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| pitti | Good morning | 04:54 |
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| willcooke | tkamppeter, I've just emailed the printer guys from last week | 07:10 |
| didrocks | morning willcooke | 07:11 |
| willcooke | hey didrocks | 07:12 |
| * willcooke grumble grumble | 07:13 | |
| willcooke | early start again | 07:13 |
| willcooke | I need more sleep :) | 07:13 |
| * didrocks does the first real pull requests review on a non small feature addition by a contributor on udtc! | 07:24 | |
| willcooke | \o/ | 07:25 |
| larsu | morning guys! | 07:34 |
| willcooke | hey larsu | 07:35 |
| didrocks | hey larsu | 07:44 |
| Guest45203 | Guest45203 has arrived! | 08:03 |
| === Guest45203 is now known as Laney | ||
| Laney | phew | 08:05 |
| larsu | hi Laney :) | 08:06 |
| willcooke | hi Laney | 08:07 |
| didrocks | morning Laney | 08:07 |
| Laney | morning chaps | 08:07 |
| Laney | how goes? | 08:07 |
| willcooke | is good | 08:08 |
| larsu | good good | 08:08 |
| GunnarHj | Sweetshark: Hi Björn, any chance that you can upload bug #1308771? You assigned yourself to it 3 months ago, so the sponsors seem to be disinclined to interfere. | 08:39 |
| ubot5 | bug 1308771 in libreoffice-dictionaries (Ubuntu) "Update Swedish spellcheck and hyphenation dictionaries" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308771 | 08:39 |
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| willcooke | didrocks, what do you think > >> We have a meeting on Friday with the Community team re: developer desktop, should we cancel the meeting today with Jorge? | 08:53 |
| didrocks | willcooke: yeah, no need to ETOOMANYMEETINGS, and we have our catchup tomorrow anyway | 08:53 |
| willcooke | :D | 08:53 |
| willcooke | FJKong, happyaron, can you let me have an email with your updates for the meeting in before your EOD (unless you are coming to the meeting) | 09:43 |
| Sweetshark | GunnarHj: Sorry, getting LibreOffice itself to 4.3 in utopic had priority. Will look into it today, note however I dont have any upload rights whatsoever anyway. | 09:57 |
| mitya57 | sil2100: ping about lp:~mitya57/appmenu-qt5/lp1362104 | 10:03 |
| sil2100 | mitya57: hey! On my radar, just being overwhelmed by landing team stuff - will look into it today I hope | 10:09 |
| sil2100 | mitya57: sorry about that | 10:09 |
| Sweetshark | willcooke: you recently told me you updated my name in hr tools. Possibly as a sideeffect this broke my login on some hr-tools. The syncs there seem to be very fragile and cant seem to be able to decide if my first name only has a 'o' or an 'oe'. | 10:12 |
| Laney | "Some German Guy" | 10:12 |
| * ogra_ doesnt see an oe in Sweetshark | 10:13 | |
| Sweetshark | willcooke: and no Im not seeing ghosts, this is with creds from a pw-manager -- and it used to work yesterday morning, but not yesterday evening. still doesnt work with the stored combo today, but I accidentally found it working with the other account name. | 10:14 |
| Sweetshark | ogra_: I really dont want to try to convince hr about that account name. ;) | 10:15 |
| ogra_ | hehe | 10:15 |
| willcooke | hrm | 10:19 |
| GunnarHj | Sweetshark: Well, upload help is what I'm asking for. pitti uploaded to Utopic in June, and jdstrand reviewed it 1+ month ago and was about to upload to Trusty, but raised a question which I addressed. | 10:21 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: sounds like you need a patch pilot :-) | 10:21 |
| Sweetshark | willcooke: fwiw, hr says this is likely not coming from your change. Which may very well be, I have seen that before, but not yet in such a clean cut "works in the morning, failed later" with the same stored pw. | 10:22 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Right. Are you still in duty? | 10:23 |
| Laney | nope | 10:23 |
| GunnarHj | :( | 10:23 |
| Laney | but give me the link again and I'll look in a bit | 10:23 |
| Laney | Good Guy Laney™ | 10:23 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: bug #1308771 | 10:24 |
| ubot5 | bug 1308771 in libreoffice-dictionaries (Ubuntu) "Update Swedish spellcheck and hyphenation dictionaries" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308771 | 10:24 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: TIA | 10:24 |
| Laney | --build-dep-resolver=aptitude ♥ | 10:30 |
| marga | Trevinho, lots of confirmations that the packages fix the issues, no much news regarding other issues I mentioned. When do you expect these to get SRUed? | 10:37 |
| tkamppeter | willcooke, great, thanks. | 10:59 |
| mitya57 | sil2100: no problem, we still have some time before the release | 11:14 |
