[00:01] <diddledan> and I'm back
[00:01] <daftykins> :(
[00:01] <daftykins> for reference btw channel, any events in my life i share are not for reproducing elsewhere in other channels.
[00:02] <diddledan> :-(
[00:03] <daftykins> there's far too much drama on this network at times
[00:04] <diddledan> I'm not sure my memory is good enough to be able to spill about folk in here :-p
[00:04] <daftykins> hehe
[00:04] <diddledan> if it were I'm sure I'd at least get the names wrong
[00:05] <daftykins> it wasn't particularly here in this case
[00:05] <daftykins> sadly the -ops thought it was ok to share in my recent past
[00:05] <diddledan> grr
[00:08] <daftykins> then someone PM'd me to discuss... and reproduced that to them
[00:08] <daftykins> without warning
[00:19] <ali1234> you know this channel is logged right?
[00:19] <diddledan> this looks freaky: http://store.steampowered.com/app/246070/?snr=1_237_151__103
[00:20] <daftykins> ali1234: yep
[00:21] <daftykins> ali1234: are you referring to my discussion now, or assuming they got the info via another means?
[00:21] <daftykins> 'cause it's not, for the latter
[00:26] <ali1234> just saying, anyone can grep the logs if they feel like causing trouble
[00:26] <daftykins> so you meant the first option? :)
[00:27] <ali1234> both
[07:42] <SuperMatt> popey: how do you think canonical staff would respond to travelling to north london for a release party at a pub with Unicorn in its name?
[07:43] <DJones> Morning all
[07:43] <knightwise> morning !
[08:21] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:22] <Myrtti> I urgently need someone to tell me I shouldn't put a bid on a Fiskars Fuse Die cutting and letterpress machine
[08:22] <Myrtti> my rationality is rapidly dwindling
[08:24] <davmor2> Myrtti: put in a bid but really, really low and don't bid on it again, that way you either get a massive bargain or you get out bid,  just don't look at it again till the auction is over
[08:29] <Myrtti> ah, it actually looks like it's cheaper in Amazon than getting it cheap from US, even when eBay tries to tell me there's no extra cost involved
[08:29] <Myrtti> ah, misread. nevermind.
[08:29] <Myrtti> so Amazon it would be
[08:41] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:03] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Working Parents Day! :-D
[09:04] <brobostigon> morning JamesTait
[09:05] <JamesTait> brobostigon, o/
[09:10] <awilkins> Tomorrow ; Malfunctioning Parents Day
[09:40] <popey> SuperMatt: well, probably, however a large chunk of the company will not be around.
[10:02]  * popey wonders if czajkowski is at the library https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/2gipwn/somebody_left_their_dog_in_the_library_i_feel/
[10:05] <czajkowski> popey: LOL
[10:05] <czajkowski> Bash isn't buding from the floor passed out from todays 2 mile walk uphill
[10:10] <popey> MartijnV1S: is this near you? if so, please go there, buy all of it and send it to me. https://plus.google.com/u/0/116565300061740734711/posts/dKQoVDCLZV4
[10:11] <davmor2> JamesTait: is that not an oxymoron
[10:11] <JamesTait> davmor2, who are you calling a moron? :-P
[10:18] <diddledan> moron alert: morning everyone
[10:24] <davmor2> diddledan: man that's harsh calling yourself a moron as you enter a room ;)
[10:24] <davmor2> JamesTait: You obviously :p
[10:24] <diddledan> well we all know it
[10:24] <diddledan> :-p
[10:28] <JamesTait> Can you feel the love?
[10:29]  * diddledan refrains from comment
[10:30] <SuperMatt> I can feel the love
[10:30] <SuperMatt> but that's because you put my hands in your pants
[10:30] <diddledan> and that's why I refrained
[10:48] <czajkowski> JamesTait: http://youtu.be/aF4CWCXirZ8
[10:55] <diddledan> czajkowski: you realise that's akin to japanese animated pr0n for lions?
