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diddledanand I'm back00:01
daftykins:(00:01
daftykinsfor reference btw channel, any events in my life i share are not for reproducing elsewhere in other channels.00:01
diddledan:-(00:02
daftykinsthere's far too much drama on this network at times00:03
diddledanI'm not sure my memory is good enough to be able to spill about folk in here :-p00:04
daftykinshehe00:04
diddledanif it were I'm sure I'd at least get the names wrong00:04
daftykinsit wasn't particularly here in this case00:05
daftykinssadly the -ops thought it was ok to share in my recent past00:05
diddledangrr00:05
daftykinsthen someone PM'd me to discuss... and reproduced that to them00:08
daftykinswithout warning00:08
ali1234you know this channel is logged right?00:19
diddledanthis looks freaky: http://store.steampowered.com/app/246070/?snr=1_237_151__10300:19
daftykinsali1234: yep00:20
daftykinsali1234: are you referring to my discussion now, or assuming they got the info via another means?00:21
daftykins'cause it's not, for the latter00:21
ali1234just saying, anyone can grep the logs if they feel like causing trouble00:26
daftykinsso you meant the first option? :)00:26
ali1234both00:27
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SuperMattpopey: how do you think canonical staff would respond to travelling to north london for a release party at a pub with Unicorn in its name?07:42
DJonesMorning all07:43
knightwisemorning !07:43
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davmor2Morning all08:21
MyrttiI urgently need someone to tell me I shouldn't put a bid on a Fiskars Fuse Die cutting and letterpress machine08:22
Myrttimy rationality is rapidly dwindling08:22
davmor2Myrtti: put in a bid but really, really low and don't bid on it again, that way you either get a massive bargain or you get out bid,  just don't look at it again till the auction is over08:24
Myrttiah, it actually looks like it's cheaper in Amazon than getting it cheap from US, even when eBay tries to tell me there's no extra cost involved08:29
Myrttiah, misread. nevermind.08:29
Myrttiso Amazon it would be08:29
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:41
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Working Parents Day! :-D09:03
brobostigonmorning JamesTait09:04
JamesTaitbrobostigon, o/09:05
awilkinsTomorrow ; Malfunctioning Parents Day09:10
popeySuperMatt: well, probably, however a large chunk of the company will not be around.09:40
* popey wonders if czajkowski is at the library https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/2gipwn/somebody_left_their_dog_in_the_library_i_feel/10:02
czajkowskipopey: LOL10:05
czajkowskiBash isn't buding from the floor passed out from todays 2 mile walk uphill10:05
popeyMartijnV1S: is this near you? if so, please go there, buy all of it and send it to me. https://plus.google.com/u/0/116565300061740734711/posts/dKQoVDCLZV410:10
davmor2JamesTait: is that not an oxymoron10:11
JamesTaitdavmor2, who are you calling a moron? :-P10:11
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diddledanmoron alert: morning everyone10:18
davmor2diddledan: man that's harsh calling yourself a moron as you enter a room ;)10:24
davmor2JamesTait: You obviously :p10:24
diddledanwell we all know it10:24
diddledan:-p10:24
JamesTaitCan you feel the love?10:28
* diddledan refrains from comment10:29
SuperMattI can feel the love10:30
SuperMattbut that's because you put my hands in your pants10:30
diddledanand that's why I refrained10:30
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czajkowskiJamesTait: http://youtu.be/aF4CWCXirZ810:48
diddledanczajkowski: you realise that's akin to japanese animated pr0n for lions?10:55
czajkowskionly in your twisted noggin tis disney10:55
diddledan:-p10:56
diddledanczajkowski: sshh, don't tell anyone, because it might diminish my manliness, but Disney rocks!10:59
LaneyDisnep11:00
czajkowskiLaney: ello there you coming to oggcamp?11:01
LaneyAs a kid I read the 'y' in their logo as a 'p'11:02
Laneystuck with me11:02
Laneysup czajkowski, dunno, when/where?11:02
Laneyooooh posh11:03
Laneybut no probably not11:03
czajkowski4/5 october oxford11:03
* davmor2 tip-toes up behind czajkowski and shouts BOO!11:49
diddledaneek, that even scared me11:49
czajkowskidavmor2: ello sunshine11:52
davmor2diddledan: why are you at czajkowski 's?11:52
popeyTurns out pot noodles can be greatly improved via the addition of sriracha12:44
awilkinsSo can eggy bread with salad12:55
