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Chipacarsalveti: ping?00:36
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lotuspsychjehttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Meizu-Confirms-MX4-Ubuntu-Touch-Release-for-December-2014-458782.shtml04:39
lotuspsychjefinally some news :p04:39
pittikgunn__: hey! did you figure out how to run AP tests with the new phablet/adb/password stuff?04:55
pittikgunn__: I recently adjusted autopkgtest to work with that, so I think I mostly know what works and what doesn't now04:55
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lotuspsychjeyou guys did great work!05:03
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Crusadehello!  I'm curious about Ubuntu touch for the meizu  mx305:11
Crusadedoes anyone have any information on it?05:12
lotuspsychjeCrusade: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Meizu-Confirms-MX4-Ubuntu-Touch-Release-for-December-2014-458782.shtml05:18
lotuspsychjejust spotted on the web05:18
dholbachgood morning06:51
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* tsdgeos sighs again07:38
tsdgeosubuntu-calendar-app .pot is obviously outdated07:38
tsdgeosand i don't seem to be able to push to it07:39
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mardydpm: hi! So, I just closed bug 136876308:32
ubot5bug 1368763 in Online Accounts setup for Ubuntu Touch "Main.qml file does not get installed correctly by the qml plugin hook" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136876308:32
mardydpm: it turns out that my analysis was wrong: the Main.qml file is there; the reason why the plugin doesn't load is that the binary QML module "Evernote" cannot be found08:33
Mirvany core-dev to ack debian/* changes for CI Train landings https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-001-2-publish/27/ (signon & co) and https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-001-2-publish/27/ (ubuntu-app-launch getting cgmanager dependency back)?08:36
Mirvsorry, the latter link should have been https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-013-2-publish/3/08:36
mardyMirv: hi! do I need to do something for silo 001, or is it all ready?08:39
Mirvmardy: we need that ^ some core-dev to ack packaging changes, otherwise it'd be ready. feel free to ping your friendly core-dev friend :)08:41
mardyMirv: do I have any? That's the question... :-)08:41
mardyLaney: are you a core-dev? :-) ^08:42
Mirvyes he is08:43
Laneyblurg?08:44
MirvLaney: packaging acks for the debian/ changes under the .changes link of https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-001-2-publish/27/ (and if you feel like it, also https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-013-2-publish/3/)08:47
LaneyMirv: they look okay to me08:47
Laney(was already looking, that wasn't suspiciously fast)08:48
Laney(...)08:48
Mirv:)08:48
mardyLaney: unrelated question: from within a process I want to know the architecture (as defined in debian, such as "arm-linux-gnueabihf") of the current process. Should I just pass it as a preprocessor symbol when building the process, or is there another way to obtain it?08:53
dpmah, thanks mardy, so what's the next step, do we need to fix something in the app, or in UOA... ?08:54
mardydpm: sorry, I need to ask you to file another bug :-) UOA needs to export the right QML2_IMPORT_PATH before running the plugin code08:55
mardydpm: I promise that this is the right bug :-)08:55
mardydpm: I'm already on it, but it feels nicer if it's somebody else filing the bug08:56
Laneymardy: I can't right now think of a better way than passing it in at build time (via a configure flag or similar, or better as a pcfile variable in the package providing the information you need), since you need to depend on dpkg-dev to query it and you don't want to do that.08:59
LaneyCould be that I don't know of a good way though08:59
dpmmardy, sure, bug 136994108:59
ubot5bug 1369941 in ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts (Ubuntu) "UOA needs to export export the right QML2_IMPORT_PATH before running plugin code" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136994108:59
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Working Parents Day! :-D09:04
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nerochiarosergiusens: any idea why i get this failure when trying to setup a device to run AP tests ? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8356781/10:00
ChipacaJamesTait: ooh! does that mean i get the day off?10:02
JamesTaitDoesn't seem like it, Chipaca. :(  Maybe we'll get cake.10:06
ChipacaJamesTait: around here that'll happen if i bake it :)10:06
* Chipaca notes: 1½ cups srf, 1 cup sugar, mixed. In a cup: an egg, 2 tblsp butter/light veg oil, fill cup with milk. add to dry and beat well. into the oven.10:08
JamesTaitChipaca, sorry, you're baking cake?  What time shall I plan to get there? ;)10:08
ChipacaJamesTait: we can make a distributed cake event10:09
* JamesTait thinks back to the London sprint a few years ago, and plotting to add a pizza target to our Makefile.10:10
JamesTaitcd casa-de-chipaca && make cake10:10
evpitti, bdmurray, Chipaca: davmor2 has the bug where whoopsie is generating a system identifier before it can talk to network-manager. This means that when he opens the system preferences page for error reports, it shows him none (because it's generating the identifier again, this time with n-m).10:17
