Nick: it doesn't.
[09:05] <Fuchs> Tex_Nick: I do have the language selector, it just doesn't list the layout I want
[09:06] <wafflejock> atmosx: you can add it to startup applications
[09:06] <Fuchs> (which is installed and works everywhere, just not there)
[09:06] <atmosx> yeah I'm on it, thanks wafflejock :-)
[09:06] <samthewildone> atmosx, yes
[09:07] <samthewildone> atmosx, if you like scripting or automation, check out my small little script for updating ubuntu. > http://pastebin.com/XiaJzKcS
[09:07] <samthewildone> nothing fancy but, a one command which does all updating/upgrading all cleaning.
[09:07] <atmosx> samthewildone: cool :-)
[09:07] <wafflejock> Tex_Nick: regarding the systemd stuff it seems like a lot of hype over mostly nothing to me
[09:08] <samthewildone> atmosx, use the "#" to remove the clean history option. A lot of people bashed me for that...
[09:08] <Ben64> not sure why that script is even necessary
[09:08] <samthewildone> Ben64, wanted to learn some scripting.
[09:08] <samthewildone> Ben64, also my old man needed it.
[09:09] <samthewildone> all he does it apt2update.sh and pretty much rest is history.
[09:09] <Tex_Nick> Fuchs: I wanted es-mx language (Mexican Spanish) I had to jump through a few hoops to get it loaded ... don't remember exactly hat the process was
[09:09] <samthewildone> was learning some error checking.
[09:10] <wafflejock> Tex_Nick: from what I see of actual commands that it replaces it seems pretty small, it's not like systemd is now ssh or apache or pulseaudio or alsa or any of the things I actually personally use
[09:12] <mark__> I'm having trouble with the MBR after installing ubuntu. Error attempt to read or write outside of disk hd0.
[09:12] <mark__> Can anyone help me with this?
[09:13] <wafflejock> mark__: haven't experienced it myself but google says http://askubuntu.com/questions/397485/what-to-do-when-i-get-an-attempt-to-read-or-write-outside-of-disk-hd0-error
[09:13] <Tex_Nick> wafflejock: yeah it's kinda diversly debated atm ... has good side as well as a dark side ... torvalds as well as other key maintainers are debating the issue
[09:15] <mark__> wafflejock: I've tried a lot of google solutions haha.
[09:15] <mark__> Thanks though
[09:16] <Aison> hello, is there a good UFW manual out there? I search for more detailed explenations for before.rules, after.rules, config files
[09:17] <Aison> eg. what means the [0:0]
[09:20] <smart_developer> I was able to get logrotate to rotate my_log.log just fine (at the top of the hour), but it seems that my new (fresh, 0 Bytes) my_log.log isn't being written to.
[09:20] <smart_developer> I'm using rsyslog to direct log output to my_log.log.
[09:20] <smart_developer> Does anyone know what is going wrong here? Thanks.
[09:20] <ikonia> smart_developer: depends how you are logrotating the physical file
[09:21] <ikonia> smart_developer: if the file is closed, you'd need to hup syslog
[09:21] <smart_developer> hup syslog ?
[09:22] <smart_developer> and what do you mean "if the file is closed"?
[09:22] <ikonia> smart_developer: if you zero an open file syslog will keep logging, if you close and replace a file, syslog can't log to it as it's not opened by syslog
[09:23] <smart_developer> I'm using rsyslog to direct output to my_log.log, not syslog.
[09:23] <ikonia> I know
[09:23] <ikonia> please read what I said
[09:23] <wafflejock> Tex_Nick: yeah I've heard chatter about this thanks for the links
[09:23] <smart_developer> O
[09:24] <smart_developer> that O was a typo.
[09:24] <smart_developer> What I'm trying to say is that I'm confused because you kept mentioning syslog.
[09:24] <ikonia> syslog is the process that logs system messages
[09:24] <smart_developer> then what's rsyslog?
[09:24] <smart_developer> in relation to all of this.
[09:24] <smart_developer> thanks.
[09:24] <ikonia> rsyslog is the binary
[09:25] <smart_developer> So how would you "hup" syslog ?
[09:25] <smart_developer> and what do you mean by hup?
[09:25] <smart_developer> Let me post a link to my logrotate file for my_log.log.
[09:25] <ikonia> don't bother
[09:26] <ikonia> you ned to restart rsyslog
[09:26] <ikonia> normally this is part of the logrotate definition
[09:27] <smart_developer> From the man pages for logrotate, I'm not sure where in this logrotate definition file I would specify restarting rsyslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8349201/
[09:27] <ikonia> smart_developer: then read the docs
[09:27] <smart_developer> (more specifically, what I would type there).
[09:28] <ikonia> first manually restart the syslog to prove it works/that is the problem
[09:28] <smart_developer> ok
[09:28] <ikonia> then read the logrotate docs about restarting a service as part of the definition
[09:29] <smart_developer> other than the man pages (which I've already read most of), which docs would you be referring to?
[09:29] <ikonia> the project documentation
[09:29] <smart_developer> ok
[09:30] <smart_developer> And also, I'm not sure about this approach of restarting rsyslog each time logrotate rotates my_log.log, since I don't know what impact it would have on the other logs (for instance, the system logs)....
[09:30] <smart_developer> would it fail to write some important log output while rsyslog is being restarted?
[09:31] <smart_developer> during that (brief) period of time...?
[09:31] <smart_developer> and if so, is there a more prudent method?
[09:31] <smart_developer> of rotating a log
[09:31] <ikonia> it will have the same impact
[09:32] <smart_developer> ikonia : okay, I see.
[09:32] <smart_developer> you mentioned something about how just zero-ing out a log would allow rsyslog to keep writing to it, without having to restart rsyslog.
[09:32] <ikonia> I think you need to read the documentation
[09:33] <smart_developer> Should I do this with logrotate?
[09:33] <ikonia> you appear to be trying to do this without the information
[09:35] <smart_developer> I'm reading them right now.
[09:37] <no_gravity> Good Morning! Whats a good way to make scanning available on ubuntu? Gimp doesn't show a menu item for it by default.
[09:38] <samthewildone> I think I'm broken.
[09:38] <samthewildone> I cannot sleep anymore.
[09:39] <samthewildone> Its 5:40am and I'm tired but... not really
[09:39] <ikonia> think you're in the wrong channel
[09:39] <ikonia> try #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:39] <samthewildone> wrong channel
[09:40] <smart_developer> ikonia : So I believe the configuration you're referring to is 'copytruncate', to zero out & continue writing to the log, without having to restart rsyslog?
[09:43] <smart_developer> (the logrotate configuration)
[09:44] <ikonia> smart_developer: I've not got the docs in front of me, that's why I suggested you read the docs
[09:45] <jj---> helloo i have the following problem while connecting on a huawei e353 modem http://pastebin.com/sHLjzf2Q
[09:45] <jj---> disconnects on connect
[09:45] <jj---> modemswitch etc ok
[09:45] <jj---> eh modeswitch
[09:46] <ikonia> jj---: please santisse your pastes from bad language if you want people to help
[09:47] <jj---> ikonia: :-(
[09:48] <jj---> ikonia: the computer is aptly named after all the trouble ubutuntu installation has caused on it
[09:48] <Vladimir_> I don't know where to ask so I'll ask here about snmp for scientific linux?
[09:48] <ikonia> Vladimir_: not here
[09:48] <Vladimir_> ok
[09:49] <ikonia> jj---: again, please sanitise your posts before sharing with the channel
[10:13] <muculus> I want to provide a public repository of ubuntu, what is your approximation for server specifications(such as hard disk, ram and cpu)?
[10:13] <muculus> for all architeture
[10:13] <ikonia> muculus: it's listed on the mirrors page
[10:14] <muculus> ikonia: can you give its url?
[10:14] <ikonia> no
[10:14] <ikonia> I'm sure you can search the ubuntu doccs on becoming a mirror
[10:18] <rwsq1> I want to install ubuntu-server with software RAID and LVM. Is the correct procedure to create partitions for RAID on each drive, create the RAID device and then use that as a physical volume for LVM upon which to create a VG and LVs?
[10:18] <ikonia> rwsq1: perfect
[10:18] <rwsq1> if so, I'm stuck because it fails to install the system when I do that
[10:18] <rwsq1> ikonia, I thought I was right, but I was also hoping to be wrong
[10:47] <MiaoleGemi> In the same one LAN, why I can ping my Ubuntu, but I can't login in by ssh?
[10:48] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:59] <palci> Hi. Can someone help me with my laptop please?
[11:01] <Slart_> palci: just ask your question, if someone knows the answer they will hopefully answer
[11:01] <palci> My ubuntu freeze when I dont move with mouse / type any key. Video and sound freeze in loop.
[11:02] <palci> I tried reinstall ubuntu or install drivers but it wont help
[11:02] <nomic> does caps lock key still work
[11:02] <nomic> ie.  . is completely rfrozen
[11:02] <Slart_> if this was 15 years ago I would say it's a problem with interrupts... but not now
[11:03] <nomic> video on what
[11:03] <nomic> chrome / firefox -- what
[11:03] <palci> everything. Flash videos, Music palyer (audacious..)
[11:04] <nomic> since when -- have you always had the problem
[11:04] <Monkey_b> hey guys, i have a virtualbox with a service listening on port 7474 (verified this via netstat --listen), that doesn't respond to telnets from the host machine... other services (ssh, web, etc) respond, but not this one
[11:04] <Monkey_b> any thoughts?
[11:04] <nomic> moneyb : firewall
[11:04] <nomic> either on router or buntu
[11:04] <Monkey_b> nomic: its internal though, i dont have any software firewalls to my knowledge
[11:04] <nomic> if you haven't set one up on ubuntu it won't be that
[11:05] <Monkey_b> yea its mistifying me heh
[11:05] <palci> Since i changed old Pentium Dual Core for Core 2 Duo... Windows works properly
[11:05] <nomic> is telnet installed .. server
[11:05] <Monkey_b> yes, i can telnet to other ports
[11:05] <Monkey_b> i suppose i'll try to nmap it real quick see what shows up
[11:05] <Monkey_b> maybe i get a hint
[11:06] <nomic> why use that port
[11:06] <Monkey_b> its neo4j's (db) default port
[11:06] <nomic> palci -- check that there are no "hardware drivers" to install
[11:06] <nomic> you maybe need pinhole on router
[11:07] <Monkey_b> nmap from host box only shows listening on port 22/80/443... that's suspicious lol
[11:07] <Monkey_b> far too perfect i think
[11:07] <nomic> routers will not allow ports by default
[11:07] <Monkey_b> there must be iptables or something at play
[11:07] <ikonia> forget nmap
[11:07] <ikonia> unless you know how to use nmap - it can be missleading
[11:08] <Monkey_b> ok
[11:08] <Monkey_b> i dont know if its worth mentioning the machine in question is a vagrant ubuntu64
[11:08] <nomic> vagrant?
[11:08] <Monkey_b> i suppose i'll ask the vagrant guys if the setup blocks ports by default
[11:08] <nomic> it lives in a cardboard box?
[11:09] <Monkey_b> well, for agility of deployment yes :P
[11:09] <ikonia> ughh vagrant, this explains a lot
[11:10] <TJ-> Monkey_b: Is the service listening on all interfaces (0.0.0.0) or an external interface (not 127.*) ?
[11:10] <Monkey_b> mmm TJ- thats an excellent question
[11:11] <Monkey_b> does netstat tell me or what might be a way to find that out
[11:12] <TJ-> Monkey_b: netstat shows the listening address; use "-n" to ensure you see numbers not names
[11:13] <pophorn>  how can i get the midi signal ? could someone knows a page about it ??
[11:14] <calimero_82> hello
[11:14] <calimero_82> i'm not able to open iso in lubuntu 14.04
[11:15] <calimero_82> thanks
[11:15] <palci> nomic -- i didnt find any drivers for my laptop
[11:15] <wafflejock> calimero_82: what do you mean by open the iso are you trying to mount it so you can browse it or are you just trying to burn it?
[11:16] <calimero_82> hi wafflejock, i try to mount it
[11:17] <TJ-> calimero_82: "sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop path/to/file.iso /path/to/mountpoint"
[11:19] <Monkey_b> TJ-: seems like its listening to ::::* not 0.0.0.0:*
[11:19] <TJ-> Monkey_b: Only on IPv6
[11:20] <Monkey_b> you mean that's the ipv6 equivalent of 0.0.0.0:* ?
[11:20] <TJ-> Monkey_b: Yes.
[11:21] <calimero_82> tj i've done this but it says: it's protected
[11:21] <TJ-> calimero_82: Please show us the exact results, possibly via !pastebin, so we have more context
[11:24] <JediMaster> 59
[11:24] <JediMaster> meh wrong channel =)
[11:24] <calimero_82> tj it's in italian, it's the same?
[11:25] <calimero_82> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8349646/ tj
[11:25] <Monkey_b> TJ-: so then am i to take it that the service is listening correctly and *should* be responding?
[11:26] <smart_developer> What's the most generic/default curl command to try out on a server/machine to see whether curl is working or not ?
[11:26] <smart_developer> as a test.
[11:26] <TJ-> calimero_82: You've mistyped the command
[11:27] <TJ-> calimero_82: "sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop  ..."
[11:29] <TJ-> calimero_82: apologies; I misread. mount is giving you a warning and telling you how to check for kernel error messages, so do "dmesg | tail" and see if there is anything relevant
[11:34] <calimero_82> tj http://paste.ubuntu.com/8349877/ so what should i do now?
[11:36] <TJ-> calimero_82: Apparent the ISO isn't an ISO. Try "file /home/fabiomirko/Scaricati/The sims 3.Original/simzz/thesims3.iso"
[11:37] <calimero_82> one moment i have to go to launch
[11:40] <pinky_> morning
[11:45] <Ttaumatizer> Yo Ubuntu Installation just broke My entire pc. In typing This from mobile hope somebody can help. I was installing Ubuntu from USB when it said installation had failed and it aborted. Than when I rebooted my old installation was already half overwritten and it doesn't work, strange thing is when ai try to boot from an USB drive it days: 'boot error' and I can't boot from a live cd either anymore! What doo?
[11:49] <TJ-> Ttaumatizer: Check PC's firmware/BIOS settings, especially options related to boot device selection and boot options
[11:50] <uburuntu> Hi all. I don't see any trace of wireless on my laptop (Lenovo Ideapad). Recently installed Ubuntu 14.04
[11:50] <uburuntu> Help me debug?
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Ttaumatizer, how do you know your old install is half over written, sounds to me like grub needs reinstalling, try a live-usb iso called boot-repair, and make sure your boot order in the uefi/bios accommodates whatever drive you want to boot first in the boot sequence.
[11:53] <BluesKaj> uburuntu, alt+F2, network manager, check if your wifi is available
[11:53] <k1l> uburuntu: please pastebin the output of "rfkill list"
[11:56] <uburuntu> k1l: http://pastebin.com/Zpt65wXM something is there :)
[11:57] <uburuntu> BluesKaj: I tried looking in ifconfig, ip addr, iwconfig, etc.
[11:58] <BluesKaj> uburuntu, launch network manager, to check your wifi status
[12:00] <AeroNotix> hi, I've installed ubuntu 13.10 on a macbook. Most things are fine except for the fact that the tos link audio output is permanently enabled. I've tried to disable it in alsamixer etc and it is marked as muted but it still won't turn off.
[12:02] <minimec> uburuntu: Looks like people with similar hardware tend to 'blacklist' a module called "ideapad_laptop" to solve wifi problems. Worth a try I guess... https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Idea-Windows-based-Tablets-and/Wifi-is-hardware-disabled/td-p/1307405
[12:02] <Skizu> Get on every command I get <?php at the beginning any idea where this has come from?
[12:03] <uburuntu> sorry update: not ideapad but yoga 11
[12:03] <Ttaumatizer> BLUEkasj thanks that fixed it.
[12:03] <jpds> Skizu: Done a 'reset' ?
[12:03] <Skizu> jpds: yeah
[12:03] <Skizu> jpds: I'll do another to make sure :p
[12:03] <uburuntu> minimec: Yes I came across something similar. I'll try that
[12:05] <Skizu> jpds: I think it maybe an issue with php/apache, I'd get support for that here or ?
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Ttaumatizer, did you reinstall grub ?
[12:08] <Sexy_Woman> hello
[12:08] <Sexy_Woman> why want skype sex with me?
