| Gassho | how do i download local copies of ALL the documentation? | 01:09 |
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| holstein | Gassho: not sure.. there are wikis that you can download as you like | 01:43 |
| holstein | the man pages are already there.. | 01:43 |
| Gassho | ok | 01:46 |
| Gassho | what about source code *lustlustlust* 8) | 01:47 |
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| urielvigilant | urielvigilant;My english is not soo has ai whisheD"! I've been in the recent past to speak with a psychic who says that Ubuntu or "# Linux" does not quite understand what the spirit that knows the future and the past said that someone buying via the "Internet" forever a "day" and the "current Justice" #Google will become a brand of access to pcs because the new generation of internet to come. | 04:43 |
| urielvigilant | urielvigilantThat day will be the end for us! And the beginning of a new era of slavery for them the future generation "They will just feel that are evolving and will accept like lambs"; # Please record and reproduce forever this "prediction of a psychic" # would be "" | 04:43 |
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| urielvigilant | IAm only saiying the true | 04:51 |
| urielvigilant | ! | 04:52 |
| urielvigilant | Please hep US , EU , Linux Vigilants | 04:52 |
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| BQ | hi how apt-get update & apt-get upgrade work on lubuntu? it is for lubuntu only or whole ubuntu thing? | 11:13 |
| BQ | i just tested run lubuntu, it is indeed a lot faster than ubuntu. it reminds me a lot of old memory. | 11:16 |
| zota_ | repositories are the same | 11:22 |
| zota_ | so if you want to install chromium, it will be downloaded from ubuntu repo | 11:23 |
| BQ | zota_: i mean if I do apt-get update & apt-get upgrade, does lubuntu just install what is needed or those boilerplate needed by ubuntu but not needed by lubuntu? | 11:25 |
| zota_ | i dont know | 11:26 |
| zota_ | BQ: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu | 11:27 |
| BQ | zota_: that is brieve | 11:34 |
| BQ | that is the panel for? | 11:34 |
| BQ | what is the panel for? at the bottom. | 11:36 |
| zota_ | where? | 11:36 |
| BQ | right after brower at the bottom | 11:37 |
| zota_ | click to figure it out:D | 11:37 |
| BQ | no idea | 11:39 |
| BQ | minimize all windows | 11:41 |
| BQ | the only issue is that there is no a decent terminal. | 11:41 |
| zota_ | i use LXTerminal | 11:42 |
| zota_ | thats default | 11:43 |
| zota_ | but you can install which one you want | 11:43 |
| BQ | xterm/uxterm is too small font. LXTerminal is also ugly. | 11:44 |
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| zota_ | how you mean "ugly"? :) | 11:45 |
| testdr | zota: i could verify the lxde-logout with right-click on desktop for menu and select there the entry für calculator - as a workaround, i have disabled the desktop-menu - i did not use it for programstarts, execept for openbox-settings. Maybe thats why i never noticed this type of crash before. | 11:48 |
| zota_ | testdr: yea, i just tried out | 11:48 |
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| zota_ | testdr: but we have a bugfix least | 11:49 |
| zota_ | just hard to find it:) | 11:49 |
| BQ | too much space at the top. better put File/Edit line on the first line or hide it totally. | 11:54 |
| BQ | also make it round at the four corners. | 11:54 |
| BQ | because you will spend most of time with terminal, it makes sense to put more effect to make it better. | 11:56 |
| zota_ | i spend so much time with terminal - aircrack-ng suite - and never had problem with lxterminal | 11:56 |
| zota_ | BQ: but, you can suggest features to devs, they're here in this channel | 11:58 |
| testdr | why has xterm a too small font? If i need bigger size, i press strg+right-mouse-button and select another font-size -- maybe huge | 11:59 |
| BQ | zota_: are you developer for aircrack-ng? | 12:13 |
| zota_ | nop | 12:14 |
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| thykka | hey | 12:49 |
| thykka | is there a way to set lxdm's wallpaper mode to tiling instead of stretch? | 12:49 |
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| zota | o/ | 14:47 |
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| Ahmuck | i'd like to disable the touchpad completely, how? | 15:47 |
| Ahmuck | before login | 15:47 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: i use a config for openbox.. | 15:51 |
| Ahmuck | openbox config manager on the lubuntu menu? | 15:52 |
| Ahmuck | is there a way i can mod a file in /etc? | 15:52 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: sure | 15:52 |
| Ahmuck | i did this to get numlock to come on all the time | 15:52 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: there are many ways to do that.. from solder to bios, to lxde, to openbox.. per user, system-wide | 15:53 |
