=== ValicekB_ is now known as ValicekB [00:36] rsalveti: ping? === Laney is now known as Guest45203 === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem [04:39] http://news.softpedia.com/news/Meizu-Confirms-MX4-Ubuntu-Touch-Release-for-December-2014-458782.shtml [04:39] finally some news :p [04:55] kgunn__: hey! did you figure out how to run AP tests with the new phablet/adb/password stuff? [04:55] kgunn__: I recently adjusted autopkgtest to work with that, so I think I mostly know what works and what doesn't now === Guest44127 is now known as thelionroars [05:03] you guys did great work! === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [05:11] hello! I'm curious about Ubuntu touch for the meizu mx3 [05:12] does anyone have any information on it? [05:18] Crusade: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Meizu-Confirms-MX4-Ubuntu-Touch-Release-for-December-2014-458782.shtml [05:18] just spotted on the web [06:51] good morning === tvoss is now known as tvoss|test === tvoss|test is now known as tvoss === willcooke_ is now known as willcooke [07:38] * tsdgeos sighs again [07:38] ubuntu-calendar-app .pot is obviously outdated [07:39] and i don't seem to be able to push to it === Guest45203 is now known as Laney === ljp_ is now known as lpotter [08:32] dpm: hi! So, I just closed bug 1368763 [08:32] bug 1368763 in Online Accounts setup for Ubuntu Touch "Main.qml file does not get installed correctly by the qml plugin hook" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1368763 [08:33] dpm: it turns out that my analysis was wrong: the Main.qml file is there; the reason why the plugin doesn't load is that the binary QML module "Evernote" cannot be found [08:36] any core-dev to ack debian/* changes for CI Train landings https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-001-2-publish/27/ (signon & co) and https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-001-2-publish/27/ (ubuntu-app-launch getting cgmanager dependency back)? [08:36] sorry, the latter link should have been https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-013-2-publish/3/ [08:39] Mirv: hi! do I need to do something for silo 001, or is it all ready? [08:41] mardy: we need that ^ some core-dev to ack packaging changes, otherwise it'd be ready. feel free to ping your friendly core-dev friend :) [08:41] Mirv: do I have any? That's the question... :-) [08:42] Laney: are you a core-dev? :-) ^ [08:43] yes he is [08:44] blurg? [08:47] Laney: packaging acks for the debian/ changes under the .changes link of https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-001-2-publish/27/ (and if you feel like it, also https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-013-2-publish/3/) [08:47] Mirv: they look okay to me [08:48] (was already looking, that wasn't suspiciously fast) [08:48] (...) [08:48] :) [08:53] Laney: unrelated question: from within a process I want to know the architecture (as defined in debian, such as "arm-linux-gnueabihf") of the current process. Should I just pass it as a preprocessor symbol when building the process, or is there another way to obtain it? [08:54] ah, thanks mardy, so what's the next step, do we need to fix something in the app, or in UOA... ? [08:55] dpm: sorry, I need to ask you to file another bug :-) UOA needs to export the right QML2_IMPORT_PATH before running the plugin code [08:55] dpm: I promise that this is the right bug :-) [08:56] dpm: I'm already on it, but it feels nicer if it's somebody else filing the bug [08:59] mardy: I can't right now think of a better way than passing it in at build time (via a configure flag or similar, or better as a pcfile variable in the package providing the information you need), since you need to depend on dpkg-dev to query it and you don't want to do that. [08:59] Could be that I don't know of a good way though [08:59] mardy, sure, bug 1369941 [08:59] bug 1369941 in ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts (Ubuntu) "UOA needs to export export the right QML2_IMPORT_PATH before running plugin code" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1369941 [09:04] Good morning all; happy Working Parents Day! :-D === ondra| is now known as ondra [10:00] sergiusens: any idea why i get this failure when trying to setup a device to run AP tests ? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8356781/ [10:02] JamesTait: ooh! does that mean i get the day off? [10:06] Doesn't seem like it, Chipaca. :( Maybe we'll get cake. [10:06] JamesTait: around here that'll happen if i bake it :) [10:08] * Chipaca notes: 1½ cups srf, 1 cup sugar, mixed. In a cup: an egg, 2 tblsp butter/light veg oil, fill cup with milk. add to dry and beat well. into the oven. [10:08] Chipaca, sorry, you're baking cake? What time shall I plan to get there? ;) [10:09] JamesTait: we can make a distributed cake event [10:10] * JamesTait thinks back to the London sprint a few years ago, and plotting to add a pizza target to our Makefile. [10:10] cd casa-de-chipaca && make cake [10:17] pitti, bdmurray, Chipaca: davmor2 has the bug where whoopsie is generating a system identifier before it can talk to network-manager. This means that when he opens the system