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| Trevinho | marga: we've a SRU waiting for some tests, so I think we need to plan that for the next one... | 12:11 |
| Trevinho | marga: so, some weeks probably | 12:11 |
| Trevinho | marga: but I can see if we can speed up things | 12:11 |
| marga | Trevinho, "some" = ? | 12:14 |
| marga | Trevinho, three? six? ten? | 12:14 |
| Trevinho | well, considering that there are a lot of fixes to land, I guess it might be something like 5 | 12:14 |
| marga | Trevinho, does your first comment mean that there will be a release between now and then that is higher than the current and doesn't include the fix? | 12:15 |
| Trevinho | marga: however I'm seeing if we can move that fix and others to the upcoming SRU instead | 12:15 |
| Trevinho | marga: yes, the SRU is mostly "ready", but waiting in a silo for being released... | 12:15 |
| marga | Trevinho, I see. | 12:15 |
| marga | ETA for that? | 12:16 |
| didrocks | darkxst: commented on libmediaart MIR | 12:16 |
| didrocks | darkxst: globally, +1 for me, but it would be nice to enable unit tests (they are disabled in debian/rules and no information in debian/changelog about why they are disabled) | 12:17 |
| Trevinho | marga: I can't say much about that, just guess... bregma knows more | 12:17 |
| marga | Trevinho, do you have an isolated patch for the missing-prompt bug? | 12:18 |
| marga | If the SRU comes without the fix, I could re-apply and re-build with the patch. | 12:18 |
| Trevinho | marga: yep, the fix itself is in https://code.launchpad.net/~andyrock/unity/fix-1308540 | 12:19 |
| Trevinho | marga: this branch https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/single-lock-input instead has both the SRU and the fix | 12:19 |
| marga | ok. | 12:20 |
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| willcooke | hrm. | 13:35 |
| willcooke | I have a potentially v. important meeting @ the same time as our weekly | 13:35 |
| willcooke | didrocks, would you mind being chair today? | 13:35 |
| larsu | Saviq: hey, why bug #1365408 ? | 13:55 |
| ubot5 | bug 1365408 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "Should ship a PNG icon instead of using the theme" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1365408 | 13:55 |
| larsu | it doesn't give a rationale | 13:55 |
| * desrt notes that the icon theme is cached | 13:56 | |
| larsu | it does give problems with looking up symbolic icons | 13:56 |
| desrt | which is a good way to avoid calling stat() a whole lot | 13:56 |
| desrt | ...which is nice, since things that try to open one app icon for display have a tendency to follow that by opening _all_ app icons for display | 13:56 |
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| renatu | larsu, hi | 13:57 |
| larsu | renatu: nice nick | 13:57 |
| renatu | :D | 13:57 |
| desrt | larsu: he's in the imperative today | 13:57 |
| larsu | desrt: lol | 13:57 |
| larsu | renatu: waiting for Saviq to join | 13:57 |
| renatu | somebody took my "renato" | 13:57 |
| ogra_ | larsu, isnt he on vacation ? | 13:58 |
| larsu | ogra_: is he? He's online... | 13:58 |
| ogra_ | there was a mail ... | 13:58 |
| larsu | indeed. thanks ogra_ | 13:59 |
| larsu | desrt, renatu: not sure who we should talk to now. He didn't specify an "icons" contact :P | 13:59 |
| renatu | :D | 14:00 |
| desrt | the desktop file spec (at least in so far as glib implements it) already allows specifying an absolute path for icons, so there's no problem there | 14:00 |
| desrt | the only question is if this is actually a good idea or not, and i think the answer is 'no' | 14:00 |
| desrt | at least not if you plan for this to be the normal case in any way | 14:01 |
| larsu | desrt: even if you use that, there's no fallback | 14:01 |
| larsu | which we would need for the -symbolic case | 14:01 |
| larsu | or we could introduce X-SymbolicIcon | 14:01 |
| larsu | which is a bit ugly and would require i-messages to open the desktop file again (it uses appinfo right now) | 14:01 |
| desrt | i think rather you should have some mechanism for these sort of things to get automatically bailed out of apps (click packages or otherwise) to a common cache directory where an index can be built | 14:02 |
| desrt | desktop files, icons, whatever else | 14:02 |
| desrt | larsu: appinfo has an arbitrary-key query api now | 14:02 |
| desrt | g_desktop_app_info_get_string() | 14:02 |
| larsu | desrt: cool thanks | 14:02 |
| larsu | renatu: ^^ | 14:02 |
| larsu | desrt: this cache directory would be the theme? | 14:03 |
| desrt | one would certainly imagine wanting to structure it in precisely this way | 14:03 |