evany objections to making whoopsie start on started network-manager?10:17
pittiev: NB that on servers we might not have NM, so it would never start there10:18
Chipacaev: none from me10:18
evpitti: yeah, if we grow support for servers we'll have to come up with a different plan10:18
evbut that's way down the road, as it'd require support in juju or landscape10:19
pittithis is again a case where we'd need "soft dependencies" in upstart, like systemd's Wants:, but I'm not aware of a direct equivalent10:19
pittiit's possible to emulate that with some tricks like wait-for-state10:19
pittiev: i. e. don't add that dependency, but instead in the pre-start script you check if "status network-manager" succeeds, and if so, call wait-for-state, like in /etc/init/plymouth-shutdown.conf10:21
pittiso that it'll wait for NM if NM is installed, and don't change behaviour without10:21
evoh neat, so start immediately unless network-manager is installed, in which case wait10:21
evyup10:21
pittiev: I didn't use wait-for-state myself yet, but I think the default arguments are quite sensible (i. e. much less complicated than in plymouth-shutdown)10:22
oSoMoNnerochiaro, I reviewed https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/gallery-app/desktop-i18n/+merge/234679 and added a couple of comments, it otherwise looks good to me, please ping me when you’ve addressed them, I’ll approve10:29
nerochiaromzanetti: hey, i am looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtubuntu-camera/+bug/1358101 and it seems everyone thinks that for RTM the best solution is making tagger just give up the camera when it goes to the background. a more proper solution (like the ones we discussed) will be for later. I can do the work, I just need to know how you build the click for it so I can test my changes10:35
ubot5Launchpad bug 1358101 in camera-app "camera is black if another application uses the camera sensor" [High,Confirmed]10:35
mzanettinerochiaro: does it actually still work for me?10:37
mzanettinerochiaro: for me it crashes when it tries to access the camera10:38
mzanettinerochiaro: anyways, there's a run on device script10:38
nerochiaromzanetti: i'll try that10:38
nerochiaromzanetti: you actually said that already, i forgot10:38
mzanettinerochiaro: check out -h10:39
evpitti: does this look reasonable http://paste.ubuntu.com/8357005/ ?10:40
pittiev: yes, it does; should be easy enough to test by shutting down both, starting whoopsie, and checking that it waits until you start NM?10:41
evyeah, just need to install n-m :)10:41
pittiev: oh, and I think you should move that down a bit after the other "should I run" tests10:41
evgood call10:41
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nerochiarooSoMoN: pushed the changes you requested11:03
nerochiarozbenjamin: is the "install developer tools" option supposed to work on the device now ? I get this in the log when I try: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)11:05
nerochiaroE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?11:05
zbenjaminnerochiaro: no11:05
nerochiarozbenjamin: ok11:05
zbenjaminnerochiaro: we most likely will remove it soon11:05
nerochiarothat's a bit sad, but ok11:05
zbenjaminnerochiaro: yeah adb does not run as root anymore, so we cannot just apt-get install11:06
zbenjaminnerochiaro: so you sadly need to do it yourself :(11:06
nerochiarozbenjamin: you can do the same with ssh11:06
zbenjaminnerochiaro: no root login on ssh11:06
nerochiarozbenjamin: and i guess no sudo11:06
zbenjaminnerochiaro: not without typing in the password11:07
nerochiarozbenjamin: right11:07
ogra_zbenjamin, there are ways to use sudo commands scripted via adb11:09
zbenjaminogra_:  oh?11:09
ogra_you need the PW indeed11:09
zbenjaminogra_: yeah, but the development on the device is really not what we support anymore anyway ;)11:09
ogra_ah, k11:10
ogra_zbenjamin, well, in case you need it http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phablet-tools/trunk/view/head:/phablet-config#L152 is the elegant way11:10
ogra_and: adb shell "echo $password|sudo -S <command>" is the ugly but quick way11:11
ogra_(the letter has the pw in the processlist, so people could read it with "ps")11:11
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nerochiarozbenjamin: do you know what it means when i try to install a click on the device and it says " Signature verification error: debsig: Origin Signature check failed. This deb might not be signed"11:21
ogra_did you use the --allow-unsigned (or how it is called) option ?11:22
nerochiaroogra_: ah no11:22
nerochiaroogra_: --allow-untrusted11:23
ogra_ah, right11:23
oSoMoNnerochiaro, more comments on your MR11:23
nerochiarooSoMoN: i pretty much copy and pasted that stuff from the browser to be honest. i'll simplify and double check it builds out of source11:27
oSoMoNnerochiaro, right, that’s what I thought, but copy/paste is not a good practice with cmake files, they get cluttered very quickly with stuff nobody remembers why it’s there in the first place, and maintenance becomes a nightmare11:30
nerochiarooSoMoN: judicious copy paste is fine. i wasn't very judicious ;)11:30
oSoMoNbetter get it right in the first place, and spare our future selves tedious maintenance11:31
oSoMoN:)11:31
sergiusensnerochiaro: add --distro and --series if on rtm11:31
sergiusensnerochiaro: I guess I can add that as an error message instead of the trace11:31
nerochiarosergiusens: that would help, yes11:32
