[03:57] <liuxg> does anyone know how to direct the "cout" output to the "application output" window in Qt Creator?
[04:05] <Akiva-Thinkpad> liuxg, hey
[04:05] <Akiva-Thinkpad> liuxg, can't you just use qDebug() << stuff;
[04:06] <liuxg> the thing is that the new scope template just wants to get rid of Qt
[04:07] <liuxg> Akiva-Thinkpad, thanks for your reply. the strategy is removing the dependence on Qt.
[04:08] <Akiva-Thinkpad> liuxg, wait... is this qml or qt?
[04:08] <liuxg> Akiva-Thinkpad, it is a pure C++ scope.
[06:47] <dholbach> good morning
[06:47] <popey> morning
[06:58] <mihir> nik90: morning :)
[06:58] <mihir> dholbach: morning :)
[07:02] <dholbach> hi mihir
[08:26] <mzanetti> nik90: hey, another day, another alarm issue :)
[08:26] <mzanetti> nik90: snoozing doesn't seem to work for me. should it?
[08:28] <jppiiroinen> i have two cursors on utopic :D
[08:29] <popey> mzanetti: works here
[08:29] <popey> well, did yesterday, not tried today
[08:29] <mzanetti> popey: hmm... I press snooze, it goes away, never rings again
[08:29] <jppiiroinen> for some reason, the unity does not like me as i have another display in clockwise orientation
[08:29] <popey> which image?
[08:30] <popey> mzanetti: oh, is this snooze on calendar item or clock item?
[08:30] <mzanetti> popey: alarm clock
[08:30] <mzanetti> popey: image 37, krillin
[08:31] <popey> hmm, 44 on krillin here...
[08:31] <mzanetti> errr
[08:31] <mzanetti> what?
[08:31] <mzanetti> I flashed yesterday
[08:31] <mzanetti> popey: ah, deve-proposed that is
[08:31] <mzanetti> not rtm
[08:31]  * mzanetti feels we should align image numbers :D
[08:33] <popey> mine just rang again after I hit snooze
[08:36] <popey> ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed
[08:40] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Country Music Day! :-D
[08:41] <justCarakas> yeey loged in just in time to see JamesTait's morning greet :p
[08:41] <JamesTait> A satisfied customer! My work here is done!
[08:46] <justCarakas> that was a short workday JamesTait :p
[08:50] <JamesTait> justCarakas, if only it were that easy. :-P
[08:56] <popey> mzanetti: when swiping in an app which was suspended, do you see that the preview is blurry?
[08:58] <mzanetti> popey: I think there was something... for some reason this never happened so far to me without intentionally forcing the situation
[08:58] <mzanetti> I usually close apps when I don't need them any more
[08:58] <popey> i get it often
[08:58] <popey> want a bug in unity8?
[08:59] <mihir> popey: ping
[08:59] <popey> mihir: pong
[09:00] <mihir> popey: we might have to overlaps hours in Weekview i guess or need to find some other way to make it work , it is not looking as expected on device
[09:00] <mihir> popey:  https://i.imgur.com/imB1lyd.png
[09:00] <popey> ew
[09:00] <mihir> popey: any suggestion?
[09:00] <popey> let me think about it for a bit
[09:01] <popey> will get back to you
[09:01] <mihir> so what i did currently, to have first column to just Time and rest starts with after time column
[09:01] <mihir> popey: no issues :) just ping me whenever you get some ideas :D
[09:01] <popey> kk
[10:02] <dpm> oSoMoN, can someone from your team perhaps review this trivial MP? -> https://code.launchpad.net/~vrruiz/gallery-app/i18n-strings/+merge/234671
[10:10] <oSoMoN> dpm: sure, I’ll take it
[10:10] <dpm> thanks oSoMoN!
[10:24] <nik90> hello everyone :-)
[10:24] <nik90> t1mp: ping
[10:34] <nik90> Mirv: hey do you know if the silo we were interested in landed? (AGPS)
[10:34] <nik90> Mirv: I lost track of it :-)
[10:41] <mihir> nik90: hello :)
[10:41] <Mirv> nik90: if it's not at http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?q= then it has probably been released (...to https://lists.canonical.com/archives/utopic-changes/2014-September/thread.html)
[10:41] <nik90> mihir: Hi :-)
[10:41] <Mirv> nik90: I do see landing-002 still has some positioning thing, I'm not sure if that exporting of error codes is critical for functionality or not
[10:42] <nik90> Mirv: no that was requested by me :)
[10:42] <nik90> Mirv: its just to denote the correct status of the location service to apps
[10:42] <Mirv> nik90: ah, ok. but I was running 244 today and at least osmtouch did not give me any position :(
[10:43] <Mirv> (no visibility to GPS satellites, but AGPS should work if it... works)
[10:43] <nik90> yes
[10:43] <nik90> location service is so elusive :P
[10:45] <nik90> mihir: hey I replied to both your branches yesterday
[10:48] <mihir> nik90: yes, replied on design , what do you think now ?
[10:48] <nik90> checking now
[10:49] <nik90> mihir: yes I saw we go ahead with that suggestion
[10:49] <nik90> mihir: let's not delay this anymore
[10:50] <nik90> mihir: Also there is a regression in https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/NewEventRepeatFix/+merge/234831 where it doesn't show the location set in the event details page causing AP to fail
[10:50] <nik90> mihir: the repeat options now work as expected. nice work on that!
[10:50] <mihir> nik90: i will fix both of them.