| renatu | larsu, remember that click package can not write outside his own dir | 14:03 |
| desrt | in order to reuse all of the existing logic | 14:03 |
| larsu | renatu: the click package wouldn't write, rather the installer would extract it | 14:04 |
| larsu | we're already doing that for desktop files, no? | 14:04 |
| desrt | gsettings schemas also come to mind | 14:04 |
| larsu | and gsettings schemas | 14:04 |
| larsu | ha, lag makes me look slow ;) | 14:04 |
| desrt | larsu: beer, etc. | 14:04 |
| larsu | yep | 14:04 |
| larsu | I hope the etc. involves more beer | 14:05 |
| desrt | the 'etc.' involves me not actually caring, but not wanting to be called on it myself :) | 14:05 |
| renatu | larsu, I do not know, how the installers works | 14:05 |
| larsu | desrt: I have the feeling this will be one of those fights not worth fighting...^^ | 14:06 |
| desrt | fine by me... just wanted to give my opinion: absolute icon paths may be bad for performance, and have trouble with dealing with symbolic icons | 14:06 |
| larsu | right, this is what they're stumbling across right now | 14:06 |
| desrt | it also doesn't allow overriding icons, which may be desireable in some cases | 14:07 |
| larsu | unlikely for apps | 14:07 |
| larsu | but yeah, maybe for the built-in ones?! | 14:07 |
| renatu | larsu, desrt, we should not have any .deb file in the future they want to move all apps to click packages | 14:08 |
| renatu | even the dialer, messaging and contacts | 14:08 |
| desrt | renatu: sounds like a bad idea to me.... | 14:08 |
| renatu | yeah I know | 14:09 |
| desrt | you want as much of the core OS as possible to be in the readonly system image | 14:09 |
| renatu | but this is the plan | 14:09 |
| desrt | not installed in the same way as add-on apps | 14:09 |
| larsu | and update the whole thing when an app changes? | 14:09 |
| desrt | larsu: yes | 14:09 |
| larsu | yeah I can see that | 14:09 |
| desrt | the only really sane thing to do is some sort of android-type hybrid scheme where the app lives in the core image but can get updates installed | 14:10 |
| desrt | which you hope won't happen too often | 14:10 |
| desrt | ie: maybe my android tablet now has 4 or 5 google apps with updates installed -- that doesn't include the dialer | 14:10 |
| larsu | right | 14:11 |
| larsu | renatu: I guess this is very urgent? | 14:12 |
| larsu | I can make indicator-messages read X-Ubuntu-SymbolicIcon, which would help for now | 14:12 |
| renatu | larsu, this will be nice | 14:12 |
| larsu | I think appending -symbolic is the wrong thing to do, because it doesn't have a fallback | 14:12 |
| larsu | adding an additional key which only indicator-messages knows about is a bit gross though | 14:13 |
| renatu | larsu, but we will keep the current behavior for themed icons? | 14:13 |
| larsu | I'll make a note on the bug | 14:13 |
| larsu | renatu: yes. This is only for file icons | 14:13 |
| renatu | ok nice | 14:13 |
| larsu | man, now you made me hate this again | 14:13 |
| renatu | kkk | 14:14 |
| renatu | larsu, btw I think this key should have priorities over everything | 14:14 |
| larsu | desrt: thanks for your input | 14:14 |
| larsu | renatu: it will | 14:14 |
| renatu | for example if you are using a themed icon but you specified a X-Ubuntu-SymbolicIcon it should use it | 14:15 |
| renatu | ok nice | 14:15 |
| renatu | thanks | 14:15 |
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| didrocks | willcooke: oh, sure! | 14:25 |
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| willcooke | thx didrocks - I'll forward you the notes from the others | 14:29 |
| didrocks | yw | 14:33 |
| mitya57 | charles: hi, you approved my indicator-session MP, do you know why the CI/merge wasn't triggered? | 14:40 |
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| GunnarHj | Laney: Where did that Good Guy go? ;) | 15:15 |
| larsu | good guy? Seb? | 15:15 |
| GunnarHj | larsu: Nah, it was Laney who claimed to be the one. :) | 15:16 |
| larsu | ah, I thought you were asking him for the good guy (excluding him) | 15:16 |
| Laney | right here, babes | 15:16 |
| Laney | I said "a bit", be patient a little longer please | 15:17 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Ok. | 15:18 |
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| didrocks | Ok, seems it's this time of the week already! Meeting time! | 15:30 |
| willcooke | thx didrocks | 15:30 |
| didrocks | attente_, desrt, FJKong, Laney, larsu, quengho, Sweetshark, tkamppeter: meeting! I hope I didn't forget anybody. | 15:30 |
| willcooke | bbiab | 15:30 |
| willcooke | well, I'll be here, but PTP | 15:30 |