nerochiaromzanetti: i get this when I build tagger on the device, create a click, install it, and then try to run the app from the shell: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8357308/11:33
nerochiaromzanetti: and the app doesn't start11:34
mzanettinerochiaro: yeah, that's what I said11:34
mzanettinerochiaro: seems to happen on the packages from the store too since a couple of days11:34
mzanettinerochiaro: also with Authenticator11:34
mzanettinerochiaro: whenever they try to access the camera => boom11:34
nerochiaromzanetti: but camera can do it fine. maybe something missing in the manifest ? apparmor stuff ?11:35
mzanettinerochiaro: did something change there lately?11:35
mzanettinerochiaro: I didn't get to debug it yet11:35
jjohansennerochiaro: any denied messages from apparmor?11:35
nerochiarojjohansen: how do we check ?11:35
jjohansengrep DENIED /var/log/syslog11:36
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sergiusensmzanetti: he, I logged this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/media-hub/+bug/137001111:46
ubot5Launchpad bug 1370011 in media-hub (Ubuntu) "media-hub backwards compat with authenticator broken" [Undecided,New]11:46
sergiusensnot sure you are aware of that11:46
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nerochiarooSoMoN: should work now11:49
nerochiarojjohansen: lots of stuff is being denied, but this is what is breaking us: Sep 16 11:24:06 ubuntu-phablet dbus[1802]: apparmor="DENIED" operation="dbus_method_call"  bus="session" path="/core/ubuntu/media/Service" interface="core.ubuntu.media.Service" member="CreateSession" mask="send" name="core.ubuntu.media.Service" pid=21732 profile="com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.tagger_ubuntu-sso_0.3.0" peer_pid=2531 peer_profile=11:51
nerochiaro"/usr/bin/media-hub-server"11:51
nerochiaromzanetti: ^11:51
mzanettiah.. interesting11:52
jdstrandI was going to report that11:53
nerochiarojjohansen: is it something we can fix with the policy file ?11:54
jdstrandyou need to add either the audio or video policygroup11:54
jdstrandnerochiaro: ^11:54
nerochiaromzanetti: on an unrelated note, you might want to set up your LP project to track bugs11:54
mzanettinerochiaro: true... I really didn't expect the app to get so much fame11:55
jdstrand(both allow connections to media-hub)11:55
mzanettinerochiaro: done11:56
jdstrandI tried it just now by adding "audio" to /var/lib/apparmor/clicks/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.tagger_tagger_0.4.0.1.json then running 'sudo aa-clickhook -f' and it worked fine11:58
jdstrandno denials11:58
mzanettiawesome. thanks11:59
jdstrandnp11:59
mzanettiah... so seems the camera requires audio now?11:59
nerochiarojdstrand: i fixed it in the json file then rebuilt the click and installed it, but with "video" instead of "audio". and i still get denied11:59
jjohansenmzanetti: that isn't really surprising and most cameras can record video12:00
jjohansenit would probably better to split it up more, but ...12:00
nerochiarojdstrand: nevermind, i had to run the clickhook first12:01
mzanettiwell... so far "camera" was enough to access the camera12:01
nerochiarojdstrand: it works for me too12:01
nerochiaromzanetti: "video" is enough to make it work12:01
mzanettihuh12:01
mzanettinow I am confused12:01
mzanettiwhat is "video" supposed to do?12:02
mzanettiI guess it implies "audio"12:02
oSoMoNnerochiaro, not there yet, see my last comment on the MR12:06
nerochiarooSoMoN: i don't understand. the build works both in and out of source tree. the .in.in is found and the .in.in.h is found12:07
mardydpm: account created! \o/12:07
oSoMoNnerochiaro, no, try changing a translated string in a qml file, and run make again, the template isn’t updated12:08
nerochiarooSoMoN: but why ? if it doesn't find the file is one thing, but it does find it. so why is it not picking up the strings ?12:08
jdstrandcamera is for playing video, audio for playing audio, microphone for recording audio and camera for recording video12:09
jdstrandmeh12:09
jdstrandvideo is for playing video12:09
jdstrandaudio for playing audio12:09
jdstrandmicrophone for recording audio12:09
jdstrandcamera for recording video12:09
jdstrandwhat happened is that media-hub is being used for a lot of things12:09
jdstrandtagger didn'12:09
dpmmardy, awesome!12:10
jdstrandt want the camera 'click' sound for a long time so it avoided the audio policy group12:10
jdstrandie, mzanetti happily accepted the denial12:10
jdstrandhowever, the Qt libraries changed to used media-hub12:10
oSoMoNnerochiaro, ${DESKTOP_FILE_IN_IN_H} is an absolute path, xgettext doesn’t understand that, so it silently fails12:10
jdstrandand apparently rather than exiting gracefully, they are crashing when not being able to connect to the media-hub12:11
mzanettijdstrand: thanks you very much for this explanation :)12:11
jdstrandnp12:12
nerochiarooSoMoN: bleh, what a piece of crap then. ok, i'll try with a -D and a relative path12:12
mzanettiso yeah... I'd still happily accept not having a click when taking pictures, given that the app never actually takes a picture12:12
mzanettiI'm not so happy about including permissions I don't need though...12:12
nerochiarooSoMoN: try now12:17
oSoMoNnerochiaro, will try after lunch12:30
jdstrandnerochiaro: re having to rerun aa-clickhook> fyi, you will have to do the if the version of the click didn't change12:30
nerochiarojdstrand: it didn't change as far as i could see12:31