[12:09] <DJones> Sexy_Woman: Nope, this isn't the channel or network for that
[12:13] <Monkey_b> TJ-: basically it was iptables and im an idiot for not checking sooner... i was convinced there was no iptables and didn't actually check
[12:13]  * Monkey_b slaps himself real hard
[12:13]  * BluesKaj wonders makes ppl think this is a sex chat ? :)
[12:14] <davidg> hi all, i am using ubuntu 14.10 and i have problems with the wifi connection. It sometimes drops my wifi connection out and i have to reboot to connect again. Is there any forum where i can report this bug?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> davidg, join #ubuntu+1 for 14.10 support
[12:15] <DJones> davidg: Probably best joining #ubuntu+1 and asking there, thats the support channel for the development version before release, people there will probably be better able to point you in the right direction
[12:16] <davidg> DJones : thanks
[12:16] <davidg> will do it
[12:17] <mark__> MBR issue, I've got a master boot not recognising anything. It comes up with 5 partitions all GPT if I ls them, and a message saying that it's unable to read or write to HD0. Anyone got any ideas? If I LS into  the one gpt that it says it can read, I get a linux structure with a boot dir, but it's empty
[12:18] <BluesKaj> !UEFI | mark__
[12:20] <TJ-> mark__: Is this the system with 50+ drives?
[12:20] <mark__> TJ hi Tj
[12:20] <mark__> TJ yes it is, sorry I had to run on Friday.. was getting kicked out of the office.
[12:21] <mark__> TJ I noticed that I was able to LS into one GPT and it lists everything but has an empty boot folder
[12:22] <TJ-> mark__: I think the last thing I said just after you left was, you need to boot the system from a Live ISO, or removable boot device of some kind, so we have some tools available
[12:23] <mark__> I can do that easily TJ, I'll get it booted up
[12:23] <stevenm__> Does anyone know where I can download the Ubuntu Picto pack?
[12:24] <BluesKaj> heh, mark__ you could have mentioned the 50 drives, that changes the game completely :)
[12:25] <mark__> BluesKaj, sorry it slipped my mind.
[12:25] <mark__> BluesKaj (they're raided together, and act like one anyway).
[12:26] <TJ-> mark__: Is it a hardware storage array, if so, how is it connected?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> that seems chancy, mark__, must have a huge backup
[12:27] <mark__> TJ: Not too sure how you mean? I Didn't set the server up originally, I'm just trying to change it's OS
[12:28] <mark__> live disk in
[12:28] <mark__> TJ: live disc is now running
[12:29] <mark__> TJ: I think it's worth mentioning that this server is not connected to the outside world, and nor can it be.
[12:30] <Aussie_matt> Can anyone tell me, if i get a new cpu without hyperthreading, will I notice it for normal desktop use/email/browsing?
[12:33] <wheatthin> Aussie_matt, Umm depends.. I have a dual quad core xeon that does just fine without hyperthreading
[12:33] <zomGreg-m> Aussie_matt: Likely not.
[12:33] <wafflejock> Aussie_matt: probably not a huge deal I've turned it on and off on my desktop quadcore (pretty old but 3.0GHz) and it doesn't matter much
[12:34] <michael_> hi ppl
[12:34] <Aussie_matt> the reason I ask, I'm looking at lashing out on the new pentium 3258 which can be overclocked, but it has no hyperthreading....so I'm not sure how it'll go in linux: in windows gaming it's great they reckon
[12:35] <wheatthin> Aussie_matt, then you shouldn't have any problems.. any problems I'd think you'd run into are thermal
[12:35] <Aussie_matt> wheatthin: financial more like it :)
[12:35] <wafflejock> Aussie_matt: yeah really should be fine, the HDD is typically the slowest part of the system CPU is only gonna be maxed out when playing games or compiling large programs (or running some poorly written flash)
[12:36] <Aussie_matt> wheatthin: you make a good point
[12:36] <BluesKaj> overclocking used to be effective many yrs ago, nowadays ppl barely notice ant difference except that things get much hotter
[12:36] <Aussie_matt> wafflejock: you make a good point
[12:38] <michael_> the question is what benefit do you thing you are going to get from over clocking your linux desktop
[12:38] <sandman13> Does disabling Secure Boot and UEFI help in installing Ubuntu in a laptop with Windows 8.1 preinstalled?
[12:38] <Aussie_matt> my old e2200 is starting to get pretty grumpy with a few tabs open
[12:38] <Aussie_matt> michael_: I'll feel empowered lol
[12:39] <michael_> i have a i7 980x it usually utilises about 8 % never been able to max it out
[12:41] <GPenguin> with ubuntu 14.04 server i installed tcl8.6(-dev), 85 and 8.4 and none of them contains libtcl.so what can be the problem?
[12:42] <mark__> TJ: thanks for the help, but I think I've got it
[12:42] <Aussie_matt> michael_: Yeah, I also have a XPS13DE i5, and that thing is pretty cool
[12:42] <mark__> TJ: only took me a good 8 hours to get the damn thing to boot, but it's there with a UI
[12:42] <Pici> GPenguin: look into the tcl-dev package.
[12:42] <mark__> TJ: Thanks for the help.
[12:42] <michael_> i find most applications are not able to handle the amount of cores
[12:43] <Aussie_matt> well this pentium is only a two core
[12:46] <Vladimir_> Is it possible to copy-paste from a windows server into a VIM editor (inside a vmware machine on that windows server) ?
[12:46] <hillary> any body to help me? my broadband modem model E1750 cannot connect using ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[12:47] <Hammerhead2011-S> anyone using the display ports on a laptop to run more than one 4k display?
[12:47] <hillary> It used to work well untill i used another from orange network
[12:47] <prawny> hey guys, i bought one of those cheap korean wqhd monitors, but my trusty installation does not seem to like it at all. i can only drive it at 800x600, but the monitor doesn't even display that, it just stays on stand by. I've got an nVidia GTX 570, which is supposed to have dual link on both dvi ports and i'm using the included dual link dvi cable. qrandr output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8350215/
[12:48] <prawny> Hammerhead2011-S out of curiosity: how would you do that physically? daisy chaining or one of those splitters?
[12:48] <drmagoo> hillary: http://giorgio-ferrara.blogspot.se/2010/08/how-to-get-huawei-e1750-usb-modem.html
[12:49] <hillary> ok let me check
[12:49] <Hammerhead2011-S> prawny > yes, display port daisy chain
[12:49] <Hammerhead2011-S> Support was supposed to be in the 3.17-rc1 but I have not been able to get it working.
[12:49] <check3r> how to disable window effects (fading)?
[12:50] <hillary> can i upgrade from ubuntu 12.04LTS to 14.04 LTS without Losing my files?
[12:50] <prawny> i don't have much experience with 4k except for my laptop screen, i am just now getting a first wqhd screen. 2poor4u
[12:51] <drmagoo> hillary: you should be able to do that. "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[12:51] <michael_> hillary what do you mean about losing your files ?
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[12:52]  * anna-len nyGPmg Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ jqxILk 
[12:52]  * gupi nyGPmg Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ jqxILk 
[12:52]  * hongtao nyGPmg Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ jqxILk 
[12:52]  * audie nyGPmg Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ jqxILk 
[12:52] <cfhowlett> !ops
[12:52] <prawny> pls.
[12:53] <White_Cat> what is a quran?
[12:53] <minimec> prawny: verify if the device is at least present with xrandr. If you are lucky you can add a new resolution-mode manually to your device. Follow the instructions here... https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1321200#p1321200
[12:53] <uburuntu> lenovo yoga 13 wifi issue persists. disabling idea_laptop didn't help :-(
[12:53] <Pici> White_Cat: The holy book for Musilms, not that it has anything to do with #ubuntu.
[12:53] <White_Cat> Koran you mean :p
[12:53] <prawny> Hammerhead2011-S if you happen to be using Dell monitors: some have a selector for the DP-version in the OSD, i suspect you need the highest for that kind of resolution.
[12:54] <seunghyu> mzQKaj Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ bqgVXx
[12:54] <kwok> mzQKaj Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ bqgVXx
[12:54] <desaree> mzQKaj Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ bqgVXx
[12:54] <White_Cat> he didnt even capitalise the first letter. Blasphammy
[12:54]  * seunghyu rfNVmy Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ iueKEl 
[12:54]  * kwok rfNVmy Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ iueKEl 
[12:54]  * desaree rfNVmy Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ iueKEl 
[12:54] <White_Cat> seriously this guy is annoying
[12:54] <seunghyu> skBFek Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ vzdADq
[12:54] <kwok> skBFek Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ vzdADq
[12:54] <desaree> skBFek Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ vzdADq
[12:54] <hillary> if i upgrade the files and folders will not be affected?
[12:54] <Pici> Bare with us for a few moments folks.
[12:54] <White_Cat> I am bare? Did I bare? :p
[12:55] <White_Cat> thank you Pici :)
[12:55] <Pici> bear/bare/bire
[12:55] <drmagoo> hillary: all files in your home-dir should remain unaffected. Any changes you have done to configurationfiles might be lost.
[12:55] <White_Cat> Pici I'll bear with you for a klondyke bar :p
[12:55] <White_Cat> klondike?
[12:55] <White_Cat> however thats spelled
[12:56] <LordDeath> in 14.04 there is a way to use "apt" instead of "apt-get". is this just a new feature of the apt package?
[12:56] <foldart_> hillary: I've done it, although I took backups first.  Just in case.
[12:57]  * foldart_ wonders if apt is a synonym for aptitude
[12:57] <check3r> I want to speed up my ubuntu a lil bit. how to disable window effects?
[12:58] <k1l> foldart_: no its not.
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[13:00] <esther> yfROge Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ dzrOYw
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[13:00]  * indira ysSJxr Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ irjKQq 
[13:00] <marshall> yfROge Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ dzrOYw
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[13:00]  * marshall ysSJxr Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ irjKQq 
[13:00]  * dequin ysSJxr Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ irjKQq 
[13:00] <AeroNotix> what the fuck is this^
[13:00] <Cuppa_coffee> !ops
[13:00] <check3r> y does nobody ban them
[13:01] <White_Cat> stupid spam is stupid
[13:01] <Cuppa_coffee> what was that?
[13:02] <Phyliares> Hi , do you know when kernel update will be available for trusty?
[13:02] <k1l> Cuppa_coffee: dont mind the spam bots. just focus back to support :)
[13:02] <kostkon> Cuppa_coffee, botnet attack
[13:02] <Vladimir_> How do I delete all in the vi editor at once?
[13:02] <Phyliares> Vladimir_: dG
[13:02] <Cuppa_coffee> right, thank you!
[13:03] <prawny> minimec i'm getting a X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes), do you have the solution/diagnosis for that handy? else i'll just go through the google results myself.
[13:03] <prawny>  
[13:03] <Vladimir_> Phyliares: is says Not an editor command
[13:03] <Phyliares> Vladimir_: with you keyboard, type "d" then "G"
[13:03] <Phyliares> not in insertion mode
[13:03] <Phyliares> nor in commant
[13:03] <Phyliares> not in visual
[13:04] <BluesKaj> k1l, you had your hands full with that last blast
[13:04] <MarkedOne> Hello
[13:04] <prawny> Phyliares, explaining how to use the holy grenade?
[13:04] <Vladimir_> yeah I just type it
[13:05] <Vladimir_> Phyliares: seems like it only erases one line at a time
[13:05] <minimec> uburuntu: Just see you message now. Using the '--addmode' command? You might have to change DVI-0 to 'LVDS1' or 'HDMI1' according the xrandr output
[13:05] <Phyliares> Vladimir_: one line deletion is "dd"
[13:05] <minimec> uburuntu: sorry wrong...
[13:05] <MarkedOne> Can anyone help me with my problem ?
[13:06] <MarkedOne> my Swap is not working..
[13:06] <Vladimir_> Phyliares: I type 'dG' and one line gets removed:/
[13:06] <wafflejock> MarkedOne: can you describe what you mean by not working
[13:06] <minimec> prawny: You might have to change 'DVI-0' to 'LVDS1' or 'HDMI1' according the xrandr output
[13:06] <wafflejock> MarkedOne: swapon -s or free -m output
[13:06] <Phyliares> Please, Ubuntu addicts, i'm from debian, so don't know how to find this information: I need kernel 3.13.0-37.64+ cause of the #1365869, How can i find release date please?
[13:07] <uburuntu> Everyone! Fixed it :-) with https://github.com/lwfinger/rtl8723au
[13:07] <MarkedOne> wafflejock:  After fresh instal of ubuntu 14.04 LTS swap partition is missing
[13:07] <kostkon> bug 1365869
[13:08] <cfhowlett> !swap | MarkedOne, you didn't set it during install so ... no swap.  easy to add.
[13:08] <MarkedOne> ubottu: I know. what is swap.. and i know i created it
[13:09] <cfhowlett> markedone did you enable swap?
[13:09] <foldart_> k1l: Thanks.  Now confirmed for me by comparing the output of "apt moo" to "aptitude moo". :-)
[13:10] <MarkedOne> cfhowlett: yes
[13:10] <workerbeetwo> HI. is there an equivalent for the "startproc" known from suse linux in ubuntu?
[13:10] <MarkedOne> cfhowlett: but after restart there is no swap again
[13:11] <MarkedOne> cfhowlett: http://punygeek.blogspot.sk/2012/10/ubuntu-1204-how-to-solve-disk-drive-for.html this didnt help
[13:11] <cfhowlett> MarkedOne, sorry, man.  blogspot is blocked in China.  (don't ask)
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[13:11]  * hairil wrGFsu Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ Listen to quran if you wan http://quran.com/ olxSUl 
[13:11] <cfhowlett> !ops
[13:12] <ikonia> all - the channel is muted for a moment or two while the spammers are killed off
[13:12] <ikonia> please be patient for a few minutes
[13:13] <ikonia> won't be too much longer
[13:13] <ikonia> apologies for the interuption to the channel, I'll unmute it in a moment
[13:13] <ikonia> ok I think we're all ok, please continue to use #ubuntu, sorry for the interuption
[13:14] <Pici> Thanks ikonia :)
[13:16] <Phyliares> omg it's not just the OS, each thing related to Ubuntu is horrible
[13:17] <MarkedOne> Is there anything like teamviewer ? cause i need a someone who really understand how swap and boot works.. i have problem i cannot solve my own.. spent whole day and cannot fix it
[13:17] <cfhowlett> Phyliares, you are free to use other distros if ubuntu doesn't meet you needs
[13:17] <Phyliares> cfhowlett: i know, i'm here for a customer not for my needs
[13:19] <MarkedOne> Please is there anybody who can help me via remote access ?
[13:19] <prawny> minimec i used "xrandr --addmode DVI-I-2 2560x1440_59.90" after defining that mode. the DVI-I-2 is taken from my qrandr -q output http://paste.ubuntu.com/8350215/
[13:19] <prawny>  
[13:20] <hillary> An body to suggest to me the best book to read in order to understand Linux well?
[13:20] <cfhowlett> hillary, "linux for dummies"  no insult intended
[13:20] <MarkedOne> Please is there anybody who can help me via remote access ?
[13:21] <Bobbo> MarkedOne: You'll need to describe your problem. :3
[13:21] <user1> hillary: take this free course: google edx linux
[13:22] <cfhowlett> hillary, this ^^^ great course!
[13:23] <MarkedOne> Bobbo:  My swap partition wont load and i dont know wher is the problem..  this site didnt help.. http://punygeek.blogspot.sk/2012/10/ubuntu-1204-how-to-solve-disk-drive-for.html
[13:23] <minimec> prawny: That seems ok for me. What I see is, that the 800x600 resolution on DVI-I-2 is on '60.3*'. Do the whole procedure with 60.3 instead of 59.9?
[13:23] <hillary> ok thanks good people
[13:23] <MarkedOne> Bobbo: I had swap.. but after restart.. it is gone again..
[13:23] <wheatthin> MarkedOne, did you define a swap partition in /etc/fstab?
[13:23] <wheatthin> and is it correct?
[13:23] <Bobbo> MarkedOne: I can't really help you with that. :3
[13:24] <cfhowlett> MarkedOne, run this command.  I have difficulty believing the partition itself vanished:   lsblk
[13:24] <MarkedOne> cfhowlett: gimme a sec
[13:24] <MarkedOne> wheatthin: yes i did
[13:24] <wheatthin> So, it might be defined wrong.. cause it should automatically be entered.
[13:25] <MarkedOne> wheatthin: maybe. is there remote access in ubuntu ?
[13:25] <minimec> prawny: And... You would have to change to that mode afterwards in the monitors GUI... ;) I forgot to mention that...
[13:25] <wheatthin> MarkedOne, can you    cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit
[13:25] <wheatthin> MarkedOne, Hmmm that's like saying is there SSH access available on linux.. .. most definitely there is. )
[13:26] <wheatthin> :)
[13:26] <MarkedOne> cfhowlett: yes there is sda2
[13:26] <prawny> minimec, good idea, but 60.30 failed too
[13:26] <MarkedOne> cfhowlett: sda2   8:2    0     4G  0 part
[13:26] <cfhowlett> MarkedOne, .... check the size - it should match the size you set for /swap
[13:27] <prawny> did i mention i'm on the proprietary nvidia drivers? not sure if it makes a difference
[13:27] <MarkedOne> wheatthin: is there something like online support.. so somebody can look at this ?
