[00:24] <bluesabre> brainwash: bug marked fixed
[00:24] <bluesabre> the ppa sounds like its missing our AccountsService patch
[00:24] <bluesabre> Unit193: yup, now I can send my next request(s)
[00:25] <bluesabre> Unit193: probably just going to merge the debian xfpm
[00:25] <bluesabre> with the version number jump, need to poke -release anyway
[00:30] <Unit193> I'm sure you know this release supports 0.7.0 too.
[00:30] <bluesabre> indeed
[00:30] <bluesabre> :)
[02:01] <bluesabre> gathering a list of xfce packages we cannot directly upload, am I missing anything? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8354635/
[02:09] <bluesabre> xfpm pushed to utopic
[02:24] <bluesabre> ochosi, forestpiskie, feel free to comment on #ubuntu-release
[02:28] <skellat> bluesabre: The points being brought up by ScottK should have been brought up *months* ago 
[02:28] <skellat> GNOME should've talked to us about things
[02:28] <skellat> Going off wildcat with Jackson along for the ride is not playing nice socially
[02:34] <bluesabre> thanks for commenting skellat
[02:34] <skellat> bluesabre: You know, I think I'm the only one in Xubuntu Team who doesn't actually have a defined role
[02:35] <bluesabre> have one in mind? :)
[02:36] <skellat> Don't know.  There are rumblings from work about recall.  I have to wait to see how this week plays out.
[02:37] <bluesabre> Seems like, from your various g+ posts, that your work is... unpredictable
[02:38] <Unit193> skellat: What are mica.hg, lder.an, Nos.kcaj, and jj.frv8's roles?
[02:39] <bluesabre> the first is a DMB, so there's that
[02:39] <Unit193> bluesabre: Does that count in Xubuntu?
[02:39] <bluesabre> not specifically :)
[02:39] <skellat> The first is still DMB and thereby owns the xubuntu-dev group, the second is meeting.ology wrangler, the third does packaging, and the fourth is emeritus
[02:49] <skellat> virtualbox is in the list so multiverse is probably included as "unsupported"
[08:45] <brainwash> bluesabre: but it's the package from the ubuntu repo
[08:46] <brainwash> bluesabre: xfdesktop4
[08:47] <brainwash> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11165
[08:47] <brainwash> any idea what else could be broken here?
[08:50] <ochosi> morning everyone
[08:50] <ochosi> i guess there's lots and lots of backlog
[08:51] <ochosi> if any of you have a news-digest in mind for me, that'd be a great time-saver :)
[08:57] <elfy> a few bugs, a few uploads, a few updates and someone expecting everyone to bend over backwards for them - but you know about the last one :)
[11:02] <bluesabre> brainwash: aha, never backported our fix http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/x/xfdesktop4/xfdesktop4_4.11.8-0ubuntu1/changelog http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/x/xfdesktop4/xfdesktop4_4.11.6-1ubuntu1/changelog 
[11:02] <bluesabre> debian/patches/xubuntu_set-accountsservice-user-bg.patch: update
[11:02] <bluesabre>     patch to only update on first workspace filename change (LP: #1318307)
[11:02] <bluesabre> we can do that when we push 4.11.8 to trusty
[11:03] <bluesabre> oh wait, that might not be it
[11:03] <brainwash> sure, but how does this patch help?
[11:03] <bluesabre> the problem might be that he is using a personal wallpaper, right?
[11:04] <bluesabre> the login bg is only updated if it is system-readable, if I recall
[11:06] <brainwash> maybe
[11:06] <brainwash> but why would adding a PPA break this?