nerochiarooSoMoN: thanks12:31
jdstrandnerochiaro: what do you mean?12:31
jdstrandnerochiaro: I though you said it started working?12:31
nerochiarojdstrand: sorry, misread your comment. please ignore the last thing i said12:31
jdstrandwell, it wasn't the greatest sentence :)12:32
oSoMoNnerochiaro, have you actually tested your change? the pot file still doesn’t get updated in an out-of-source build here12:37
ogra_dpm, hey, how do i tag translation bugs ? seems someone decided it woudl eb a good thing to transleate "HERE" (whcih is a product name) so it is called HIER everywhere in my german install12:37
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dpmogra_, I'd file a bug against the project and then add a task for ubuntu-translations, and we'll assign that task to a translation team12:38
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nerochiarooSoMoN: it does here12:42
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nerochiarooSoMoN: ok, nevermind, the .desktop gets updated but not the .po. but now i really don't understnad why. the path is a relative path and it's relative to the currnet build dir, where the file is12:47
nerochiarooSoMoN: are we sure we're supposed to update the .pot in out of source builds. i don't think it's the case12:48
nerochiarooSoMoN: an out of source build point is to not touch the source dir after all12:48
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Guest27761salve, qualcuno parla italiano? vorrei sapere se uscirà questo smarphone di ubuntu12:56
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oSoMoNnerochiaro, that’s open to debate, why not?13:05
oSoMoNnerochiaro, to try and understand what’s happening, you can run make with VERBOSE=1, you’ll see the actual commands issued by cmake13:07
oSoMoNI mean, by make13:07
oSoMoNnerochiaro, assuming your point of not updating the pot file in an out-of-source build is valid, I’ll test again and approve if it works13:07
nerochiarooSoMoN: I usually run with VERBOSE=1 to understand where errors come from, but in this case I saw the .desktop being generated fine and the pot updated fine in-tree so I thought everything was ok13:10
nerochiarooSoMoN: what happens with other apps, do they update the pot even when out of source ?13:11
Guest27761Hi, SOMEONE Speak Italian ? Do you know if I WANT THIS smartphone will be released for ubuntu13:13
alecuGuest27761: what smartphone is that?13:13
alecuGuest27761: cuale smartphone?13:14
nerochiaromzanetti: https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/tagger/stop-camera-on-inactive/+merge/234811 << fix the apparmor problem and stops and restart the camera when going inactive or active13:15
Guest27761correct me, I want to know if you can buy a smartphone with OS ubuntu touch . course in Italy !13:17
nerochiarobfiller: do you know if there's any final decision on whether or not notes-app will be a target for RTM ? last i heard it wasn't but not it's in the list of things to fix for RTM13:17
bfillernerochiaro: notes-app will not be a target for RTM, the bugs there that need to be fixed are not critical but should be fixed13:18
nerochiarobfiller: yes, but after the ones for RTM, right ?13:19
oSoMoNnerochiaro, browser does, I don’t know about others13:19
bfillernerochiaro: yes that is lower priority13:19
nerochiarobfiller: understood13:20
nerochiarooSoMoN: i personally would say it shouldn't but let's say it's optional, and just move on with gallery please13:20
oSoMoNnerochiaro, yes13:20
oSoMoNagreed13:20
nerochiarobfiller: also there was discussion about replacing it entirely with reminders. is that still a plan at some point in the future or it is not going to happen ?13:21
bfillernerochiaro: yes it's going to happen, reminders needs local note support is the issue that needs to be addressed13:31
bfillernerochiaro: there are other short term apps that are better than notes-app, like quick memo which might be used in the interim13:31
nerochiarobfiller: ok13:31
oSoMoNnerochiaro, approved13:31
nerochiarooSoMoN: thanks. bfiller https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/gallery-app/desktop-i18n/+merge/234679 is ready for silo13:35
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pittiboiko, bfiller: ah, apparently I mis-remembered, I figure I always ran something like "make pot" manually13:43
boikopitti: ok, np, so maybe having a well named rule is enough?13:43
boikopitti: or having a dh_something for that?13:44
pittiboiko: if a simple "make" doesnt' build it, that additional rule could then be called in debian/rules13:44
boikoyep13:44
pittiboiko: dh_translations attempts to run "make -C po <domain>.pot"13:45
pittiif that works, that's fine as well13:45
nerochiarosergiusens: earlier you suggested adding --distro and --series to phablet-test-run but it doesn't seem to have these options13:51
ogra_are you on the latest version ?13:52
sergiusensnerochiaro: update13:53
oSoMoNjodh, I’m looking at bug #1365492 that you reported a few days ago, I cannot reproduce on my device, is this something that you can observe reliably?13:54
ubot5bug 1365492 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "selecting previously visited site from address bar does nothing" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136549213:54
jodhoSoMoN: that's because it's now fixed :)13:54
oSoMoNjodh, yeah, I saw the "fix released" status, but I was skeptical because nothing happened on this front recently in the browser, maybe a UITK update?13:55