[13:28] <MarkedOne> cfhowlett:  size should be 4,3GB and is only 4
[13:28] <MarkedOne> i will do print screen
[13:28] <cfhowlett> MarkedOne, actually with linux rounding that's likely correct.
[13:28] <cfhowlett> yes please
[13:29] <cfhowlett> MarkedOne, so if the partition is there, you just need to set and enable that partition as /swap per the ubottu /swap factoid
[13:29] <minimec> prawny: What is the maximum resolution for that GPU (in case you run on dual screen)?
[13:30] <prawny> http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-570/specifications way above the 1440p
[13:30] <prawny> well, not way above.
[13:30] <prawny> but good enough.
[13:30] <prawny> not sure if i'm supposed to add the two monitors together for that though.
[13:31] <prawny> what I DID try was lowering my main screen's resolution, but the 800x600 limit stays.
[13:31] <prawny> the new monitor also does not seem (to be able to?) provide any EDID data
[13:32] <MarkedOne> cfhowlett: one minute please :)
[13:34] <MarkedOne> cfhowlett: there it is.. http://www.upnito.sk/imggal.php?viewGallery=89b906b33aee5b32e705ad4738f4cf43
[13:34] <MarkedOne> cfhowlett: i did some changes to fstab and crypttab
[13:36] <cfhowlett> MarkedOne, encrypted swap?  I gotta bail.  No meaning contributions I can make.  sorry.  someone else in channel will certainly know more than I.
[13:37] <MarkedOne> cfhowlett: it dont need to be encrypted.. i just want it to work..
[13:37] <minimec> prawny: Did you 'crawl' through that one? Looks good! http://askubuntu.com/questions/235507/xconfig-xrandr-badmatch
[13:38] <prawny> mhm
[13:38] <prawny> i was in that thread
[13:39] <prawny> didn't try adjusting the horizontal and vertical refresh rates; did it now. rebooting and reporting back, see you in a minute
[13:39] <MarkedOne> do you guyz know if is there sometnig like official online support ?
[13:39] <cfhowlett> MarkedOne, I dual boot --- and I have only 6 partitions --- I have no idea what your partition table is doing with 9 ...
[13:40] <MarkedOne> nothing important.. boot, home, temp, var, root and win xp
[13:40] <MarkedOne> cfhowlett: and also swap should be sda2
[13:40] <minimec> prawny: You might have to check the HorizSync/VertRefresh rate of that monitor and change our 'mode' accordingly or setup a xorg.conf.
[13:42] <prawn> minimec well, grub and the boot logo like my new monitor :)
[13:42] <prawn> ubuntu itself not so much.
[13:44] <minimec> prawn: Yeah... but I think we go in the right direction...
[13:45] <MarkedOne> Can anyone help me with not working swap ? there is SS http://www.upnito.sk/imggal.php?viewGallery=89b906b33aee5b32e705ad4738f4cf43
[13:47] <prawn> minimec i'm a bit rusty when it comes to x: how do i restart it quickly? i guess i'll have to get to a lower terminal with ctrl+alt+f2, then what?
[13:48] <minimec> prawn: I would stop or restart the lightdm service 'sudo service lightdm stop/start/restart'
[13:48] <prawn> thanks
[13:48] <enkilil> I've installed a few full circle magazines, but they don't seem to open, I'm using ubuntu 14.04lts 32bit, any ideas?
[13:48] <MarkedOne> Can anyone help me with not working swap ? there is SS http://www.upnito.sk/imggal.php?viewGallery=89b906b33aee5b32e705ad4738f4cf43
[13:48] <minimec> MarkedOne: Can you unmount /dev/sda2? In that case I would then format it to swap...
[13:48] <prawn> really
[13:48] <prawn> REALLY
[13:49] <prawn> the f2 terminal thingy (I'm good with my linux vocab) shows up on the new monitor
[13:49] <MarkedOne> minimec: how to do it ?
[13:49] <enkilil> the links/icons are in the side menu but when I click on them...nothing happens :(
[13:50] <minimec> MarkedOne: mouse right click... ?
[13:50] <MarkedOne> minimec: i followed this tutorial.. http://punygeek.blogspot.sk/2012/10/ubuntu-1204-how-to-solve-disk-drive-for.html it help... but after restart swap has gone
[13:50] <minimec> prawn: I read you ;)
[13:51] <minimec> MarkedOne: Oh I see. You have crypted swap. Well I cannot helo you then...
[13:51] <MarkedOne> minimec: do you mean in gparted ? i dont have acces to sda2 in gui..
[13:51] <MarkedOne> minimec: i want only crypted home folder.. not swap
[13:52] <MarkedOne> minimec: i dont need crypted swap.. i just want it to work..
[13:52] <prawn> minimec adding the modes and extending the refresh rates in the xorg.conf didn't do the trick.
[13:53] <MarkedOne> minimec: i am running on 32bit cpu might that be problem ? i heard it cant work with more than 2 GB.... so 2GB RAM and 4 GB swap ?
[13:54] <enkilil> oh..lol, they're pdf's :/ sorted :)
[13:55] <minimec> MarkedOne: That is indeed a good question...
[13:55] <prawn> MarkedOne a 32bit CPU, or rather the 32bit operating system that runs on it, can use up to 4GB of RAM
[13:55] <prawn> or was it 3.2?
[13:55] <prawn> definately more than 2GB though.
[13:56] <minimec> MarkedOne: Should not be a problem. I agree...
[13:56] <MarkedOne> prawn: doesnt matter.. question is.. if it will handle 2GB ram and 4 GB SWAP ?
[13:56] <MarkedOne> minimec: let say i dont want crypted swap.. can you help me then ?
[13:56] <bajin-lee> hi
[13:57] <prawn> ah, good question then.
[13:57] <bajin-lee> how to install .tar software
[13:57] <MarkedOne> minimec: i just want encrypted home not swap.. dont know why is swap encrypted..
[13:58] <minimec> MarkedOne: You seem to have '4GB unknown' on /dev/sda2. I you can unmount that drive, you might be able to format it again as swap. mouse right click in the gparted gui.
[13:58] <prawn> MarkedOne because some of the encrypted data from home might end up in swap one way or another... kinda breaks the concept
[13:59] <prawn> so, minimec, any more pointers for me? :/
[14:00] <minimec> prawn: Is there a nvidia linux #channel on freenode? We are 'close and yet so far'... Hardware debugging can be crucial...
[14:01] <MarkedOne> minimec: yeah i did that already.. i formated to swap.. then i did mkswap, after that i edited initframs-tools/conf.d/resume added UUID after that update initframs, next swapon dev/sda2.. and it works..
[14:01] <MarkedOne> prawn: hmmm you are right
[14:01] <MarkedOne> prawn: can i ask you ? is there a need to have encrypted home ?
[14:01] <prawn> minimec i'll look for one.
[14:02] <prawn> MarkedOne a need? depends on whether you suspect someone might want to look at your hard drive and what you want that person to (not) find
[14:03] <prawn> in general, there's no requirement for this. if you don't care about your privacy, leave away the encryption. the encrypton does not stop malware or people figuring out your password.
[14:03] <prawn> it only protects from people reading out the data from the harddisk via an alternative operating system.
[14:03] <minimec> MarkedOne: When it comes to 'speed', people will tell you to encrypt either the whole harddrive or 'nothing'. Only enrypting parts of the drive wil slow it down.
[14:03] <hillary> sorry give again the command for new release upgrade
[14:03] <prawn> and even then, you need a good password.
[14:04] <MarkedOne> minimec: so should i try to reinstall ubuntu without encryption ?
[14:04] <prawn> minimec i'll try #nvidia, which is unofficial but might be worth a shot
[14:05] <suvrat> hey guys
[14:05] <MarkedOne> prawn: no i dont suspect anyone.. its my personal school notebook..
[14:05] <suvrat> help me
[14:05] <minimec> prawn: indeed...
[14:05] <suvrat> i m stuck
[14:05] <blackangelpr> hillary, sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:06] <suvrat> please help were the file is saved which is downloaded by terminal
[14:06] <mregg> Hi guys, in 14.04 volume sets back to around 20% automatically after a few seconds, regardless of how many times I set it to where I want it to be. Any suggestions?
[14:06] <suvrat> please help were the file is saved which is downloaded by terminal
[14:06] <minimec> MarkedOne: I would do a new installation and decide whether to encrypt the whole drive or 'nothing'...
[14:06] <suvrat> please help me
[14:06] <suvrat> please help were the file is saved which is downloaded by terminal
[14:06] <blackangelpr> !spam | suvrat
[14:07] <blackangelpr> wait for answer
[14:07] <minimec> suvrat: IN the same directory ;)
[14:07] <MarkedOne> minimec: thank you.. i will do a new instalation
[14:07] <suvrat> no it is saved in donload
[14:07] <suvrat> download i m unable
[14:07] <suvrat> to acces it
[14:07] <suvrat> :(
[14:08] <xiterrex> suvrat: type: pwd
[14:08] <blackangelpr> suvrat, you are not login in the terminal as a root right?
[14:08] <xiterrex> that is the current directory
[14:08] <suvrat> yes i m root
[14:08] <MarkedOne> minimec: can you tell me in quick how to encrypt whole drive? not only home... becouse in instalation of ubuntu there is only encrypt my home folder (check box)
[14:09] <blackangelpr> suvrat, why? use your user to go to your download folder
[14:09] <suvrat> i downloaded  1 file using command
[14:09] <prawn> MarkedOne nope, there actually is an option to encrypt the installation. it is under the "use LVM" checkbox
[14:09] <suvrat> wget http://sourceforge.net/projects/xampp/files/XAMPP%20Linux/1.8.3/xampp-linux-1.8.3-2-installer.run/download
[14:09] <prawn> or maybe above it.
[14:09] <prawn> same screen anyway.
[14:09] <blackangelpr> if you download something as user suvrat will be untder suvrat/home/folder\download
[14:09] <blackangelpr> you know what i mean
[14:09] <blackangelpr> brb
[14:10] <suvrat> then it showed download saved
[14:10] <suvrat> and then i
[14:10] <suvrat> sudo chmod +x xampp-linux-x64-1.8.3-2-installer.run
[14:10] <minimec> MarkedOne: Nope. There are many tutorials out there... ;) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FullDiskEncryptionHowto http://rationallyparanoid.com/articles/ubuntu-12-lts-security.html http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2014/01/16/manual-full-disk-encryption-setup-guide-for-ubuntu-13-10-linux-mint-16/
[14:10] <suvrat> but
[14:10] <suvrat> cannot access ‘xampp-linux-x64-1.8.3-2-installer.run’: No such file or directory
[14:10] <xiterrex> suvrat you can instruct wget to save the file in where you want. Example: wget -O /tmp/file.run http://….
[14:10] <BluesKaj> suvrat, /home/yourusername/Downloads
[14:11] <dine909> how can i launch the update-altermatives panel from shell
[14:11] <prawn> minimec #nvidia is either asleep or lazy ._.
[14:11] <suvrat> i downloaded whole file its huge
[14:11] <blackangelpr> suvrat, read what BluesKaj  wrote
[14:11] <suvrat> i knw where is "dowloads" but not "download"
[14:12] <blackangelpr> close the terminal and go to the home folder and downloads
[14:12] <prawn> i'll go ahead and try the new beta nvidia driver, maybe it breaks my whole sys-... fixes this problem.
[14:12] <blackangelpr> click on the icons
[14:12] <blackangelpr> and look for the file and tell me if you see it
[14:12] <suvrat> file is not daved to downloads it is saved to one folder
[14:12] <suvrat> download
[14:12] <blackangelpr> (o_O)
[14:13] <suvrat> which is in home directory and i m unable to acces it
[14:13] <BluesKaj> open nautilus, suvrat
[14:13] <suvrat> nautiles were it is
[14:14] <blackangelpr> write this on the terminal: nautilus
[14:14] <blackangelpr> and press enter
[14:14] <MarkedOne> prawn: Thank you.. i will try reinstall
[14:14] <suvrat> -rwxrwxrwx  1 root   root   129817538 Dec  4  2013 download
[14:14] <suvrat> i found it
[14:15] <suvrat> now how to open it
[14:15] <MarkedOne> minimec: Thank you i will try reinstall without encryption..
[14:15] <minimec> MarkedOne: ok. Good luck.
[14:15] <prawn> minimec off to install the new nvidia drivers, brb.
[14:15] <MarkedOne> minimec: Have a nice day.. i hope i wont come back here :D
[14:15] <suvrat> please some one help i m about to cry
[14:15] <MarkedOne> prawn: have a nice day..
[14:16] <minimec> MarkedOne: I hope you come back here... One day you will help others...
[14:16] <suvrat> -rwxrwxrwx  1 root   root   129817538 Dec  4  2013 download
[14:16] <suvrat> how to open is
[14:16] <suvrat> cd is not workind
[14:16] <suvrat> -rwxrwxrwx  1 root   root   129817538 Dec  4  2013 download
[14:16] <xiterrex> suvrat: rename it to its original name, set it executable and run:
[14:17] <xiterrex> suvrat: mv download xampp-linux-1.8.3-2-installer.run
[14:17] <xiterrex> suvrat: chmod +x xampp-linux-1.8.3-2-installer.run
[14:17] <xiterrex> suvrat: ./xampp-linux-1.8.3-2-installer.run
[14:17] <suvrat> it is in download foldwe man
[14:18] <xiterrex> it doesn’t matter
[14:18] <BluesKaj> suvrat, open the folder where the .run file is located then right click and open a terminal the do ./nameoffile
[14:18] <suvrat> wow
[14:18] <suvrat> amazing
[14:19] <suvrat> thanks buddy
[14:19] <xiterrex> ;)
[14:19] <suvrat> thanks xiterrex
[14:19] <suvrat> hope i can see u on fb
[14:19] <suvrat> thanks everyone
[14:20] <suvrat> who tried to help
[14:20] <suvrat> me
[14:20] <blackangelpr> happy PHP codding
[14:20] <suvrat> yaaa that is crapy
[14:20] <suvrat> ;(
[14:20] <suvrat> we have exam on it
[14:20] <blackangelpr> XD
[14:21] <suvrat> u guyzz are there always?
[14:21] <blackangelpr> this channel is one of the most crowded in IRC
[14:21] <suvrat> how to install .tar.gz
[14:22] <blackangelpr> suvrat, http://askubuntu.com/questions/25961/how-do-i-install-a-tar-gz-or-tar-bz2-file
[14:22] <suvrat> can u guyzz help me with my python code
[14:22] <suvrat> thanks buddy
[14:22] <Cuppa_coffee> try #python
[14:22] <Cuppa_coffee> they know more about python there
[14:23] <blackangelpr> type without the dot  ./join #python
[14:23] <blackangelpr> and press enter in here
[14:23] <suvrat>  File "1.py", line 5, in <module>
[14:23] <suvrat>     num1 = input('Enter first number: ')
[14:23] <suvrat>   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
[14:23] <suvrat> NameError: name 'suvrat' is not defined
[14:23] <suvrat> root@suvrat-Vostro-2520:/home/suvrat#
[14:23] <suvrat> is the error
[14:23] <pngl> Hi all. I've installed 14.04 on my Lenovo T440s and my 2-finger scroll and 2-finger right-click don't work. The touchpad settings seem correct (e.g. 2-finger scroll is checked) and synclient reports "VertTwoFingerScroll = 1". I don't know what to do.
[14:23] <roadtrip> ./join#linux
[14:24] <pngl> I used to be on Ubuntu 13.04 and it worked then.
[14:24] <Pici> suvrat: You're trying to install xampp?
[14:24] <suvrat> yaa final installed it with help of tthese guyzzz
[14:24] <suvrat> thiss group is wonder
[14:24] <suvrat> import pymongo
[14:24] <suvrat> from pymongo import Connection
[14:24] <suvrat> connection = Connection()
[14:24] <suvrat> connection = Connection('localhost', 27017)
[14:24] <suvrat> db = connection.test
[14:24] <unopaste> suvrat you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:25] <Cuppa_coffee> suvrat, type "/join #python" without the quotationmarks and ask in the #python channel
[14:25] <Cuppa_coffee> and ask there, they can help you better
[14:25] <Pici> suvrat: Well, I thought I'd let you know that we don't really support xampp installs here. You should be using the packages supplied by Ubuntu instead.
[14:25] <Pici> !lamp
[14:26] <suvrat> it is prompting me erroe unregistered python
[14:26] <harold> HI !! i am considering upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 but i have an older desktop
[14:27] <suvrat> erroer in joining python group
[14:27] <suvrat> python unregistered
[14:27] <cfhowlett> harold, older desktops?  lubuntu / xubuntu
[14:28] <blackangelpr> harold, no worries i have ubuntu 14.04 LTS running on a dinosaur unless you have 512 ram then you can try Lubuntu it will fly
[14:28] <blackangelpr> ./join #python
[14:28] <harold> dell prob a 4200??