[10:50] <mihir> nik90: in a meanwhile if you can help with some AP fixes in new design branch , would be helpful
[10:51] <mihir> i fixed some of them
[10:51] <nik90> mihir: I will try. I can't run the AP tests on my desktop. So will need to wait for balloons to come online
[10:51] <mihir> nik90: weekview requires more changes, as we have changed the labels in view , it is failing asserting that
[10:52] <mihir> nik90: okay :)
[10:54] <nik90> ok
[11:20] <mzanetti> popey: hmm... can't repro the failing snooze any more... but I'm quite sure I pressed snooze today morning and it didn't come back
[11:21] <popey> maybe you dreamed it ☻
[11:29] <mivoligo> mzanetti: hi
[11:29] <mzanetti> hi mivoligo
[11:30] <mivoligo> mzanetti: I'm playing right now :)
[11:30] <mivoligo> mzanetti: but failing miserable
[11:31] <mivoligo> mzanetti: can't even pass the second wave of the first level
[11:31] <t1mp> nik90: .....aaaand pong!
[11:31] <davmor2> mzanetti: was it an alarm or was it an alert from calendar to a meeting?
[11:32] <nik90> t1mp: :)
[11:32] <nik90> t1mp: I was looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1370146
[11:32] <nik90> t1mp: can I use head.contents to add the text below the icons by defining my own buttons instead of header actions?
[11:32] <nik90> t1mp: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/185037112/multiselect_messages_app.png
[11:33] <mzanetti> mivoligo: haha
[11:33] <mzanetti> davmor2: alarm
[11:33] <mzanetti> mivoligo: so... think I need to make it easier?
[11:33] <mzanetti> mivoligo: I know its possible to make it
[11:33] <t1mp> nik90: yes you can use head.contents for everything. The (deprecated) ToolbarButton looks the way you want
[11:34] <mivoligo> mzanetti: for me is to hard
[11:34] <t1mp> nik90: but the picture you sent is a wireframe, not necessarily the actual visual design
[11:34] <nik90> t1mp: but does head.contents allow over riding the back button as well?
[11:34] <nik90> t1mp: yeah I know, but the bug description clearly says that the icons should show text in the multiselect mode
[11:34] <oSoMoN> dpm, I commented on https://code.launchpad.net/~vrruiz/gallery-app/i18n-strings/+merge/234671 , your input welcome
[11:34] <t1mp> nik90: you would have to disable the back button to get the space on the left side for the contents item
[11:35] <nik90> t1mp: disable? as in not declare it?
[11:35] <mzanetti> mivoligo: hmm...
[11:35] <mivoligo> mzanetti: also the enemies come out backwards from the rocket, I don't know if that's intentional
[11:35] <mzanetti> mivoligo: no... there's a bug still
[11:37] <mzanetti> all: when you have some lazy time and want testing a game, check out lp:machines-vs-machines (you need to run ./setupdata.py in data after checkout)
[11:37] <t1mp> nik90: set a backAction with visible==false
[11:37] <mzanetti> people tell its too hard but I don't believe them
[11:37] <mzanetti> so if you try the game, please let me know how many attempts it took you to complete the first 5 levels
[11:38] <nik90> t1mp: yup that works
[11:38] <nik90>  t1thnnx
[11:38] <nik90> bah ..t1mp: thnx
[11:38] <dpm> oSoMoN, thanks a lot! Not sure I quite understand the comment about the warning. Would something along the lines of:
[11:38] <dpm> i18n.tr("Delete %1 photo", "Delete %1 photos", organicEventView.selection.selectedCount)
[11:38] <dpm> take care of the warning?
[11:39] <t1mp> nik90: somehow I understood what "t1thnnx" means :)
[11:39] <nik90> hehe
[11:41] <oSoMoN> dpm, it would indeed
[11:41] <oSoMoN> dpm, the issue is that the call to .arg(…) expects a "%1" placeholder in the translated string
[11:42] <oSoMoN> dpm, and in the case of the singular form, it won’t find one, and it complains about it
[11:42] <dpm> ok, gotcha
[11:42] <dpm> let me comment again on the MR
[11:42] <oSoMoN> dpm, it’s not a big deal, I think it will still work ok, but the warning will be unnecessary noise
[11:44] <dpm> yeah, but it's a good point
[11:48] <ck> hello
[12:14]  * popey tickles dholbach with https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/576/changerequest/
[12:14] <popey> ☻
[12:15] <dholbach> popey, done
[12:17] <popey> ta
[12:17] <mivoligo> mzanetti: somehow I have -3 lives now :D
[12:30] <mzanetti> mivoligo: uh oh
[12:30] <mzanetti> that shouldn't happen
[12:31] <mzanetti> mivoligo: while running I was thinking a bit. I think I can easily add difficulty levels without changing much in the code
[12:31] <nik90> mzanetti: are you planning to put easter eggs in the game? Like a cheat code like "God Mode" to kill robots in one hit :-) ?
[12:31] <mivoligo> mzanetti: I've finished 2 levels with minus twenty something lives :D
[12:32] <mzanetti> nik90: not really planned, no
[12:32] <mivoligo> mzanetti: I think the trick is to press pause button when you have 0 lives
[12:32] <mzanetti> hmm... interesting
[12:33] <mzanetti> so turns out I'm actually a tower defense game pro :D
[12:33] <mzanetti> I was worrying those levels could be too easy
[12:34] <mivoligo> mzanetti: hehe, looks like I am a noob
[12:39] <mivoligo> mzanetti: hmm.., I can't reproduce the bug with lives anymore :(
[12:40] <nik90> zbenjamin: hey, when I try to click the option in qtc to make a device writeable, I get touch: cannot touch ‘/userdata/.writable_image’: Permission denied
[12:40] <nik90> reboot: Need to be root
[12:40] <nik90> zbenjamin: known issue?
[12:40] <zbenjamin> nik90: yes, sadly this function is broken since we switched to the new adb
[12:41] <nik90> ah ok
[12:41] <zbenjamin> nik90: use phablet-config
[12:42] <nik90> zbenjamin: cool that works
[13:06] <karni_> zsombi: pingses. would you agree header Actions should take focus, so that TextField's being editted are commited and can be used without calling Qt.inputMethod.commit() ?