| willcooke | OTP | 15:30 |
| didrocks | no worry willcooke ;) | 15:30 |
| FJKong | ha | 15:30 |
| didrocks | everybody's all right? Will has a typical manager excuse to not chair this meeting (like another conflicting meeting and he likes the others more than us ;)) and seb128 is slac^W^W^W^Won vacations. | 15:31 |
| * desrt thinks didrocks doesn't know what ^W does | 15:32 | |
| * larsu thinks didrocks meant ^H | 15:32 | |
| Laney | (H) | 15:33 |
| desrt | didrocks: you're in charge, then? | 15:33 |
| willcooke | trololololol | 15:33 |
| didrocks | desrt: yep :) | 15:33 |
| desrt | didrocks: you're doing a bad job. | 15:33 |
| desrt | didrocks: get moving! | 15:33 |
| didrocks | ahah, let's start then, attente_? | 15:33 |
| larsu | I should point out the obvious bias towards French people who are running this meeting | 15:33 |
| desrt | larsu: ya... will isn't fooling anyone with that british-sounding name of his... | 15:33 |
| desrt | that extra 'e' on the end is instantly suspect.... like the concorde | 15:34 |
| attente_ | hey | 15:34 |
| larsu | desrt: 2/3 is already a bias.... | 15:34 |
| attente_ | failed to fix sync issues between fcitx and u-s-d | 15:34 |
| attente_ | so instead switched i-keyboard and u-s-d to use fcitx' current IME instead, and disabling per-window behaviour in i-keyboard, it's in the transition PPA | 15:34 |
| attente_ | modifying the u-c-c region panel UI to use fcitx' per-window behaviour instead | 15:34 |
| attente_ | (eof) | 15:34 |
| Laney | whip these rebels into line | 15:34 |
| larsu | *** willcooke is now known as willconcorde | 15:34 |
| didrocks | thanks attente_ | 15:34 |
| didrocks | desrt: instead of trolling, anything to share with us? ;) | 15:34 |
| desrt | didrocks: ya... i ended up fixing that inotify poll-every-4-seconds issue with desktop files | 15:35 |
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| desrt | i also did a systemd-shim release, but found out that although the problem with cgroups is solved logind is not properly GCing the session | 15:35 |
| didrocks | excellent! ready for utopic? | 15:35 |
| desrt | ya.. it's in the glib release that went out yesterday, in fact | 15:35 |
| didrocks | great :) | 15:35 |
| desrt | am still working on the systemd-shim issues unfortunately... i figured out the root cause, but it's one of those things that every step i take to make us more correctly implement the systemd interface causes some other part of logind to increase its expectations | 15:36 |
| desrt | that's all, more or less | 15:36 |
| desrt | larsu, Laney: would appreciate some confirmation on the desktop polling fix | 15:37 |
| desrt | once it lands | 15:37 |
| Laney | i didn't follow the issue | 15:37 |
| larsu | sure | 15:37 |
| Laney | but okay, given a pointer | 15:37 |
| desrt | Laney: basically, if you have an app that accesses a desktop file, it will thereafter poll every 4 seconds | 15:37 |
| desrt | due to the fact that we expect /usr/local/share/applications to exist, and it doesn't | 15:38 |
| desrt | so it checks every 4 seconds to see if it was created (thanks inotify) | 15:38 |
| desrt | so now we have a workaround that monitors parent directories instead | 15:38 |
| larsu | desrt: I can't reproduce this on my system btw | 15:38 |
| desrt | larsu: got /usr/local/share/applications? | 15:38 |
| larsu | desrt: ya... | 15:38 |
| desrt | is your XDG_DATA_DIRS set to something else? | 15:38 |
| didrocks | mystery solved then :) | 15:39 |
| desrt | oh wait. ya. | 15:39 |
| desrt | it won't happen if you have this, clearly :p | 15:39 |
| larsu | desrt: I read this wrong of course. I have dirs that are not in XDG_DATA_DIRS | 15:39 |
| larsu | whatevs, can deal with later | 15:39 |
| desrt | larsu: let's chat in detail after :) | 15:39 |
| didrocks | ok, let's get larsu/Laney reproduce it with some unexisting folders and confirming the fix :) | 15:39 |
| desrt | (done) | 15:39 |
| didrocks | let's move on | 15:39 |
| didrocks | thanks desrt, great work :) | 15:40 |
| didrocks | FJKong: your turn! | 15:40 |
| FJKong | do some research on Nautilus about Searching and find gnome-search-tool is good tool for advance searching | 15:40 |
| FJKong | reading source code of Nautilus | 15:40 |
| FJKong | learn about type-ahead find and recursive search | 15:40 |
| FJKong | analyze core dump of fcitx 100% problem | 15:40 |
| FJKong | that'all I think | 15:40 |
| desrt | FJKong: what is your goal here? | 15:40 |
| didrocks | FJKong: do you think you start to get a grip on the nautilus code? | 15:40 |
| FJKong | I need to look the search of nautilus | 15:41 |
| FJKong | because NUDT want to add some feature on it | 15:42 |