oSoMoNjodh, anyway, if it’s fixed for you, I’ll stop worrying about it :)13:55
sergiusensoSoMoN: I get that from time to time too13:55
oSoMoNsergiusens, the bug, you mean?13:56
jodhoSoMoN: no idea, but it's fixed. I've put a comment on the bug.13:56
sergiusensoSoMoN: yes, sometimes after intense use, using the history bar (or whatever it's called) is just ignored13:56
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oSoMoNsergiusens, would you mind filing another bug then? I can’t seem to re-open that one13:57
sergiusensack13:57
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john-mcaleelydoes anyone know if --bootstrap implies --wipe for u-d-f ?14:15
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john-mcaleelysergiusens, ^ ?14:27
sergiusensjohn-mcaleely: it does14:28
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john-mcaleelysergiusens, thank you14:29
sergiusensnp14:29
kenvandinejgdx, i want to land the uitk api bump branch today, can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/uitk_api_bump/+merge/23446314:30
jgdxkenvandine, sure14:30
kenvandinejgdx, seb128 and pat both tested it yesterday14:31
kenvandineno issues reported14:31
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jgdxkenvandine, have any visuals or behaviour changed?14:40
kenvandinejgdx, not that i can tell :)14:40
kenvandinebut maybe :-D14:40
jgdxkenvandine, what's the difference of this branch and the other I tested?14:41
kenvandinejust merged latest trunk14:41
kenvandinewhich i think only touched the wifi plugin14:42
kenvandinetiny changes14:42
jgdxthe check boxes have become laggier14:42
jgdxe.g. in language14:42
kenvandinelike where?14:42
kenvandinei thought in general it felt snappier14:42
jgdxsome binding loops in notifications14:44
jgdxnot sure if they are new14:44
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kenvandinejgdx, not new, i just verified on my rtm device14:46
jgdxgreat14:46
jgdxkenvandine, the ringer vol slider is most def snappier14:47
jgdxsame for brightness14:47
jgdxgolden, +114:47
kenvandinewoot14:47
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nik90rsalveti: ping15:24
nik90rsalveti: (about emulator)15:24
rsalvetiChipaca: I think I got a ping from you yesterday15:26
rsalvetijust saw that now, sorry15:26
Chipacarsalveti: you did!15:26
Chipacarsalveti: no worries.15:26
rsalvetinik90: pong15:27
Chipacarsalveti: was wondering about the sound volume for messages15:27
nik90rsalveti: hey, I noticed an issue when running apps on the emulator for some time...after about 20 tries, I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/8357783/15:27
nik90rsalveti: I was told by zbenjamin that the sdk launcher is fine, the emulator may be at fault.15:28
rsalvetiChipaca: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/136882715:28
ubot5Launchpad bug 1368827 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "[touch] indicator needs to be able to control volume per audio role" [High,Confirmed]15:28
rsalvetiChipaca: inprogress15:28
rsalveti:-)15:28
nik90rsalveti: so my regular workflow is make some changes in qtc, and then run app on emulator. After about 15-20 cycles of that I get that error.15:28
Chipacarsalveti: ah, ok15:28
nik90rsalveti: On rebooting the emulator, it starts working as expected.15:28
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HyburdzMCHi ?15:37
rsalvetinik90: right, that is part of a known issue we have in the emulator15:42
rsalvetinik90: it's not releasing the egl surfaces when closing the app15:42
rsalvetiso after opening/closing a few times, it can't allocated any memory for the virtual gpu anymore15:42
rsalvetithen you need to restart the emulator15:42
nik90ah15:43
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rsalvetinik90: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/android/+bug/131958215:55
ubot5Launchpad bug 1319582 in Mir "emulator: 'Failed to start RenderThread' after opening/closing applications" [High,Triaged]15:55
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kenvandinejgdx, if you have time, can you help test silo 1?16:17
kenvandinejgdx, nevermind... i'll just go through the whole test plan :)16:18
jgdxkenvandine, what line in the spreadsheet?16:18
kenvandine7616:18
jgdxkenvandine, sure, but I need to flash first I think16:19
bfillernerochiaro: seems one AP test is failing with your Share branch: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-click-autopilot-runner-mako/547/testReport/gallery_app.tests.test_photo_viewer/TestPhotoViewer/test_share_button/16:21
kenvandinejgdx, hmm... wifi hotspot is on the test plan but i don't see it, i guess it's still hidden16:25
kenvandinepmcgowan, should the wifi hotspot setting be showing?16:25
jgdxwasn't that wont'doed?16:26
kenvandinei know code landed for it, but i don't think it was working well16:27
kenvandinei don't recall16:27
kenvandineit ended up on the test plan though :)16:27
jgdxkenvandine, "connect ain't a dialog" is soonishly up for review (missing tests). Mind having a go at it when debs are built? https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/wifi-connect-is-not-dialog-fix-1366006/+merge/23484216:29
kenvandinejgdx, sure16:29
jgdxI need some guidance and input.16:29
jgdxthanks16:29
tvossnik90, around?16:29
tvossnik90, if so: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-00216:30
nik90tvoss: hi :-)16:30