[13:07] <zsombi> karni_: well, if it takes focus, then it will take everywhere. That is not configurable unfortunately
[13:07] <zsombi> karni_: but yes, it would work
[13:07] <karni_> zsombi: otherwise, I hit a header Action button, and my text (being editted) returns nothing when I check it's .text (or .displayText) value
[13:08] <karni_> if the input method predictive text is enabled, that is
[13:08] <karni_> zsombi: Would you like me to file a bug to add that to uitoolkit?
[13:08] <zsombi> karni_: my only problem with focusing in the header is that you cannot configure it. Yet. maybe t1mp can introduce a focus configuration property there
[13:09] <zsombi> karni_: I guess yes :)
[13:09] <karni_> zsombi: I think that's how taking focus works, but more explicitly - I'd be interested in Action buttons (directly or indirectly via "focus lost event") call Qt.inputMethod.commit()
[13:09] <karni_> zsombi: which project should I file it against?
[13:09]  * karni_ looks for ubuntu uitoolkit
[13:10] <karni_> ubuntu-ui-toolkit
[13:10] <zsombi> karni_: yup, that one
[13:10] <zsombi> karni_: however I disagree on calling IM commit in every button...
[13:11] <karni_> zsombi: what'd be the case where you want to keep your last entered word in a pre-buffer for a text field after you press any Action button?
[13:12] <karni_> zsombi: I know it's just how it works, but it's very confusing that .text can return something else than .displayText, and I heard it caused a lot of headaches to other devs.
[13:12] <karni_> If I press an Action button, I probably want to act with whatever data I entered using the keyboard
[13:13] <karni_> zsombi: feel free to voice in on it here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1370506
[13:14] <zsombi> karni_: and what if you don't have any text input in your form, only buttons? it's an unnecessary call there
[13:14] <zsombi> karni_: text and displayText is the way Qt TextInput and TextEdit works
[13:14] <karni_> zsombi: well, the toolkit could first check if the input method is visible (unless you consider a bool check another unnecessary method call, which I'd consider lightweight)
[13:15] <karni_> zsombi: yes. I noted "I know it's just how it works" :)
[13:15] <zsombi> karni_: the reason they have that is that text can be a complete richtext document with formats, whereas displayText is one that the user sees
[13:16] <zsombi> karni_: all these ind of checks are having penalties on performance, and we shoudl avoid them
[13:16] <zsombi> kind
[13:17] <karni_> zsombi: interesting. I know this was a platform/API desicion, but I'd consider much better having .text being what is actually visible to the user, and .richText (or whatever) to return what actually there may be (different from .text). But I know it's upsteram. Just saying :)
[13:18] <zsombi> karni_: well, .text can be anything, it even can be teh same as .displayText :)
[13:18] <karni_> zsombi: well, I heard that if TextField looses focus, it commits the change, so if Action buttons could take focus, the problem would be solved (even though the call is not done in the Action button event, it's still done elsewhere)
[13:19] <zsombi> karni_: yup, and that's why I said maybe t1mp can expose a property which configures the focus handling in the header :)
[13:19] <zsombi> karni_: like everywhere in teh header, so things can be turned off
[13:20] <zsombi> karni_: right now you cannot access the buttons from the header, so we need a way to opt them in/out
[13:20] <karni_> zsombi: makes perfect sense, thank you
[13:34] <popey> nik90: image promoted, shall we push clock trunk to store?
[13:35] <nik90> popey: not yet. I am working on some small fixes.
[13:35] <nik90> popey: also elopio wanted to run the clock app manual test suite before pushing clock to store.
[13:35] <popey> ok
[13:35] <popey> just ping us when you're ready
[13:35] <nik90> The manual test suite was pushed only yesterday and we wanted to confirm it works as expected
[13:35] <nik90> sure
[13:43] <nik90> t1mp: how's https://imgur.com/Av0tPY1 ;D ?
[13:44] <nik90> t1mp: just one question pls, in https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk/view/head:/modules/Ubuntu/Components/Themes/Ambiance/PageHeadStyle.qml#L331 what color is that? I couldn't find styledItem.config.foregroundColor
[13:44] <nik90> t1mp: so for now I just hardcoded it to #5D5D5D which I am not too happy about
[13:56] <t1mp> nik90: cool!
[13:56] <t1mp> nik90: just it seems positioned a little bit above the center
[13:57] <nik90> t1mp: I think that's because it is positioning the column vertically centered
[13:57] <nik90> may be I should reduce the column spacing a bit
[13:58] <t1mp> nik90: that config is a PageHeadConriguration, so it comes from Page.Head.config, which in turn takes the default from the palette
[13:59] <t1mp> nik90: hah.. and that uses UbuntuColors.darkGrey, which is 5d5d5f
[13:59] <t1mp> *5d5d5d
[13:59] <nik90> hehe
[13:59] <nik90> I used an online color picker to find that out :P
[14:01] <dpm> mzanetti, are you around for the reminders call?
[14:01] <mzanetti> dpm: ah right
[14:01] <mzanetti> sorry. be there in a sec
[14:06] <balloons> nik90, mihir whatcha need?
[14:07] <nik90> balloons: I have trouble running calendar apps ap tests since I might be missing some dependencies.
[14:07] <elopio> nik90: so, should I run manual tests now?
[14:08] <nik90> elopio: not yet, I want to get 1-2 branches in..will ping you then
[14:08] <balloons> nik90, ahh.. well everything should be noted in the debian/control file
[14:08] <elopio> ack.
[14:08] <nik90> elopio: most likely tomorrow only
[14:08] <nik90> balloons: ack. I will take a look.
[14:09] <nik90> zbenjamin: btw I asked rsalvetti about the emulator issue.
[14:09] <balloons> nik90, there is the address book testability packages; you probably are missing those
[14:10] <zbenjamin> nik90: what did he say?
[14:10] <nik90> zbenjamin: apparently app don't release the EGL surface on the emulator. As a result after 15-20 tries, I need to restart the emulator
[14:10] <zbenjamin> nik90: ok!
[14:10] <zbenjamin> nik90: thanks for checking that
[14:10] <nik90> zbenjamin: np
[14:11] <nik90> zbenjamin: hey btw I notice that for some emulator imags, I notice some old kits keep showing up even If I deleted them.