[14:28] <blackangelpr> wihtout the dot survat
[14:29] <dine909> does anyone know how i can launch jockey to shoe the alternative drivers panel in ubuntu
[14:29] <dine909> from shell
[14:29] <harold> i maxed the ram out - 1gb
[14:29] <Cuppa_coffee> suvrat, you must register your nickname first
[14:30] <blackangelpr> harold, it should be fine but if you want more speed backup the data and use lubuntu then restore :P
[14:30] <harold> surprisingly the 1gb runs ok on ubuntu with xubuntu desktop
[14:31] <blackangelpr> oh i see
[14:31] <blackangelpr> if you say ubuntu we think you are using the main flavor
[14:31] <blackangelpr> harold, sudo do-distro upgrade
[14:32] <harold> i also have a compaq cq-62 laptop but after doing a little research it seems the lappie is not compatible...
[14:32] <cfhowlett> blackangelpr, nope.
[14:32] <blackangelpr> ?
[14:32] <cfhowlett> blackangelpr, sudo do-release-upgrade    = 12.04 > 14.04
[14:32] <blackangelpr> he is on 12.04
[14:32] <harold> sudo do-distro upgrade
[14:33] <BluesKaj> harold, that command won't work
[14:33] <cfhowlett> blackangelpr, wrong command.
[14:33] <blackangelpr> tell me the correct one then to learn why XD
[14:34] <harold> ok 1 thing is for me to do the upgrade it would have to be in steps ? correct?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> blackangelpr, read cfhowlett command above
[14:35] <blackangelpr> haaaa got it XD so similar :P
[14:35] <harold> also i have a nook w/chrome - a newer one 150$$ model and i woukd like to be able to run this chat on it??
[14:36] <cfhowlett> harold, if chrome can jump to webirc
[14:37] <harold> ok will check this out - that way more accessable
[14:47] <sakang> harold: not sure about ffox mobile but if you can install chatzilla ext in ffox, it should.  using that right now from a pc
[14:47] <pngl> I have a weird sound problem on 14.04: sound plays fine, but I can't change the volume or mute with the Fn keys, the sound config. menu shows no device, yet aplay -l and lpsic -v show audio devices.
[14:48] <YokoBR> hi guys, i know this isn't the right place, but does anyone knows where can i discuss about moodle platform?
[14:49] <mr-id> hey guys...i installed opencv...it was working fine but system crashed on next restart...can anybody help??
[14:49] <cfhowlett> YokoBR, moodle has forums for support
[14:50] <YokoBR> Yeah, i know, but they take days and days to answer... irc is so much faster. But thanks anyway :)
[14:52] <pngl> Also, org.gnome.nautilus.preferences.show-hidden-files is checked, yet hidden files aren't shown in nautilus until I press Ctrl+H.
[14:52] <minimec> pngl: Can you once open gstreamer-properties and test the Plugin: 'PulseAudio Sound Server'? Also check the 'Shortcuts' in the keyboard settings...
[14:54] <pngl> minimec: I don't have it and don't see it as a package. How can I get it?
[14:55] <pngl> minimec: I've just checked the keyboard shortcuts, they're correctly configured
[14:56] <minimec> pngl: sudo apt-get install gstreamer-tools? I just want to verify that pulseaudio is working. That could be the reason for your troubles
[14:57] <minimec> pngl: It's not gstreamter-tools!
[14:57] <pngl> minimec: I've installed it with gnome-media (haven't tested gstreamer-tools)
[14:57] <pngl> minimec: pulseaudio failed to connect
[14:58] <minimec> pngl: So check this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio and remove your old pulseaudio config logout/login
[14:58] <pngl> minimec: alsa works and autodetect works
[14:58] <pngl> minimec: thanks
[15:00] <pngl> minimec: brb
[15:01] <ruslan_osmanov> hi, I have a standard xubuntu setup with lvm partitions which spread on entire hard drive. I've just tried to shrink the root partition via live usb (xubuntu): sudo lvreduce --resizefs --size -110G /dev/xubuntu-vg/root . The command reported successful resize. However, physical partitions remained the same: http://dpaste.com/067CHYT
[15:01] <pngl_> minimec: it works :)
[15:01] <ruslan_osmanov> please help me to finish it
[15:01] <unclescratchie> fresh install of Ubuntu 14.04......lag lag lag so bad bad bad....anyone tell my how to fix?
[15:03] <minimec> ;)
[15:05] <Dorian23>  You can find funny videos here. http://tinyurl.com/ozfvxy3
[15:06] <dupingping> Hi everybody
[15:07] <dupingping> why scp is very slow with vpn?
[15:07] <dupingping> softethervpn.
[15:07] <cfhowlett> dupingping, vpn.  the great firewall.
[15:07] <unclescratchie> fresh install of Ubuntu 14 ....  have some PROBLEMS....lag,  and have to keep rebooting........anyone know why?
[15:07] <dupingping> @cfhowlett: it's very slow. why it's very slow?
[15:08] <dupingping> can you help me?
[15:08] <cfhowlett> dupingping, because the great chinese firewall is getting better at blocking VPN's.
[15:08] <dupingping> oh, no.
[15:08] <dupingping> They are not in china
[15:09] <cfhowlett> dupingping, "they" who?  aren't YOU in China?
[15:09] <dupingping> i just living in china, but the ips are not in china
[15:09] <dupingping> i manage them via remote manager.
[15:10] <BluesKaj> dupingping, well, your IP shows Bejing
[15:10] <dupingping> BluesKaj: yes, i living in china, also my IP.
[15:10] <dupingping> but I manage the servers remotely.
[15:11] <dupingping> and the servers are in uk.
[15:11] <cfhowlett> dupingping, hmm.  if you've got incoming traffic from VPN, best believe the BJ and CN authorities are tracking and / or throttling it.  VPN's are becoming increasingly ineffective over time for that reason. proxy is also being strangled.
[15:11] <BluesKaj> so why aren/t you using the servers/
[15:12] <dupingping> BluesKaj: the servers connect each other via VPN
[15:12] <dupingping> And also the servers have global ips.
[15:13] <dupingping> The servers communicate with high speed like as 30Mb/s with global ip.
[15:13] <Aaruni> anyone help? bluetooth doesn't work. more info here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2244315
[15:13] <dupingping> but with VPN.
[15:14] <BluesKaj> i don't get it ..whynot connect thru those servers?
[15:15] <fProgrammer> Aaruni: Do you have bluetooth applet installed?
[15:15]  * Derty joined here people this e good network for europe /server -m foxchat.hopto.org for mirc client and with webchat http://foxchat-network.webnode.gr/webchat/
[15:15] <Aaruni> fProgrammer: yes.
[15:15] <fProgrammer> Do you see anything strange in syslog/dmesg if you modprobe bluetooth driver?
[15:16] <Aaruni> fProgrammer: I don't know how to do that. maybe you could walk me through it ?
[15:17] <stevendumani> using 14.04, I can't find the keyring directory in ~/.local/share/keyrings/ where else should I look?
[15:18] <fProgrammer> Aaruni: First, check which is your bluetooth driver
[15:18] <unclescratchie> major problems with lag Ubuntu 14, fresh install
[15:18] <Aaruni> fProgrammer: how ?
[15:18] <fProgrammer> you can do that simply by observing output of `lsmod`
[15:18] <eeee> unclescratchie: dash > additional drivers , what's installed?
[15:19] <unclescratchie> eeee, no additional drivers
[15:19] <unclescratchie> eeee, that I know of
[15:19] <eeee> unclescratchie: which driver is in use?
[15:19] <fProgrammer> Then you can do `rmmod that_driver_name` once done, you can re-insert
[15:19] <Aaruni> fProgrammer: bluetooth             411140  10 bnep,rfcomm
[15:19] <Aaruni> so, my driver is rfcomm, fProgrammer ?
[15:19] <unclescratchie> eeee, ok, got me on that one.....how do i check?? sorry
[15:20] <fProgrammer> Aaruni: No, its bluetooth
[15:20] <unclescratchie> eeee, how do I check?  sorry
[15:20] <eeee> unclescratchie: dash > additional drivers
[15:20] <unclescratchie> eeee, hang on
[15:20] <Aaruni> so, fProgrammer rmmod bluetooth ?
[15:20] <fProgrammer> yep
[15:20] <Aaruni> fProgrammer: ERROR: Module bluetooth is in use by bnep,rfcomm
[15:21] <fProgrammer> yep, rmmod all those modules
[15:21] <unclescratchie> eeee, no proprietary drivers are in use
[15:21] <fProgrammer> keep an eye on dmesg
[15:21] <eeee> unclescratchie:  which one is in use right now? and what is available?
[15:21] <Aaruni> fProgrammer: ERROR: Module bnep is in use
[15:21] <Aaruni> ERROR: Removing 'rfcomm': Operation not permitted
[15:21] <Aaruni> fProgrammer: What is dmesg ?
[15:21] <fProgrammer> Use sudo
[15:22] <eeee> unclescratchie: ( graphics drivers )
[15:22] <Aaruni> fProgrammer: ERROR: Module bnep is in use
[15:22] <fProgrammer> dmesg is place where all the modules report their activity, a log
[15:22] <unclescratchie> eeee,  just popped up.....broadcam wirless 1390 wlan  mini-card ( device not working)   then 2 options
[15:22] <fProgrammer> yes, remove bnep first
[15:23] <Aaruni> fProgrammer: can
[15:23] <Aaruni> *can't remove bnep
[15:23] <fProgrammer> what's the error/
[15:23] <Aaruni> fProgrammer: sudo rmmod bnep
[15:23] <Aaruni> ERROR: Module bnep is in use
[15:24] <eeee> unclescratchie: anything about any xorg drivers ? and graphics drivers?
[15:24] <fProgrammer> have you quit bluetooth-applet?
[15:24] <fProgrammer> do that first..
[15:24] <unclescratchie> eeee, no
[15:24] <eeee> unclescratchie: type this in the terminal and paste here, lspci | grep VGA
[15:26] <Aaruni> fProgrammer: still doesn't work
[15:26] <fProgrammer> Aaruni: Try scrolling through dmesg and see if you find anything related to bluetooth
[15:26] <fProgrammer> you can try `dmesg | grep bluetooth`
[15:27] <Aaruni> fProgrammer: that gives no output
[15:28] <sere> has anyone been able to get conky weather working with 14.04?
[15:29] <fProgrammer> Aaruni: can you try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/375537/bluetooth-not-working-on-ubuntu-13-10 ?
[15:30] <unclescratchie> eeee, sorry  had to reboot....I have a conflict with the wifi driver
[15:30] <unclescratchie> eeee, how to fix?
[15:31] <unclescratchie> eeee, still here?
[15:32] <eeee> sorry, back
[15:32] <eeee> what are the 2 options?
[15:32] <supNow> Anyone know of a way to get ubuntu 14 to fit on a cd?
[15:32] <eeee> supNow: you can use the minimal install, or netinstall
[15:33] <supNow> where do I find the file @eeee
[15:33] <jeffreylevesque> will latest ubuntu run on 32 bit, 4GB ram virtualized?
[15:33] <unclescratchie> eeee, use Broadcom 802.11 linux from bcml-kernel-source or Dont use device
[15:33] <eeee> supNow: releases.ubuntu.com i guess
[15:33] <eeee> !minimal | supNow
[15:33] <unclescratchie> eeee, tried that and lost wifi,,, had to revert and reboot
[15:34] <supNow> thanks, I'm going to try this as for some reason 3 dif USB sticks have been a fail even though they have worked in the past...
[15:35] <unclescratchie> eeee, very strange, and I dont know what to do......it is causing major lag
[15:35] <supNow> and I'd like to get a clean install rather than install 12.04 and upgrade
[15:35] <eeee> unclescratchie: lag you mean internet-wise ? or like apps take time to open?
[15:35] <eeee> unclescratchie: i thought you were talking about apps
[15:36] <unclescratchie> I use Blender and Inkscape...  they are s l o w .....   also having a problem with chrome.....hard to scroll pages
[15:36] <supNow> thanks for the help eeee I'm going to try this as I'm hard wired and can download whatever
[15:37] <eeee> supNow: sounds good
[15:37] <eeee> supNow: np
[15:38] <unclescratchie> eeee,  seems to be better now.........I dont know ....  weird.....thanks anyways
[15:41] <aliteralmind> What's the correct way of getting access to /var/log/nginx? Currently it's
[15:41] <aliteralmind> drwxr-x--- 2 www-data  adm          4096 Sep 14 06:29 nginx
[15:43] <aliteralmind> And attempting to "sudo su - www-data" results in "This account is currently not available." and "sudo su - adm" results in "No passwd entry for user 'adm'".
[15:43] <aliteralmind> I can change it with chmod 777, but I'd like to know the right way.
[15:45] <stevendumani> eeee please help? where else can I find the keyring folder in 14.04 ? I looked in ~/.local/share but no joy?
[15:47] <mark__> Struggling to install KVM offline, I'm getting a message saying "GCC is not present or not working", can anyone help with this?
[15:48] <ikonia> kvm should not need gcc
[15:48] <mark__> Ikonia, it's when I'm trying to compile it
[15:48] <ikonia> why ?
[15:48] <ikonia> just use the packaged version
[15:48] <ikonia> it's proven/tested
[15:49] <YalBren> Hello I have a 10.04 fresh install server we want to upgrade to 12.04.  But when we do do-release-upgrade with or without the -d it just says "No New releases found"  any ideas.?
[15:49] <ikonia> why not install 12.04 or 14.04 if its a "fresh install"
[15:49] <ikonia> just install the version you need straight away
[15:49] <mark__> Ikonia: I'm confused, I can't get the package if I'm disconnected to the internet can i?
[15:50] <ikonia> mark__: you obviously manged to get the kvm tar ball to compile it, so get the kvm package
[15:51] <mark__> ikonia: sorry I'm confused, I downloaded from here http://sourceforge.net/projects/kvm/files/ then put it on usb to transfer, and then unpackaged, now I'm trying to configure.
[15:51] <mark__> ikonia: I don't know any other way
[15:52] <Boltious> I had a quick question about some DNS settings in Ubuntu
[15:52] <micky_> Hello all
[15:53] <ikonia> mark__: so do the same with the deb files
[15:53] <mark__> ikonia: sorry, there's two sets of files?
[15:53] <ikonia> what ?
[15:53] <ikonia> mark__: do you understand how to use the ubuntu package manager ?
[15:53] <mark__> Ikonia: no,
[15:54] <mark__> ikonia: would that work offline? If it will I'll try and learn it
[15:54] <YalBren> ikonia: because it's a custom made distro and we haven't made the new one yet
[15:54] <TJ-> mark__: The kvm modules are part of the Ubuntu and mainline kernels - for the userspace packages, KVM has merged with QEMU, so you need to install package "qemu-kvm" : "sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm"
[15:55] <YalBren> Hello I have a 10.04 fresh install server we want to upgrade to 12.04.  But when we do do-release-upgrade with or without the -d it just says "No New releases found"  any ideas.?
[15:55] <mark__> TJ: I understand that, and on a copy of ubuntu with a net connection,  I can and have done this. I've got a server offline, not connected to the outside world, so I'm really confused as to how that will work.
[15:56] <TJ-> YalBren: d-r-u relies on the repostory hosting the meta-release files; if you operate a custom repo, you'll need to host the meta-release files too
[15:56] <Boltious> Hey guys, fresh install of 14.04 and I have users having issues with DNS.  I have not set any DNS settings myself.  Can anyone maybe shine some light on this?
[15:56] <micky_> Question: My Ubuntu virtual machine crashed. Is there any sanity check I can / should do?
[15:56] <TJ-> mark__: See the package "apt-offline"
[15:56] <ikonia> YalBren: if it's a custom made distro it's not ubuntu
[15:57] <YalBren> TJ-: we don't host a custom repo, we have always had the ability to do-release-upgrade before it's just for some reason now it's not working
[15:57] <YalBren> ikonia: it's just scripts ran at the end
[15:57] <ikonia> YalBren: so then install 12.04
[15:57] <ikonia> YalBren: or 14.04
[15:57] <mark__> TJ: looking now, sorry if I'm spamming this place. I'm quite new to linux.
[15:57] <YalBren> we can't
[15:57] <ikonia> if it's just scripts
[15:57] <ikonia> YalBren: why ?
[15:58] <ikonia> YalBren: if it's "nothing" as you say, then you can use 12.04, if it's not nothing as you say, you shouldn't be doing the upgrade process
[15:58] <YalBren> ikonia: because there's a whole process that needs to be done to approve it first and that takes months.
[15:58] <ikonia> YalBren: then the upgrade process is a risk
[15:58] <ikonia> and will still break
[15:58] <daftykins> Boltious: not until you explain the issue better, nope
[15:58] <ikonia> 12.04 by an upgrade is 12.04 as a clean install
[15:59] <ikonia> so if your scripts don't work on 12.04 - they won't work on 12.04 upgrade
[15:59] <YalBren> ikonia: either you can help or just stop.