| FJKong | if anyone have more experience, give me some help | 15:42 |
| didrocks | desrt: basically, we try to check if we can bind nautilus for the Kylin version needs instead of them switching to another file manager and diverging from bare ubuntu | 15:42 |
| didrocks | (as we stick with nautilus in ubuntu itself for the context) | 15:43 |
| FJKong | they want to use nemo | 15:43 |
| desrt | more people upset with search functionality in nautilus? i can scarcely believe it... | 15:43 |
| desrt | FJKong: good luck :) | 15:43 |
| didrocks | FJKong: if you need any help, you can ask on the channel generally | 15:43 |
| desrt | FJKong: and let me know if you need any help | 15:43 |
| didrocks | we are quite some people having touched the nautilus code | 15:43 |
| desrt | <-- | 15:43 |
| FJKong | that's very nice | 15:44 |
| * didrocks as well (even if it's only ubuntu patches) ;) | 15:44 | |
| didrocks | so yeah, do not hesitate! | 15:44 |
| desrt | who wrote our own search patch? | 15:44 |
| desrt | the one about restoring typeahead? | 15:44 |
| desrt | seems to be quite relevent... | 15:44 |
| didrocks | desrt: I didn't touch the search, but other parts | 15:44 |
| didrocks | desrt: and Kylin has other needs that only search | 15:44 |
| FJKong | desrt: actually they want to add filter by date | 15:45 |
| didrocks | we can talk about it offline anyway | 15:45 |
| desrt | FJKong: ugh. | 15:45 |
| FJKong | now nautilus only support search by name | 15:45 |
| FJKong | I am not sure why upstream doesn't support this | 15:45 |
| didrocks | FJKong: let's talk about it after the meeting about the needs, seems like desrt is interested in the topic and that can takes time :) | 15:45 |
| didrocks | thanks FJKong | 15:45 |
| FJKong | k | 15:46 |
| FJKong | thaks | 15:46 |
| didrocks | Laney: anything to share even if you are back from holidays? | 15:46 |
| Laney | oh yeah some things | 15:46 |
| Laney | • v short week | 15:46 |
| Laney | • Upload gstreamer-bad merge, try to figure out how to upload to rtm | 15:46 |
| Laney | • Poke at dmb packageset script, make some updates for xubuntu | 15:46 |
| Laney | • Test and sync glib | 15:46 |
| Laney | • Review robert_ancell's PPA & hint to file FFe | 15:46 |
| Laney | • Package new wallpapers and upload (in NEW, hint hint) | 15:46 |
| Laney | • Review mvo's change to dh_girepository & upload it, run test rebuild in experimental, https://people.debian.org/~laney/gi-ma/ | 15:46 |
| Laney | • Review some FFes | 15:46 |
| Laney | • Patch pilot | 15:46 |
| Laney | ☯ | 15:46 |
| didrocks | Laney: oh, planning to break gstreamer again on the phone? (j/k) ;) | 15:47 |
| Laney | there was never a first time :-) | 15:47 |
| * didrocks notes the NEW hint hint | 15:47 | |
| * didrocks will exchange against a FFe later on :p | 15:47 | |
| didrocks | thanks Laney and welcome back! | 15:48 |
| Laney | ty | 15:48 |
| didrocks | qengho: around? | 15:48 |
| qengho | Hey! | 15:48 |
| qengho | * im-progress: Releasing 37.0.2062.120. Tried switching to uptream-prefered compiler clang, but #security talked me into reverting to gcc. | 15:48 |
| qengho | * new flash pepper-plugin version. In stage ppa. | 15:49 |
| qengho | * todo: cr/mir testing. didn't do any last week. | 15:49 |
| qengho | EOF | 15:49 |
| qengho | "in-" | 15:49 |
| didrocks | qengho: is it a lot more work to not compile with clang? | 15:49 |
| JackYu | Laney, so busy:) | 15:49 |
| qengho | didrocks: not more work, just ripping out some gcc-4.9 dodges, but it requires a lot of testing. | 15:50 |
| qengho | didrocks: oh, I misunderstood your question. No additional work to keep gcc for now. | 15:50 |
| didrocks | qengho: ok. If that begins to be an issue, I think we should have some vUDS session around it. I can see more and more project switching to clang | 15:51 |
| didrocks | thanks qengho | 15:51 |
| didrocks | next on the list is Sweetshark! | 15:51 |
| qengho | So sad that I didn't even have to say what package. :( | 15:52 |
| larsu | hah :D | 15:52 |
| didrocks | hum, seems no Sweetshark… | 15:53 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: reminder about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice-dictionaries/+bug/1308771 btw, for SRU :) | 15:53 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1308771 in libreoffice-dictionaries (Ubuntu) "Update Swedish spellcheck and hyphenation dictionaries" [Medium,In progress] | 15:53 |
| didrocks | tkamppeter: around or do you want me to paste your report in case you were not there? | 15:54 |
| didrocks | let's paste tkamppeter's summary | 15:55 |
| didrocks | - system-config-printer: Investigations on why the auto-download of | 15:55 |
