[01:09] how do i download local copies of ALL the documentation? [01:43] Gassho: not sure.. there are wikis that you can download as you like [01:43] the man pages are already there.. [01:46] ok [01:47] what about source code *lustlustlust* 8) === ikonia is now known as Guest83023 === RedDeath is now known as zz_RedDeath [04:43] urielvigilant ;My english is not soo has ai whisheD"! I've been in the recent past to speak with a psychic who says that Ubuntu or "# Linux" does not quite understand what the spirit that knows the future and the past said that someone buying via the "Internet" forever a "day" and the "current Justice" #Google will become a brand of access to pcs because the new generation of internet to come. [04:43] urielvigilant That day will be the end for us! And the beginning of a new era of slavery for them the future generation "They will just feel that are evolving and will accept like lambs"; # Please record and reproduce forever this "prediction of a psychic" # would be "" === Sachiru is now known as Guest36018 === Sachiru_ is now known as Sachiru [04:51] IAm only saiying the true [04:52] ! [04:52] Please hep US , EU , Linux Vigilants === Guest83023 is now known as ikonia [11:13] hi how apt-get update & apt-get upgrade work on lubuntu? it is for lubuntu only or whole ubuntu thing? [11:16] i just tested run lubuntu, it is indeed a lot faster than ubuntu. it reminds me a lot of old memory. [11:22] repositories are the same [11:23] so if you want to install chromium, it will be downloaded from ubuntu repo [11:25] zota_: i mean if I do apt-get update & apt-get upgrade, does lubuntu just install what is needed or those boilerplate needed by ubuntu but not needed by lubuntu? [11:26] i dont know [11:27] BQ: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu [11:34] zota_: that is brieve [11:34] that is the panel for? [11:36] what is the panel for? at the bottom. [11:36] where? [11:37] right after brower at the bottom [11:37] click to figure it out:D [11:39] no idea [11:41] minimize all windows [11:41] the only issue is that there is no a decent terminal. [11:42] i use LXTerminal [11:43] thats default [11:43] but you can install which one you want [11:44] xterm/uxterm is too small font. LXTerminal is also ugly. === jared_ is now known as jared [11:45] how you mean "ugly"? :) [11:48] zota: i could verify the lxde-logout with right-click on desktop for menu and select there the entry für calculator - as a workaround, i have disabled the desktop-menu - i did not use it for programstarts, execept for openbox-settings. Maybe thats why i never noticed this type of crash before. [11:48] testdr: yea, i just tried out === zz_RedDeath is now known as RedDeath [11:49] testdr: but we have a bugfix least [11:49] just hard to find it:) [11:54] too much space at the top. better put File/Edit line on the first line or hide it totally. [11:54] also make it round at the four corners. [11:56] because you will spend most of time with terminal, it makes sense to put more effect to make it better. [11:56] i spend so much time with terminal - aircrack-ng suite - and never had problem with lxterminal [11:58] BQ: but, you can suggest features to devs, they're here in this channel [11:59] why has xterm a too small font? If i need bigger size, i press strg+right-mouse-button and select another font-size -- maybe huge [12:13] zota_: are you developer for aircrack-ng? [12:14] nop === BQ_ is now known as BQ [12:49] hey [12:49] is there a way to set lxdm's wallpaper mode to tiling instead of stretch? === RedDeath is now known as zz_RedDeath [14:47] o/ === BQ_ is now known as BQ [15:47] i'd like to disable the touchpad completely, how? [15:47] before login [15:51] Ahmuck: i use a config for openbox.. [15:52] openbox config manager on the lubuntu menu? [15:52] is there a way i can mod a file in /etc? [15:52] Ahmuck: sure [15:52] i did this to get numlock to come on all the time [15:53] Ahmuck: there are many ways to do that.. from solder to bios, to lxde, to openbox.. per user, system-wide [15:53] but i did not see a file for the mouse (or did not look hard enough) [15:53] nevermind [15:53] Ahmuck: sure.. theres no "break your hardware" button.. but, let me find a link for you [15:53] i think a simple "xinput" command that you can add to autostart would be the "easiest" [15:53] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#Completely_disabling_Touchpad [15:53] i've tried autostart, it does not appear to work [15:54] thykka, yes, i've tried that. it works but does not appear to work with autostart apps for some reason. i do have that bookmarked [15:54] and no, there are no changes, it's a new installed system (unless you count appplication bar icons as changes) [15:54] Ahmuck: autostart works for me, but, there are steps i take.. first would be running the command manualy and testing it [15:55] did that [15:55] Ahmuck: anyways, http://askubuntu.com/questions/65951/how-to-disable-the-touchpad looks like how i would start.. i would not use the PPA.. just the information above [15:55] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#Completely_disabling_Touchpad [15:55] i bet you could also blacklist the driver [15:55] this is what i've used that works [15:56] Ahmuck: cool.. enjoy! [15:56] thykka: hey, thats a good idea.. system-wide as well [15:57] yes, but i can't get it to do it before login or after login unless i do it manually [15:57] i've tried to use autostart in the menu entry "Default Applications for LXSession [15:57] Ahmuck: i create a bash script and run it from autostart [15:58] http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Autostart is a good place to add [15:58] from the autostart directory [15:59] Ahmuck: i would troubleshoot for permissions issues.. if the comand is "sudo" for example [15:59] the .config autostart directory only starts after login, no? [15:59] this is old, so it might not apply to 14.04, but there's bound to be an updated method too.. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2010-July/223786.html [15:59] oh, i understand. the menu entry is only per user, not per system [15:59] blacklisting the driver would be "system-wide" [16:00] i'm the only user, blacklisting the driver is a good choice. it's that or open the guts of the computer and pull the physical cable [16:00] Ahmuck: if you are the only user, then the user's autostart should work fine for you [16:01] ..unless you really REALLY need it disabled in login too [16:01] /etc/xdg/autostart should be systemwide autostart location you seek [16:02] i really need it disable on logon. when i logon my hands are to large and the touchpad is to large and it keeps messing with my logon (drops down guest, etc) [16:02] actually.. it looks like /etc/modprobe.d/ is still there in 14.04, so that url's directions might actually work [16:02] Ahmuck: sure.. try one of the suggestions above for getting it disabled at login, friend.. /etc/xdg/autostart or blacklist driver [16:02] /etc/xdg/autostart looks like what i want with a desktop entry [16:05] why do you need it disabled btw? [16:05] I'm asking because at least the synaptics driver allows for palm-detection, so you won't accidentally use the touchpad while typing [16:05] i use an exteranal usb mouse [16:06] i've never used a touchpad on a laptop [16:06] don't know how [16:06] i started with the peg in the center of the keyboard [16:06] touchstick (?) [16:06] on the early IBM laptops [16:07] http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Bluetooth-Keyboard-with-TrackPoint-keyboard/3041485.aspx?cm_cat=GoogleBase&cm_ite=3041485&cm_pla=NA-NA-LVO_KB&cm_ven=ShoppingFeeds&ef_id=VBmxqgAABQIYtOh8:20140917160706:s&gclid=CIi82PnQ6MACFaTm7AodeEUANw [16:08] i recently found an abandoned laptop with one of those [16:08] still haven't fixed it up though.. needs a new battery at least [16:08] these days, its not worth putting a battery in hardware like that [16:09] it is, when you're living the cyberpunk utopia in your living room :P [16:09] at least here, you can get many of those chromebooks, new, for around $100US if you are looking all around.. a new laptop battery can be half that.. and the machine at the end of the process is not comparable.. [16:10] tbh, i was planning on fixing it and selling it for the price of the replacement components [16:10] well, /etc/xdg/something/autostart/disable-synaptics-touchpad.desktop file works after login, but not before [16:10] guess i'll deal with it [16:12] stress level -3 points for today [16:12] i guess you could call the script from /etc/rc.local [16:13] or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM [16:18] thanks for the link to lightdm. next step is to disable guest login and set root password [16:19] :-p [16:19] nobody jumped [16:22] System provided configuration is stored in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/*.conf and is not user editable. - Is this true? [16:22] * Ahmuck used nano *.conf and appears editable [16:24] out, thanks again for /etc/xdg/something/autostart [16:26] Ahmuck, i think that means that the file gets overwritten by updates [16:26] along with any user modifications [16:27] ah, makes sense [18:10] my laptop has no sound after closing the lid and re-opening, logging back into [18:11] this is one i would be willing to file a bug report for. [18:11] as it may be an odd bug [18:14] i used to have an alsa reload shortcut on the desktop of one machine i own.. [18:21] Error, you need to install an application to configure the sound (pavucontol, alsamixer ...) [18:21] alsamixer should be there [18:21] however alsamixer is on the system as i can execute via cl [18:21] i like using pavucontrol, but, lubuntu doesnt ship with pulse [18:21] but not through menu from systray icon [18:22] Ahmuck: there should be no menu entry for it [18:22] "volume control settings" [18:22] right.. thats a GUI.. [18:22] alsamixer is a command line curses tool [18:22] right click on volume control icon, select volume control settings [18:22] on other pc it would open alsamixer [18:22] did not test on this one [18:23] likely, its a gui for it.. not "alsamixer" [18:23] * Ahmuck thinks i need to move to different channel [18:23] *shrugs*, it would open a term with alsamixer [18:23] bbl, need to read [18:31] Ahmuck: i know of no tool that comes standard in lubuntu that if you right click on it opens up alsamixer [18:31] i know other desktop environments provide such things but not lubuntu [18:33] brb [18:36] *shrugs*, worked before, not now [18:37] again, there is package out there (Forgot what it's called) that will do such a thing [18:38] you could see if there's