[08:39] <hackeron> I have a strange problem where memory is leaking but not showing up in top/ps/ps_mem/slabtop/etc - any ideas at all how to figure out where it is going? < http://superuser.com/questions/793192/what-is-using-up-all-my-memory-ubuntu-14-04-lts-server/795352
[08:53] <TJ-> hackeron: You're running the live555 from Trusty archive - version 2014.101.13-1 ?
[08:54] <hackeron> TJ-: no, compiled the latest source myself
[08:54] <TJ-> including the 2014-06-24 release then?
[08:55] <TJ-> Have you run valgrind on it?
[08:59] <hackeron> TJ-: No, but it's showing like 0.1% memory use in top
[12:08] <Aison> can I somehow manually remove an ufw rule?
[12:09] <Aison> ufw delete is not working on one of the rules...
[12:10] <zubairahmed> can't you edit the ufw file manually Aison
[12:10] <Aison> maybe, but what file is that?
[12:10] <zubairahmed> /lib/ufw/user.rules
[12:11] <zubairahmed> https://scottlinux.com/2012/08/25/how-to-manually-edit-ufw-rules-on-ubuntu-linux/
[12:26] <jdstrand> Aison: what rule?
[12:27] <Aison> jdstrand, I created a custom application file
[12:27] <Aison> jdstrand, with ports=1812,1813
[12:27] <Aison> adding this application was possible, but deleting not
[12:27] <jdstrand> how are you trying to delete it?
[12:27] <Aison> now I changed it to ports=1812,1813/udp
[12:27] <jdstrand> how did you add it?
[12:27] <jdstrand> ah
[12:28] <jdstrand> if you changed the ports in the application rule file, then I can imagine it would not work
[12:28] <Aison> jdstrand, I called it Radius, so I added it with ufw allow from 10.0.0.0/8 to any app radius
[12:28] <Aison> jdstrand, and I tired to delete it by number: ufw delete 15
[12:29] <jdstrand> Aison: if you change the application file back to not specify udp, I bet it would work
[12:29] <jdstrand> Aison: can you file a bug?
[12:30] <Aison> jdstrand, no, it does not work then
[12:49] <jamespage> jdstrand, around? we have a whole load of refactoring (very late) todo in Horizon with regards packaging of 'assets' such as JS and CSS
[12:50] <jamespage> and I wanted to get your opinion on approach - I want to avoid having a bezillion libjs-* package in main
[12:50] <jamespage> well at least I think I do
[12:55] <jdstrand> I'm pretty sure we do :)
[12:58] <jamespage> jdstrand, OK - so thats a good start
[12:58] <jamespage> jdstrand, soo....
[12:58] <jamespage> horizon in previous releases just bundled up any JS and CSS stuff it needed from other projects
[12:59] <jamespage> jdstrand, upstream have moved to using python-xstatic which basically provides the same asset via a pythonic interface which can be packaged up
[12:59] <jdstrand> ok, so sounds equivalent
[12:59] <jamespage> jdstrand, zigo has done a fine job packaging all of the required deps in Debian, and where possible, he's linked out to the associated libjs-XXX library that provides the same asset
[12:59] <jdstrand> ah
[13:00] <jamespage> jdstrand, most of that support is patched in and hacked into the build in packaging
[13:00] <jamespage> jdstrand, so we could revert that packaging delta a drop back to using the bundled assets each xstatic package ships in its upstream tarball
[13:00] <jamespage> jdstrand, it also avoids nodejs in the dependency chain
[13:02] <jdstrand> jamespage: I got slightly confused. Debian moved the dependencies out to separate packages, but you are thinking of moving them back to (embedded) xstatic packages?
[13:02] <jamespage> jdstrand, indeed
[13:03] <jdstrand> but the xstatic packages are still separate from horizon?
[13:03] <jamespage> jdstrand, well Debian uses the libjs-* package
[13:03] <jamespage> jdstrand, yes - so we would end up with horizon -> python-xstatic-XXX but no further dependency on libjs-XXX
[13:04] <jamespage> jdstrand, I'd also note that the debian pkgs also only use the libjs-XXX package if it already exists - I don't think thomas has done any work on new ones to support this
[13:06] <jdstrand> jamespage: how many python-xstatic-XXX packages are being added?