| didrocks | drivers stopped working. | 15:55 |
| didrocks | - system-config-printer: Uploaded new GIT snapshot with many Python3 | 15:55 |
| didrocks | transition fixes. | 15:55 |
| didrocks | - OpenPrinting web site: Phone meeting with Jeff Licquia on updating the | 15:55 |
| didrocks | server and fixing some problems. | 15:55 |
| didrocks | - Bugs. | 15:55 |
| didrocks | I have some from TheMuso as well: | 15:55 |
| didrocks | * More research on Section 508, and found a couple of sites that give deacent summaries of what it is all about. http://www.accessibletech.com/dw/508explained.html - Focuses on web content and http://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/about-the-section-508-standards/guide-to-the-section-508-standards | 15:55 |
| didrocks | * Research CVAA, and don't think it is relevant to us. Summary at http://www.coataccess.org/node/9776 and more info at https://www.ssbbartgroup.com/blog/2013/05/14/cvaa-series-cvaa-overview/ | 15:55 |
| didrocks | * Finished iteration 1 of the a11y community wiki docs rewrite, only covered unity so far, still need to rewrite GNOME docs, so have removed them for now. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility | 15:55 |
| tkamppeter | I am here, but you were faster. | 15:55 |
| didrocks | :) | 15:56 |
| didrocks | Some from Robert now: | 15:56 |
| didrocks | Worked on: | 15:56 |
| didrocks | - Released lightdm 1.11.9 | 15:56 |
| didrocks | - Backported multi-seat, Mir container sessions to LightDM 1.10 | 15:56 |
| didrocks | - Released simple-scan 3.13.92 | 15:56 |
| didrocks | - Fixed FTBFS for empathy | 15:56 |
| didrocks | - Bug triage, fixing | 15:56 |
| didrocks | - Booked flights to the sprint | 15:56 |
| didrocks | Currently working on: | 15:56 |
| didrocks | - Preparing LightDM 1.10.2 release and SRU | 15:56 |
| didrocks | - FFE for u-s-d/u-c-c changes | 15:56 |
| didrocks | - Bug fixing for utopic release | 15:56 |
| didrocks | Not blocked on anything. | 15:56 |
| * larsu feels left out | 15:57 | |
| didrocks | oh larsu! please share :) | 15:57 |
| didrocks | larsu: no worry, still 2 to go then ;) | 15:57 |
| larsu | - themes: new evince uses a headerbar for its toolbar (thanks to seb). Theme that correctly and review sebs patches | 15:57 |
| larsu | - reviewed desrts gdesktopappinfo-polls-too-much patch | 15:57 |
| larsu | - discuss symbolic icons for click packages and make a preliminary patch for indicator-messages | 15:57 |
| larsu | - my uitk icon theme branch finally landed, so I could update and merge unity8 and ubuntu-system-settings patches that use the Icon instead of StatusIcon component | 15:57 |
| larsu | - that icon theme patch from last week was missing tests, started working on those | 15:57 |
| larsu | didrocks: right, I thought you were going by the initial ping order | 15:57 |
| larsu | eof | 15:57 |
| didrocks | larsu: I was, but Laney posted work for 2 persons, so I skipped over you (reasonable excuse? :p) | 15:58 |
| larsu | haha, definitely | 15:58 |
| larsu | Laney: stop making us look bad! | 15:58 |
| Laney | dude | 15:58 |
| Laney | just use bullet points in tomboy | 15:58 |
| Laney | it makes anyone look good | 15:59 |
| * larsu install tomboy | 15:59 | |
| desrt | larsu: enjoy your VM | 15:59 |
| didrocks | nice work on the themes larsu :) | 15:59 |
| didrocks | but -1 for installing tomboy :p | 15:59 |
| Laney | • breathed in | 15:59 |
| Laney | • breathed out | 15:59 |
| Laney | • slept a few times | 15:59 |
| Laney | • went to the pub | 15:59 |
| desrt | Laney: productive week! | 15:59 |
| Laney | SEE! | 15:59 |
| didrocks | heh | 15:59 |
| desrt | the points are very professional! | 15:59 |
| * larsu is blown away | 16:00 | |
| didrocks | ok, on the list to paste, I have happyaron's one: | 16:00 |
| desrt | Laney: i'm concerned that you appear not to have showered or brushed your teeth... | 16:00 |
| didrocks | 1. Reviewed and uploaded: | 16:00 |
| didrocks | 1) indicator-china-weather | 16:00 |
| didrocks | 2) UKSC | 16:00 |
| didrocks | 3) unity-china-music-scope | 16:00 |
| didrocks | 4) fcitx-qimapnel | 16:00 |
| didrocks | 2. in progress: | 16:00 |
| Laney | didn't want to make you all look bad by overachieving | 16:00 |
| didrocks | 1) fcitx-qimpanel: need to send removal request of fcitx-qimpanel-configtool | 16:00 |
| didrocks | 2) Fcitx MIR: still waiting for new upstream release of fcitx, which | 16:00 |
| didrocks | has included most of necessary changes for unity integration | 16:00 |
| didrocks | 3) got upload permission of ubuntukylin-meta package, upload pending | 16:00 |
| didrocks | 4) ubuntukylin-default-settings changes | 16:00 |