* awilkins has just acquired a bottle of Sriracha from an Asian food shop for much less cash than the prices on Amazon12:56
awilkinsI like that the small bottle is a pound of sauce.12:56
diddledanI fixed a bug and I like it13:40
* diddledan sings13:41
MartijnV1Spopey: I don't know where that is14:14
diddledano_O14:14
dutchieczajkowski: i'm going to oggcamp!14:59
popeyyay14:59
dutchie:)14:59
dutchie*and* i get a free floor to sleep on from my postgrad friends14:59
davmor2I'm not :(  I wanted to this year too being as the Mother in law was holding us back this year.  Then the council decided it would be a good time to gut our property and re do the kitchen, bathroom, toilet, plumbing and electrics :(15:01
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Laneyat once?15:07
davmor2Laney: over 4 weeks15:07
Laneyextreme15:07
davmor2Laney: indeed one team follows another15:08
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NET||abusehi guys, been looking for an app i used some time ago, Giver, but i don't see a 14.04 or recent version?15:41
NET||abuseany alternate projects worth looking into for similar functionality?15:42
dutchiewhat functionality is that? "Giver" is not the easiest name to do a web search for15:44
popeyit lets you share files over a network easily15:44
popeywas a novell hackfest project iirc15:45
dutchieah i think i remember it now actually15:45
popeyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP3uxPsOUms15:45
dutchiei tend to just use scp/rsync15:45
popeyi think this services a different need15:47
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)15:48
bigcalmIs there a good application that I can install so that I can then right click on a file and encrypt it with GPG for a specified public key?15:48
awilkinsYou can add a script to the scripts folder to do this, no?16:02
awilkins~/.local/share/nautilus/scripts16:02
awilkinsShell script, use   "$@" for parameter, boom16:02
popeydirecthex: do you know of a way to unpack a xap file?16:06
directhexun... unzip?16:06
popeynope16:07
popeyi think it's encrypted16:07
popeyrot13 or something ☻16:07
popeylooks like they're DRM signed.16:09
MarkDudepopey, you have a goto guide or two for setting up Plex? Its on my todo list :)16:59
daftykinsXBMC!17:05
bigcalmKodi?17:09
bigcalm(mentioned a bit in recent uupc)17:10
* bigcalm dog walks17:10
daftykinsit's a terrible name17:12
daftykinsand it's only Kodi to me once that version goes final (:17:13
* MarkDude is not so much of a fan with most things with X in it17:13
MarkDudeKNOW its its a great project, but its failed me with a record that NOTHING else comes close to :(17:14
MarkDudeAlmost as much as Windows does17:14
daftykinswell that makes no sense.17:14
MarkDudeIf I have old hardware, Puppy Linux tends to be more stable17:15
* MarkDude is a part of groups that install XFCE, its just not going in my house :)17:15
MarkDudeNothing wrong with it. Just not my cup of tea17:15
daftykinsi can't really follow your conversation, you flitted on each and every line17:18
MarkDudeLooking for Plex brilliance from popey or others17:18
MarkDudeUsing Ubuntu17:18
* MarkDude has some really strong opinions on XFCE, realized a while ago- that I should keep that to myself17:19
MarkDudeMy not wanting to use it is based upon setting up classrooms, people, computers- and having it fail- ONLY when folks cant fix it. Or dying in way it cant be fixed from elsewhere17:20
popeyyo17:21
MarkDudeFOSS is about choice. /me is part of another project, most of which know I have been using Ubuntu (instead of my Distro)17:21
popeyyeah, i put a chromecast in the lounge, and installed plex media server on my home server.17:22
popeyI eneded up paying for the phone app to control it.17:22
MarkDudeit just work (trademarked)17:22
popeythere's a guide I followed17:22
MarkDudeYep - and paying for phoneapp makes sense17:22
popeythe plex server runs on my home server full of content17:22
popeyit does indeed Just Work ™17:22
* MarkDude actually bought iMovie, so I could just make movies17:22
MarkDudeTy popey - you saved me hella time17:23
MarkDudeAnd no insult meant to XCFE, its an awesome project that does great stuff :)17:23
popeylemme see if i can find the guide17:23
popeyi think you mean XBMC ☻17:23
MarkDudeCool- if not- send itmy way17:24
MarkDudeno- /me says bad things about XFCE17:24
MarkDudeXMBC - not quite the volume of not-likey-ness17:24
MarkDude\IMO17:24
popeyhttp://allaboutchromecast.com/how-to-use-plex-media-server-to-stream-local-media-to-chromecast-from-your-pc/ boom17:25