| Ahmuck | but i did not see a file for the mouse (or did not look hard enough) | 15:53 |
| Ahmuck | nevermind | 15:53 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: sure.. theres no "break your hardware" button.. but, let me find a link for you | 15:53 |
| holstein | i think a simple "xinput" command that you can add to autostart would be the "easiest" | 15:53 |
| thykka | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#Completely_disabling_Touchpad | 15:53 |
| Ahmuck | i've tried autostart, it does not appear to work | 15:53 |
| Ahmuck | thykka, yes, i've tried that. it works but does not appear to work with autostart apps for some reason. i do have that bookmarked | 15:54 |
| Ahmuck | and no, there are no changes, it's a new installed system (unless you count appplication bar icons as changes) | 15:54 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: autostart works for me, but, there are steps i take.. first would be running the command manualy and testing it | 15:54 |
| Ahmuck | did that | 15:55 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: anyways, http://askubuntu.com/questions/65951/how-to-disable-the-touchpad looks like how i would start.. i would not use the PPA.. just the information above | 15:55 |
| Ahmuck | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#Completely_disabling_Touchpad | 15:55 |
| thykka | i bet you could also blacklist the driver | 15:55 |
| Ahmuck | this is what i've used that works | 15:55 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: cool.. enjoy! | 15:56 |
| holstein | thykka: hey, thats a good idea.. system-wide as well | 15:56 |
| Ahmuck | yes, but i can't get it to do it before login or after login unless i do it manually | 15:57 |
| Ahmuck | i've tried to use autostart in the menu entry "Default Applications for LXSession | 15:57 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: i create a bash script and run it from autostart | 15:57 |
| holstein | http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Autostart is a good place to add | 15:58 |
| Ahmuck | from the autostart directory | 15:58 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: i would troubleshoot for permissions issues.. if the comand is "sudo" for example | 15:59 |
| Ahmuck | the .config autostart directory only starts after login, no? | 15:59 |
| thykka | this is old, so it might not apply to 14.04, but there's bound to be an updated method too.. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2010-July/223786.html | 15:59 |
| Ahmuck | oh, i understand. the menu entry is only per user, not per system | 15:59 |
| holstein | blacklisting the driver would be "system-wide" | 15:59 |
| Ahmuck | i'm the only user, blacklisting the driver is a good choice. it's that or open the guts of the computer and pull the physical cable | 16:00 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: if you are the only user, then the user's autostart should work fine for you | 16:00 |
| thykka | ..unless you really REALLY need it disabled in login too | 16:01 |
| holstein | /etc/xdg/autostart should be systemwide autostart location you seek | 16:01 |
| Ahmuck | i really need it disable on logon. when i logon my hands are to large and the touchpad is to large and it keeps messing with my logon (drops down guest, etc) | 16:02 |
| thykka | actually.. it looks like /etc/modprobe.d/ is still there in 14.04, so that url's directions might actually work | 16:02 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: sure.. try one of the suggestions above for getting it disabled at login, friend.. /etc/xdg/autostart or blacklist driver | 16:02 |
| Ahmuck | /etc/xdg/autostart looks like what i want with a desktop entry | 16:02 |
| thykka | why do you need it disabled btw? | 16:05 |
| thykka | I'm asking because at least the synaptics driver allows for palm-detection, so you won't accidentally use the touchpad while typing | 16:05 |
| Ahmuck | i use an exteranal usb mouse | 16:05 |
| Ahmuck | i've never used a touchpad on a laptop | 16:06 |
| Ahmuck | don't know how | 16:06 |
| Ahmuck | i started with the peg in the center of the keyboard | 16:06 |
| Ahmuck | touchstick (?) | 16:06 |
| Ahmuck | on the early IBM laptops | 16:06 |
| Ahmuck | http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Bluetooth-Keyboard-with-TrackPoint-keyboard/3041485.aspx?cm_cat=GoogleBase&cm_ite=3041485&cm_pla=NA-NA-LVO_KB&cm_ven=ShoppingFeeds&ef_id=VBmxqgAABQIYtOh8:20140917160706:s&gclid=CIi82PnQ6MACFaTm7AodeEUANw | 16:07 |
| thykka | i recently found an abandoned laptop with one of those | 16:08 |
| thykka | still haven't fixed it up though.. needs a new battery at least | 16:08 |
| holstein | these days, its not worth putting a battery in hardware like that | 16:08 |
| thykka | it is, when you're living the cyberpunk utopia in your living room :P | 16:09 |