[14:11] <nik90> zbenjamin: it only appears again when I restart qtc.
[14:11] <ogra_> zbenjamin, https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/phablet-tools/phablet-tools-fix-phablet-shell/+merge/234976 ...
[14:11] <nik90> balloons: I think I installed it. I had issue with some autopilot fixture or something.
[14:11] <ogra_> that should fix your SDK vs phablet-shell issues
[14:11] <nik90> balloons: I am a bit knee deep with a clock mp atm. But will try out calendar app tests later and then ping if I still run into trouble.
[14:13] <zbenjamin> ogra_: awesome :)
[14:13] <ogra_> zbenjamin, would be good if someone who sees the issue could confirm it fixes it though :)
[14:14] <balloons> nik90, no worries. stay on target :-)
[14:18] <zbenjamin> ogra_: well at least i can connect with phablet-shell and then with the SDK
[14:18] <zbenjamin> ogra_: so for me it works
[14:18] <ogra_> yay, thanks
[14:19] <ogra_> could you mention that on the MP
[14:19] <zbenjamin> ogra_: i wonder why this ever did not work... because we seem to use the authorized_keys2 instead of the other one
[14:19] <ogra_> yeah, thats a bit weird
[14:23] <zbenjamin> ogra_: anyhow, thats definately a improvement over the old way of doing it :)
[14:24] <ogra_> :)
[14:24] <ogra_> yeah,, it was a bit hardcoded before :)
[14:33] <brendand> nik90, hey - an interesting bug for you - maybe
[14:34] <brendand> nik90, so if i set an alarm and then change the timezone, the alarm time doesn't adjust
[14:34] <brendand> nik90, maybe that should be the case though
[14:49] <nik90> t1mp: new screenshots -> https://imgur.com/a/zopnJ
[14:49] <nik90> t1mp: shows multiple use cases
[14:57] <t1mp> nik90: cool, nice work :)
[14:58] <nik90> t1mp: thnx. your PageHeadButton helped nicely :)
[14:59] <t1mp> nik90: you copied the PageHeadButton and added text? :)
[14:59] <nik90> t1mp: yup :) also simplified a code little since I don't need to worry about edge cases like the sdk needs to
[15:00] <nik90> popey: could you test https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/improved-multiselectmode/+merge/234992 -> Click Package in dropbox
[15:11]  * ahoneybun nexus4 has been shipped
[15:19] <ahoneybun> who works on the reminder app?
[15:22] <nik90> ahoneybun: -> rpadovani
[15:25] <popey> nik90: i can't until a bit later, about to go afk for the evening, but will do when i get back.
[15:25] <nik90> popey: np not a hurry
[15:25] <popey> k
[15:29] <popey> dholbach: the click reviewer tools that runs from click seems to make /tmp/clickreview-foo ? It doesn't tidy up. alan@deep-thought:/tmp$ ls -ld clickreview-* | wc -l
[15:29] <popey> 48
[15:32] <dholbach> jdstrand, ^ could this be a comeback of the issue we had in the destructor of ClickReview some time ago?
[15:33] <jdstrand> I'm not sure
[15:34] <dholbach> popey, looks like it's unrelated to click spawning click-review
[15:34] <dholbach> so a general issue
[15:36] <dholbach> popey, I filed bug 1370577
[15:37] <popey> thanks
[15:40] <ahoneybun> hey popey
[15:45] <popey> ahoneybun: hi
[15:48] <karni_> Anyone can help me better understand the details of importing a contact into a QML app? I'm looking at this (and nearby) pages http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Content.ContentType/
[15:48] <karni_> I'm interested in ContentType.Contacts, but when I do receive them, I've no idea what type they are. Would it be
[15:49] <karni_> http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/QtContacts.Contact/ ?
[15:51] <nik90> karni_: hey how is it going? :)
[15:52] <karni_> nik90: not bad, thank you :)
[15:54] <nik90> karni_: I think you should talk to Kunal about the contacts import since calendar app does this as well to add guests to an event
[15:55] <nik90> karni_: https://launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar
[15:55] <karni_> nik90: thanks :)
[15:55] <nik90> yw :)
[16:06]  * popey goes foraging for food
[16:12] <mihir> balloons: ping
[16:12] <balloons> mihir, pong
[16:12] <ahoneybun> rpadovani: ping
[16:12] <mihir> nik90: hi
[16:13] <mihir> balloons: is this fail related to something else, http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-utopic/
[16:13] <balloons> mihir, http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-utopic/2029/?
[16:13] <mihir> balloons: http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/ubuntu-calendar-app-ci/805/
[16:16] <mihir> balloons: or it is because of this bug , https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1370563 ?
[16:16] <rpadovani> ahoneybun, is it urgent or we can do in 15 minutes?
[16:22] <ahoneybun> rpadovani: it can wait
[16:25] <brendand> mhall119, how are your velociraptor legs feeling?
[16:27] <rpadovani> ahoneybun, hey :-) What's up?
[16:28] <ahoneybun> rpadovani: I'm looking about trying to help out with reminder app
[16:28] <rpadovani> oh, cool :-)
[16:28] <ahoneybun> yep where I can anyway
[16:29] <rpadovani> ahoneybun, well, at the moment there isn't a lot of work to do. Do you know C++?
[16:29] <ahoneybun> I'm learning but currently I've very limited
[16:30] <rpadovani> Mhh, ok. So, on the front-end there isn't nothing atm, we're waiting for a review by designer. If you find a bug, of course, you can fix it. For the backend there is some works to improve performance, but you should ask to mzanetti about them
[16:31] <mzanetti> hmm.. let me look at the list of bugs
[16:31] <balloons> mihir, ohh.. interesting bug.. that's the swiping flickable issue I've seen
[16:32] <mihir> balloons: i found issues in one test case, and i fixed that
[16:33] <ahoneybun> rpadovani: right now I'm on verizon with htc one m7, but I ordered a nexus 4 that comes saturday so I will have a device to test with :)
[16:33] <rpadovani> ahoneybun, yeah :-) It's a great device!