popeyi think thats the one17:25
MarkDudePerfect- Chromecast is on this months todo list :)17:25
popeyhehe17:26
popeyi have 3 now17:26
popeyi can't buy one of anything17:26
MarkDudeTrue. Im needing 2 more already17:27
MarkDudepopey, you are using regular computer? Im not sure current Pi is quick enough?17:28
Myrttiplex + chromecast = ♥17:32
Myrttiwe've got the plex server on our nas17:33
* MarkDude is in process of new installs, and shifting machines. Will be nice to have media in one place, as opposed to maybe 20 places- lol17:39
* MarkDude needs to go see a man about a dog....17:39
MarkDude:D17:39
diddledanMyrtti: is that a synology?17:43
MyrttiNetgear ReadyNAS17:44
diddledanwe're using a synology at work. they're ok, but I don't really like the "desktop" style of web interface17:44
daftykinsthey're pretty functional though17:53
daftykinsbut yeah, a 'lite' edition would be welcome17:54
directhexi discovered how bad windows 8 is last night17:54
directhexyou can't add a NAS to your music or video libraries, for use by the default video/music apps.17:54
directhexunless the NAS runs Windows Home Server17:54
daftykinslol17:54
daftykinspeople actually use libraries? o017:55
directhexyou can't display metadata of files that aren't in a library ^_^17:56
daftykinsproperties?17:57
diddledancan someone tell me what's unique about this? https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pep-pretty-easy-privacy17:58
diddledanbesides completely reinventing the wheel I mean17:59
diddledanwhy should I use that over something like gpg?17:59
diddledanthe first proper trailer for "the hunger games: mockingjay part1" is out: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi616541977/18:16
diddledanit looks sweet18:16
diddledan\o/ for teen fiction18:16
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mappshmm18:58
diddledanhmm18:58
mappsjust wondering what to do19:01
davmor2mapps: you still on pain killers etc?19:08
mappsno19:08
mappsi started watching cold in july19:08
mappsbut just cba19:08
mappsstupid hayfevers making me sneeze loads19:09
mapps#19:10
MartijnV1Shttp://www.commitstrip.com/en/2014/09/16/le-commitstrip-test/19:43
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* dutchie feels sorry for the guy on ml who is currently being buried under dozens of lines of grep/sed/awk that he does not appear to even slightly understand22:07
dutchieturning into a code golf competition22:08
diddledandutchie: yeah I saw that22:11
daftykinsml?22:16
dutchiemailing list22:17
dutchiehttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2014-September/037891.html22:17
daftykinsty sir22:28
daftykinswow, that's nasty22:29
daftykinsi'd hate to have a machine compromised22:30
christelit sucks big time22:34
daftykinsyarr? not necessarily knowing the source would probably be really aggravating22:35
daftykinsin fact this is a good wake up call to remind me to do some backup :D22:35
christeltell me about it ... we're in the midst of forensics on the eight compromised freenode boxes22:36
christelwith absolutely NO clue as to the ingress point22:36
daftykins:/22:36
daftykinsthat was definitely a nasty one22:36
daftykinsyou'd think that people wouldn't target well intentioned projects22:36
popeypeople are dicks22:37
daftykinsit'd be like trying to trash the computers of charities22:37
mapps  8 compromised freenode boxes? how did they fiund out and what were they doiing on the compromised machines22:37
daftykinsalterned binaries iirc22:37
daftykins*altered22:37
mappsoh22:38
mappsany idea to do what tho22:38
daftykinsit was in an announcement22:38
daftykinschristel would know :)22:39
mappsthanks22:39
daftykinstbh i didn't even care enough to change my nickserv password XD22:39
christelwell, we're not quite sure what they were doing ... from what we can tell they've been there for a while22:39
mappsoh22:40
mappsso not running servers or mining or what not22:40
christeldaftykins: the machine on which services live wasn't actually compromised so we're semi-confident that the nickserv database is "safe" -- but we're concerned that they may have been sniffing irc traffic (for some time)22:40
daftykinschristel: oh that's handy news, thanks. would a SASL auth user have been alright?22:41
christelthey've been fairly good at tidying up after themselves, disabling things like etckeeper which would have notified us of their presence had we realised sooner22:41
popeyworrying if they'd been sniffing traffic22:41