| didrocks | 3. TBD: | 16:00 |
| didrocks | 1) ubuntukylin-wallpapers: wait NUDT for the contest to finish | 16:00 |
| didrocks | 2) youker-assistant: wait NUDT for new release | 16:00 |
| didrocks | 3) wait for the mentioned release of chinese-calendar from NUDT | 16:00 |
| didrocks | (this guy should use bullet points!) | 16:00 |
| didrocks | k, finally mine (with last minute bullet points): | 16:01 |
| didrocks | • Blog post on how to contribute to ubuntu developer tools center. Got quite a lot of great feedback, a bunch of bug reports/suggestions on github. Spending some time to handle and triage those. | 16:01 |
| didrocks | • We got already one external contribution (readme fix!) and a bigger one (eclipse support) is coming from another awesome contributor! Spent some time tutoring/reviewing/giving examples. | 16:01 |
| didrocks | • Implemented framework removal support (in trunk for now) | 16:01 |
| didrocks | • Imlemented eclipse android (ADT) support to serve as an example (in a branch for now) | 16:02 |
| didrocks | • Switch to certified docker images now that their server-side bug is fixed | 16:02 |
| didrocks | • Some refactoring, cleanup and numerous additional tests (running daily) | 16:02 |
| didrocks | • Minor bug fixes on reinstalling | 16:02 |
| didrocks | • libmediaart MIR review. | 16:02 |
| didrocks | • working with IS to be able to run medium tests on the CI DC. | 16:02 |
| didrocks | • Next: file a FFe (one eclipse support and ADT are merged in) for next release in utopic and give that to kind Laney ;) | 16:02 |
| didrocks | EOF | 16:02 |
| larsu | didrocks: your bullet points are, like, so amazing | 16:02 |
| desrt | larsu: i disagree | 16:02 |
| desrt | bullet points and periods at the ends of sentences don't mix. noob error. | 16:02 |
| didrocks | larsu: yeah, I so copied them from… Laney ;) | 16:02 |
| didrocks | anything else to share? | 16:02 |
| didrocks | reminder: book your flights from next sprint if you didn't already | 16:03 |
| larsu | desrt: I ws talking about the bullet points only, not general typography. You probably also wouldn't say "no, because the shoes don't match" after I compliment someone's hair | 16:03 |
| Laney | this meeting has had a higher than average proportion devoted to trolling | 16:04 |
| Laney | i like it | 16:04 |
| larsu | no seb128... | 16:04 |
| didrocks | ok, it seems nothing more than trolls in the air, time to wrap up, thanks everyone! | 16:04 |
| desrt | Laney: welcome back | 16:04 |
| didrocks | willcooke: end of meeting (if you copy and paste to the NZ/Australia guys) | 16:04 |
| willcooke | thx didrocks, all | 16:05 |
| Laney | thanks! | 16:06 |
| desrt | would it be a huge disaster for us if kylin just used nemo? | 16:06 |
| desrt | would it be more maintainership work or something? | 16:06 |
| FJKong | desrt: ok we turn to file manager topic | 16:07 |
| desrt | because as it is i think a lot of these requirements (requests?) are going to generate huge deltas vs. upstream and result in more work anyway | 16:07 |
| Laney | not sure if it's better given that they want to patch the shit out of either of them | 16:07 |
| desrt | although some of them could be helpful -- the relabel filesystems, for example | 16:07 |
| FJKong | we won't turn to nemo in short time, is that true? | 16:08 |
| desrt | ubuntu desktop generally? no. | 16:09 |
| desrt | won't happen any time soon | 16:09 |
| desrt | maybe never... | 16:09 |
| desrt | probably we'd stick with nautilus until we have something redone for unity8 in qml, for example... | 16:09 |
| didrocks | Laney: NEWed (in main of course). Remember about it when I'll file this FFe, just saying :p | 16:10 |
| Laney | thanks ;-) | 16:10 |
| didrocks | yw | 16:10 |
| didrocks | desrt: sounds like the plausible plan, yeah | 16:10 |
| FJKong | NUDT will use nautilus in community verion and nemo for pre-install | 16:10 |
| didrocks | desrt: maybe we should still patch at least the features that makes sense to us (and propose them upstream for sure)? | 16:11 |
| desrt | didrocks: like bringing back the tree directory view? good luck with that proposal... | 16:11 |
| FJKong | so maybe they want me add some feature on nautilus and they will do on namo and maintain by themself | 16:11 |
| didrocks | desrt: not that one, but the relabel filesystem | 16:12 |
| didrocks | desrt: I'm not sure we want the tree directory in ubuntu for instance | 16:12 |
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| desrt | ya... relabel is totally cool, of course, if someone wants to do the work | 16:12 |
| FJKong | didrocks: relabel filesystem means you can rename label of filesystem? | 16:12 |