nik90tvoss: yup Mirv told me about it. Do you need me to test it?16:30
tvossnik90, yup16:30
tvossnik90, would appreciate your feedback16:30
nik90tvoss: definitely. thnx16:31
tvossnik90, thank you16:31
nik90tvoss: oh this is the error signal branch16:31
tvossnik90, mail is fine for me16:31
nik90tvoss: Mirv pointed me at a AGPS branch involving HERE. Did that already land?16:31
tvossnik90, mostly, yes16:32
nik90cool16:32
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jgdxkenvandine, do you know what this is? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8358994/16:34
kenvandineoh... no i don't16:35
kenvandinemust be from the changes to adbd16:35
jgdxaww16:35
* jgdx upgrades and crosses fingers16:35
kenvandinedamn... the location stuff in the test plan doesn't work for me... with or without this silo :/16:37
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dobeydid something change in online-accounts in rtm since friday? i'm having some trouble with testing purchases, and getting some oddness when it's trying to get the u1 account from online-accounts17:02
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dobeyhuh, and having trouble flashing now17:06
dobey2014/09/16 13:06:21 Cannot push /home/dobey/.cache/ubuntuimages/pool/ubuntu-a7190e9e460a09f6756665cd2f3c09430be188ef2c46c79e23f21e9f4aaecc12.tar.xz.asc to device: free space on /cache/recovery is denied17:06
dobeyi already rm'd the existing .tar.xz files in /cache/recovery on the device17:07
dobeyso what does that error mean?17:07
olliany of the music app authors around17:11
ahayzen_olli, hey17:11
ollihey ahayzen_17:11
ahayzen_olli, i'm one of the music-app devs whats up?17:12
olliahayzen_, we were reviewing bugs and would like to raise https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1365993 to critical17:12
ubot5Launchpad bug 1365993 in content-hub "Support download of albums as zip files from 7Digital" [Critical,New]17:12
olliI was able to set the content-hub portion to critical, but don't have privileges for Ubuntu Music app17:12
ahayzen_olli, ok i'll mark it such :)17:12
ollithe commercial team was suggesting that this is important for RTM17:12
olliahayzen_, thanks!17:13
ahayzen_olli, no problem, do we have a plan for how this will work yet? eg content-hub doing the extraction or music-app itself, i've seen some comments on that bug but nothing decisive?17:13
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olliahayzen_, I don't have any insight, just updating a bunch of bugs atm17:19
ollitvoss, ^ ?17:19
ahayzen_olli, ah no worries thanks17:20
tvossahayzen_, olli looking17:21
tvossahayzen_, olli jdstrand's suggestion makes total sense. Do you want me to reply on the bug report?17:23
ahayzen_tvoss, it looks like the best way... i assume music-app wouldn't have to have many changes as it would be in content-hub itself? ... note i'm working on adding multiple file import at the moment to our content-hub support17:25
tvossahayzen_, yup, the idea is to handle this in a way that is transparent to apps. Content Hub wouldn't do the extraction but delegate to a confined helper instead17:26
ahayzen_tvoss, ok that makes sense, you probably don't need to comment on the bug unless kenvandine requires any more clarification as well?17:28
tvossahayzen_, I think we are good, feel free to ping me at any time17:29
ahayzen_tvoss, thanks, i assume kenvandine will be working on the content-hub side?17:29
tvossahayzen_, yup, that should be correct17:30
ahayzen_tvoss, cool thanks for your help :)17:30
tvossahayzen_, yw :)17:30
kenvandinetvoss, we should add ubuntu-download-manager and browser-app to this bug right?17:32
kenvandinethe special case for the headers needs to be in the browser17:32
kenvandineand udm needs the extract stuff17:32
tvosskenvandine, yeah17:32
* kenvandine adds17:33
kenvandinetvoss, i added and assigned the usual suspects for those components17:36
tvosskenvandine, great, thank you17:38
kenvandinenp17:38
nik90tvoss: I have touble adding the silo 002 ppa to my utopic devel-proposed phone,17:44
tvossnik90, why is that?17:45
nik90tvoss: moving to ci-eng17:45
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mozzarellaguys19:34
mozzarellahow can I try ubuntu phone19:36
Kebabfishmozzarella: by installing it on a phone or tablet (http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/)19:42
mozzarellaKebabfish: my phone is not supported19:44
mozzarellacan I test it on the desktop?19:44
mozzarellathrough an emulator or something19:45
Kebabfishmozzarella: there is an emulator for the desktop19:45
Kebabfishbut i never got it running19:45
Kebabfishso cant help you there :/19:45
montamerHi guys, my device(Moto-G) is not supported by ubuntu touch. So i am trying to port it, but facing a kernel crash and need help.19:51
montamerlog is at http://pastebin.com/vv0ajD3d19:51
montamerkernel is crashing after execution of /sbin/init19:51
montamercan someone help me understand bootup sequence?19:52
Chipacapmcgowan: ping19:53
Chipacamozzarella: try the emulator, it should work (tm)19:53
pmcgowanChipaca, hey19:54
Chipacapmcgowan: “There is a system setting to control this behavior when the phone is locked”19:54
Chipacapmcgowan: but ... there isn't19:54
Chipacapmcgowan: or i'm not seeing it :)19:54
pmcgowanChickenCutlass, when locked show notifications19:54
mozzarellaChipaca: where can I find instructions19:54
Chipacapmcgowan: not there19:54
pmcgowanChipaca, sec & priv19:55
pmcgowanlock phone19:55