christelbut in brief they planted a kernel module which uses netfilter to register a hook and observe tcp packets looking for a magic value22:42
christelpopey: yeah, that is the bit we fear22:42
mappsi see22:42
mappsetckeeper hm il have to google..never heard of ythat22:42
mapps:)22:42
christeladded a usermode binary which removes specific files and a usermode companion to the kernel module which was handily saved to the system as /bin/dh -- presumably so as to make us assume it was the debhelper22:43
popeyugh22:43
christelthey also left behind the shell script that installed the files ... but beyond this they have been clearing things up rather well, logs are tidy, etc.22:44
daftykins:S22:44
christelthe annoying thing is that there are no common anomalities between the servers to point at a single software package or misconfiguration22:45
christel(bar the ircd, but two of the affected boxes were non-ircd boxes)22:45
christelcommonalities*22:45
christelso we're currently at the trying to work out whether we're looking at exploitable software flaw in a standard build component, exploitable software flaw in the ircd stack, malicious staff member, malicious sponsor or compromised management channel -- not the loveliest place to be atm :)22:47
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daftykinschristel: erk, pointed fingers everywhere huh?22:48
christelnot so much pointed fingers as trying to be real cold and clinical about the fact that we might not have mitigated the attack vector, whatever it may turn out to be :/22:49
christelbut hey, hopefully we'll figure it out, right now it is making us all grey at a rapid phase :/22:51
christelpace*22:51
christelgoodness22:51
christel(see, it has completely broken me!)22:52
daftykinsheh dw, i know that feeling22:52
daftykinsit's been an odd couple of weeks for me22:52
daftykinsso the server count is down at the moment - and not worth setting up replacements because they could be attacked in the same way? :/22:52
christelwell, we have no reason to think they would -- we're slowly re-adding but making sure we've got decent images of * for further forensics before we reimage22:53
christel:)22:54
daftykinsah-har22:55
diddledanwow, I turn my back for 5 seconds and y'all start talking till the cows come home22:59
diddledan56 messages missed!23:00
daftykins:D23:00
diddledanyey for maplins23:01
diddledanI just ordered some dohickies23:01
diddledan(where do and hickie refer to UHF tv-antenna cable)23:01
diddledanI'm gonna re-wire my hdhomerun23:02
daftykinsbut nothing of worth comes over broadcast, sir23:02
diddledantrue23:02
diddledannetflix is where it's at23:02
diddledanor not-so-kosher-winky-winky-nudgie-nudgie-downloaded-content23:03
diddledanoh my, I mentioned winky in a family friendly channel :-p23:03
daftykinssince i have a reputation i hope you have one too ;)23:04
* directhex moos. moo!23:06
diddledanmoomoo23:06
shaunodan?  a reputation?  noooo23:06
diddledan:-p23:06
diddledanmorning, shauno23:06
shaunohowdy23:07
diddledandamn, my UGT actually managed to mesh with real timezones23:08
shaunohow so?23:09
diddledanit really is morning23:10
shaunono it's not?23:10
diddledantis too23:10
diddledan00:10 <-- 10 minutes into morning23:10
shaunomorning has a very strict definition.  it's the period between shaun waking up, and finishing his second cup of coffee23:11
daftykins:D23:11
diddledanisn't that G23:11
diddledanGrumpy Irishman Time?23:12
daftykinsi need to be to bed, i have to wake up in 8hrs to go to some appointment about my broken bones23:12
diddledanaka GIT23:12
shaunooi, I ain't irish23:12
diddledandon't tell the natives that23:12
shaunoalmost related but not at all.  someone here has apparently decided that the irish equivalent of BST is 'naturally' IST.  So far as to add IST to our product23:13
shaunowhich is greatly confusing India, who actually use IST23:13
diddledanthey'll lynch you before dawn - morning in GIT time23:13
diddledanlmao23:13
diddledanonly an irishlander23:13
shaunoI find the proper designations even funny.  'western european time'.  and 'western european summertime'.  so WET and WEST.  which pretty much sums up the situation.23:14
diddledanoh dear23:14
diddledanthat's funny!23:14
daftykinscan't believe it's hitting 23 deg tomorrow23:17
dogmatic69anyone know of 'digital pen' type things that work on ubuntu?23:40
diddledandogmatic69: the wacom stuff usually works IIRC23:53
diddledandogmatic69: I don't know about other vendors tho23:53

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