[16:35] <balloons> mihir, nik90 how's the new event UI changes coming?
[16:35] <ahoneybun> rpadovani: my dad is going to leave verizon so and then my mom will lower our plan and jump to straighttalk
[16:38] <nik90> balloons: erm that already landed?
[16:41] <nik90> balloons: or did you mean the week view, day view redesign?
[16:41] <nik90> sry too many redesigns :P
[16:41] <balloons> nik90, I was just looking for it.. Didn't realize it landed!
[16:42] <nik90> :)
[16:44]  * balloons goes to look
[16:46] <mihir> balloons: sorry got discconected
[17:03] <mihir> popey: nik90 ping
[17:04] <mihir> popey: this is how weekview will look now http://i.imgur.com/ErpWtpO.png
[17:04] <mihir> nik90: ^^
[17:04] <mihir> popey: only problem i see is , it'll overlap time on first column.
[17:05] <nik90> mihir: the day names and dates look much better now
[17:05] <nik90> mihir: could you add a small padding to the top of around 0.5 gu units
[17:05] <nik90> mihir: we will worry about the time overlap issue in a later mo
[17:05] <nik90> mp
[17:06] <mihir> nik90: okay , let me do that
[17:06]  * nik90 runs to prepare dinner
[17:06] <mihir> nik90: popey this how when there is time overlapin , http://i.imgur.com/WSV8DjQ.png
[17:08] <dpm> hi bfiller, would it be possible to get this i18n fix landed? It's a trivial one. As per the conversation we had yesterday, if the .pot update generates conflicts, we might want to ask vrruiz to resubmit without the .pot update and then commit the .pot manually afterwards -> https://code.launchpad.net/~vrruiz/gallery-app/i18n-strings/+merge/234671
[17:13] <mihir> nik90: done, and pushed
[17:13] <bfiller> dpm: I have a silo for gallery, let me add this. hopefully a release will happen in the next day or two
[17:14] <dpm> awesome, thanks bfiller
[17:17] <bfiller> dpm: hmn, so we already have this MR in the silo which touches the pot file: https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/gallery-app/desktop-i18n/+merge/234679 so I think we are going to hit the problem we described yesterday
[17:18] <bfiller> dpm: maybe vrruiz's MR should remove the pot file and we can merge that manually after
[17:18] <dpm> bfiller, let me check if vrruiz is online - otherwise I can quickly submit a separate MP without the .pot update
[17:22] <mihir> nik90: there ?
[17:22] <nik90> mihir: sort of
[17:22] <nik90> what's up
[17:22] <mihir> okay , i am removing some of tests which is not needed , is that fine ?
[17:22] <nik90> mihir: not needed why?
[17:23] <mihir> nik90: like in day view it checks , test_current_month_and_year_is_selected
[17:23] <mihir> and then it selected it is test_show_current_days
[17:23] <mihir> now as we have removed Month and year from header, i don't feel we need them
[17:23] <nik90> couldn't you modify them to check if the header label reads the current month perhaps?
[17:24] <mihir> i can , but i feel it would be redudent test
[17:24] <nik90> actually nvr mind that doesn't really qualify as a proper ap test
[17:24] <nik90> sure
[17:25] <mihir> Hmm okay :)
[17:25] <mihir> so let me modify it.
[17:25] <nik90> ok
[17:25] <mihir> btw, i pushed patches to both the MR
[17:26] <nik90> ok, will test when I get some time
[17:27] <nik90> mihir: btw did you try the emulator or phone on your real system to see if you are able to run or not?
[17:27] <mihir> nik90: I am still unable to connect my phone to either of my machine..
[17:28] <nik90> mihir: you got the latest image?
[17:28] <mihir> neither emulator works for me...as re-installing time conusiming will do that in weekenv
[17:28] <mihir> i got the latest image on my device
[17:28] <nik90> so your device is not even showing up in the file manager/
[17:28] <nik90> ?
[17:28] <mihir> it does
[17:28] <mihir> but not by qtc nor adb works
[17:29] <mihir> but i'll try once we done with this , i will investigate issue.
[17:29] <dpm> bfiller, ok, I've resubmitted it as https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/gallery-app/i18n-strings/+merge/235017 - would it be possible to land this one instead?
[17:30] <nik90> mihir: https://imgur.com/ADvikJR
[17:30] <nik90> mihir: week view issue..I think you are missing an anchoring somehwere
[17:30] <mihir> hmm nik90 i removed anchors from right in weekview
[17:31] <mihir> hmm i added in left, i guess i should remove that too
[17:31] <nik90> by mistake?
[17:31] <nik90> Why not add both left and right anchors?
[17:31] <mihir> nik90: that won't work
[17:31] <mihir> the bubble won't display on right place
[17:32] <nik90> I will take a look
[17:34] <mihir> nik90: okay, i'll investigate issue with my system
[17:34] <bfiller> dpm: sure, thanks
[17:34] <dpm> great
[17:39] <elopio> nik90: I don't get why is that test failing. If I call reset twice on the cleanup, they all pass. Do you have any ideas?
[17:39] <nik90> elopio: it is a timing issue. alarm.reset() takes a while to perform
[17:39] <nik90> elopio: if however you manually set alarm.type = Alarm.Single or something, it worked.
[17:39] <elopio> nik90: but if I add a tryCompare to wait for the properties, they also fail.
[17:40] <nik90> elopio: I know I tried :/..I will need to get mzanetti's help to fix that
[17:40] <nik90> elopio: btw do you know if jenkins is configured to run the qml tests only in your MP?
[17:40] <nik90> or every MP?
[17:40] <nik90> elopio: cause I don't see jenkins failing in other MPs
[17:41] <elopio> nik90: on my MP, I'm changing cmake files to run the tests during build.