a differencce in packages by doing `dpkg -l` on both machines and then `diff` the two [18:38] alsamixer should do what is needed [18:38] holstein: it does, but he wants his lxpanel indicator to open alsamixer when clicked [18:39] i would just make a shortcut, and put it wherever i want [18:39] holstein: he also has the impression one machine already does this and the other does not [18:39] yeah.. we'll just have to wait on some factual details.. [18:40] indeed === zz_RedDeath is now known as RedDeath [18:44] * RedDeath Back [18:44] mine does exactly what Ahmuck, describes. right click on volume indicator, volume control settings opens alsamixer in lxterminal [18:45] Ahmuck has stated some kind of panel configuration [18:45] Subroutine: what is the indicator called? [18:46] wxl: i agree with where i think you are going.. [18:46] wxl: volume control [18:46] Subroutine: and you can verify this in both the context menu where it says " settings" as well as in the option for lxpanel where is lists all the indicators? [18:47] wxl: i found an another bug:) [18:47] zota: congrats. file it :) [18:47] holstein, wxl, works for me, sorry it doesn't work for you ;-) [18:48] wxl: yes [18:48] Ahmuck: i thought you said it didn't work. [18:48] Ahmuck: everything is find and dandy here.. i thought you were having an issue with it.. im glad its working as you need and expect.. enjoy [18:48] fine* [18:48] wxl: accidentally i pulled out my wifi usb while its transmitting, and X got crashed [18:48] wifi usb adapter [18:48] zota: is that a "bug" ? [18:49] zota: oooh that's fun. dmesg or syslog tell you anything about what specifically died? [18:49] holstein: well, one would hope it would complain at you, not crash the whole display server XD [18:49] actually it's not. was on the old laptop. to be fair, it may have been a carry over from "upgrade". however i normally don't upgrade, usually fresh install every time [18:50] Ahmuck: thats what i suggest [18:50] but prior to 14.04 it was always set a xterm for adjustment of alsa with alsamixer. [18:50] bbl [18:59] wxl: (wlan0): device state change: disconnected -> unmanaged (reason 'removed') [30 10 36] [18:59] zota: that's doubtful to be your problem [19:03] i cant find any x crach log [19:14] hi. anyone using lubuntu to play roms on mame? I am looking for some information what is the best front-end to use [19:15] plome: i would just go upstream and see if you get more attention.. anything in main ubuntu or any of the flavors, or general debian/linux will bre relevant.. [19:15] be* [19:15] ok thanks [19:15] i forget where i landed with that, but i just loaded a bunch up and went with the easy one [19:17] i will go there, thx [19:17] :) [21:14] how do i know which package is from restricted/multiverse, or not opensouced? [21:15] in my install [21:19] by using Synaptic [21:19] and using the relevant filers in the columns [21:20] check in the "menu > preferences" and see for one column to eventuelly add: "component" [21:33] BQ: you can use dpkg-query - in terminal like this: dpkg-query -W --showformat='${binary:Package} ${Section}\n' [21:33] BQ: its no smiley, its a : and directly followed by package [21:34] BQ: maybe check "man dpkg-query" for the names of the format-output-fields === BQ_ is now known as BQ [22:11] melodie: this is no horizontal scroll, cannot see info at the right. [22:12] BQ you don't scroll, you filter with the columns [22:12] melodie: cannot see the columns [22:13] there are columns in Synaptic [22:13] just look between the list of packages and the menus : those are the columns [22:24] melodie: i created filter. how to apply filter? [22:24] BQ let me see [22:25] have you added a column "components" in the Menu > Preferences menu? [22:25] "Menu > Configuration > Preferences" [22:26] testdr: dpkg-query -W --showformat='${binary:Package} ${Section} {Component}\n' does not show component. [22:26] BQ it's paste midnight here, so now we are going to hurry, ok? [22:26] don't do that [22:26] jsut what I just told you [22:26] "Menu > Configuration > Preferences" [22:26] in there you go to the tab "Columns and fonts" [22:27] then you tick "Component" [22:27] then you click to "Apply" and you close the windows [22:27] -s [22:27] window [22:27] then on top of the list of packages, you have : [22:28] S | | Package | Component | Installed version | Last version ... and so on [22:28] do you see that line? [22:28] if you see that line, just click on the word "Component" [22:29] yes i see component. but how to apply filter i just created. [22:29] this will group all installed packages by component, and then all you have left to do is scroll to the multiverse component [22:29] you don't use the filter you created, you do not need that [22:29] the filtering is done by gathering the components in the column : just read what I just told you [22:31] ok thanks. [22:31] :) [22:31] welcome [22:43] testdr, hey, did you by chance find out something about the 'no session for pid xxx' error? === BQ_ is now known as BQ [22:59] weld_: no - i only could see the error-message about it starting the guest-session. But the guest-session then runs and i can only confirm that some configuration is wrong. I know to less about new version of lightdm. [23:00] i actually haven't found anything to be broken, despite this message