preferences page for error reports, it shows him none (because it's generating the identifier again, this time with n-m). [10:17] any objections to making whoopsie start on started network-manager? [10:18] ev: NB that on servers we might not have NM, so it would never start there [10:18] ev: none from me [10:18] pitti: yeah, if we grow support for servers we'll have to come up with a different plan [10:19] but that's way down the road, as it'd require support in juju or landscape [10:19] this is again a case where we'd need "soft dependencies" in upstart, like systemd's Wants:, but I'm not aware of a direct equivalent [10:19] it's possible to emulate that with some tricks like wait-for-state [10:21] ev: i. e. don't add that dependency, but instead in the pre-start script you check if "status network-manager" succeeds, and if so, call wait-for-state, like in /etc/init/plymouth-shutdown.conf [10:21] so that it'll wait for NM if NM is installed, and don't change behaviour without [10:21] oh neat, so start immediately unless network-manager is installed, in which case wait [10:21] yup [10:22] ev: I didn't use wait-for-state myself yet, but I think the default arguments are quite sensible (i. e. much less complicated than in plymouth-shutdown) [10:29] nerochiaro, I reviewed https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/gallery-app/desktop-i18n/+merge/234679 and added a couple of comments, it otherwise looks good to me, please ping me when you’ve addressed them, I’ll approve [10:35] mzanetti: hey, i am looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtubuntu-camera/+bug/1358101 and it seems everyone thinks that for RTM the best solution is making tagger just give up the camera when it goes to the background. a more proper solution (like the ones we discussed) will be for later. I can do the work, I just need to know how you build the click for it so I can test my changes [10:35] Launchpad bug 1358101 in camera-app "camera is black if another application uses the camera sensor" [High,Confirmed] [10:37] nerochiaro: does it actually still work for me? [10:38] nerochiaro: for me it crashes when it tries to access the camera [10:38] nerochiaro: anyways, there's a run on device script [10:38] mzanetti: i'll try that [10:38] mzanetti: you actually said that already, i forgot [10:39] nerochiaro: check out -h [10:40] pitti: does this look reasonable http://paste.ubuntu.com/8357005/ ? [10:41] ev: yes, it does; should be easy enough to test by shutting down both, starting whoopsie, and checking that it waits until you start NM? [10:41] yeah, just need to install n-m :) [10:41] ev: oh, and I think you should move that down a bit after the other "should I run" tests [10:41] good call === Azelphur_ is now known as Azelphur [11:03] oSoMoN: pushed the changes you requested [11:05] zbenjamin: is the "install developer tools" option supposed to work on the device now ? I get this in the log when I try: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) [11:05] E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? [11:05] nerochiaro: no [11:05] zbenjamin: ok [11:05] nerochiaro: we most likely will remove it soon [11:05] that's a bit sad, but ok [11:06] nerochiaro: yeah adb does not run as root anymore, so we cannot just apt-get install [11:06] nerochiaro: so you sadly need to do it yourself :( [11:06] zbenjamin: you can do the same with ssh [11:06] nerochiaro: no root login on ssh [11:06] zbenjamin: and i guess no sudo [11:07] nerochiaro: not without typing in the password [11:07] zbenjamin: right [11:09] zbenjamin, there are ways to use sudo commands scripted via adb [11:09] ogra_: oh? [11:09] you need the PW indeed [11:09] ogra_: yeah, but the development on the device is really not what we support anymore anyway ;) [11:10] ah, k [11:10] zbenjamin, well, in case you need it http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phablet-tools/trunk/view/head:/phablet-config#L152 is the elegant way [11:11] and: adb shell "echo $password|sudo -S " is the ugly but quick way [11:11] (the letter has the pw in the processlist, so people could read it with "ps") === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === _salem is now known as salem_ [11:21] zbenjamin: do you know what it means when i try to install a click on the device and it says " Signature verification error: debsig: Origin Signature check failed. This deb might not be signed" [11:22] did you use the --allow-unsigned (or how it is called) option ? [11:22] ogra_: ah no [11:23] ogra_: --allow-untrusted [11:23] ah, right [11:23] nerochiaro, more comments on your MR [11:27] oSoMoN: i pretty much copy and pasted that stuff from the browser to be honest. i'll simplify and double check it builds out of source [11:30] nerochiaro, right, that’s what I thought, but copy/paste is not a good practice with cmake files, they get cluttered very quickly with stuff nobody remembers why it’s there in the first place, and maintenance becomes a nightmare [11:30] oSoMoN: judicious copy paste is fine. i wasn't very judicious ;) [11:31] better get it right in the first place, and spare our future selves tedious maintenance [11:31] :) [11:31] nerochiaro: add --distro and --series if