[15:59] <ikonia> YalBren: ok - custom ubuntu spins are not supported here
[15:59] <ikonia> YalBren: if you want an official line
[15:59] <YalBren> ikonia: the same happens with a vanilla install
[16:00] <ikonia> YalBren: no it won't
[16:00] <ikonia> YalBren: as you can install 12.04
[16:00] <YalBren> ikonia: it did
[16:00] <warsoul> im running ubuntu on virtualbox i only have resoultion 640x480 and can get a bigger one?
[16:00] <ikonia> YalBren: right because you need to point at the archive repo
[16:00] <ikonia> as 10.04 is eol
[16:00] <ikonia> !eolupgrade | YalBren
[16:00] <YalBren> ikonia: I tried that and got the same result unfortunately
[16:01] <ikonia> YalBren: that's either a.) incorrect b.) something to do with your custom repo
[16:01] <minimec> warsoul: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22743/how-do-i-install-guest-additions-in-a-virtualbox-vm
[16:01] <ikonia> YalBren: that process works fine on 10.04 -> 12.04 upgrades
[16:02] <YalBren> ikonia: I'll give it another try
[16:02] <gdm85> can 2 bridges (with 2 different IP addresses) use the same ethernet interface?
[16:04] <Jef91> Anyone know if there is a guide anywhere for installing Windows 8 AFTER you've already installed Ubuntu? I'd rather not wipe out my whole existing system
[16:05] <tischendwarf> Hi all. I'm trying to install 14.04.1 or 14.10, on both I'm getting the same problem: "Errno 5" during the setup when copying files. I've burned 2 DVDs, one at 4x the other at 3x, I've used Rufus to put the iso on a USB stick, done a memory test, and checked for bad sectors. I still can't get this to install. Can anyone help?
[16:05] <Boltious> Hey guys, fresh install of 14.04 and I have users having issues with DNS. "/etc/resolv.conf" says my dns is 127.0.1.1, but DHCP is giving the correct dns servers. (and yes, /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink to ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf) The output of netstat -an shows a representative system listening on tcp/udp 53.
[16:05] <pngl> I'm having touchpad issues since upgrading to 14.04. Despite being enabled, tap-to-click and 2-finger scrolling don't work. I've noticed that after a reboot, everything worked, and on the next boot it was gone again. I wasn't able to tie that to any particular configuration change before the 1st reboot.
[16:06] <tischendwarf> Jef91: There should be many guides for that online, just look up reinstalling grub or lilo or whatever boot loader you were using.
[16:06] <Jef91> tischendwarf: there is something specific that needs to be done in terms of partitions I'm not finding in any guides
[16:06] <compdoc> tischendwarf, how many drives in the system, including usb drives?
[16:06] <Jef91> Windows refuses to simply install to the open primary partition I made - so something else needs to be done apparently
[16:06] <tischendwarf> compdoc: 1 hard drive, 1 optical drive, 1 usb drive
[16:07] <ikonia> Jef91: it wants a small partition at the start of the disk
[16:07] <ikonia> assuming it's windows 7
[16:07] <compdoc> you sure its not trying to write to the usb?
[16:07] <tischendwarf> Jef91: You might have to manually resize or repoisition some partitions, windows puts a small 100ish MB partition at the start of the drive
[16:08] <Jef91> ikonia: Windows 8 so likely the same
[16:08] <testinguser1234> Hello everybody
[16:08] <Jef91> that is a PITA. Have several hundred gigs of data on the first partition
[16:08] <Jef91> Thanks for the heads up
[16:08] <tischendwarf> compdoc: absolutely. i've been selecting the option to manually partition and making sure to nuke the existing failed ext4 partition and reformat it as ext4 with a mountpoint of /, i'm sure its right because it has my win 7 partitions ahead of it
[16:08] <ikonia> Jef91: talk to the guys in ##windows - there maybe ways around it
[16:09] <testinguser1234> I download Ubuntu14.04 and I mount it to a directory and I see that there is no netboot directory. Why is ubuntu-14.04 not having it? I want it for PXE server configuration.
[16:09] <Jef91> Yep, just headed over there thanks
[16:09] <YalBren> ikonia: same issue actually.  Now my sources.list is as that site says and it still says No new releases found
[16:09] <ikonia> YalBren: works for many many many other people
[16:09] <ikonia> YalBren: if you do "sudo apt-get update" what happens
[16:10] <YalBren> ikonia: it updates
[16:10] <YalBren> the repos
[16:10] <YalBren> it just doesn't find an update release with do-release-upgrade
[16:10] <ikonia> YalBren: can you please pastebin the full output of "sudo apt-get update" in a pastebin
[16:11] <YalBren> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8351391/
[16:12] <ikonia> YalBren: ok, that looks good, so if you do apt-get distr-upgrade what happens
[16:12] <YalBren> ikonia: it says "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[16:13] <ikonia> YalBren: so what does lsb_release -a show ?
[16:13] <YalBren> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8351414/
[16:14] <testinguser1234> there is no directory named "pxe" in the entire instalation media of ubuntu-14.04, why is it so???? Cant we use 14.04 for installing through PXE???????
[16:14] <ikonia> YalBren: interesting it should be showing 10.4.4
[16:14] <ikonia> or 10.4.5 I can't remember which is current
[16:14] <TJ-> YalBren: "cat cat /etc/update-manager/{release-upgrades,meta-release}"
[16:15] <tischendwarf> testinguser1234: is this not what you are looking for? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/14.04/
[16:15] <TJ-> YalBren: typo, loose a cat :)
[16:15] <YalBren> ikonia: here's do-release-upgrade too http://paste.ubuntu.com/8351419/
[16:15] <ikonia> he's not on 10.04.5 (
[16:15] <testinguser1234> wow thank tischendwarf but why is it not present in the installation media?
[16:16] <ikonia> YalBren: your not on the latest 10.04 release
[16:16] <tischendwarf> testinguser1234: i have no idea. i don't use ubuntu lol :)
[16:16] <YalBren> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8351422/
[16:16] <testinguser1234> tischendwarf: hah...
[16:16] <ikonia> prompt=normal, interesting
[16:16] <ikonia> I wonder where that got changed
[16:16] <testinguser1234> tischendwarf: thanks
[16:16] <testinguser1234> you are great
[16:17] <tischendwarf> I'm trying to install 14.04.1 or 14.10, on both I'm getting the same problem: "Errno 5" during the setup when copying files. I've burned 2 DVDs, one at 4x the other at 3x, I've used Rufus to put the iso on a USB stick, done a memory test, and checked for bad sectors. I still can't get this to install. Can anyone help?
[16:17] <testinguser1234> tischendwarf: I am just a F***king idiot....I cant find anything
[16:17] <Sycrido> TJ: It's Mark here, do you know if there's any good instructions on how to use Apt-offline, on the net? I'm not finding any clear guidance
[16:17] <tischendwarf> testinguser1234: np :) i hope it installs for you. it wont install on this clients laptop lol
[16:17] <SchrodingersScat> !language | testinguser1234
[16:17] <testinguser1234> grrrrrrrr.........aglalalglglal..........bllllaahh...........why am I such a looooserrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[16:17] <ikonia> YalBren: your release should be 10.04.4
[16:17] <tischendwarf> lol like you should talk Scrodingers Scat
[16:18] <YalBren> ikonia: I was playing with /etc/update-manager/release-upgrade before
[16:18] <tischendwarf> that is a pretty disturbingly gross handle
[16:18] <loki_> what is good racing game for ubuntu?
[16:18] <YalBren> ikonia: the description says that at least.
[16:18] <k1l> !games | loki_
[16:18] <loki_> maybe it little offtopic but i don't know where i can ask.
[16:19] <tischendwarf> loki_: the only game worth playing is xevil, and the versions in the ubuntu package system are sooo broken
[16:19] <tischendwarf> it wont install
[16:19] <k1l> !find tuxracer
[16:20] <YalBren> ikonia: changed it back to lts btw
[16:20] <ikonia> YalBren: your 10.04 needs to be 10.04.4
[16:21] <YalBren> ikonia: any idea why it wont update, very odd
[16:21] <warsoul> i just installed ubuntu in my virtual box
[16:21] <ikonia> YalBren: what's the output of "uname -a"
[16:21] <TJ-> Sycrido: "man apt-offline" and see the "EXAMPLES" section for workflow
[16:22] <YalBren> ikonia: "Linux bob 2.6.32-21-server #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 09:17:34 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[16:22] <ikonia> !info linux-image precise
[16:22] <ikonia> oops
[16:22] <ikonia> not precise
[16:22] <Sycrido> TJ: sorry I never thought of the man page
[16:22] <warsoul> what packages i need to install to be able to people connect via ssh etc.
[16:22] <k1l> YalBren: run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to make sure you are on the 10.04.5 state
[16:22] <ikonia> !info linux-image lucid
[16:23] <YalBren> k1l: that doesn't do anything unfortunately.
[16:23] <testinguser1234> This life is so depressive.....I cant do anything....sometimes I feel like going away into the dark...forever....just leave this world.......Its so painful to be losing all the time.
[16:23] <ikonia> YalBren: yeah, you're well out of date
[16:23] <ikonia> testinguser1234: final warning - not in this channel
[16:23] <testinguser1234> I want to giveup
[16:23] <ikonia> YalBren: this channel is for ubuntu discussion
[16:23] <testinguser1234> I will suicide
[16:23] <YalBren> ikonia: I am using Ubuntu.
[16:23] <ikonia> YalBren: you've said that
[16:24] <ikonia> YalBren: sorry - that was meant for testing12345
[16:24] <k1l> testinguser1234: stop that. if you got a technical support you can ask in here to get people to help you solve that
[16:25] <YalBren> ikonia: so we are too far out of date?
[16:25] <ikonia> YalBren: yes, thats why it's not getting offered
[16:25] <ikonia> (the upgrade)
[16:26] <Boltious> Hey guys, fresh install of 14.04 and I have users having issues with DNS. "/etc/resolv.conf" says my dns is 127.0.1.1, but DHCP is giving the correct dns servers. (and yes, /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink to ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf) The output of netstat -an shows a representative system listening on tcp/udp 53.
[16:26] <YalBren> ikonia: ok thank you for your help today.  I do appreaciate it.
[16:26] <mahem1_> Hi,k I am wondering if ther is an absolute temp file in Ubuntu that can be used for file reading tests. Something like the equivelient of /dev/null but that actually has some data in it. Would anyone know?
[16:27] <raub> Boltious: AFAIK, you are using network manager.
[16:28] <raub> And it then runs a local dns server that then talks to whatever dns server you are connected to
[16:28] <ikonia> mahem1_: /dev/random
[16:28] <raub> I believe the idea is so it looks transparent to your applications
[16:28] <pngl> Hi, i'm having trackpad issue since upgrading to 14.04. 2-finger scroll and tap-to-click don't work despite being enabled. It worked on 13.04.
[16:29] <mahem1_> ikonia: Cool, thanks.
[16:31] <sixwheeledbeast> having trouble with a fresh ubuntu install on a dell laptop.  The odd thing is I have a unetbootin version that works fine booted on the USB. However, the installed version has no network devices. Any ideas?
[16:31] <daftykins> sixwheeledbeast: you probably installed with updates, try booting the older kernel as it may've installed another
[16:32] <sixwheeledbeast> daftykins: I did, is that a problem. AFAIK there is only one kernel option available
[16:33] <daftykins> sixwheeledbeast: yes, that'll explain why the installed version doesn't work but the live session does
[16:34] <sixwheeledbeast> is there a way to repair the installed version?
[16:36] <daftykins> sixwheeledbeast: you need to confirm the above first.
[16:37] <mahem1_> ikonia: Hmmm, /dev/random kinda works but it seems to be constantly spewing random bits, so the file isn't static. Anyway around that?
[16:37] <ikonia> mahem1_: random=random data
[16:37] <ikonia> mahem1_: /dev/zero ?
[16:38] <sixwheeledbeast> daftykins: there is only 3.13.0-32 options available
[16:39] <daftykins> sixwheeledbeast: confirmed how?
[16:40] <sixwheeledbeast> daftykins: in grub
[16:40] <mahem1_> ikonia: I could assign it to a variable, but what I really want is just a temp file without me having to create a temp fie. So if I did something like cat /dev/random it would print a number of random bits and then end.
[16:40] <daftykins> sixwheeledbeast: and is that the same as the live session kernel?
[16:42] <_2_Rebecca> hi napstar
[16:42] <_2_Rebecca> (L)
[16:53] <oconnore> Hey, when an ubuntu distro is EOL'ed, do they delete the distro from all mirrors?
[16:54] <rww> oconnore: shortly thereafter, yes
[16:54] <rww> !eolupgrades
[16:54] <rww> there's a server that still has the repos, it's mentioned in the second link
[16:55] <oconnore> rww: thanks
[16:58] <sixwheeledbeast> daftykins: unfortunately I can't confirm that, my live USB fails to boot now. Which is odd.
[16:58] <daftykins> how strange
[17:01] <sixwheeledbeast> daftykins: I can only think that I updated the live USB version before I last shut it down.
[17:01] <daftykins> sixwheeledbeast: is it a persistent live USB?
[17:01] <sixwheeledbeast> daftykins: I believe so yes
[17:02] <daftykins> sixwheeledbeast: oh well, identify the network hardware and perhaps there's a workaround
[17:02] <pngl> Hi, I'm having trackpad issues since upgrading to 14.04. Even though they're enabled, tap-to-click and 2-finger scroll don't work. It used to work under 13.04. I'm using a Lenovo T440s.
[17:03] <micky_> Question: My Ubuntu virtual machine crashed. Is there any sanity check I can / should do?
[17:03] <pngl> re
[17:04] <daftykins> micky_: that might be a more appropriate question to ask of your virt tech provider
[17:06] <micky_> Does it make a difference whether I have the OS in a VM or not? (assuming you refer to virtual machine with virt tech)
[17:10] <sixwheeledbeast> daftykins: ok, thanks. It seems dpkg wants to install 3.13.0-35 but can't as there's no inet connection.
[17:10] <piranah> .j #Canada
[17:16] <tanja_> version 14.04 : trying to install packages but system gets stuck on updating mime support
[17:16] <micky_> daftykins: Does it make a difference whether I have the OS in a VM or not? (assuming you refer to virtual machine with virt tech)
[17:17] <daftykins> micky_: i refer to the hypervisor technology in use
[17:17] <micky_> Virtual box
[17:17] <micky_> So there is no standard command or anything in linux / ubuntu to check the sanity of my system?
[17:23] <tanja_> when I install packages on 14.04 the system gets stuck on "updating mime-support"  -- any suggestions for how to fix it?
[17:24] <k1l_> tanja_: wait there to let it complete
[17:29] <Guest91764> hello everyone
[17:29] <daftykins> hi. ask a question if you have one.
[17:31] <Guest91764> I want to know how to open a local php file is in /home/user ? Should we move it to another location ?
[17:32] <xikkub> you have to put it in your web directory, or run it in a command line with 'php'
[17:32] <janslow> Guest91764 do you want to run it through the PHP command line interpreter, or run it through a web server with a PHP module like Apache+mod_php?
[17:34] <Guest91764> I every time, as response 127.0.0.1/file.php a 404 not found error
[17:35] <piranah> try 127.0.0.1/home/username/file.php
[17:35] <daftykins> you can't do that
[17:36] <eeee> Guest91764: do you have apache2 and php installed?
[17:36] <piranah> with userdir module enabled ?
[17:37] <Guest91764> eeee: Yes, I have a version mariadb
[17:38] <Guest91764> piranah: I just tried 127.0.0.1/home/username/file.php and it does not have market
[17:38] <piranah> I know i was off a bit
[17:38] <piranah> you need to enable that module
[17:39] <tanja> I waited for >15 mins for the system to set up mime-support, then it completely froze and I had to manually restart the computer
[17:39] <genii> I think the usual convention is http://wherever/~username
[17:39] <eeee> Guest91764: if you type localhost, does a page appear?
[17:39] <piranah> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/30673/how-do-i-create-web-pages-in-my-home-directory-and-have-the-web-server-serve-the
[17:39] <piranah> Follow the directions in that link
[17:39] <eeee> Guest91764: if you want, you can use a symlink, from /var/www to /home/<user>
[17:39] <daftykins> serving from your home seems a completely unnecessary risk.
[17:40] <Guest91764> janslow : That's to say ? They are the differences between the two ?
[17:41] <daftykins> !fr | Guest91764
[17:43] <Guest91764> eeee: yes it is local
[17:44] <Guest91764> piranah: Thanks for the link ! :)
[17:44] <kyle> hello
[17:44] <tanja> when installing packages the system (14.04) completely freezes on "setting up mime-support" . Any ideas how to fix this?