[13:06] <jamespage> jdstrand, lemme check
[13:07] <jamespage> jdstrand, 15
[13:27] <jamespage> coreycb, zul: ppa:openstack-ubuntu-testing/xstatic-testing
[13:32] <JediMaster> hi all, I'm having problems trying to get fail2ban to start on 12.04 LTS, I've tried setting the log level to debug (4) and nothing at all gets logged, "service fail2ban restart" just says it fails
[13:32] <JediMaster> any ideas how to get any more out of fail2ban other than setting logging to debug?
[13:32] <JediMaster> there's nothing in syslog about it either
[13:48] <rbasak> jamespage: please can you review https://launchpad.net/~racb/+archive/ubuntu/experimental/+files/bcache-tools_1.0.7-1%7Eppa3.dsc? This should be suitable for the Debian ITP I think, but an upload needs to be coordinated in that bug.
[13:50] <jamespage> rbasak, yes a bit later on
[13:50] <jamespage> rbasak, srpting on openstack bits right now
[13:50] <rbasak> OK, thanks.
[16:24] <wedgwood> Can anyone tell me whether the choice of the deadline scheduler for the Trusty AWS cloud-image was deliberate, or simply a holdover from the server default?
[16:25] <rbasak> wedgwood: that might be a question for #ubuntu-kernel. I'm not sure.
[16:25] <wedgwood> rbasak: Cool, I'll check there too
[16:25] <rbasak> In general I think we share defaults across Ubuntu. We'd have to go out of our way to arrange defaults to be different depending on what you're deployed on.
[16:51] <RoyK> wedgwood: what sort of storage?
[16:57] <jamespage> rbasak, your bcache packaging looks fine to me - did you have a FFe bug for utopic to reference?
[16:57] <jamespage> and what do I need todo with regards debian uploads? is the guy who did the packaging still up for maintaining it?
[16:57] <rbasak> jamespage: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1355890. I can upload, but I wanted your review for the Debian end.
[16:58] <jamespage> rbasak, +1 then
[16:58] <rbasak> I'd like to report on the ITP bug that you've reviewed and are prepared to upload.
[16:58] <rbasak> And ask who should/wants to be in the Uploaders field.
[16:58] <rbasak> I don't want them to feel trumped.
[16:58] <jamespage> rbasak, I'm happy with that statement but I'd want a clear response on maintainer
[16:59] <rbasak> jamespage: OK, so to confirm I think the only question left for Debian is to conclude the list of maintainers?
[16:59] <rbasak> (that can include me)
[16:59] <jamespage> rbasak, that sounds correct
[16:59] <rbasak> OK, thanks.
[17:03] <wedgwood> RoyK: Usually EBS. Sometimes ephemeral.
[17:04] <RoyK> wedgwood: meaning what?
[21:21] <SturmFlut> Will anybody here be at LinuxCon Europe 2014 in Düsseldorf?
[22:25] <hallyn> a few of us
[23:27] <coxaLT> Hello
[23:27] <coxaLT> I have a question
[23:28] <sarnold> welcome coxaLT, note irc works best if you just ask questions :)
[23:28] <coxaLT> Just installed vnc server with GNOME on ubuntu 14.04 server, configured everything. I connect with VNC Viewer, there is terminal open but i cannot type anything in it, it
[23:29] <sarnold> yay
[23:29] <coxaLT> it's just black
[23:29] <coxaLT> How to make Terminal working?
[23:33] <coxaLT> http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=19342
[23:38] <RoyK> coxaLT: hit enter
[23:41] <coxaLT> Well now i see something
[23:41] <coxaLT> like list .cache , .config , etc...
[23:41] <coxaLT> Thanks
[23:41] <coxaLT> But how to navigate in it?
[23:41] <coxaLT> How to enter type mode to execute commands like apt sudo get and other
[23:41] <coxaLT> would be helpful
[23:48] <sarnold> coxaLT: hunh, odd. try hitting ^L periodically?
[23:50] <coxaLT> maybe hit monitor and throw trash bit out of the window
[23:50] <coxaLT> maybe hit monitor and throw trash bin out of the window
[23:50] <coxaLT> that would help more, probably
[23:50] <coxaLT> :D
[23:50] <sarnold> hehe
[23:51] <sarnold> if you're using a terminal any way why not just ssh?
[23:52] <coxaLT> I can connect with bitwise and do anything, but i dont know how terminal is functioning?
[23:52] <sarnold> maybe try xterm or urxvt or something simpler than gnome-terminal
[23:53] <coxaLT> i had this thought
[23:53] <coxaLT> will try