[10:55] <czajkowski> only in your twisted noggin tis disney
[10:56] <diddledan> :-p
[10:59] <diddledan> czajkowski: sshh, don't tell anyone, because it might diminish my manliness, but Disney rocks!
[11:00] <Laney> Disnep
[11:01] <czajkowski> Laney: ello there you coming to oggcamp?
[11:02] <Laney> As a kid I read the 'y' in their logo as a 'p'
[11:02] <Laney> stuck with me
[11:02] <Laney> sup czajkowski, dunno, when/where?
[11:03] <Laney> ooooh posh
[11:03] <Laney> but no probably not
[11:03] <czajkowski> 4/5 october oxford
[11:49]  * davmor2 tip-toes up behind czajkowski and shouts BOO!
[11:49] <diddledan> eek, that even scared me
[11:52] <czajkowski> davmor2: ello sunshine
[11:52] <davmor2> diddledan: why are you at czajkowski 's?
[12:44] <popey> Turns out pot noodles can be greatly improved via the addition of sriracha
[12:55] <awilkins> So can eggy bread with salad
[12:56]  * awilkins has just acquired a bottle of Sriracha from an Asian food shop for much less cash than the prices on Amazon
[12:56] <awilkins> I like that the small bottle is a pound of sauce.
[13:40] <diddledan> I fixed a bug and I like it
[13:41]  * diddledan sings
[14:14] <MartijnV1S> popey: I don't know where that is
[14:14] <diddledan> o_O
[14:59] <dutchie> czajkowski: i'm going to oggcamp!
[14:59] <popey> yay
[14:59] <dutchie> :)
[14:59] <dutchie> *and* i get a free floor to sleep on from my postgrad friends
[15:01] <davmor2> I'm not :(  I wanted to this year too being as the Mother in law was holding us back this year.  Then the council decided it would be a good time to gut our property and re do the kitchen, bathroom, toilet, plumbing and electrics :(
[15:07] <Laney> at once?
[15:07] <davmor2> Laney: over 4 weeks
[15:07] <Laney> extreme
[15:08] <davmor2> Laney: indeed one team follows another
[15:41] <NET||abuse> hi guys, been looking for an app i used some time ago, Giver, but i don't see a 14.04 or recent version?
[15:42] <NET||abuse> any alternate projects worth looking into for similar functionality?
[15:44] <dutchie> what functionality is that? "Giver" is not the easiest name to do a web search for
[15:44] <popey> it lets you share files over a network easily
[15:45] <popey> was a novell hackfest project iirc
[15:45] <dutchie> ah i think i remember it now actually
[15:45] <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP3uxPsOUms
[15:45] <dutchie> i tend to just use scp/rsync
[15:47] <popey> i think this services a different need
[15:48] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[15:48] <bigcalm> Is there a good application that I can install so that I can then right click on a file and encrypt it with GPG for a specified public key?
[16:02] <awilkins> You can add a script to the scripts folder to do this, no?
[16:02] <awilkins> ~/.local/share/nautilus/scripts
[16:02] <awilkins> Shell script, use   "$@" for parameter, boom
[16:06] <popey> directhex: do you know of a way to unpack a xap file?
[16:06] <directhex> un... unzip?
[16:07] <popey> nope
[16:07] <popey> i think it's encrypted
[16:07] <popey> rot13 or something ☻
[16:09] <popey> looks like they're DRM signed.
[16:59] <MarkDude> popey, you have a goto guide or two for setting up Plex? Its on my todo list :)
[17:05] <daftykins> XBMC!
[17:09] <bigcalm> Kodi?
[17:10] <bigcalm> (mentioned a bit in recent uupc)
[17:10]  * bigcalm dog walks
[17:12] <daftykins> it's a terrible name
[17:13] <daftykins> and it's only Kodi to me once that version goes final (:
[17:13]  * MarkDude is not so much of a fan with most things with X in it
[17:14] <MarkDude> KNOW its its a great project, but its failed me with a record that NOTHING else comes close to :(
[17:14] <MarkDude> Almost as much as Windows does
[17:14] <daftykins> well that makes no sense.