[17:45] <daftykins> tanja: installing packages as part of what process? you need to explain what you're actually doing
[17:45] <tanja> daftykins: e.g. installing updates
[17:46] <daftykins> tanja: provide some output via paste.ubuntu.com
[17:47] <L8-0151> hello
[17:48] <L8-0151>  am new on this..
[17:49] <tim_> hy all
[17:49] <L8-0151> can anyone see my messages?
[17:49] <parallax-lawrenc> yup
[17:49] <L8-0151> good lol
[17:49] <daftykins> L8-0151: waiting for a support question, yep
[17:50] <tim_> can some1 please help me over issues connecting xperia z2 to ubuntu?
[17:50] <L8-0151> can someone help me lol
[17:50] <tanja> daftykins: I pasted an example, no error messages it just freezes on mime support
[17:50] <parallax-lawrenc> not something i know aaaaanything about unfortunately L8!
[17:50] <tanja> daftykins: here is the http://paste.ubuntu.com/8352031/
[17:50] <parallax-lawrenc> Has anyone here used LDAP client authentication in LDAP server? Keep following the guides and keep somehow locking myself out
[17:51] <parallax-lawrenc> Most frustrating thing ever haha
[17:51] <daftykins> tanja: ok, well you're running a non-existant command there. it's "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" :)
[17:51] <L8-0151> i have a simple question
[17:51] <daftykins> !ask | L8-0151
[17:52] <L8-0151> how do i format a usb stick on this?
[17:53] <daftykins> L8-0151: run "Disks"
[17:53] <L8-0151> where sorry?
[17:54] <jkhl> having problems with playing audio in audacity, pulseaudio seems to be eating up 100% CPU and Memory
[17:54] <Inconnu> Hi !
[17:54] <Inconnu> I have a problem with multisystem
[17:55] <daftykins> L8-0151: click the 'Dash' icon top left, if this is Ubuntu, then type it
[17:55] <tanja> daftykins : yes, thanks. Please see the corrected version http://paste.ubuntu.com/8352047/  It complains because I killed the process when it was setting up the mime support (it would freeze the computer if I waited, tried this before).
[17:55] <tim_> can some1 please help me over issues connecting xperia z2 to ubuntu? any1 copy?
[17:55] <Nokiabot> .
[17:56] <Inconnu> Could someone help me ?
[17:56] <daftykins> tanja: try "dpkg -r mime-support" then "sudo apt-get clean" then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" then if that all goes well, "sudo apt-get install mime-support"
[17:56] <Beldar> !details
[17:57] <itissid> Hey guys does someone know how I can prevent postgres from auto starting after apt-get install on Ubuntu?
[17:57] <itissid> I have googled and saw http://askubuntu.com/questions/25713/how-to-stop-postgres-from-autostarting-during-start-up but thats for boot time.
[17:58] <daftykins> Beldar: hi sir
[17:58] <tanja> daftykins: there was an error, please see here http://paste.ubuntu.com/8352079/
[17:58] <Inconnu> Beldar: Ok, soI have this message  "TIMER refresh true" when I try to add an iso to my key; knowing that I use multisystem from Archlinux.
[17:58] <daftykins> tanja: ok, continue with the other steps instead
[17:59] <tim_> SONY EXPERIA Z2 - 2 - UBUNTU HELP?
[17:59] <daftykins> !touch | tim_
[17:59] <tim_> Thank u
[18:00] <L8-0151>  I have no dash icon.. Just Applications, Places and System
[18:00] <Beldar> Inconnu, multisystem is not a arch package, this is ubuntu support, ask the developer of multisystem.
[18:00] <theadmin> L8-0151: Which Ubuntu version are you even on?
[18:01] <daftykins> L8-0151: yeah which version and distro please
[18:01] <Inconnu> Beldar: Do you mean that I can't contact him know exept emails ?
[18:01] <L8-0151> Gnome Version 2.30.2
[18:02] <Beldar> Inconnu, You are not really making any sense, the app is quite easy to use, but is a 3rd party app not technically supported here. What OS are you using?
[18:02] <daftykins> L8-0151: that is not a distribution
[18:03] <theadmin> L8-0151: Regardless of which Ubuntu version you are on, anything with Gnome 2 is not supported anymore.
[18:03] <theadmin> L8-0151: You need to upgrade
[18:03] <L8-0151> sorry, Ubuntu... i installed backtrack 5 gnome 32
[18:04] <theadmin> L8-0151: Backtrack is not supported in this channel.
[18:04] <daftykins> L8-0151: then you cannot ask for help here.
[18:05] <L8-0151> where should i go?
[18:05] <tanja> daftykins: I did the next steps but again after the upgrade it got stuck on mime-support (used 100% of cpu for some time before I killed it). What else could I try to fix it?
[18:05] <gez> yo
[18:06] <tim_> is this also for normal installed phone's experia? or.. for rooted and reinstalled?
[18:06] <daftykins> tanja: maybe you should wait
[18:07] <daftykins> tim_: i directed you to the correct channel for touch talk, this is not it.
[18:08] <tim_> aha.. :-S
[18:08] <tim_> is it even possible to install this on pc comapnion on ubuntu?
[18:08] <daftykins> tim_: what is 'PC companion' ?
[18:09] <genii> tim_: No, i had the same problem, PC Companion will not run under WINE
[18:09] <tim_> sony pc companion - program comes with phone to have on pc stored things
[18:09] <tim_> no it does not run there.. :-S
[18:09] <tim_> so.. what can we do?
[18:10] <tim_> xgnoki was ok.. once upon a time..
[18:10] <tim_> :-D
[18:10] <Caramoan> how to change login screen on ubuntu 14.04?
[18:10] <daftykins> tim_: this is not smartphone support, sorry.
[18:10] <genii> tim_: Aside from petitioning Sony to make a linux version, not anything that can be done there, other than keep a dual-boot Windows/Linux system
[18:10] <daftykins> tim_: are you asking how to use Ubuntu to get files off your phone?
[18:11] <tim_> no.. i got bigger problems..
[18:11] <genii> daftykins: PC Companion is also for upgrading the firmware on Sony phones
[18:11] <daftykins> genii: ah i see
[18:11] <daftykins> yeah, Windows for you then.
[18:11] <tim_> my pc cd rom is kaput.. cant instal windows :-S
[18:11] <tim_> linux - usb
[18:11] <tim_> :-D saved the day
[18:11] <tim_> but not the julie
[18:13] <tim_> ok.. guys, tnx
[18:15] <itissid> So tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/74061/install-packages-without-starting-background-processes-and-services to make apt not start a process after installing. Is there something more elegant?
[18:19] <sixwheeledbeast> daftykins: I made a new Live USB and reinstall Ubuntu without the download updates option. All is well, thx. :)
[18:20] <daftykins> sixwheeledbeast: doesn't solve the problem though, you need to keep it up to date!
[18:20] <deSouza> my ubuntu store doesnt work
[18:22] <rberg_> itissid: I use "printf '#!/bin/sh\nexit 101\n' > /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d" to revent starting in a chroot, note that sshd still starts even with the diversion
[18:25] <jfcaron> I'm getting bzip2 data integrity errors when trying apt-get update on 12.04: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8352234/  I already searched online and tried a bunch of stuff, none of which worked.
[18:26] <daftykins> jfcaron: bad disk? memtest?
[18:27] <jfcaron> I haven't tried a disk check because the system's on a single partition.
[18:27] <jfcaron> I guess I need to make a bootable flash drive with gparted.
[18:28] <daftykins> jfcaron: well, i'd say check its' SMART status but i guess you're not going to be able to install that package right now :)
[18:29] <jfcaron> Yar, maybe it's already installed...
[18:29] <jfcaron> Nope, no smartctl.
[18:29] <jfcaron> I'll try to track down an install disk.
[18:34] <html5> hi
[18:35] <daftykins> greetings.
[18:35] <hayer> Ubuntu 14.04 as a Xen dom0 (host) - what are peoples opinion? pros vs. cons compared to other distros?
[18:35] <itissid> rberg_: But isn't that thing more like a global policy? Unless i delete that after install..
[18:36] <daftykins> hayer: Xen isn't the supported virt tech in ubuntu, KVM is, so you'd be fighting an uphill battle most likely
[18:37] <hayer> daftykins: well, I've seen lots of post on forums saying it is "good to go"? -- know I'm confused, and worried.
[18:39] <ubuntu> hi all
[18:39] <hayer> daftykins: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen  ?
[18:40] <daftykins> hayer: sorry i gotta go now, but it's up to you to find enough information to see whether you're comfortable enough to use it.
[18:41] <hayer> daftykins: well, asking here is kinda a step in "finding information"
[18:41] <daftykins> right, but it's volunteer run
[18:42] <rberg_> itissid: yeah it is, I delete it after I am done in the chroot
[18:42] <itissid> rberg_: OK thanks!
[18:43] <deSouza> is there anyone here who could help me?
[18:43] <zigsphere> Whats the question?
[18:43] <daftykins> deSouza: you have to ask your question with some proper detail first, not just "x dun work"
[18:43] <pbx> deSouza, ask your question. include context. use a pastebin for code snippets or terminal session snippets
[18:45] <deSouza> ok. I can't install anything with software center or via terminal, and i've uninstalled software center and now it says "package does not have candidate for installation". 14.04
[18:46] <tubbo> hi guys, i'm trying to install ubuntu 14.04 onto my PXE server, following the instructions on http://wernerstrydom.com/2014/05/25/automatically-installing-ubuntu-server-14-04-tftp/ ... when i try to `cp` files over, however, they all error out with the same message: "cp: reading `/mnt/loop/pool/main/y/yui3/libjs-yui3-min_3.5.1-1ubuntu3_all.deb': Input/output error"
[18:47] <junixbr> how can I configure a vnc server (tightvncserver) to show the gtk theme in remote screen?
[18:47] <junixbr> some tip?
[18:48] <tubbo> note that when i tried to mount the ISO like `mount -o loop -t iso9660 $PWD/ubuntu-14.04-server-amd64.iso /mnt/loop`, i got "mount: warning: /mnt/loop seems to be mounted read-only."
[18:48] <tubbo> is this normal?
[18:49] <rberg_> yes iso9660 is read only
[18:49] <tubbo> ok...it's not like i'm writing files to the disk so i assume that's ok
[18:50] <tubbo> just can't figure out why it seems like it's not able to read files off the ISO
[18:52] <rberg_> is the iso damaged? have you checked the md5/sha ?
[18:59] <kgalahassa> Hi I have a problem at boot  /dev/mapper/scriptswap1 is not yet ready to mount
[19:01] <kgalahassa> Hi I have a problem at boot  /dev/mapper/criptswap1 is not yet ready to mount
[19:07] <lonewulf> Hey everyone I have a need for assistance, I am having trouble getting my RT3290sta PCIE card in my laptop to work correctly.
[19:09] <Xcrox> does sombody know how much swap i need if i got 24 gig ram? :)
[19:09] <lonewulf> Xcrox: If you have 24 gig of ram swap is not necessary.
[19:10] <Xcrox> really?
[19:10] <boriseto> Xcrox, you will need swap if you put your PC/Laptop on hibernate. If not, you don't need swap.
[19:10] <pavlos> Xcrox, just give it 2GB just to have some ...
[19:11] <lonewulf> Xcrox: Yes anything over 6gig of ram you do not necessarily  need swap.
[19:11] <rberg_> * depends entirely on what you are doing!
[19:11] <acovrig> I have an ubuntu server with an external facing nic, I need to redirect 1195 UDP to an internal address, it doesn't seem to be working, just for sanity's sake I tried also redirecting 2222 -> internal:22, SSH fails with "ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer" any ideas?
[19:11] <Xcrox> hehe how do i know if i need hibernation?
[19:12] <lonewulf> Please networking problem
[19:13] <boriseto> Xcrox, first, what do you own, laptop or PC? And is your hard disk SSD?
[19:14] <debuser> is there a way to install ubuntu 14.04 without unity?
[19:14] <Xcrox> PC, no SSD
[19:14] <rww> debuser: yes, use one of the flavors instead (Xubuntu for Xfce, Kubuntu for KDE, etc.)
[19:14] <boriseto> Xcrox, and do you know what "Hibernate" is? :)
[19:15] <hayer> boriseto: get state -> write to disk -> when "awaken" read state from disk -> resume operations
[19:15] <Xcrox> computer ZZZzzzzZZZ?
[19:15] <debuser> i want to use this as a server i dont need gfx
[19:15] <rww> debuser: there's a Server ISO
[19:16] <boriseto> Xcrox, what hayer  said. :)
[19:16] <rww> debuser: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[19:16] <hayer> debuser: when at the start of the installer press F4 and choose minimal
[19:17] <debuser> i tried this, but this pc is too bad,  its about 10 to 15 years old.
[19:17] <Xcrox> boriseto, i have no idea if needdd that?
[19:19] <boriseto> Xcrox, you don't need it much. ;) I think it's disabled by default in Ubuntu (not sure about the 14.04 though).
[19:19] <debuser> i just want the computer to build my homeworks (programming in lazarus)
[19:25] <Xcrox> boriseto, i read somewhere in internet, is better to have swap than not to have xD
[19:25] <boriseto> Xcrox, well there you go. I use it because of low ram and that I use hibernation.
[19:27] <Xcrox> boriseto, do u use laptop?
[19:28] <boriseto> Xcrox, yeap. And I use it for gaming as well. :)
[19:29] <Xcrox> but hibernation for for pc really good?
[19:32] <boriseto> Xcrox, depends. For example whenever I go on long trips if I work on something and didn't quite finish it, I hibernate the laptop and continue when I get a power source. It basically stores everything from my RAM memory on the hard drive (the swap partition). And when I turn it on, it gets everything from swap and puts it in RAM, so I continue where I left off.
[19:32] <Pici> /36/70
[19:42] <nusr> hi i'm trying to flush my dns on ubuntu. i did it for my winxp but i can't do it for 14.4. i did /etc/init.d/nscd restart but i'm getting command not found
[19:42] <ikonia> thats because nscd isn't installed
[19:43] <nusr> ok
[19:43] <nusr> is it sudo aptitude install nscd?
[19:43] <nusr> or sudo apt-get install nscd
[19:43] <tinkerbot> either or
[19:43] <ikonia> why do you want to install it ?
[19:43] <ikonia> you've just said you want to flush it, yet you didn't even know it wasn't installed
[19:43] <nusr> ok
[19:43] <ikonia> so if thats the case why do you want it ?
[19:44] <nusr> i'm trying to switch over the openDNS
[19:44] <ikonia> you don't need nscd for that
[19:44] <sfdebug> hi, i would like to install postfix package without run the config script that is prompted on the shell... does any one have idea how to do this?
[19:44] <nusr> i've configured opendns and the guide on opendns site say i should flush my dns cache
[19:44] <ikonia> nusr: right, so you don't need nscd
[19:44] <ikonia> as you don't have a caching daemon running
[19:45] <ikonia> so why do you want to install something you don't need/is't applicable
[19:45] <nusr> ok so there is not cache running so i don't need to flush anything
[19:45] <nusr> maybe just flush mozilla cache?
[19:45] <ikonia> nusr: right, it would not make sense to install a caching daemon to flush it
[19:45] <ikonia> nusr: no
[19:45] <ikonia> that's web cache, nothing to do with dns
[19:46] <nusr> ok i thought i set openDNS by following some instructions on the net but i checked my settings and it is still my isp dns
[19:46] <nusr> openISP has instructions for everything but linux
[19:47] <nusr> and i'm just getting info from websites
[19:47] <nusr> how can i set openDNS in ubuntu?
[19:47] <ikonia> what do you mean "set it"
[19:47] <nusr> to the openDNS settings
[19:48] <nusr> i want to change ipv4 to 208.67.222.222
[19:49] <ikonia> you want to point your ubuntu machine to use 208.67.222.222 as a dns server ?
[19:49] <nusr> i did this from linuxquestions.org   cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf save
[19:49] <nusr> yes
[19:49] <Dastada> Hi all :)
[19:49] <ikonia> nusr: that won't work on ubuntu
[19:49] <ikonia> nusr: ubuntu uses dnsmasq by default
[19:49] <Dastada> Where is general Ubuntu chat?
[19:50] <ikonia> Dastada: this is for chat about ubuntu
[19:50] <nusr> ikonia: ok so do i need open DNS?
[19:50] <ikonia> nusr: you need it ?
[19:50] <ikonia> thats up to you if you need it or not
[19:50] <nusr> ikonia: yes
[19:50] <ikonia> I don't believe you do - but I don't know your situation
[19:50] <nusr> i probably don't but it would be nice to know how to do it
[19:51] <ikonia> then research setting dnsmasq servers
[19:51] <Bashing-om> !ubuntu-offtopic
[19:51] <Bashing-om> win 8
[19:52] <ikonia> Bashing-om: ?