[17:41] <nik90> ah :)
[17:41] <elopio> so it's not a jenkins configuration. It's a change in the branch.
[17:42] <elopio> I think that's better, so you don't have to depend on CI to make changes on what is run. But I'm waiting for Francis' opinion.
[17:42] <nik90> elopio: I will try to work with mzanetti when is free to fix the failing test. Or if you want you could add a FIXME to your code
[17:42] <elopio> he's on a conference or something like that.
[17:43] <elopio> nik90: this shouldn't land before getting Francis' approval, so I can wait for a proper fix.
[17:43] <elopio> once you understand what's going on, please let me know.
[17:43] <nik90> elopio: will do
[17:43] <nik90> elopio: but why do we need francis's approval? He already enabled it in jenkin's side
[17:44] <nik90> I think he was waiting for the fix in clock app
[17:44] <elopio> nik90: wasn't he blocked because it didn't work on xvfb for him?
[17:45] <elopio> I made this branch just to see if xvfb worked.
[17:45] <nik90> ah ok
[17:45] <nik90> we will for francis then
[17:45] <nik90> wait*
[17:45] <DanChapman> Hey guys can i get some opinions please on http://i.imgur.com/ubvxEGH.png do you prefer with/without the list item divider
[17:45] <mihir> DanChapman: with
[17:45] <nik90> DanChapman: Dude that looks freaking awesome
[17:45] <nik90> DanChapman: I like both :P
[17:46] <nik90> but go with the dividers
[17:46] <nik90> DanChapman: that's what the other apps do
[17:46] <elopio> nik90: I have partial information, so yes, I think it's better to get the green light from him. It might clash with something CI was preparing. I don't think so, but better double check.
[17:46] <mihir> DanChapman: with devider it makes easy to define read counts :D and btw awesome work :)
[17:46] <nik90> elopio: +100
[17:46] <mihir> nik90: Jenkins passed
[17:46] <mihir> https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/NewEventRepeatFix/+merge/234831
[17:46] <mihir> can you top approve ?
[17:46] <nik90> mihir: yup saw
[17:47] <nik90> mihir: I want to test manually before top approve
[17:47] <DanChapman> nik90, yeah I like both aswell :-) ok i'll stick with the divider then. thanks nik90 & mihir :-)
[17:47] <mihir> nik90: no issues, g :)
[17:47] <elopio> nik90: one more question. Isn't there a more readable way to set the alarm days?
[17:47] <elopio> that hardcoded 96 is hard to understand.
[17:47] <mihir> nik90: some fixed AP for day view , https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-calendar-dev/ubuntu-calendar-app/ViewRedisign/+merge/234680
[17:48] <mihir> nik90: i had to remove two APs as it was using multiple days in Dayview and we have removed it from day view now.
[17:48] <nik90> ok
[17:49] <nik90> elopio: I will try to fix that too
[17:49] <nik90> elopio: I think I could do "Alarm.Sunday" + "Alarm.Monday"..not sure
[17:50] <elopio> nik90: the docs are not clear. I thought it would be an xor or something. I will report a bug for the toolkit.
[17:50] <nik90> yup
[17:50] <nik90> thnx
[18:02] <nik90> mihir: I fixed it https://imgur.com/m2TVTxL
[18:02] <nik90> mihir: haven't pushed it yet
[18:02]  * mihir looks at screenshot
[18:04] <nik90> DanChapman: btw your desktop gtk theme goes so well with the ubuntu touch apps :)
[18:04] <mihir> nik90: looks cool , you added margin to left too ?
[18:05] <nik90> mihir: I rewrote HeaderDateComponent since it was an absolute mess :/
[18:05] <mihir> nik90: ohhhh great, can you pastebin ?
[18:05] <nik90> mihir: work-in-progress
[18:05] <nik90> mihir: let me clean it a bit and pastebin it
[18:05] <mihir> nik90: okay :)
[18:05] <mihir> i am left with Weekview test..:)
[18:06] <mihir> nik90: just a min.you re-writing it
[18:06] <mihir> then i should wait
[18:06] <nik90> :)
[18:06] <nik90> give me 5 mins
[18:07] <mihir> if you're rewriting then*
[18:08] <mihir> nik90: no issues :)
[18:08] <elopio> nik90: this might be related somehow: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1370649
[18:09] <nik90> elopio: I will have to confirm that with a sample app.
[18:18] <nik90> mihir: pushed
[18:19]  * mihir does pull a branch 
[18:19] <mihir> nik90: anything you can see except the AP ?
[18:20] <nik90> mihir: ?
[18:20] <nik90> mihir: you mean other fixes?
[18:20] <mihir> hmm yup , considering this branch
[18:22] <nik90> mihir: I will have to do a code review to say
[18:23] <nik90> mihir: feature wise I think we are done
[18:23] <mihir> nik90: okay..:)
[18:28] <nik90> mihir: Going to have dinner...bb in 20-30 mins
[18:29] <mihir> nik90: okay no issues, if go to bed, i'll update you here :)
[18:29] <nik90> ok
[19:05] <mihir> nik90: i pushed all the changes
[19:05] <mihir> nik90: i ran all the tests on my machine and it passes all :)
[19:05] <nik90> mihir: there was a jenkins failure due to some pep8 errors
[19:05] <nik90> mihir: I think the tests otherwise passm
[19:06] <nik90> mihir: I will wait a few minutes to check again
[19:06] <mihir> nik90: you triggered Jenkins on our branch ?
[19:06] <nik90> mihir: i marked our branch to "needs review" which triggered jenkins
[19:06] <mihir> nik90: okay , great..
[19:07] <mihir> i did autopep8 , might have forgot in one or two file
[19:08] <mihir> nik90: okay , it was before my last commit, i guess it should pass now
[19:08] <nik90> ok
[19:08]  * mihir waits Jenkins to trigger before he goes to bed :D
[19:09] <mihir> nik90: i am doing autoident in all files , and push agian now , so that we get good code format
[19:09] <nik90> mihir: do it only in the files we changed already
[19:09] <nik90> mihir: otherwise the code diff will be huge
[19:09] <mihir> nik90: hmm okay
[19:11] <jenna_> so now i'm unable to create a click target thingy mabob in the ubuntu-sdk.  it seems there's not enough room on my filesystem, even though i have 6TB here.  any way to tell it to put it in my home directory?