on rtm [11:31] nerochiaro: I guess I can add that as an error message instead of the trace [11:32] sergiusens: that would help, yes [11:33] mzanetti: i get this when I build tagger on the device, create a click, install it, and then try to run the app from the shell: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8357308/ [11:34] mzanetti: and the app doesn't start [11:34] nerochiaro: yeah, that's what I said [11:34] nerochiaro: seems to happen on the packages from the store too since a couple of days [11:34] nerochiaro: also with Authenticator [11:34] nerochiaro: whenever they try to access the camera => boom [11:35] mzanetti: but camera can do it fine. maybe something missing in the manifest ? apparmor stuff ? [11:35] nerochiaro: did something change there lately? [11:35] nerochiaro: I didn't get to debug it yet [11:35] nerochiaro: any denied messages from apparmor? [11:35] jjohansen: how do we check ? [11:36] grep DENIED /var/log/syslog === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [11:46] mzanetti: he, I logged this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/media-hub/+bug/1370011 [11:46] Launchpad bug 1370011 in media-hub (Ubuntu) "media-hub backwards compat with authenticator broken" [Undecided,New] [11:46] not sure you are aware of that === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [11:49] oSoMoN: should work now [11:51] jjohansen: lots of stuff is being denied, but this is what is breaking us: Sep 16 11:24:06 ubuntu-phablet dbus[1802]: apparmor="DENIED" operation="dbus_method_call" bus="session" path="/core/ubuntu/media/Service" interface="core.ubuntu.media.Service" member="CreateSession" mask="send" name="core.ubuntu.media.Service" pid=21732 profile="com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.tagger_ubuntu-sso_0.3.0" peer_pid=2531 peer_profile= [11:51] "/usr/bin/media-hub-server" [11:51] mzanetti: ^ [11:52] ah.. interesting [11:53] I was going to report that [11:54] jjohansen: is it something we can fix with the policy file ? [11:54] you need to add either the audio or video policygroup [11:54] nerochiaro: ^ [11:54] mzanetti: on an unrelated note, you might want to set up your LP project to track bugs [11:55] nerochiaro: true... I really didn't expect the app to get so much fame [11:55] (both allow connections to media-hub) [11:56] nerochiaro: done [11:58] I tried it just now by adding "audio" to /var/lib/apparmor/clicks/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.tagger_tagger_0.4.0.1.json then running 'sudo aa-clickhook -f' and it worked fine [11:58] no denials [11:59] awesome. thanks [11:59] np [11:59] ah... so seems the camera requires audio now? [11:59] jdstrand: i fixed it in the json file then rebuilt the click and installed it, but with "video" instead of "audio". and i still get denied [12:00] mzanetti: that isn't really surprising and most cameras can record video [12:00] it would probably better to split it up more, but ... [12:01] jdstrand: nevermind, i had to run the clickhook first [12:01] well... so far "camera" was enough to access the camera [12:01] jdstrand: it works for me too [12:01] mzanetti: "video" is enough to make it work [12:01] huh [12:01] now I am confused [12:02] what is "video" supposed to do? [12:02] I guess it implies "audio" [12:06] nerochiaro, not there yet, see my last comment on the MR [12:07] oSoMoN: i don't understand. the build works both in and out of source tree. the .in.in is found and the .in.in.h is found [12:07] dpm: account created! \o/ [12:08] nerochiaro, no, try changing a translated string in a qml file, and run make again, the template isn’t updated [12:08] oSoMoN: but why ? if it doesn't find the file is one thing, but it does find it. so why is it not picking up the strings ? [12:09] camera is for playing video, audio for playing audio, microphone for recording audio and camera for recording video [12:09] meh [12:09] video is for playing video [12:09] audio for playing audio [12:09] microphone for recording audio [12:09] camera for recording video [12:09] what happened is that media-hub is being used for a lot of things [12:09] tagger didn' [12:10] mardy, awesome! [12:10] t want the camera 'click' sound for a long time so it avoided the audio policy group [12:10] ie, mzanetti happily accepted the denial [12:10] however, the Qt libraries changed to used media-hub [12:10] nerochiaro, ${DESKTOP_FILE_IN_IN_H} is an absolute path, xgettext doesn’t understand that, so it silently fails [12:11] and apparently rather than exiting gracefully, they are crashing when not being able to connect to the media-hub [12:11] jdstrand: thanks you very much for this explanation :) [12:12] np [12:12] oSoMoN: bleh, what a piece of crap then. ok, i'll try with a -D and a relative path [12:12] so yeah... I'd still happily accept not having a click when taking pictures, given that the app never actually takes a picture [12:12] I'm not so happy about including permissions I don't need though... [12:17] oSoMoN: try now [12:30] nerochiaro, will try after lunch [12:30] nerochiaro: re having to rerun aa-clickhook> fyi, you will have to do the if the version of the click didn't change [12:31] jdstrand: it didn't change as far as i could