[19:52]  * expunge wins 8 times
[19:52] <nusr> ok i'm looking at a few hits...it is complicated
[19:52] <superkuh> I sure do wish Apport supported copying from the text it shows.
[19:52] <nusr> as an alternative...can't i use openDNS on my router?
[19:52] <ikonia> nusr: sure
[19:52] <nusr> then ubuntu will go through that and use DNAmasq?
[19:52] <Bashing-om> ikonia: Sheesshh, do not recall the specific for ubuntu-offtopic for the general chat channel ..
[19:53] <Pici> Bashing-om: its just #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:53] <ikonia> Bashing-om: it's not win 8
[19:53] <Pici> ikonia: thats an irssi command to go to window 8. /win 8
[19:53] <Bashing-om> Dastada: ^^ thanks Pici !
[19:53] <ikonia> ahhh /win 8
[19:54] <BluesKaj> nusr, if you have access to your router/modem software thru a browser then you can usually set your dns server to manual and enter the opendns server IPs, for example, in the field provided
[19:55] <Bashing-om> ikonia: Maybe I best do another caffene injection .
[19:55] <diederik_> hello, i have a fresh vps 14.04 install, but i do net get network connection, netstat -r is clean and if i add manually the *-network interface shows offline
[19:55] <ikonia> Bashing-om: not at all, I need to apply better logic
[19:55] <diederik_> is that a host problem , or my vps setting
[19:55] <nusr> bluesKaj: thanks i'm trying that now..once i manually set openDNS on the router...ubuntu will stil have masqDNS?
[19:55] <nusr> i don't know what masqDNS is
[19:56] <ikonia> nusr: ubuntu uses dnsmasq by default
[19:56] <nusr> dnsmasq is some privacy thing?
[19:56] <nusr> to stop dns leak?
[19:56] <nusr> as in masking?
[19:56] <ikonia> nusr: sort of
[19:56] <ikonia> not masking no
[19:57] <BluesKaj> nusr, dnsmasq works on your local network ,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dnsmasq
[19:59] <DF3D2> 1
[20:00] <nusr> BluesKaj: thanks for that...so DNSmasq is a local DNS? not sure what a local DNS is. but i'm gonig to try changing the router now and see what happens
[20:00] <nusr> i'll be back after disconnection
[20:00] <vmcutli[> I am having trouble with IP Aliases on 14.04
[20:02] <erikk> How i can minimize the XChat to the system area?
[20:02] <nusr> ok i just changed my router dns
[20:03] <erikk> I think ubuntu have prblems on that
[20:03] <nusr> but ubuntu network information is still showing the default isp dns
[20:03] <nusr> do i disconnect and try again?
[20:04] <Xcrox> how much do i need  if gonna have hibernation?
[20:04] <expunge> Xcrox: swap?
[20:04] <erikk> ram?
[20:04] <expunge> Xcrox: same as ram is a good approach
[20:05] <21WABA6GD> hello, i've no sound on sopcast-player and vlc :S help
[20:05] <Xcrox> yea
[20:10] <newbie|3> Looking for help with "boinc".  Used for Seti At Home. Doesn't work.  How can I get it to work?
[20:11] <nusr> thanks ikonia BluesKaj
[20:12] <marianne> ok... stupid question time... both boxes are on ubuntu 14.04 ... and someone please point me to a simple doc for LAN setup
[20:12] <expunge> marianne: what is it you'd like to setup?
[20:13] <marianne> I would just like to have the ability to move files from one box to the other
[20:13] <vegaserrana> Hello, I am trying to create a symlink from Apache's var/www directory to a directory on a Windows NTFS drive.  The web browser states that the files do not have permission to be accessed.  However, when trying to change permissions of either the symlink or the NTFS directory using sudo nautilus, nautilus crashes.  I also cannot seem to edit the permissions of either the symlink or the NTFS directory using Thunar either.  I a
[20:13] <vegaserrana> m currently on Ubuntu Studio with XFCE.
[20:14] <wheatthin> hmm
[20:14] <expunge> marianne: couple approaches here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/156169/how-do-i-set-up-file-sharing-between-two-ubuntu-laptops-on-my-wireless-network
[20:14] <wheatthin> is there still an hfsprogs or hfsutils ?
[20:14] <grobe0ba> vegaserrana: i would recommend manually specifying mount options for the drive that give the correct user/group access for the web server
[20:15] <expunge> wheatthin: ask apt-file
[20:15] <Bashing-om> marianne: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159449 <-easiest way to cp files 'tween two Lubuntus that share the same router/house (Morbius1) .
[20:15] <marianne> expunge: Thank you, I'll check them out
[20:16] <wheatthin> :D <3's his net   14MB/sec
[20:16] <expunge> MB or mbit? =)
[20:16] <wheatthin> megabyte :)
[20:16] <vegaserrana> @grove0ba I am not sure how to do that, the drive is mounted though, I can navigate the directory on the web browser, it just cannot display any of the files due to not having read permission
[20:17] <grobe0ba> man mount  and  man fstab
[20:17] <grobe0ba> ntfs drives are mounted with uid/gid of the person who mounted them
[20:17] <grobe0ba> in the case, you. changing the permission will have no effect
[20:17] <grobe0ba> since it's not a real file system, it's ntfs
[20:17] <m3n3chm0> hello, i've no sound on sopcast-player and vlc :S any clue ??
[20:18] <grobe0ba> the drive will have to be unmounted, the correct options specified either on the command line for an ephermal mount, or in fstab for a more permanent setup
[20:18] <grobe0ba> in all likelihood, you will be better off in the long run simply migrating the files off of said ntfs drive
[20:19] <GothSpark> hi I got a polkit like this one http://goo.gl/eb1E5C but I only have libpolkit installed
[20:19] <expunge> wheatthin: megabyte or mebibyte? =P
[20:19] <vegaserrana> would it be easier to move Apache's default directory to the NTFS drive instead of using a symlink from var/www to the NTFS drive?
[20:19] <wheatthin> big M big B :P
[20:19] <grobe0ba> vegaserrana: you will still have permissions problem unless you deal with mounting it correctly
[20:20] <grobe0ba> that's why i'm saying it's better to migrate them off
[20:20] <vegaserrana> that would be better for me I think, I do not want to have all the files duplicated on two drives, I want them just on NTFS so they can be accessed by both Linux and Windows
[20:20] <expunge> wheatthin: ambiguous! =P
[20:21] <grobe0ba> so, read the manpage for mount, and the manpage for fstab
[20:21] <grobe0ba> that'll tell you how to go about doing it
[20:21] <wheatthin> Upload Speed: 12087 kbps (1510.9 KB/sec transfer rate)    sorry for that
[20:22] <expunge> ooh, nice up
[20:22] <pale3> hi I am trying to build firehol latest stable package. which I will afterall put in ppa. Issue is, that firehol now consist of two bin file (firehol,fireqos). Both binary files needs to have its init scripts for start,stop.. In firehol/debian/ i created two init and two default files, but I am not able to add them upon building package. Can anyone help
[20:22] <wheatthin> :)
[20:22] <wheatthin> my server be jammin :P
[20:23] <vegaserrana> I don't think I want to change the permissions for the entire drive though, just the one directory
[20:24] <grobe0ba> vegaserrana: is not possible with ntfs
[20:24] <baumberg> Hi. I just upgraded to 14.04 and now I have WiFi issue. I believe the firmware is ok because it detects the time capsule router I'm using. I think something could be wrong with the DHCP but I'm not sure. Any helpful advice what to investigate next?
[20:24] <grobe0ba> the permissions system is not compatible
[20:24] <grobe0ba> another option though, is mount it with your uid, the web server group gid, and mode 770
[20:24] <grobe0ba> that'll let you and the web server get to the drive
[20:25] <nym-j> nabend
[20:26] <guntbert> !de | nym-j
[20:26] <vegaserrana> yes but changing the permission of the entire drive so it can be accessed by the webserver is a terrible idea, very unsecure, I only want the one directory accesible
[20:27] <vegaserrana> can I just put the default directory for localhost on the NTFS drive instead of using a symlink?
[20:27] <grobe0ba> NO
[20:27] <grobe0ba> the webserver will still have no access
[20:27] <wheatthin> Umm you should use the www-data group for changing permissions on specific folders needed for apache2
[20:27] <grobe0ba> you will get the same errors
[20:27] <grobe0ba> wheatthin: it's an NTFS drive
[20:27] <grobe0ba> unless something has changed radically, permissions are still not compatible
[20:27] <grobe0ba> and never bloody will be
[20:28] <nym-j> hi, how in the world i can change to the classic view on ubuntu 13.10
[20:28] <wheatthin> it doesn't matter. After permissions are enabled in /etc/fstab, and then it's mounted, then it's a specific folder via group
[20:29] <grobe0ba> wheatthin: you walk her through it then. last time i used ntfs from anything not windows it was all or nothing
[20:29] <vegaserrana> what about a fat32 drive?  I suppose I could create a new fat32 partition to hold the files I want hosted by Apache, I just need them on a filesystem that can be read by both Windows and Linux
[20:30] <grobe0ba> vegaserrana: once again, you'd have to specify the correct uid/gid for mounting
[20:30] <grobe0ba> other option is to read ext4 from windows
[20:30] <grobe0ba> which is quite possible
[20:31] <vegaserrana> I've never been able to view or access any ext4 files from Windows, how is that possible?
[20:31] <GothSpark> vegaserrana> drivers :3
[20:31] <grobe0ba> vegaserrana: this is a commercial offering for doing so: http://www.paragon-software.com/home/extfs-windows/
[20:32] <grobe0ba> i've also used an open-source one
[20:32] <grobe0ba> i'll see if i cant find it
[20:32] <grobe0ba> also not sure if it's been updated for anything newer than xp
[20:32] <GothSpark> it has :34
[20:32] <expunge> http://www.ext2fsd.com/ works well
[20:32] <grobe0ba> ah
[20:32] <grobe0ba> http://www.ext2fsd.com/
[20:32] <grobe0ba> yeah, that's what i was going for, expunge :P
[20:32] <expunge> grobe0ba: working well? silly!
[20:33] <GothSpark> I need assistance with polkit,  *getting a popup spam right now*
[20:33] <vegaserrana> I'm trying to set up both Windows IIS and Apache Server for LAN (local) use on a PC with dual-boot, that way whichever operating system I am on, the same files would be hosted by either IIS or Apache
[20:34] <expunge> vegaserrana: what was the ln stuff you tried?
[20:34] <vegaserrana> yes I need free, not paid software ;-)
[20:34] <grobe0ba> expunge: the problem is the ntfs mounted drive and permissions
[20:35] <grobe0ba> afaik (which apparently has changed) is that you have to mount the entire drive with a set uid/gid
[20:35] <grobe0ba> someone said you can change individual directories now
[20:35] <grobe0ba> i have no clue though, so
[20:38] <expunge> grobe0ba: oh hey vega
[20:38] <vegaserrana> hm, Paragon ExtFS is freeware it says, but would it allow IIS 8 on Windows to host files from an ext4 partition?
[20:38] <ikonia> vegaserrana: it's a bad idea
[20:38] <ikonia> ext file systems on windows systems = problem
[20:39] <vegaserrana> *Windows 8.1
[20:40] <vegaserrana> I would that with Linux usually being the more versatile system, it would be easier to keep the files on the Windows partition and have Apache on Linux access them from there, rather than vice versa with Windows IIS accessing the files from the Linux partition
[20:40] <ikonia> vegaserrana: how does this relate to ubuntu
[20:41] <expunge> he's trying to get apache to do something
[20:41] <vegaserrana> I am trying to figure out how to get Apache on Ubuntu Studio to display files from an NTFS Windows partition, or to get the default Apache directory on Ubuntu changed to a location on a Windows NTFS drive instead
[20:42] <expunge> but he ignores people's questions =P
[20:42] <ikonia> vegaserrana: this is not a wise thing to do
[20:42] <ikonia> vegaserrana: the ntfs file system has no permissions available so the web server would be exposed
[20:43] <vegaserrana> *she; it seems messy trying to get IIS to host files from the Linux partition even if that is possible, I would think it'd be easier for Apache to host the files from the Windows partition instead
[20:43] <ikonia> vegaserrana: not interested in hosting IIS servers
[20:43] <ikonia> vegaserrana: however I strongly advise you not to proceeed trying to host files on NTFS on linux
[20:43] <ikonia> vegaserrana: just move the files to a supported file system
[20:44] <TLoFP> hi all, anyone have experience with clonezilla?
[20:44] <expunge> they're both easy AFAIK
[20:44] <expunge> TLoFP: yes, some ones have
[20:44] <vegaserrana> it is for LAN/local use, not a public webserver
[20:44] <ikonia> TLoFP: there is a clonezilla support forum
[20:44] <TLoFP> expunge, id like to store the images I create on the same usb stick that I boot from
[20:44] <ikonia> vegaserrana: I still strongly advise against it
[20:44] <ikonia> not clonezilla
[20:44] <ikonia> TLoFP: we deal with ubuntu here
[20:44] <grobe0ba> vegaserrana: run your windows partition in a virtual machine whilst in linux
[20:45] <wheatthin> vegaserrana, IIS is too much overhead for hosting anything really. Good luck
[20:45] <TLoFP> ikonia, I am trying to clone a Ubuntu machine (loophole :P)
[20:45] <ikonia> TLoFP: no loop hole
[20:45] <ikonia> TLoFP: please use the clonezilla support services
[20:46] <expunge> TLoFP: what're the images for?
[20:46] <vegaserrana> @grobe0ba that might work, VirtualBox on Ubuntu can mount NTFS directories to a webserver on a virtual PC yes?
[20:47] <TLoFP> expunge, just makeing images of preconfigured ubuntu machines, instead of doing a dirty dd i thought id give clonezilla a try (but sounds like I am in the wrong channel, don't wanna getmyself or you in trouble)
[20:48] <grobe0ba> vegaserrana: not what i was saying
[20:48] <expunge> TLoFP: pretty sure clonezilla also makes big images, like dd
[20:48] <grobe0ba> boot the entire windows partition, with that other drive also attached to the VM
[20:48] <expunge> only more ambiguously, not less
[20:48] <vegaserrana> I'll try to see if it works, that might be the quickest and safest solution, instead of using two servers on two OS's, have one server on VirtualBox that be run from either OS...
[20:48] <grobe0ba> so there is not cross-contaminating shenanigans
[20:48] <grobe0ba> vegaserrana: i assure, it's a better route
[20:49] <expunge> TLoFP: I use sfdisk and a tarball or rsync -apv copy for Unix clones, personally; bit like this http://mark.koli.ch/howto-whole-disk-backups-with-dd-gzip-and-p7zip
[20:49] <smart_developer> How do I make it so that logrotate only checks a certain file on an hourly basis, while it continues to check the rest of the system files on a daily basis?
[20:49] <vegaserrana> just don't like the idea of eating up all the RAM for VirtualBox to run a server in the background :-(
[20:49] <ikonia> smart_developer: this is not log rotate support
[20:49] <ikonia> smart_developer: you're not doing the home work - this is not an ubuntu issue
[20:50] <grobe0ba> vegaserrana: since all you'll be needing it for is letting it serve http, you won't need that much
[20:50] <grobe0ba> i'd call it 1gb max, just enough to get it to boot, basically
[20:50] <grobe0ba> it should be able to serve http after that without too much trouble
[20:50] <expunge> vegaserrana: or you could just use dropbox/et al. =P
[20:50] <Bashing-om> nym
[20:50] <grobe0ba> that being said, it IS iis, and windows
[20:51] <pale3_> is it possible to have two package.init files in package/debian/ rules dir?
[20:51] <ikonia> pale3_: I don't think so
[20:52] <smart_developer> ikonia : Any suggestions on which channels I should ask in?
[20:52] <smart_developer> Thanks.
[20:52] <ikonia> smart_developer: no
[20:53] <pale3_> I am wondering how do I then add two init scripts from one package (because package have two binaries)?
[20:53] <kgalahassa> Hi I have a problem at boot  /dev/mapper/criptswap1 is not yet ready to mount
[20:53] <grobe0ba> pale3_: do two packages that depend on each other?
[20:54] <maestrojed> I am trying to change the owner and group recursively on a directory. I am getting "Operation not permitted". I have run this with sudo and even switch to the root user and ran it that way. Considering I am root, what would prevent this operation?
[20:54] <maestrojed> [13:51:25]  <NetEcho>	 PhantomS ok in that respect, it won't actually take a full 1T
[20:54] <grobe0ba> maestrojed: if the acl is set to not allow it, that could cause it
[20:54] <pale3_> no there is one package name: firehol which consist of two binaries, firehol and fireqos, both of them needs innit scripts for startup
[20:55] <grobe0ba> if the directory is mounted on a read-only filesystem
[20:55] <GothSpark> I have an error in GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 it say there is more than one authentification agent  for the given subject, I am on lxde*clean install* and I only have libpolkit installed, http://goo.gl/eb1E5C this http://goo.gl/eb1E5C did not help me
[20:55] <grobe0ba> pale3_: i'm saying distribute it as two seperate packages that depend on each other
[20:55] <grobe0ba> i dont do package development though, so that could be very wrong
[20:55] <ikonia> there is a way to do it
[20:56] <maestrojed> grobe0ba what is "aci"? I googled it but I am unsure. I can create other files and directories so its not the entire filesystem
[20:56] <vegaserrana> well thanks for the help, going to try a couple of the suggestions to see what works best
[20:56] <pale3_> mybe y know any channel to ask such question?