[17:15] <MarkDude> If I have old hardware, Puppy Linux tends to be more stable
[17:15]  * MarkDude is a part of groups that install XFCE, its just not going in my house :)
[17:15] <MarkDude> Nothing wrong with it. Just not my cup of tea
[17:18] <daftykins> i can't really follow your conversation, you flitted on each and every line
[17:18] <MarkDude> Looking for Plex brilliance from popey or others
[17:18] <MarkDude> Using Ubuntu
[17:19]  * MarkDude has some really strong opinions on XFCE, realized a while ago- that I should keep that to myself
[17:20] <MarkDude> My not wanting to use it is based upon setting up classrooms, people, computers- and having it fail- ONLY when folks cant fix it. Or dying in way it cant be fixed from elsewhere
[17:21] <popey> yo
[17:21] <MarkDude> FOSS is about choice. /me is part of another project, most of which know I have been using Ubuntu (instead of my Distro)
[17:22] <popey> yeah, i put a chromecast in the lounge, and installed plex media server on my home server.
[17:22] <popey> I eneded up paying for the phone app to control it.
[17:22] <MarkDude> it just work (trademarked)
[17:22] <popey> there's a guide I followed
[17:22] <MarkDude> Yep - and paying for phoneapp makes sense
[17:22] <popey> the plex server runs on my home server full of content
[17:22] <popey> it does indeed Just Work ™
[17:22]  * MarkDude actually bought iMovie, so I could just make movies
[17:23] <MarkDude> Ty popey - you saved me hella time
[17:23] <MarkDude> And no insult meant to XCFE, its an awesome project that does great stuff :)
[17:23] <popey> lemme see if i can find the guide
[17:23] <popey> i think you mean XBMC ☻
[17:24] <MarkDude> Cool- if not- send itmy way
[17:24] <MarkDude> no- /me says bad things about XFCE
[17:24] <MarkDude> XMBC - not quite the volume of not-likey-ness
[17:24] <MarkDude> \IMO
[17:25] <popey> http://allaboutchromecast.com/how-to-use-plex-media-server-to-stream-local-media-to-chromecast-from-your-pc/ boom
[17:25] <popey> i think thats the one
[17:25] <MarkDude> Perfect- Chromecast is on this months todo list :)
[17:26] <popey> hehe
[17:26] <popey> i have 3 now
[17:26] <popey> i can't buy one of anything
[17:27] <MarkDude> True. Im needing 2 more already
[17:28] <MarkDude> popey, you are using regular computer? Im not sure current Pi is quick enough?
[17:32] <Myrtti> plex + chromecast = ♥
[17:33] <Myrtti> we've got the plex server on our nas
[17:39]  * MarkDude is in process of new installs, and shifting machines. Will be nice to have media in one place, as opposed to maybe 20 places- lol
[17:39]  * MarkDude needs to go see a man about a dog....
[17:39] <MarkDude> :D
[17:43] <diddledan> Myrtti: is that a synology?
[17:44] <Myrtti> Netgear ReadyNAS
[17:44] <diddledan> we're using a synology at work. they're ok, but I don't really like the "desktop" style of web interface
[17:53] <daftykins> they're pretty functional though
[17:54] <daftykins> but yeah, a 'lite' edition would be welcome
[17:54] <directhex> i discovered how bad windows 8 is last night
[17:54] <directhex> you can't add a NAS to your music or video libraries, for use by the default video/music apps.
[17:54] <directhex> unless the NAS runs Windows Home Server
[17:54] <daftykins> lol
[17:55] <daftykins> people actually use libraries? o0
[17:56] <directhex> you can't display metadata of files that aren't in a library ^_^
[17:57] <daftykins> properties?
[17:58] <diddledan> can someone tell me what's unique about this? https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pep-pretty-easy-privacy
[17:59] <diddledan> besides completely reinventing the wheel I mean
[17:59] <diddledan> why should I use that over something like gpg?