| holstein | at least here, you can get many of those chromebooks, new, for around $100US if you are looking all around.. a new laptop battery can be half that.. and the machine at the end of the process is not comparable.. | 16:09 |
| thykka | tbh, i was planning on fixing it and selling it for the price of the replacement components | 16:10 |
| Ahmuck | well, /etc/xdg/something/autostart/disable-synaptics-touchpad.desktop file works after login, but not before | 16:10 |
| Ahmuck | guess i'll deal with it | 16:10 |
| Ahmuck | stress level -3 points for today | 16:12 |
| thykka | i guess you could call the script from /etc/rc.local | 16:12 |
| holstein | or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM | 16:13 |
| Ahmuck | thanks for the link to lightdm. next step is to disable guest login and set root password | 16:18 |
| Ahmuck | :-p | 16:19 |
| Ahmuck | nobody jumped | 16:19 |
| Ahmuck | System provided configuration is stored in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/*.conf and is not user editable. - Is this true? | 16:22 |
| * Ahmuck used nano *.conf and appears editable | 16:22 | |
| Ahmuck | out, thanks again for /etc/xdg/something/autostart | 16:24 |
| thykka | Ahmuck, i think that means that the file gets overwritten by updates | 16:26 |
| thykka | along with any user modifications | 16:26 |
| Ahmuck | ah, makes sense | 16:27 |
| Ahmuck | my laptop has no sound after closing the lid and re-opening, logging back into | 18:10 |
| Ahmuck | this is one i would be willing to file a bug report for. | 18:11 |
| Ahmuck | as it may be an odd bug | 18:11 |
| holstein | i used to have an alsa reload shortcut on the desktop of one machine i own.. | 18:14 |
| Ahmuck | Error, you need to install an application to configure the sound (pavucontol, alsamixer ...) | 18:21 |
| holstein | alsamixer should be there | 18:21 |
| Ahmuck | however alsamixer is on the system as i can execute via cl | 18:21 |
| holstein | i like using pavucontrol, but, lubuntu doesnt ship with pulse | 18:21 |
| Ahmuck | but not through menu from systray icon | 18:21 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: there should be no menu entry for it | 18:22 |
| Ahmuck | "volume control settings" | 18:22 |
| holstein | right.. thats a GUI.. | 18:22 |
| holstein | alsamixer is a command line curses tool | 18:22 |
| Ahmuck | right click on volume control icon, select volume control settings | 18:22 |
| Ahmuck | on other pc it would open alsamixer | 18:22 |
| Ahmuck | did not test on this one | 18:22 |
| holstein | likely, its a gui for it.. not "alsamixer" | 18:23 |
| * Ahmuck thinks i need to move to different channel | 18:23 | |
| Ahmuck | *shrugs*, it would open a term with alsamixer | 18:23 |
| Ahmuck | bbl, need to read | 18:23 |
| wxl | Ahmuck: i know of no tool that comes standard in lubuntu that if you right click on it opens up alsamixer | 18:31 |
| wxl | i know other desktop environments provide such things but not lubuntu | 18:31 |
| Ahmuck | brb | 18:33 |
| Ahmuck | *shrugs*, worked before, not now | 18:36 |
| wxl | again, there is package out there (Forgot what it's called) that will do such a thing | 18:37 |
| wxl | you could see if there's a differencce in packages by doing `dpkg -l` on both machines and then `diff` the two | 18:38 |
| holstein | alsamixer should do what is needed | 18:38 |
| wxl | holstein: it does, but he wants his lxpanel indicator to open alsamixer when clicked | 18:38 |
| holstein | i would just make a shortcut, and put it wherever i want | 18:39 |
| wxl | holstein: he also has the impression one machine already does this and the other does not | 18:39 |
| holstein | yeah.. we'll just have to wait on some factual details.. | 18:39 |
| wxl | indeed | 18:40 |
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| * RedDeath Back | 18:44 | |
| Subroutine | mine does exactly what Ahmuck, describes. right click on volume indicator, volume control settings opens alsamixer in lxterminal | 18:44 |
| holstein | Ahmuck has stated some kind of panel configuration | 18:45 |
| wxl | Subroutine: what is the indicator called? | 18:45 |
| holstein | wxl: i agree with where i think you are going.. | 18:46 |
| Subroutine | wxl: volume control | 18:46 |
| wxl | Subroutine: and you can verify this in both the context menu where it says "<something> settings" as well as in the option for lxpanel where is lists all the indicators? | 18:46 |
| zota | wxl: i found an another bug:) | 18:47 |
| wxl | zota: congrats. file it :) | 18:47 |
| Ahmuck | holstein, wxl, works for me, sorry it doesn't work for you ;-) | 18:47 |
| Subroutine | wxl: yes | 18:48 |
| wxl | Ahmuck: i thought you said it didn't work. | 18:48 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: everything is find and dandy here.. i thought you were having an issue with it.. im glad its working as you need and expect.. enjoy | 18:48 |