see [12:31] oSoMoN: thanks [12:31] nerochiaro: what do you mean? [12:31] nerochiaro: I though you said it started working? [12:31] jdstrand: sorry, misread your comment. please ignore the last thing i said [12:32] well, it wasn't the greatest sentence :) [12:37] nerochiaro, have you actually tested your change? the pot file still doesn’t get updated in an out-of-source build here [12:37] dpm, hey, how do i tag translation bugs ? seems someone decided it woudl eb a good thing to transleate "HERE" (whcih is a product name) so it is called HIER everywhere in my german install === mandel is now known as mandel|lunch [12:38] ogra_, I'd file a bug against the project and then add a task for ubuntu-translations, and we'll assign that task to a translation team === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [12:42] oSoMoN: it does here === gnu is now known as Guest44658 [12:47] oSoMoN: ok, nevermind, the .desktop gets updated but not the .po. but now i really don't understnad why. the path is a relative path and it's relative to the currnet build dir, where the file is [12:48] oSoMoN: are we sure we're supposed to update the .pot in out of source builds. i don't think it's the case [12:48] oSoMoN: an out of source build point is to not touch the source dir after all === gio is now known as Guest27761 [12:56] salve, qualcuno parla italiano? vorrei sapere se uscirà questo smarphone di ubuntu === salem_ is now known as _salem === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [13:05] nerochiaro, that’s open to debate, why not? [13:07] nerochiaro, to try and understand what’s happening, you can run make with VERBOSE=1, you’ll see the actual commands issued by cmake [13:07] I mean, by make [13:07] nerochiaro, assuming your point of not updating the pot file in an out-of-source build is valid, I’ll test again and approve if it works [13:10] oSoMoN: I usually run with VERBOSE=1 to understand where errors come from, but in this case I saw the .desktop being generated fine and the pot updated fine in-tree so I thought everything was ok [13:11] oSoMoN: what happens with other apps, do they update the pot even when out of source ? [13:13] Hi, SOMEONE Speak Italian ? Do you know if I WANT THIS smartphone will be released for ubuntu [13:13] Guest27761: what smartphone is that? [13:14] Guest27761: cuale smartphone? [13:15] mzanetti: https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/tagger/stop-camera-on-inactive/+merge/234811 << fix the apparmor problem and stops and restart the camera when going inactive or active [13:17] correct me, I want to know if you can buy a smartphone with OS ubuntu touch . course in Italy ! [13:17] bfiller: do you know if there's any final decision on whether or not notes-app will be a target for RTM ? last i heard it wasn't but not it's in the list of things to fix for RTM [13:18] nerochiaro: notes-app will not be a target for RTM, the bugs there that need to be fixed are not critical but should be fixed [13:19] bfiller: yes, but after the ones for RTM, right ? [13:19] nerochiaro, browser does, I don’t know about others [13:19] nerochiaro: yes that is lower priority [13:20] bfiller: understood [13:20] oSoMoN: i personally would say it shouldn't but let's say it's optional, and just move on with gallery please [13:20] nerochiaro, yes [13:20] agreed [13:21] bfiller: also there was discussion about replacing it entirely with reminders. is that still a plan at some point in the future or it is not going to happen ? [13:31] nerochiaro: yes it's going to happen, reminders needs local note support is the issue that needs to be addressed [13:31] nerochiaro: there are other short term apps that are better than notes-app, like quick memo which might be used in the interim [13:31] bfiller: ok [13:31] nerochiaro, approved [13:35] oSoMoN: thanks. bfiller https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/gallery-app/desktop-i18n/+merge/234679 is ready for silo === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === beuno_ is now known as beuno [13:43] boiko, bfiller: ah, apparently I mis-remembered, I figure I always ran something like "make pot" manually [13:43] pitti: ok, np, so maybe having a well named rule is enough? [13:44] pitti: or having a dh_something for that? [13:44] boiko: if a simple "make" doesnt' build it, that additional rule could then be called in debian/rules [13:44] yep [13:45] boiko: dh_translations attempts to run "make -C po .pot" [13:45] if that works, that's fine as well [13:51] sergiusens: earlier you suggested adding --distro and --series to phablet-test-run but it doesn't seem to have these options [13:52] are you on the latest version ? [13:53] nerochiaro: update [13:54] jodh, I’m looking at bug #1365492 that you reported a few days ago, I cannot reproduce on my device, is this something that you can observe reliably? [13:54] bug 1365492 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "selecting previously visited site from address bar does nothing" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1365492 [13:54] oSoMoN: that's because it's now fixed :) [13:55] jodh, yeah, I saw the "fix released" status, but I was skeptical because nothing happened on this