[19:11] <jenna_> http://pastebin.com/SD7HgxY2
[19:17] <mihir> nik90: done , there were only few changes in 3 files only
[19:17] <nik90> mihir: cool thnx
[19:18] <mihir> nik90: it passed :d
[19:18] <nik90> mihir: woohoo
[19:19]  * mihir hugs nik90 :D
[19:19] <nik90> mihir: nice work mate
[19:19] <nik90> mihir: most likely it should be merged tomorrow after which we can request popey to push calendar app update to the store
[19:20] <mihir> nik90: thanks a lot, it wouldn't have been possible without your help & most imp suggestions.
[19:20] <mihir> nik90: sure no issues , lets popey take a look and we'll fix some of issues after it gets merge :)
[19:20] <nik90> yw :) calendar is looking grt
[19:20] <nik90> mihir: btw next up on the list is EventDetails :-)
[19:20] <mihir> yup , nik90 , you reading my mind ?
[19:20] <mihir> :-o
[19:20] <nik90> mihir: It won't be as major as this one, but just some nice little design tweaks would be nice
[19:21] <nik90> hehe
[19:22] <mihir> see , nik90 http://imgur.com/j4daWed
[19:23] <mihir> ehhehe
[19:23] <nik90> lol
[19:23] <mihir> is your main machine utopic ?
[19:23] <mihir> i am planning to install after first beta release which is 25th , and can get rid of Vm
[19:24] <nik90> mihir: nope. I develop now entirely on Trusty
[19:24] <nik90> mihir: only for running AP tests I use VM. but even that I have replaced mostly with a LXC container
[19:24] <mihir> nik90: ohh we got all dependecy back ? i didn't know that
[19:24] <mihir> :|
[19:24] <mihir> i mean compatibiltiy on trusty ?
[19:24] <mihir> nik90: okay
[19:25] <mihir> nik90:  for fyi , can we first merge the Small MR and then this one ?
[19:25] <mihir> i am not sure , we won't get much conflicts thought but still
[19:26] <nik90> mihir: your small MP will go in tonight
[19:26] <mihir> \m/
[19:26] <mihir> okay , thanks..have good night :)
[19:26] <nik90> mihir: as for trusty, I run and test apps on emulator
[19:26] <nik90> gud nite
[19:26] <ahoneybun> mhall119: ping
[19:26] <mihir> nik90: got it , i will ping you when i do that as soon as i get some free time.
[19:27] <nik90> sure
[19:27] <nik90> mihir: now go sleep
[19:51] <jenna> so i'm stuck in the ubuntu-sdk qt-creator.  i have a tablet setup with ubuntu-touch and i managed to install a click/kit/whatever its called.  but i still cant get to this screen   http://developer.ubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/autocreate_device_kit-700x399.png
[19:52] <jenna> instead of this, i see a message that my tablet doesnt have network connection, when it actually does.
[19:52] <jenna> any clues how to fix it?
[19:59] <vadi> My Qt5 application is still getting its own menu while having another one shown by the global appmenu. How can I have it not show its own menu?
[20:03] <Letozaf> balloons, hi
[20:03] <jenna> there's also a lot of settings here in teh device screen that seem to not work.  is there a guide somewhere to setting this up so the ubuntu-sdk will talk to my tablet and d osomethnig useful?
[20:11] <balloons> Letozaf, hello
[20:12] <Letozaf> balloons, I fixed the shorts app tests to work with the new header
[20:13] <Letozaf> balloons, should I push it in the same branch I branched from ?
[20:13] <balloons> Letozaf, ohh that's great!
[20:14] <tgm4883> Is the SDK in a weird state right now or is it my 14.04 system? I can't install the SDK because "Depends: gdb (= 7.7-0ubuntu3) but 7.7-0ubuntu3.1 is to be installed"
[20:14] <balloons> Letozaf, since you can't push to the same one, push to lp:~ubuntu-rssreader-dev/ubuntu-rssreader-app/ubuntu-rssreader-app-new-header-temp
[20:14] <balloons> and we can swap the mp https://code.launchpad.net/~mrqtros/ubuntu-rssreader-app/ubuntu-rssreader-app-new-header-temp/+merge/232812 to use the new branch k?
[20:15] <Letozaf> balloons, ok
[20:19] <Letozaf> balloons, I pushed it
[20:26] <balloons> on it
[20:27] <balloons> Letozaf, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-rssreader-dev/ubuntu-rssreader-app/ubuntu-rssreader-app-new-header-temp/+merge/235046
[20:28] <balloons> thanks for working on that :-)
[20:28] <Letozaf> balloons, yw
[20:30] <mzanetti> rpadovani: heh, I've added some difficulty option now... you might try again to play the first level :D
[20:34] <tgm4883> So I installed the SDK and it blew up when creating a kit. Either the instructions are bad and I didn't understand what it was trying to do, or I'm already failing at app development :/
[20:36] <tgm4883> Are you only allowed to build kits for whatever ubuntu version you are on or previous versions?
[20:40] <tgm4883> Akiva-Thinkpad!
[20:40] <Akiva-Thinkpad> tgm4883, !!!!
[20:40] <Akiva-Thinkpad> hows it going?
[20:40] <tgm4883> Akiva-Thinkpad: sorry, I just came here from the reddit thread
[20:40] <Akiva-Thinkpad> yep!
[20:41] <tgm4883> the one where you told everyone to come here and ping you, so I do have a question
[20:41] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Great!
[20:41] <tgm4883> Are you only allowed to build kits for whatever ubuntu version you are on or previous versions?