| desrt | i'll even volunteer to review the patch and help get it upstream | 16:12 |
| desrt | FJKong: yes. it's possible to do this using a dbus API via udisks, with polkit integration | 16:13 |
| desrt | i think upstream would take such a patch | 16:13 |
| desrt | org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Filesystem.SetLabel on the block_device object, fwiw | 16:14 |
| FJKong | desrt: could you tell me some more detail on searching in nautilus? | 16:15 |
| desrt | FJKong: i don't know much on this area other than to have an opinion that search-by-date is probably not a completely awesome feature | 16:16 |
| desrt | particularly "by last accessed time" is completely unreliable | 16:16 |
| desrt | which is why this feature was removed in the first place | 16:16 |
| FJKong | desrt: to be honest, I never use search by date | 16:18 |
| FJKong | I think in nautilus searching by name is enough for me | 16:18 |
| FJKong | If I need to find, maybe I will use find in terminal. | 16:18 |
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| didrocks | willcooke: FYI, seems google is going the docker path (http://www.dartosphere.org/2014/09/16/docker-images-for-dart-now-available.html) | 16:39 |
| didrocks | willcooke: they start to have quite a lot of images: https://registry.hub.docker.com/repos/google/ | 16:39 |
| didrocks | (but they didn't fix the "hit and refresh" issue) | 16:39 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: this is fixed for utopic, yes? | 16:40 |
| willcooke | didrocks, cool | 16:45 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Not quite. The MP is an addition to what's already in utopic. | 16:47 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: I did it after jdstrands review. | 16:50 |
| willcooke | larsu, Laney desrt FJKong - please could you populate your travel details in the spreadsheet as soon as you have flights confirmed etc | 16:51 |
| willcooke | Sweetshark, ^^ | 16:51 |
| Laney | still waiting to book | 16:51 |
| willcooke | chop chop :) | 16:51 |
| larsu | willcooke: ah thanks for reminding me | 16:51 |
| Laney | not my delay! | 16:52 |
| Laney | well, not right now | 16:52 |
| Laney | I can be partially blamed | 16:52 |
| willcooke | :D | 16:52 |
| desrt | willcooke: already did, no? | 16:53 |
| willcooke | doh, sorry desrt | 16:53 |
| didrocks | fatest holidays approval ever! | 16:56 |
| * desrt tries one too | 16:57 | |
| Laney | slackers | 16:57 |
| didrocks | desrt: let's DDOS this guy! :) | 16:57 |
| * willcooke . . o O ( So manager. Such approval. wow) | 16:57 | |
| willcooke | desrt, you want tomorrow off? | 16:59 |
| desrt | yes please :) | 16:59 |
| willcooke | not trolling? | 16:59 |
| desrt | you think i'd put a vacation day on the line for a troll? | 16:59 |
| didrocks | Laney: mine were the end of years holidays :) | 16:59 |
| willcooke | 'cos if you cancel it in 10 mins..... ;) | 16:59 |
| didrocks | thanks willcooke :) paperworkstacktodo-- | 17:00 |
| desrt | willcooke: long story is that my mom is coming to town for her birthday tomorrow and we're going to proper british-style afternoon tea. i forgot to book it off before just now. | 17:00 |
| willcooke | well, I'm convinced | 17:00 |
| Laney | (please be a troll) | 17:01 |
| desrt | Laney: you're getting the shakes from seb not being around :p | 17:01 |
| desrt | willcooke: thanks :) | 17:02 |
| * willcooke -> dinner | 17:05 | |
| Laney | that'll be it - I knew there was something | 17:06 |
| didrocks | EOD here! see you tomorrow guys | 17:07 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: done, enjoy | 17:09 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Many thanks on behalf of the Swedish LoCo. :) | 17:09 |
| Laney | you're welcome | 17:12 |
| Laney | climbing time, see you! | 17:12 |
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| willcooke | EOD - tata | 17:34 |
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| desrt | so anyone taking wagers on the big announcement today? | 17:59 |
| desrt | 2 hours to go... | 18:00 |
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| cyphermox | kenvandine: I got another quick fix for bluetooth in u-s-s :) https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/ubuntu-system-settings/fix-lp1355904/+merge/234879 | 19:49 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, thx | 19:52 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1365408/+merge/234764 | 19:53 |
| kenvandine | the CI failures aren't related, otto i think | 19:54 |
| cyphermox | sure | 19:54 |
| kenvandine | thx, i can get them both in the same landing | 19:54 |
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