front recently in the browser, maybe a UITK update? [13:55] jodh, anyway, if it’s fixed for you, I’ll stop worrying about it :) [13:55] oSoMoN: I get that from time to time too [13:56] sergiusens, the bug, you mean? [13:56] oSoMoN: no idea, but it's fixed. I've put a comment on the bug. [13:56] oSoMoN: yes, sometimes after intense use, using the history bar (or whatever it's called) is just ignored === greyback__ is now known as greyback [13:57] sergiusens, would you mind filing another bug then? I can’t seem to re-open that one [13:57] ack === _salem is now known as salem_ [14:15] does anyone know if --bootstrap implies --wipe for u-d-f ? === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === gatox_ultra is now known as gatox [14:27] sergiusens, ^ ? [14:28] john-mcaleely: it does === cyphermox_ is now known as cyphermox [14:29] sergiusens, thank you [14:29] np [14:30] jgdx, i want to land the uitk api bump branch today, can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/uitk_api_bump/+merge/234463 [14:30] kenvandine, sure [14:31] jgdx, seb128 and pat both tested it yesterday [14:31] no issues reported === artmello_ is now known as artmello [14:40] kenvandine, have any visuals or behaviour changed? [14:40] jgdx, not that i can tell :) [14:40] but maybe :-D [14:41] kenvandine, what's the difference of this branch and the other I tested? [14:41] just merged latest trunk [14:42] which i think only touched the wifi plugin [14:42] tiny changes [14:42] the check boxes have become laggier [14:42] e.g. in language [14:42] like where? [14:42] i thought in general it felt snappier [14:44] some binding loops in notifications [14:44] not sure if they are new === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [14:46] jgdx, not new, i just verified on my rtm device [14:46] great [14:47] kenvandine, the ringer vol slider is most def snappier [14:47] same for brightness [14:47] golden, +1 [14:47] woot === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === mandel|lunch is now known as mandel === salem_ is now known as _salem === elopio_ is now known as elopio [15:24] rsalveti: ping [15:24] rsalveti: (about emulator) [15:26] Chipaca: I think I got a ping from you yesterday [15:26] just saw that now, sorry [15:26] rsalveti: you did! [15:26] rsalveti: no worries. [15:27] nik90: pong [15:27] rsalveti: was wondering about the sound volume for messages [15:27] rsalveti: hey, I noticed an issue when running apps on the emulator for some time...after about 20 tries, I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/8357783/ [15:28] rsalveti: I was told by zbenjamin that the sdk launcher is fine, the emulator may be at fault. [15:28] Chipaca: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1368827 [15:28] Launchpad bug 1368827 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "[touch] indicator needs to be able to control volume per audio role" [High,Confirmed] [15:28] Chipaca: inprogress [15:28] :-) [15:28] rsalveti: so my regular workflow is make some changes in qtc, and then run app on emulator. After about 15-20 cycles of that I get that error. [15:28] rsalveti: ah, ok [15:28] rsalveti: On rebooting the emulator, it starts working as expected. === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [15:37] Hi ? [15:42] nik90: right, that is part of a known issue we have in the emulator [15:42] nik90: it's not releasing the egl surfaces when closing the app [15:42] so after opening/closing a few times, it can't allocated any memory for the virtual gpu anymore [15:42] then you need to restart the emulator [15:43] ah === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader [15:55] nik90: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/android/+bug/1319582 [15:55] Launchpad bug 1319582 in Mir "emulator: 'Failed to start RenderThread' after opening/closing applications" [High,Triaged] === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [16:17] jgdx, if you have time, can you help test silo 1? [16:18] jgdx, nevermind... i'll just go through the whole test plan :) [16:18] kenvandine, what line in the spreadsheet? [16:18] 76 [16:19] kenvandine, sure, but I need to flash first I think [16:21] nerochiaro: seems one AP test is failing with your Share branch: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-click-autopilot-runner-mako/547/testReport/gallery_app.tests.test_photo_viewer/TestPhotoViewer/test_share_button/ [16:25] jgdx, hmm... wifi hotspot is on the test plan but i don't see it, i guess it's still hidden [16:25] pmcgowan, should the wifi hotspot setting be showing? [16:26] wasn't that wont'doed? [16:27] i know code landed for it, but i don't think it was working well [16:27] i don't recall [16:27] it ended up on the test plan though :) [16:29] kenvandine, "connect ain't a dialog" is soonishly up for review (missing tests). Mind having a go at it when debs are built? https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/wifi-connect-is-not-dialog-fix-1366006/+merge/234842 [16:29] jgdx, sure [16:29] I need some guidance and input. [16:29] thanks [16:29] nik90, around? [16:30] nik90, if so: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-002 [16:30] tvoss: hi :-) [16:30] tvoss: yup Mirv told me about it. Do you need me to test it? [16:30] nik90, yup [16:30] nik90, would appreciate your feedback [16:31] tvoss: definitely. thnx [16:31] nik90, thank you [16:31] tvoss: oh this is the error signal branch [16:31] nik90, mail is fine for me [16:31] tvoss: Mirv pointed me at a AGPS branch involving HERE. Did that already land? [16:32] nik90, mostly, yes [16:32] cool === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [16:34] kenvandine, do you know what this is? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8358994/ [16:35] oh... no i don't [16:35] must be from the changes to adbd [16:35] aww [16:35] * jgdx upgrades and crosses fingers [16:37] damn... the location stuff in the test plan doesn't work for me... with or without this silo :/ === _salem is now known as salem_ === XDS2010___ is now known as XDS2010 === dholbach__ is now known as dholbach [17:02] did something change in online-accounts in rtm since friday? i'm having some trouble with testing purchases, and getting some oddness when it's trying to get the u1 account from online-accounts === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader [17:06] huh, and having trouble flashing now [17:06] 2014/09/16 13:06:21 Cannot push /home/dobey/.cache/ubuntuimages/pool/ubuntu-a7190e9e460a09f6756665cd2f3c09430be188ef2c46c79e23f21e9f4aaecc12.tar.xz.asc to device: free space on /cache/recovery is denied [17:07] i already rm'd the existing .tar.xz files in /cache/recovery on the device [17:07] so what does that error mean? [17:11] any of the music app authors around [17:11] olli, hey [17:11] hey ahayzen_ [17:12] olli, i'm one of the music-app devs whats up? [17:12] ahayzen_, we were reviewing bugs and would like to raise https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1365993 to critical [17:12] Launchpad bug 1365993 in content-hub "Support download of albums as zip files from 7Digital" [Critical,New] [17:12] I was able to set the content-hub portion to critical, but don't have privileges for Ubuntu Music app [17:12] olli, ok i'll mark it such :) [17:12] the commercial team was suggesting that this is important for RTM [17:13] ahayzen_, thanks! [17:13] olli, no problem, do we have a plan for how this will work yet? eg content-hub doing the extraction or music-app itself, i've seen some comments on that bug but nothing decisive? === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [17:19] ahayzen_, I don't have any insight, just updating a bunch of bugs atm [17:19] tvoss, ^ ? [17:20] olli, ah no worries thanks [17:21] ahayzen_, olli looking [17:23] ahayzen_, olli jdstrand's suggestion makes total sense. Do you want me to reply on the bug report? [17:25] tvoss, it looks like the best way... i assume music-app wouldn't have to have many changes as it would be in content-hub itself? ... note i'm working on adding multiple file import at the moment to our content-hub support [17:26] ahayzen_, yup, the idea is to handle this in a way that is transparent to apps. Content Hub wouldn't do the extraction but delegate to a confined helper instead [17:28] tvoss, ok that makes sense, you probably don't need to comment on the bug unless kenvandine requires any more clarification as well? [17:29] ahayzen_, I think we are good, feel free to ping me at any time [17:29] tvoss, thanks, i assume kenvandine will be working on the content-hub side? [17:30] ahayzen_, yup, that should be correct [17:30] tvoss, cool thanks for your help :) [17:30] ahayzen_, yw :) [17:32] tvoss, we should add ubuntu-download-manager and browser-app to this bug right? [17:32] the special case for the headers needs to be in the browser [17:32] and udm needs the extract stuff [17:32] kenvandine, yeah [17:33] * kenvandine adds [17:36] tvoss, i added and assigned the usual suspects for those components [17:38] kenvandine, great, thank you [17:38] np [17:44] tvoss: I have touble adding the silo 002 ppa to my utopic devel-proposed phone, [17:45] nik90, why is that? [17:45] tvoss: moving to ci-eng === gatox_ultra is now known as gatox === tvoss is now known as tvoss|test === tvoss|test is now known as tvoss === gnu is now known as Guest16220 === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [19:34] guys [19:36] how can I try ubuntu phone [19:42] mozzarella: by installing it on a phone or tablet (http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/) [19:44] Kebabfish: my phone is not supported [19:44] can I test it on the desktop? [19:45] through an emulator or something [19:45] mozzarella: there is an emulator for the desktop [19:45] but i never got it running [19:45] so cant help you there :/ [19:51] Hi guys, my device(Moto-G) is not supported by ubuntu touch. So i am trying to port it, but facing a kernel crash and need help. [19:51] log is at http://pastebin.com/vv0ajD3d [19:51] kernel is crashing after execution of /sbin/init [19:52] can someone help me understand bootup sequence? [19:53] pmcgowan: ping [19:53] mozzarella: try the emulator, it should work (tm) [19:54] Chipaca, hey [19:54] pmcgowan: “There is a system setting to control this behavior when the phone is locked” [19:54] pmcgowan: but ... there isn't [19:54] pmcgowan: or i'm not seeing it :) [19:54] ChickenCutlass, when