[01:50] <bluesabre> release-team, just want to verify with you all... we (xubuntu) have been carrying the development releases of xfce4-power-manager (1.3.x) for utopic, and the stable release (1.4.0) is now available. It consists of bug fixes.  Since the version number is a leap to stable, just want to get the stamp of approval.
[02:02] <tumbleweed> bluesabre: we care about contents, not version numbers. If the contents are only bug fixes, and there is no cause to suspect incompatibilities, you're good to go
[02:03] <bluesabre> tumbleweed: thanks, I figured as much. Didn't want to have to "apologize to the release team" ;)
[02:15] <ScottK> bluesabre: How's it work with upower 0.99?
[02:16] <bluesabre> ScottK, the depends would have to be swapped to >= 0.99, otherwise fine...
[02:17] <bluesabre> though the Xubuntu team is currently opposed to the transition to upower 0.99 this late in the utopic cycle
[02:17] <ScottK> I'm wondering since you Xubuntu folks reacted pretty strongly.
[02:17] <ScottK> I got that.
[02:17] <ScottK> I didn't know if it was based on actual testing and problems or fear alone.
[02:20] <bluesabre> Mainly the risk of possible regressions. We have a limited testing group and the updated upower is largely untested in the xfce components (patches were only added very recently)
[02:21] <bluesabre> Also, the updated gnome stack has the potential of other untested components landing as well
[02:21] <bluesabre> (untested for us anyway)
[02:22] <bluesabre> So from project lead, qa lead, and technical lead, we are all vary wary of the changes that the transition may bring
[02:22] <bluesabre> *very
[02:23] <bluesabre> ochosi_ ^
[02:24] <ScottK> Right, so what's the impact on Gnome of not updating?
[02:24] <ScottK> Maybe they'd be motivated to help testing Xubuntu to mitigate your risk?
[02:26] <bluesabre> Right, and it clearly has a significant impact on them, so this would be good for further discussion with both teams
[02:31] <bluesabre> The xubuntu team was really only made aware of this potential change recently, and indeed, the bug report only updated to [FFe] status 3 days ago
[02:31] <skellat> ScottK, bluesabre: The impact on Gnome is that they miss landing GNOME 3.12 well after Feature Freeze too
[02:33] <skellat> They would still ship 3.8 components
[02:53] <ScottK> Not 3.10?
[02:54] <skellat> ScottK: We were told they would be stuck at the same components they shipped in UG14.04
[02:54] <ScottK> OK.
[02:54] <ScottK> Do they want to update at this point?
[02:55] <skellat> We were informed that upower was the last thing they needed to land GNOME 3.12 so they could have it in 14.10
[02:55] <skellat> Pardon me, one of the last things
[06:03] <mlankhorst> morning
[10:01] <mlankhorst> infinity: hm as far as I can tell I didn't break kwin
[10:02] <mlankhorst> seems to work just fine, but I'll try the other drivers too just to be sure
[10:22] <mlankhorst> compiz 32-bits seems to work too
[14:59] <jzheng> hi SRU team (not sure who is still online)
[15:00] <jzheng> there is an SRU for ubuntukylin-theme in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= for a long time. So I wonder if anyone from SRU team can have time to help approve it? It is for Ubuntu Kylin 14.04
[16:20] <infinity> mlankhorst: That's good news, then.
[16:35] <jamespage> those three are covered under bug 1369927
[18:46] <mlankhorst> yeah