| holstein | fine* | 18:48 |
| zota | wxl: accidentally i pulled out my wifi usb while its transmitting, and X got crashed | 18:48 |
| zota | wifi usb adapter | 18:48 |
| holstein | zota: is that a "bug" ? | 18:48 |
| wxl | zota: oooh that's fun. dmesg or syslog tell you anything about what specifically died? | 18:49 |
| wxl | holstein: well, one would hope it would complain at you, not crash the whole display server XD | 18:49 |
| Ahmuck | actually it's not. was on the old laptop. to be fair, it may have been a carry over from "upgrade". however i normally don't upgrade, usually fresh install every time | 18:49 |
| holstein | Ahmuck: thats what i suggest | 18:50 |
| Ahmuck | but prior to 14.04 it was always set a xterm for adjustment of alsa with alsamixer. | 18:50 |
| Ahmuck | bbl | 18:50 |
| zota | wxl: <info> (wlan0): device state change: disconnected -> unmanaged (reason 'removed') [30 10 36] | 18:59 |
| wxl | zota: that's doubtful to be your problem | 18:59 |
| zota | i cant find any x crach log | 19:03 |
| plome | hi. anyone using lubuntu to play roms on mame? I am looking for some information what is the best front-end to use | 19:14 |
| holstein | plome: i would just go upstream and see if you get more attention.. anything in main ubuntu or any of the flavors, or general debian/linux will bre relevant.. | 19:15 |
| holstein | be* | 19:15 |
| plome | ok thanks | 19:15 |
| holstein | i forget where i landed with that, but i just loaded a bunch up and went with the easy one | 19:15 |
| plome | i will go there, thx | 19:17 |
| plome | :) | 19:17 |
| BQ | how do i know which package is from restricted/multiverse, or not opensouced? | 21:14 |
| BQ | in my install | 21:15 |
| melodie | by using Synaptic | 21:19 |
| melodie | and using the relevant filers in the columns | 21:19 |
| melodie | check in the "menu > preferences" and see for one column to eventuelly add: "component" | 21:20 |
| testdr | BQ: you can use dpkg-query - in terminal like this: dpkg-query -W --showformat='${binary:Package} ${Section}\n' | 21:33 |
| testdr | BQ: its no smiley, its a : and directly followed by package | 21:33 |
| testdr | BQ: maybe check "man dpkg-query" for the names of the format-output-fields | 21:34 |
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| BQ | melodie: this is no horizontal scroll, cannot see info at the right. | 22:11 |
| melodie | BQ you don't scroll, you filter with the columns | 22:12 |
| BQ | melodie: cannot see the columns | 22:12 |
| melodie | there are columns in Synaptic | 22:13 |
| melodie | just look between the list of packages and the menus : those are the columns | 22:13 |
| BQ | melodie: i created filter. how to apply filter? | 22:24 |
| melodie | BQ let me see | 22:24 |
| melodie | have you added a column "components" in the Menu > Preferences menu? | 22:25 |
| melodie | "Menu > Configuration > Preferences" | 22:25 |
| BQ | testdr: dpkg-query -W --showformat='${binary:Package} ${Section} {Component}\n' does not show component. | 22:26 |
| melodie | BQ it's paste midnight here, so now we are going to hurry, ok? | 22:26 |
| melodie | don't do that | 22:26 |
| melodie | jsut what I just told you | 22:26 |
| melodie | "Menu > Configuration > Preferences" | 22:26 |
| melodie | in there you go to the tab "Columns and fonts" | 22:26 |
| melodie | then you tick "Component" | 22:27 |
| melodie | then you click to "Apply" and you close the windows | 22:27 |
| melodie | -s | 22:27 |
| melodie | window | 22:27 |
| melodie | then on top of the list of packages, you have : | 22:27 |
| melodie | S | | Package | Component | Installed version | Last version ... and so on | 22:28 |
| melodie | do you see that line? | 22:28 |
| melodie | if you see that line, just click on the word "Component" | 22:28 |
| BQ | yes i see component. but how to apply filter i just created. | 22:29 |
| melodie | this will group all installed packages by component, and then all you have left to do is scroll to the multiverse component | 22:29 |
| melodie | you don't use the filter you created, you do not need that | 22:29 |
| melodie | the filtering is done by gathering the components in the column : just read what I just told you | 22:29 |
| BQ | ok thanks. | 22:31 |
| melodie | :) | 22:31 |
| melodie | welcome | 22:31 |
| weld_ | testdr, hey, did you by chance find out something about the 'no session for pid xxx' error? | 22:43 |
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| testdr | weld_: no - i only could see the error-message about it starting the guest-session. But the guest-session then runs and i can only confirm that some configuration is wrong. I know to less about new version of lightdm. | 22:59 |
| weld_ | i actually haven't found anything to be broken, despite this message | 23:00 |
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