[18:16] <diddledan> the first proper trailer for "the hunger games: mockingjay part1" is out: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi616541977/
[18:16] <diddledan> it looks sweet
[18:16] <diddledan> \o/ for teen fiction
[18:58] <mapps> hmm
[18:58] <diddledan> hmm
[19:01] <mapps> just wondering what to do
[19:08] <davmor2> mapps: you still on pain killers etc?
[19:08] <mapps> no
[19:08] <mapps> i started watching cold in july
[19:08] <mapps> but just cba
[19:09] <mapps> stupid hayfevers making me sneeze loads
[19:10] <mapps> #
[19:43] <MartijnV1S> http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2014/09/16/le-commitstrip-test/
[22:07]  * dutchie feels sorry for the guy on ml who is currently being buried under dozens of lines of grep/sed/awk that he does not appear to even slightly understand
[22:08] <dutchie> turning into a code golf competition
[22:11] <diddledan> dutchie: yeah I saw that
[22:16] <daftykins> ml?
[22:17] <dutchie> mailing list
[22:17] <dutchie> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2014-September/037891.html
[22:28] <daftykins> ty sir
[22:29] <daftykins> wow, that's nasty
[22:30] <daftykins> i'd hate to have a machine compromised
[22:34] <christel> it sucks big time
[22:35] <daftykins> yarr? not necessarily knowing the source would probably be really aggravating
[22:35] <daftykins> in fact this is a good wake up call to remind me to do some backup :D
[22:36] <christel> tell me about it ... we're in the midst of forensics on the eight compromised freenode boxes
[22:36] <christel> with absolutely NO clue as to the ingress point
[22:36] <daftykins> :/
[22:36] <daftykins> that was definitely a nasty one
[22:36] <daftykins> you'd think that people wouldn't target well intentioned projects
[22:37] <popey> people are dicks
[22:37] <daftykins> it'd be like trying to trash the computers of charities
[22:37] <mapps>   8 compromised freenode boxes? how did they fiund out and what were they doiing on the compromised machines
[22:37] <daftykins> alterned binaries iirc
[22:37] <daftykins> *altered
[22:38] <mapps> oh
[22:38] <mapps> any idea to do what tho
[22:38] <daftykins> it was in an announcement
[22:39] <daftykins> christel would know :)
[22:39] <mapps> thanks
[22:39] <daftykins> tbh i didn't even care enough to change my nickserv password XD
[22:39] <christel> well, we're not quite sure what they were doing ... from what we can tell they've been there for a while
[22:40] <mapps> oh
[22:40] <mapps> so not running servers or mining or what not
[22:40] <christel> daftykins: the machine on which services live wasn't actually compromised so we're semi-confident that the nickserv database is "safe" -- but we're concerned that they may have been sniffing irc traffic (for some time)
[22:41] <daftykins> christel: oh that's handy news, thanks. would a SASL auth user have been alright?
[22:41] <christel> they've been fairly good at tidying up after themselves, disabling things like etckeeper which would have notified us of their presence had we realised sooner
[22:41] <popey> worrying if they'd been sniffing traffic
[22:42] <christel> but in brief they planted a kernel module which uses netfilter to register a hook and observe tcp packets looking for a magic value
[22:42] <christel> popey: yeah, that is the bit we fear
[22:42] <mapps> i see
[22:42] <mapps> etckeeper hm il have to google..never heard of ythat
[22:42] <mapps> :)
[22:43] <christel> added a usermode binary which removes specific files and a usermode companion to the kernel module which was handily saved to the system as /bin/dh -- presumably so as to make us assume it was the debhelper
[22:43] <popey> ugh
[22:44] <christel> they also left behind the shell script that installed the files ... but beyond this they have been clearing things up rather well, logs are tidy, etc.
[22:44] <daftykins> :S
[22:45] <christel> the annoying thing is that there are no common anomalities between the servers to point at a single software package or misconfiguration
[22:45] <christel> (bar the ircd, but two of the affected boxes were non-ircd boxes)
[22:45] <christel> commonalities*
[22:47] <christel> so we're currently at the trying to work out whether we're looking at exploitable software flaw in a standard build component, exploitable software flaw in the ircd stack, malicious staff member, malicious sponsor or compromised management channel -- not the loveliest place to be atm :)
[22:48] <daftykins> christel: erk, pointed fingers everywhere huh?