[20:56] <cassidyslivers> Any "Vega" users here? I'm having some difficulties getting it working on Ubuntu.
[20:56] <grobe0ba> maestrojed: ACL. Access Control List
[20:57] <maestrojed> grobe0ba ok, I will look it up. Thx
[20:57] <grobe0ba> np
[20:57] <grobe0ba> vegaserrana: yw
[20:57] <vegaserrana> @maestrojed that is what I logged in to get help with, is it on NTFS?  I got the same error with sudo
[20:57] <smart_developer> Could anyone point me to some channels for questions regarding the logrotate utility?
[20:58] <ikonia> smart_developer: we are not a yellow pages
[20:58] <ikonia> smart_developer: this channel is for ubuntu discussion,
[20:58] <expunge> smart_developer: logrotate or cron man pages should suffice
[20:58] <smart_developer> Basically, I want to know whether it's possible to set up logrotate so that it will check certain files hourly, and all the rest of the system files on the normal (default) daily basis.
[20:58] <maestrojed> vegaserrana no, its not NTFS
[20:59] <maestrojed> vegaserrana well...
[21:00] <maestrojed> vegaserrana its nfs. I thought it was ext. but nfs is not ntfs, correct?
[21:01] <vegaserrana> according to @grobe0ba, permissions don't work the same on NTFS as with ext4, dunno about NFS
[21:01] <grobe0ba> nfs is the network file system
[21:02] <grobe0ba> it has been part of *nix since the 80s
[21:02] <grobe0ba> ntfs is the NT File System
[21:02] <grobe0ba> specific to microsoft
[21:02] <grobe0ba> completely different
[21:02] <grobe0ba> nfs4 supports both traditional permissions as well as ACLs
[21:02] <grobe0ba> whereas ntfs on *nix supports zilch in the way of permissions for ntfs, because they are almost entirely imcompatbile
[21:02] <grobe0ba> *incompatible
[21:03] <grobe0ba> vegaserrana: also, on irc, we do not preface people's nicks with an @
[21:03] <grobe0ba> save it for twitter
[21:03] <vegaserrana> I don't suppose Microsoft will ever roll over and start using ext4 to install Windows 9+ on? lol :-p
[21:03] <expunge> you don't suppose correctly
[21:03] <grobe0ba> no, but i know if i don't go get food now, i will roll over into my grave
[21:04] <maestrojed> vegaserrana ok, thanks
[21:04] <vegaserrana> oh sorry LOL
[21:05] <maestrojed> cal is not installed.
[21:05] <maestrojed> acl that is
[21:07] <vegaserrana> maybe by Windows 10...  a girl can dream lol
[21:08] <expunge> yeah that windows... know what I mean? =P
[21:09] <compdoc> we dont allow dreaming in here
[21:10] <grobe0ba> maestrojed: its not a program
[21:10] <grobe0ba> its part of linux. google for it.
[21:10] <sqpat> im running a mysql ubuntu server on a VM and ive got 100% cpu utilization, i'd like to determine if it's due to disk I/O, what commands might i look this up with ?
[21:10] <grobe0ba> i dont use them, so ive no clue.
[21:10] <maestrojed> grobe0ba ok, thx
[21:11] <sqpat> I made some changes to mysql and my VM console reported a drop from 4.5 MB/S to 1.7 MB/S in disk write I/O but the CPU utilization is still 100% so i want to make sure i'm actually bottlenecked by I/O..
[21:11] <ikonia> sqpat: top/iostat/vmstat
[21:11] <superkuh> sqpat, I use "io" from http://kernel.embedromix.ro/us/
[21:12] <superkuh> It is like all the other io top programs but better.
[21:12] <sqpat> ok, thanks, I'll try those
[21:12] <superkuh> Part of 'pwatch'
[21:12] <sqpat> im aware of top
[21:12] <sqpat> but i don't think it's clear why the CPU% is what it is and if its due to I/O?
[21:12] <ikonia> use the tools
[21:13] <ikonia> you'll either see io locking the cpu, or the cpu causing a wait on io
[21:16] <energizer> My symlink is born broken. Help plz:    ln -s ~/Dropbox/Mendeley/db/Mendeley\ Desktop Mendeley\ Desktop/
[21:17] <expunge> energizer: what makes you think it's broken?
[21:17] <linux-user_ai> Hello, I can load ubuntu as an iso to my hard drive or pen drive with dd and it loads fine, but when I install to the hard drive it boots to "Operation System not found" , yep "Operation"
[21:18] <linux-user_ai> Dell inspiron with windows 8 on the second hard drive, ubuntu on the first hard drive
[21:18] <expunge> sounds like you've confused whatever boot loader you're using
[21:19] <ikonia> I'm sure the error is "operating system"
[21:19] <energizer> expunge: thanks i was typing the directory wrong. (of course i was)
[21:19] <linux-user_ai> I've read a little about GPT partitions and using gdisk... but that hasn't really solved the problem.
[21:20] <expunge> energizer: =)
[21:20] <vegaserrana> GPT rocks, use it on my laptop
[21:21] <expunge> energizer: if you use TAB completion, there's less guessing
[21:31] <Quantumpants> evening all :0
[21:32] <expunge> evenin'
[21:32] <larsantos> hi
[21:33] <expunge> ohai
[21:48] <linux-user_ai> Hello, I can load ubuntu as an iso to my hard drive or pen drive with dd and it loads fine, but when I install to the hard drive it boots to "Operation System not found" , yep "Operation"
[21:54] <Beldar> linux-user_ai, The install has this error?
[21:54] <linux-user_ai> yes
[21:54] <linux-user_ai> I tried version 12 and 14
[21:54] <Beldar> linux-user_ai, Is there more than one HD, is this a raid install...etc?
[21:55] <linux-user_ai> Yes, but I removed the second hard drive and it still gives the error...
[21:55] <linux-user_ai> The install is on the first hard drive
[21:55] <Beldar> linux-user_ai, another OS, a dual boot? Did you remove the HD before the install?
[21:56] <linux-user_ai> Yes there is windows on the second hard drive...
[21:56] <Beldar> linux-user_ai, W8? Does this computer have a UEFI bios?
[21:56] <linux-user_ai> Yes and Yes!
[21:57] <linux-user_ai> Tried legacy with no luck though...
[21:57] <linux-user_ai> I can try again with this install though.
[21:57] <Beldar> linux-user_ai, Had you looked through the UEFI wiki before this, I have no real help in this area is all.
[21:58] <akurilin> trickle question: is it normal that trickle takes up 100% of the cpu when I use it against something like Chrome?
[21:59] <akurilin> makes the whole browser crazy sluggish, not just the connection itself
[22:03] <mijk> hi, I can't figure out how to change the resolution of the shell in ubuntu server
[22:04] <mijk> I've tried editing the grub and 00_header config files and updating grub
[22:04] <mijk> doesn't seem to work
[22:07] <IIPWNEDII> hello bonjour
[22:08] <william101> IIPWNEDII: hello
[22:10] <Bashing-om> mijk: What is the native resolution of your monitor ? .. I change the resolution in '/etc/default/grub' at line "GRUB_GFXMODE=1600x900" .
[22:10] <mijk> 1366x768
[22:10] <mijk> but, it's in Virtualbox
[22:11] <Bashing-om> mijk: Can't say about VM .. others will have to advise better.
[22:11] <k1l_> mijk: make sure the guest additions are installed to support the "video output"
[22:11] <mijk> will I need X11 installed?
[22:12] <k1l_> not that i am aware off
[22:12] <mijk> yeah,  I installed the guest additions
[22:18] <crose> hello, i'm using xubuntu 14.04 and every time i log out, the keyboard shortcut (super + D) to show desktop doesn't work anymore, i have to set it up again, anyone knows how to make xfce4 remember this particular shortcut ?
[22:28] <SkyCaptain> I'm having some trouble with a fresh install of 14.04 on my EEE PC 1005HA
[22:28] <SkyCaptain> Basically, right shift can make the |, but with left shift, I get no response
[22:28] <SkyCaptain> that same key produces \ without shift fine
[22:29] <SkyCaptain> I've tried a lot of stuff, but can't seem to find any resources on fixing this issue, and reinstalling from Mint 17, to 14.04 desktop, to 14.04 server makes no difference
[22:29] <cortexman> any thoughts on this linker error? https://gist.githubusercontent.com/brianmingus/88d8682d3685f915fdaf/raw/e0ac07bdc34cc0fc9040c54e3bbd8cd544584fe5/gistfile1.txt
[22:34] <trism> cortexman: -lfreetype needs to go after the objects referencing it
[22:34] <gr33n7007h> cortexman, that'll be better asked in #c also all links at the end of the command
[22:34] <trism> cortexman: same for the rest of the -llibrary args, so pretty much just move the .o files to the beginning of that command
[22:36] <cortexman> that does seem to have fixed most of the problems thanks. although that link command was generated by autoconf..
[22:36] <derFiet> good evening (or whatever time it is at your locale)
[22:36] <geirha> that means configure.ac has the bug
[22:37] <cortexman> ugh.. i can't wait to edit the configure.ac of a 7 y/o package
[22:37] <cortexman> and try to run autoconf on it.. and watch it barf everywhere for three days
[22:37] <Guest32116> exit
[22:37] <Guest32116> exit
[22:38] <k1l_> Guest32116: /exit
[22:38] <geirha> cortexman: With a 7 year old gcc, that command would've worked
[22:38] <cortexman> hmmm
[22:38] <cortexman> i don't think that will work though. i'd have to setup a vm with an ancient ubuntu
[22:38] <cortexman> cant just plop it onto my current dist
[22:39] <geirha> it means that gcc at some point turned options into operators
[22:40] <geirha> with options, the order of them does not matter. With operators, order matters. Don't know why they would break backward compatability like that though
[22:40] <cortexman> afaict this configure.in is extremely short and vanilla
[22:40] <cortexman> there is no room for the author to have made the error
[22:41] <pocheche> Hi
[22:43] <geirha> cortexman: well, it wasn't an error seven years ago, as far as I know. I was taken by surprise by this change too. I think it was around 4.0 it happened
[22:48] <thoonai> heyho
[22:49] <thoonai> I hope I'm right here: I want to set up an debian ldap-server to manage the users on the ubuntu workstations
[22:50] <thoonai> well I can also take an ubuntu server, to manage the user accounts ^^, but I have to take debian as server. So I could need just some simple tutotial for setting up user authentication for logging in on the workstations
[22:54] <pocheche> Would like to encrypt the whole hard disk were my Ubuntu installation is, except /boot ofcourse, is there any way to do it?
[22:54] <pocheche> Truecrypt can't do it _jack_
[22:54] <pocheche> Sorry
[22:54] <thoonai> pocheche: if you have your system already installed, its no good I think
[22:54] <cortexman> remarkably, i managed to hack configure.ac and Makefile.am into submission and run autoreconf and fix the prob
[22:55] <pocheche> I guess
[22:55] <rww> it's doable, but annoying enough that you're better off backing up and reinstalling
[22:55] <rww> and the installer has an option for full-disk encryption
[22:55] <thoonai> pocheche: you can mark an partition as encrypted in the installation process
[22:55] <thoonai> and then configure the encrypted volume to be mounted at /
[22:55] <pocheche> I know
[22:55] <cortexman> geirha trism gr33n7007h tx
[22:55] <thoonai> pocheche: so its possible :)
[22:55] <pocheche> But don't want to reinstall
[22:56] <rww> then you're going to spend longer figuring out how to do it manually than you would spend reinstalling and re-setting stuff up
[22:56] <rww> i know, I've done it, it sucked
[22:56] <rww> would not do again
[22:56] <pocheche> Jajajjaajja
[22:56] <pocheche> Okay
[22:56] <pocheche> I see
[22:56] <pocheche> Well
[22:56] <Dastada> oi
[22:57] <thoonai> pocheche: so I think you have to copy all the stuff out of / to an external hdd, recreate the partition, configure the kernel mount stuff, copy back ...
[22:57] <thoonai> pocheche: I'd suggest a reinstall too
[22:57] <pocheche> Yes
[22:58] <pocheche> Well
[22:58] <thoonai> so I'll ask in #debian for the server configuration and come back later for help with the client configuration :_
[22:58] <thoonai> :)
[22:58] <pocheche> Seems the better option
[22:58] <pocheche> Thank u all
[23:00] <jimmyxd> como faço pra conectar o ubuntu na internet ?
[23:00] <thoonai> pocheche: Youre welcome :)
[23:00] <pocheche> Dou you know what type of encryption use oem encryption?
[23:00] <thoonai> what is oem encryption?
[23:00] <pocheche> Well
[23:00] <eeee> pocheche: SHA512 probably
[23:00] <thoonai> I'd go for xts-plain 64
[23:00] <pocheche> Luks
[23:01] <k1l_> !br | jimmyxd
[23:01] <eeee> nevermind
[23:01] <pocheche> Well going to googled
[23:02] <pocheche> Thanks again
[23:02] <jimmyxd> !br
[23:02] <jimmyxd> ty
[23:05] <Arianna23>  You can find funny videos here. http://tinyurl.com/ozfvxy3
[23:05] <netlar> What is the Search shortcut do.  I tried to assign a shortcut key but it does nothing
[23:11] <deSouza> !br
[23:36] <jimi> hello
[23:36] <xixi_> hi
[23:36] <expunge> ohai
[23:37] <thoonai> do I can use ldap and kerberos without setting up a local dns-server?
[23:38] <jimi> update
[23:40] <cortexman> anyone know a better screen recorder than vokoscreen? the audio is always out of sync with the video
[23:41] <fission6> i just created a new digital ocean droplet ubuntu 14.1 i am going to cron a python script, how do i create a secure user to run the script as?
[23:43] <samthewildone> I'm trying to have my desktop talk with ubuntu, how do I do it ?
[23:43] <tim__> samthewildone, What do you mean?
[23:44] <samthewildone> I wanna JACK myself into my windows computer to print.
[23:44] <erikk> you mean remote control¿
[23:44] <samthewildone> umm to print ? I guess
[23:44] <erikk> or just share resources, such as print?
[23:44] <erikk> ok
[23:45] <tim__> Samba
[23:45] <erikk> if you are in ubuntu, there is an option
[23:45] <erikk> but you have tu share the printer in windows
[23:45] <xixi_> hi
[23:46] <erikk> to*
[23:46] <erikk> scumbag spanish jaja
[23:46] <expunge> mmm
[23:46] <tim__> samthewildone, google "printer samba untu windows" or something like that
[23:46] <samthewildone> listen... Tim Cook, I tried that and got nowhere
[23:47] <erikk> if you don't share the printer with windows, you are not going to see it.
[23:47] <tim__> samthewildone, it's tricky and a pain in the ass
[23:47] <samthewildone> found this > http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/05/ubuntu1404-file-sharing-samba/
[23:47] <samthewildone> got nowhere
[23:47] <jimi> ubuntu upgrade
[23:48] <fission6> how do i create a new user iwth a homedirectory
[23:50] <tim__> fission6, press the super key (windows key) type in "settings" press enter. goto user accounts
[23:50] <tim__> fission6, you will need the root password to unlock (there is a little padlock you need to click} and then you can create a new user
[23:54] <thoonai> got some connection problems it seemed
[23:54] <thoonai> so again my stupid question: do I need dns for kerberos?
[23:55] <expunge> 'dns'?
[23:55] <thoonai> expunge: Domain Name Server
[23:56] <lokke> hello world - i cant get my Radeon HD4890 ready to word on ubuntu 14.04 64bit - does anyone know how i can install the lagacy drivers for this card?
[23:57] <lokke> work*
[23:57] <expunge> thoonai: you need "dns" for a lot of things
[23:57] <thoonai> expunge: thats not the answer I hoped for, thats the answer I feared most
[23:57]  * thoonai thinks about seting up NIS
[23:57] <thoonai> ....
[23:58] <lokke> thoonai: where is the problem with your DNS?
[23:59] <thoonai> lokke: I want to set up ldap+kerberos for ntwork user management
[23:59] <expunge> #kerberos
[23:59] <thoonai> that everyone can log in on any workstation
[23:59] <thoonai> expunge: thanks
[23:59] <dmitry-rasputin> anyone having an issue running steam?  I get this error /home/dmitry/.local/share/Steam/steam.sh: line 730:  2413 Segmentation fault