locked show notifications [19:54] Chipaca: where can I find instructions [19:54] pmcgowan: not there [19:55] Chipaca, sec & priv [19:55] lock phone [19:55] pmcgowan: ah! [19:55] when locked allow: [19:55] aha [19:55] found it :) [19:55] its bad no one can find it [19:55] pmcgowan: the "phone lockinbg" thing makes you think it's just a dropdown [19:55] or sth [19:56] i forget it has more opts [19:56] ah yeah [19:56] mozzarella: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator [19:56] > means new panel [19:56] but when we add test there it fools folks [19:56] text === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [20:15] mhall119: ^^^ [20:17] Chipaca: ? [20:17] mhall119: you do have that setting. it's hidden in plain sight. see pmcgowan's guide above. [20:18] Chipaca: I have "Lock security" but that only lets me switch between swipe to unlock, passcode or passphrase, nothing about allowing notifications on the welcome screen [20:19] mhall119: where it says "lock phone After 1 minute >" [20:19] maybe something new has landed in utopic-proposed [20:19] mhall119: tap that [20:19] Chipaca: it doesn't say that for me [20:20] mhall119: dude, r203 is so last week [20:20] Chipaca: more like 3 weeks ago :( [20:22] mhall119: oooh... had we invented antialiasing back then? or is it still, like, fvwm95? [20:22] Chipaca: anti-aliasing? Is that something you only get on terminals with more than 80 columns? [20:23] mhall119: i have no idea. I think it's something to do with compilers. [20:23] * mhall119 goes back to toggling register switches [20:23] mhall119, may not be promoted yet for sure [20:23] mhall119: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliasing_(computing) [20:24] tvoss: ping [20:24] pmcgowan: i can't find the setting under which that is stored, have asked on list [20:24] Chipaca, pong, still on my list, my machine died today and only recovering now [20:24] pmcgowan: but i have the nasty suspicion it is stored by scribbling on some paper and giving it to a chicken [20:25] Chipaca, gee hope not [20:25] tvoss: my condolences. Do you get bereavement leave? [20:25] Chipaca, for sure, my beloved x220 :/ [20:25] on the bright side: x240 rocks [20:26] tvoss: how's the keyboard on that? [20:26] Chipaca, well, different but not bad [20:26] full hd is awesome, though [20:26] good [20:26] heh. yeah. had that for four years now, dunno if i could go back [20:27] the x220 screen was fine too, specifically the IPS variant [20:27] 4k for life [20:28] well, until 8k is reasonably priced [20:28] tvoss: backlit keyboard? [20:28] Chipaca, yup [20:28] :) [20:28] dobey, true [20:29] too bad my laptop isn't 4k though [20:29] Chipaca, I have an external classic lenovo thinkpad keyboard, so I can cope [20:33] dobey: the 4k displays are on the "red glow-in-the-dark gaming laptop" market segment right now [20:34] Chipaca: well i'm not really in the market for a new laptop at the moment either [20:35] haven't even had this xps13 for a full year yet [20:36] dobey, how do oyu like the xps13? [20:37] tvoss: the fact that it's about the same size as a 12" laptop is a huge + [20:37] dobey, yeah, that's important to me, too [20:38] tvoss: i'm not a fan of trackpads, but finding any laptop that's not a lenovo without a trackpad is basically impossible [20:38] the one on the xps isn't too bad at least [20:39] what i *really* want is a 10" laptop with at least 1080p, happy hacking keyboard layout (or at least fully customizable keyboard), and nipple pointer [20:39] hi, congrats for the new image ! [20:40] dobey, yeah ... same here. I never liked any laptop larger than 12" [20:40] I am on mako, daily use, I report some bug sometimes, but I use as my main phone (doesn't have a 2nd phone or dual boot). [20:40] yeah, it's too bad my fujitsu laptop is poulsbo graphics [20:40] tedg: how does URL dispatcher handle URLs matching multiple apps? [20:40] right now, what i really want though, is to have a working mako again on devel-proposed [20:40] with the new rtm release, should i stay on devel channel or change to rtm? (current devel is not quite stable, must reboot 3 time/day) [20:41] but ubuntu-device-flash has been sitting here for 40 minutes now, apparently doing nothing [20:42] maybe i chould ^C it, and try to flash android back on it, and then try to flash ubuntu again [20:42] dobey: did you use --chanel ubuntu-rtm -b 0 ? [20:42] mhall119, Right now it chooses the "most precise definition", in the future (15.04) we'll have some sort of user interaction. [20:42] IIRC, you need the -b 0 when switching channels [20:43] mhall119: what is -b 0? [20:43] dobey: act as if you have build #0 installed [20:43] is the OS called ubuntu phone or ubuntu touch? [20:43] so it forces a full image install from that channel [20:43] mozzarella: it's called Ubuntu, technically [20:43] mozzarella: it's called ubuntu [20:44] mhall119: i don't see a -b in --help [20:44] "touch" and "phone" are added when convenient to differentiate it from desktop [20:44] does it use systemd? [20:44] mhall119: i was currently trying --bootstrap whislt in the bootloader though [20:44] dobey: ah, that's right, it's on system-image-cli on the device itself [20:44] mozzarella: not