[22:49] <christel> not so much pointed fingers as trying to be real cold and clinical about the fact that we might not have mitigated the attack vector, whatever it may turn out to be :/
[22:51] <christel> but hey, hopefully we'll figure it out, right now it is making us all grey at a rapid phase :/
[22:51] <christel> pace*
[22:51] <christel> goodness
[22:52] <christel> (see, it has completely broken me!)
[22:52] <daftykins> heh dw, i know that feeling
[22:52] <daftykins> it's been an odd couple of weeks for me
[22:52] <daftykins> so the server count is down at the moment - and not worth setting up replacements because they could be attacked in the same way? :/
[22:53] <christel> well, we have no reason to think they would -- we're slowly re-adding but making sure we've got decent images of * for further forensics before we reimage
[22:54] <christel> :)
[22:55] <daftykins> ah-har
[22:59] <diddledan> wow, I turn my back for 5 seconds and y'all start talking till the cows come home
[23:00] <diddledan> 56 messages missed!
[23:00] <daftykins> :D
[23:01] <diddledan> yey for maplins
[23:01] <diddledan> I just ordered some dohickies
[23:01] <diddledan> (where do and hickie refer to UHF tv-antenna cable)
[23:02] <diddledan> I'm gonna re-wire my hdhomerun
[23:02] <daftykins> but nothing of worth comes over broadcast, sir
[23:02] <diddledan> true
[23:02] <diddledan> netflix is where it's at
[23:03] <diddledan> or not-so-kosher-winky-winky-nudgie-nudgie-downloaded-content
[23:03] <diddledan> oh my, I mentioned winky in a family friendly channel :-p
[23:04] <daftykins> since i have a reputation i hope you have one too ;)
[23:06]  * directhex moos. moo!
[23:06] <diddledan> moomoo
[23:06] <shauno> dan?  a reputation?  noooo
[23:06] <diddledan> :-p
[23:06] <diddledan> morning, shauno
[23:07] <shauno> howdy
[23:08] <diddledan> damn, my UGT actually managed to mesh with real timezones
[23:09] <shauno> how so?
[23:10] <diddledan> it really is morning
[23:10] <shauno> no it's not?
[23:10] <diddledan> tis too
[23:10] <diddledan> 00:10 <-- 10 minutes into morning
[23:11] <shauno> morning has a very strict definition.  it's the period between shaun waking up, and finishing his second cup of coffee
[23:11] <daftykins> :D
[23:11] <diddledan> isn't that G
[23:12] <diddledan> Grumpy Irishman Time?
[23:12] <daftykins> i need to be to bed, i have to wake up in 8hrs to go to some appointment about my broken bones
[23:12] <diddledan> aka GIT
[23:12] <shauno> oi, I ain't irish
[23:12] <diddledan> don't tell the natives that
[23:13] <shauno> almost related but not at all.  someone here has apparently decided that the irish equivalent of BST is 'naturally' IST.  So far as to add IST to our product
[23:13] <shauno> which is greatly confusing India, who actually use IST
[23:13] <diddledan> they'll lynch you before dawn - morning in GIT time
[23:13] <diddledan> lmao
[23:13] <diddledan> only an irishlander
[23:14] <shauno> I find the proper designations even funny.  'western european time'.  and 'western european summertime'.  so WET and WEST.  which pretty much sums up the situation.
[23:14] <diddledan> oh dear
[23:14] <diddledan> that's funny!
[23:17] <daftykins> can't believe it's hitting 23 deg tomorrow
[23:40] <dogmatic69> anyone know of 'digital pen' type things that work on ubuntu?
[23:53] <diddledan> dogmatic69: the wacom stuff usually works IIRC
[23:53] <diddledan> dogmatic69: I don't know about other vendors tho