[11:08] <brainwash> sadly I have no clue
[11:09] <brainwash> on top of that, it's not an upstream bug :/
[11:09] <bluesabre> it probably didn't... he clearly changed his background after adding the ppa, and we don't have a huge selection, so it is likely its something in his home folder
[11:10] <bluesabre> xubuntu default wp -> xubuntu rocks -> ppa -> /home/user/furry-kittens.jpg
[11:12] <bluesabre> just confirm the location of the file he is selecting, and that will probably reveal itself
[11:36] <bluesabre> work time, bbl
[11:38] <elfy> brainwash bluesabre "the login bg is only updated if it is system-readable" that'd be why it works for me then - I copy bg's into /usr/blah
[11:39] <elfy> commenting
[12:03] <brainwash> elfy: thanks for commenting
[12:04] <brainwash> I thought that accountsservice would just create a copy of the wallpaper to prevent permission issues
[12:05] <brainwash> it works like this for profile pictures
[12:17] <bluesabre> brainwash: accountsservice updates the path to the selected wallpaper instead of copying.  So it has to be readable by the lightdm user, permissions 644 or higher
[12:17] <bluesabre> gotta run, bbl
[15:42] <ochosi> elfy: heh, right, thanks :)
[15:42] <ochosi> had a lot to catch up with today but i'll hopefully be around more tomorrow and tday
[15:50] <elfy> ochosi: :)
[19:34] <Unit193> bluesabre: Reminder, 'systemd-services' only exists as a virtual package.
[19:36] <Unit193> (Hopefully that's helpful.) Updated ppa version numbering.
[20:14] <Noskcaj> skellat, I think my job in xubuntu is actually "Packaging everything that unit, sean, and corsac don't want to"
[20:15] <skellat> :-)
[20:15] <skellat> That works
[20:15] <Unit193> Heh, you just get to some of them first.
[20:15] <Unit193> (That and we pretend we don't see them. :P )
[20:15] <Noskcaj> :)
[20:16] <Noskcaj> problem ricotz just noticed "it seems tumbler is using the wrong thumbails folders which break the native retrieval of the thumbnail-path with gio"
[20:16] <Unit193> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10613
[20:16] <Noskcaj> thanks
[20:17] <Unit193> Sure.
[20:17] <Unit193> skellat: I'd presume you saw there was a new apt-offline?
[20:17] <elfy> hi skellat Noskcaj 
[20:17] <Noskcaj> hey elfy 
[20:17] <skellat> Unit193: 5 W's?
[20:18] <Unit193> 1.5
[20:18] <skellat> Oooh
[20:18] <skellat> Did it tumble into testing yet?
[20:18] <Unit193> 0 of 5.
[20:18] <skellat> Ah
[20:19]  * skellat has split attention trying to do online bill payments as well as watch IRC and ponder what is happening in the House of Representatives over his employing agency having funding past October 1st.
[20:21] <skellat> Unit193: Nothing too major in changelog other than the Debian BTS module
[20:21] <Unit193> Yep.
[20:21] <skellat> I wonder if there would be any interest in adding support for LP to that mix
[20:21] <Unit193> What for?
[20:33] <skellat> Download LP bugs lists
[23:44] <bluesabre> Unit193: does this seem like a reasonable request? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8361317/
[23:45] <bluesabre> (including a mention that these go to ~xubuntu-uploaders and not myself)
[23:47] <Unit193> bluesabre: This is for you rather than adding to the packageset?  Also, not sure if you want to put it in there or not, but still not sure I get the reasoning if it's not seeded or part of Xubuntu.
[23:47] <bluesabre> I think packageset is auto-generated based on what we ship
[23:48] <Unit193> Something like that, yeah.
[23:48] <bluesabre> The benefit is being able to fix issues with xfce packages that we don't ship, but would need maintenance
[23:49]  * Unit193 shrugs.
[23:49] <knome> well, yeah
[23:49] <knome> i guess a good question would be:
[23:49] <knome> how many of those packages are maintained upstream?
[23:49] <Unit193> Properly in Debian or Xfce. :P
[23:49] <bluesabre> well, its xfce, so probably not many :)
[23:51] <bluesabre> this request is mainly coming from a few packages affected by the gdmflexiserver bug, and finding a sponsor for a package that affects nobody can be a hassle
[23:52] <bluesabre> (ofc, wasting time on a bug that doesn't affect our install is another issue altogether)
[23:52] <Unit193> It's OK, we know you get bored too. ;)
[23:53] <bluesabre> not often, brainwash is always bugging me with bugs
[23:53] <bluesabre> :D
[23:54] <Unit193> Thought about tossing the gmb link at him, those mostly seem dead.