yet but it will eventually [20:44] mhall119: anyway, i'm trying to flash devel-proposed [20:45] and i thought using ubuntu-device-flash always used the full image [20:45] maybe it does [20:46] mhall119: why am I seeing "systemd-logind" then? [20:47] mozzarella: because we use logind, which comes from systemd but can (for now, on Ubuntu) be run without systemd as the init system [20:48] ok, android flashing time [20:49] to swithch from devel to rtm, i have to plug my device to an host pc and then ubuntu-flash-device --channel ubuntu-rtm -b 0 ? [20:49] @mako [20:49] or maybe not, it says "downloading..." in the bootloader again [20:49] cm-t: -b 0 is only available on system-image-cli on the device, I was mistaken on that [20:51] Does anyone know how to install the new RTM image using MultiROM? I only see channels like utopic, devel, stable, trusty, etc. I don’t see ubuntu-rtm/14.09 [20:52] should I upgrade from the device itself? (didn't find yet how to do that) so I don't need to re install everything like apps, medias, contacts… [20:52] iBelieve: which device do you have? [20:53] Tassadar: I have a Nexus 7 (2013) [20:53] The feeling when there are just two other people between me and Jono Bacon on LinkedIn [20:54] Tassadar: I see ubuntu-rtm/14.09 in the official dual boot app, which I used to use before I switched to MultiROM [20:54] iBelieve: enable "Show hidden channels" in the settings === salem_ is now known as _salem [20:54] I'm not sure why the app thinks it is hidden...it shouldn't be [20:54] probably bug [20:54] oh, no [20:55] actually, 14.09-proposed is really hidden and no other chanel is visible because they don't have any images in them [20:55] so it behaves as intended [20:56] Tassadar: so there aren’t any images in 14.09? [20:56] not yet [20:57] there are probably some blocker bugs still [20:57] Tassadar: I noticed the landing email only mentioned krillin and mako, not flo at all [20:58] oh yeah, mako has one, flo has not [20:58] I don't know why, I'm not working on it [20:58] Tassadar: thanks for your help in debugging that. I look forward to a promotion for flo :) [20:59] hmm, and the image 14.09 has separete versioning from -proposed [20:59] interesting [20:59] Tassadar: and great work with MultiROM! [21:00] cm-t: you can't switch channels on the device itself, i don't think [21:00] iBelieve: thanks [21:03] that reminds me, I can enable the 14.09 channel on tasemnice now === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [21:08] can someone help me understand bootup sequence? [21:23] dobey: ok, I will flash it, but I have a sort of problem… [21:24] I am trying to backup my contacts with syncevolution using this howto http://askubuntu.com/questions/365675/backup-export-contacts-from-ubuntu-touch-official-launch-r100-ubuntu-13-10-a [21:24] but I have an error message about X11 ??? [21:25] [ERROR] creating source registry: Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY [21:25] [ERROR] creating source registry: Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY [21:25] sorry double [21:46] working without sudo… [22:23] awe: hey, about this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dialer-app/+bug/1369774 [22:23] Launchpad bug 1369774 in dialer-app (Ubuntu) "Can't make an emergency call when FlightMode is active" [High,New] [22:24] awe: do you know what we need to do on dialer-app's side to take the phone out of flight mode? [22:25] boiko, this would involve disabling FlightMode via urfkill [22:26] awe: any pointers of documentation/sample code I could use? [22:27] awe: also, should that be disabled automatically or should we prompt the user with a message? (I guess the first as it is emergency) [22:31] wow ubuntu-rtm/14.09 not working on mako→ I can see the language select screen, I can't have interaction (selecting the language) because the screen goes black(but can see backlight) [22:32] after 10 seconde or so, i see the 'plymouth' cof, and I see the Hi screen again to select langiage [22:33] and this time i try to just puch continu even if its not my language, same [22:33] it keep rebooting [22:35] after rebooting, same behavior [22:35] sad :/ [22:36] ah! I just pushed "continue" with succes, next stap, no crash yet [22:41] ( after 1 or 2 relaunch itself, succes, now rebooting to apply new language) [22:41] please tell me where to report this bug: can't select la,guage on fisrt launch setting boot settings [22:42] please tell me where to report this bug: "can't select language on fisrt launch setting boot settings" [22:42] not sure what package is it [23:00] http://i.imgur.com/N69zvN5.png [23:00] what am I supposed to do with that? [23:06] mozzarella: what do you mean? [23:06] nevermind, it was just extremely slow [23:07] mozzarella: you are using the x86 emulator, yes? [23:07] yes, inside a virtual machine (virtualbox) [23:07] hah [23:07] because I'm not using ubuntu on my desktop [23:08] do you know how I can install the emulator on fedora? [23:08] mozzarella: no idea, sorry [23:08] =/ [23:31] ok. So..... using devel-proposed instead of devel allowed me to build-dep ubuntu-system-settings without causing lightdm to fail [23:32] ...on boot [23:32] I wish I could get my 5 days back. lol