Chipacapmcgowan: ah!19:55
pmcgowanwhen locked allow:19:55
pmcgowanaha19:55
Chipacafound it :)19:55
pmcgowanits bad no one can find it19:55
Chipacapmcgowan: the "phone lockinbg" thing makes you think it's just a dropdown19:55
Chipacaor sth19:55
Chipacai forget it has more opts19:56
pmcgowanah yeah19:56
dobeymozzarella: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator19:56
pmcgowan> means new panel19:56
pmcgowanbut when we add test there it fools folks19:56
pmcgowantext19:56
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Chipacamhall119: ^^^20:15
mhall119Chipaca: ?20:17
Chipacamhall119: you do have that setting. it's hidden in plain sight. see pmcgowan's guide above.20:17
mhall119Chipaca: I have "Lock security" but that only lets me switch between swipe to unlock, passcode or passphrase, nothing about allowing notifications on the welcome screen20:18
Chipacamhall119: where it says "lock phone       After 1 minute >"20:19
mhall119maybe something new has landed in utopic-proposed20:19
Chipacamhall119: tap that20:19
mhall119Chipaca: it doesn't say that for me20:19
Chipacamhall119: dude, r203 is so last week20:20
mhall119Chipaca: more like 3 weeks ago :(20:20
Chipacamhall119: oooh... had we invented antialiasing back then? or is it still, like, fvwm95?20:22
mhall119Chipaca: anti-aliasing? Is that something you only get on terminals with more than 80 columns?20:22
Chipacamhall119: i have no idea. I think it's something to do with compilers.20:23
* mhall119 goes back to toggling register switches20:23
pmcgowanmhall119, may not be promoted yet for sure20:23
Chipacamhall119: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliasing_(computing)20:23
Chipacatvoss: ping20:24
Chipacapmcgowan: i can't find the setting under which that is stored, have asked on list20:24
tvossChipaca, pong, still on my list, my machine died today and only recovering now20:24
Chipacapmcgowan: but i have the nasty suspicion it is stored by scribbling on some paper and giving it to a chicken20:24
pmcgowanChipaca, gee hope not20:25
Chipacatvoss: my condolences. Do you get bereavement leave?20:25
tvossChipaca, for sure, my beloved x220 :/20:25
tvosson the bright side: x240 rocks20:25
Chipacatvoss: how's the keyboard on that?20:26
tvossChipaca, well, different but not bad20:26
tvossfull hd is awesome, though20:26
Chipacagood20:26
Chipacaheh. yeah. had that for four years now, dunno if i could go back20:26
tvossthe x220 screen was fine too, specifically the IPS variant20:27
dobey4k for life20:27
dobeywell, until 8k is reasonably priced20:28
Chipacatvoss: backlit keyboard?20:28
tvossChipaca, yup20:28
Chipaca:)20:28
tvossdobey, true20:28
dobeytoo bad my laptop isn't 4k though20:29
tvossChipaca, I have an external classic lenovo thinkpad keyboard, so I can cope20:29
Chipacadobey: the 4k displays are on the "red glow-in-the-dark gaming laptop" market segment right now20:33
dobeyChipaca: well i'm not really in the market for a new laptop at the moment either20:34
dobeyhaven't even had this xps13 for a full year yet20:35
tvossdobey, how do oyu like the xps13?20:36
dobeytvoss: the fact that it's about the same size as a 12" laptop is a huge +20:37
tvossdobey, yeah, that's important to me, too20:37
dobeytvoss: i'm not a fan of trackpads, but finding any laptop that's not a lenovo without a trackpad is basically impossible20:38
dobeythe one on the xps isn't too bad at least20:38
dobeywhat i *really* want is a 10" laptop with at least 1080p, happy hacking keyboard layout (or at least fully customizable keyboard), and nipple pointer20:39
cm-thi, congrats for the new image !20:39
tvossdobey, yeah ... same here. I never liked any laptop larger than 12"20:40
cm-tI am on mako, daily use, I report some bug sometimes, but I use as my main phone (doesn't have a 2nd phone or dual boot).20:40
dobeyyeah, it's too bad my fujitsu laptop is poulsbo graphics20:40
mhall119tedg: how does URL dispatcher handle URLs matching multiple apps?20:40
dobeyright now, what i really want though, is to have a working mako again on devel-proposed20:40
cm-twith the new rtm release, should i stay on devel channel or change to rtm?  (current devel is not quite stable, must reboot 3 time/day)20:40
dobeybut ubuntu-device-flash has been sitting here for 40 minutes now, apparently doing nothing20:41
dobeymaybe i chould ^C it, and try to flash android back on it, and then try to flash ubuntu again20:42
mhall119dobey: did you use --chanel ubuntu-rtm -b 0 ?20:42
tedgmhall119, Right now it chooses the "most precise definition", in the future (15.04) we'll have some sort of user interaction.20:42
mhall119IIRC, you need the -b 0 when switching channels20:42
dobeymhall119: what is -b 0?20:43
mhall119dobey: act as if you have build #0 installed20:43
mozzarellais the OS called ubuntu phone or ubuntu touch?20:43
mhall119so it forces a full image install from that channel20:43
mhall119mozzarella: it's called Ubuntu, technically20:43
dobeymozzarella: it's called ubuntu20:43
dobeymhall119: i don't see a -b in --help20:44
mhall119"touch" and "phone" are added when convenient to differentiate it from desktop20:44
mozzarelladoes it use systemd?20:44
dobeymhall119: i was currently trying --bootstrap whislt in the bootloader though20:44
mhall119dobey: ah, that's right, it's on system-image-cli on the device itself20:44
mhall119mozzarella: not yet but it will eventually20:44
dobeymhall119: anyway, i'm trying to flash devel-proposed20:44
dobeyand i thought using ubuntu-device-flash always used the full image20:45
mhall119maybe it does20:45
mozzarellamhall119: why am I seeing "systemd-logind" then?20:46
mhall119mozzarella: because we use logind, which comes from systemd but can (for now, on Ubuntu) be run without systemd as the init system20:47
dobeyok, android flashing time20:48
cm-tto swithch from devel to rtm, i have to plug my device to an host pc and then ubuntu-flash-device --channel ubuntu-rtm -b 0 ?20:49
cm-t @mako20:49
dobeyor maybe not, it says "downloading..." in the bootloader again20:49
mhall119cm-t: -b 0 is only available on system-image-cli on the device, I was mistaken on that20:49
iBelieveDoes anyone know how to install the new RTM image using MultiROM? I only see channels like utopic, devel, stable, trusty, etc. I don’t see ubuntu-rtm/14.0920:51
cm-tshould I upgrade from the device itself? (didn't find yet how to do that) so I don't need to re install everything like apps, medias, contacts…20:52
TassadariBelieve: which device do you have?20:52
iBelieveTassadar: I have a Nexus 7 (2013)20:53
SturmFlutThe feeling when there are just two other people between me and Jono Bacon on LinkedIn20:53
iBelieveTassadar: I see ubuntu-rtm/14.09 in the official dual boot app, which I used to use before I switched to MultiROM20:54
TassadariBelieve: enable "Show hidden channels" in the settings20:54
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TassadarI'm not sure why the app thinks it is hidden...it shouldn't be20:54
Tassadarprobably bug20:54
Tassadaroh, no20:54
Tassadaractually, 14.09-proposed is really hidden and no other chanel is visible because they don't have any images in them20:55
Tassadarso it behaves as intended20:55
iBelieveTassadar: so there aren’t any images in 14.09?20:56
Tassadarnot yet20:56
Tassadarthere are probably some blocker bugs still20:57
iBelieveTassadar: I noticed the landing email only mentioned krillin and mako, not flo at all20:57
Tassadaroh yeah, mako has one, flo has not20:58
TassadarI don't know why, I'm not working on it20:58
iBelieveTassadar: thanks for your help in debugging that. I look forward to a promotion for flo :)20:58
Tassadarhmm, and the image 14.09 has separete versioning from -proposed20:59
Tassadarinteresting20:59
iBelieveTassadar: and great work with MultiROM!20:59
dobeycm-t: you can't switch channels on the device itself, i don't think21:00
TassadariBelieve: thanks21:00
Tassadarthat reminds me, I can enable the 14.09 channel on tasemnice now21:03
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montamercan someone help me understand bootup sequence?21:08
cm-tdobey: ok, I will flash it, but I have a sort of problem…21:23
cm-tI am trying to backup my contacts with syncevolution using this howto http://askubuntu.com/questions/365675/backup-export-contacts-from-ubuntu-touch-official-launch-r100-ubuntu-13-10-a21:24
cm-tbut I have an error message about X11  ???21:24
cm-t [ERROR] creating source registry: Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY21:25
cm-t[ERROR] creating source registry: Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY21:25
cm-tsorry double21:25
cm-tworking without sudo…21:46
boikoawe: hey, about this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dialer-app/+bug/136977422:23
ubot5Launchpad bug 1369774 in dialer-app (Ubuntu) "Can't make an emergency call when FlightMode is active" [High,New]22:23
boikoawe: do you know what we need to do on dialer-app's side to take the phone out of flight mode?22:24
aweboiko, this would involve disabling FlightMode via urfkill22:25
boikoawe: any pointers of documentation/sample code I could use?22:26
boikoawe: also, should that be disabled automatically or should we prompt the user with a message? (I guess the first as it is emergency)22:27
cm-twow ubuntu-rtm/14.09 not working on mako→ I can see the language select screen, I can't have interaction (selecting the language) because the screen goes black(but can see backlight)22:31
cm-tafter 10 seconde or so, i see the 'plymouth' cof, and I see the Hi screen again to select langiage22:32
cm-tand this time i try to just puch continu even if its not my language, same22:33
cm-tit keep rebooting22:33
cm-tafter rebooting, same behavior22:35
cm-tsad :/22:35
cm-tah! I just pushed "continue" with succes, next stap, no crash yet22:36
cm-t( after 1 or 2 relaunch itself, succes, now rebooting to apply new language)22:41
cm-tplease tell me where to report this bug: can't select la,guage on fisrt launch setting boot settings22:41
cm-tplease tell me where to report this bug: "can't select language on fisrt launch setting boot settings"22:42
cm-tnot sure what package is it22:42
mozzarellahttp://i.imgur.com/N69zvN5.png23:00
mozzarellawhat am I supposed to do with that?23:00
Chipacamozzarella: what do you mean?23:06
mozzarellanevermind, it was just extremely slow23:06
Chipacamozzarella: you are using the x86 emulator, yes?23:07
mozzarellayes, inside a virtual machine (virtualbox)23:07
Chipacahah23:07
mozzarellabecause I'm not using ubuntu on my desktop23:07
mozzarellado you know how I can install the emulator on fedora?23:08
Chipacamozzarella: no idea, sorry23:08
mozzarella=/23:08
pdxwebdevok. So..... using devel-proposed instead of devel allowed me to build-dep ubuntu-system-settings without causing lightdm to fail23:31
pdxwebdev...on boot23:32
pdxwebdevI wish I could get my 5 days back. lol23:32

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