[20:41] <tgm4883> I ran into an issue on my 14.04 system trying to make a 14.10 kit
[20:41] <tgm4883> it blew up :/
[20:41] <Akiva-Thinkpad> tgm4883, don't worry about the kits :P
[20:41] <tgm4883> heh ok
[20:41] <Akiva-Thinkpad> skip it altogether
[20:41] <Akiva-Thinkpad> and just use the default build
[20:42] <tgm4883> sounds good
[20:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I think I should file a bug to their team
[20:42] <tgm4883> I didn't know I could just cancel out of that
[20:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> because when you talk about these kits, many people really have not a clue what these are for
[20:42] <tgm4883> I had to downgrade a package to install the SDK as well
[20:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Are they for running apps on your desktop?
[20:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> are they for instlaling?
[20:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> tgm4883, yah this is great feedback
[20:43] <Akiva-Thinkpad> :P
[20:43]  * Akiva-Thinkpad goes to file a bug
[20:43] <tgm4883> I figured the kits were for testing on other distros/arch
[20:43] <Akiva-Thinkpad> tgm4883, heh yep
[20:44] <Akiva-Thinkpad> tgm4883, so I take it you are one of the folks with a good deal of experience with programming already?
[20:44] <tgm4883> I know a bit of Python
[20:44] <tgm4883> I'm one of the main developers behind Mythbuntu
[20:44] <Akiva-Thinkpad> tgm4883, ah
[20:44] <Akiva-Thinkpad> tgm4883, Oh really?!
[20:44] <Akiva-Thinkpad> wow; thanks for all your work on that; mythbuntu is great
[20:45] <tgm4883> yep. So I'd like to try recreating an old scope that I did for MythTV stuff
[20:45] <Akiva-Thinkpad> tgm4883, its good that you came here when you did. RTM is at the end of the month, and there is a scramble to get all these bugs settled
[20:46] <tgm4883> when I initially created the scope, there was no SDK, and it was just trial and error using the video scope created by david calle(sp?)
[20:46]  * Akiva-Thinkpad is eating yoghurt
[20:46] <Akiva-Thinkpad> tgm4883, heh; good memories of your first project, eh?
[20:47] <tgm4883> heh, that wasn't my first project, but it was my first time working on something that wasn't standalone
[20:47] <Akiva-Thinkpad> that reminds me of writing a python plugin without understanding how functions work.
[20:47] <Akiva-Thinkpad> It was hard, but I was well successful
[20:47] <tgm4883> also, maybe I can revive the ubuntu tv test card app that has been sitting in review for a few years now
[20:48] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ubuntu TV will be seeing development last out of the suite
[20:48] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Mobile > Tablet > Desktop > TV
[20:48] <Akiva-Thinkpad> afaik
[20:48] <tgm4883> Yea, it's an app for calibrating TV's, so it works well for mythbuntu as well
[20:49]  * Akiva-Thinkpad is eating yoghurt for chopsticks
[20:51] <Akiva-Thinkpad> okay finished
[20:56] <ahoneybun> hey Akiva-Thinkpad
[20:57] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahoneybun, hey!
[20:57] <Akiva-Thinkpad> hows it going?
[20:57] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahoneybun, did you solve the ubuntu.components issue?
[20:58] <ahoneybun> Akiva-Thinkpad: no I'm going to try to work on some differnt apps
[20:59] <ahoneybun> Akiva-Thinkpad: on some real hardware soon (hint: nexus 4)
[20:59] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ohhh nice!
[20:59] <Akiva-Thinkpad> did you hear that the mx4 is going to be used for the Ubuntu Touch?
[20:59] <ahoneybun> yep bought it on ebay
[20:59] <Akiva-Thinkpad> nice!
[21:00] <ahoneybun> yea Akiva-Thinkpad I was trying to see what bands it uses so I could use it in the US
[21:01] <vadi> My Qt5 application is still getting its own menu while having another one shown by the global appmenu. How can I have it not show its own menu?
[21:02] <Akiva-Thinkpad> vadi, screenshot?
[21:03] <ahoneybun> I think 132.50 is a great price Akiva-Thinkpad
[21:03] <vadi> http://i.imgur.com/yKO6OLQ.png
[21:03] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahoneybun, yes
[21:03] <Akiva-Thinkpad> tis
[21:03] <ahoneybun> just a few scratches
[21:03] <Akiva-Thinkpad> vadi, what the heck...?
[21:04] <ahoneybun> I put my current phone for sale on glyde
[21:04] <Akiva-Thinkpad> vadi, is this a qt application that you built from the templates?
[21:04] <vadi> Don't know what the templates are
[21:04] <Akiva-Thinkpad> vadi, or are you using pyqt or something?
[21:04] <vadi> No, C++
[21:04] <Akiva-Thinkpad> vadi, do you have team viewer?
[21:04] <vadi> Yeah sure
[21:04] <Akiva-Thinkpad> vadi, okay I'll give you my address
[21:04] <Akiva-Thinkpad> sec
[21:05] <Akiva-Thinkpad> my internet connection is hopefully quick enough
[21:06] <Akiva-Thinkpad> vadi, well anyways, what I mean is qtcreator>new Project > Applications > Qt Widgets application
[21:07] <Akiva-Thinkpad> that gives you a template;
[21:07] <vadi> that wasn't used, this is a 6 year old Qt app that was ported from Qt4
[21:07] <Akiva-Thinkpad> should have an integrated menu bar
[21:07] <Akiva-Thinkpad> vadi, oh interesting...
[21:07] <Akiva-Thinkpad> vadi, which app?
[21:07] <vadi> Mudlet
[21:07] <Akiva-Thinkpad> sec
[21:08] <vadi> The version in repos is still Qt4, that works fine with the appmenu
[21:08] <Akiva-Thinkpad> vadi, and you upgraded the libraries to qt5, and no dice?
[21:08] <vadi> https://github.com/Mudlet/Mudlet is qt5, along with http://www.mudlet.org/download/mudlet-3.0.0-alpha-linux-x64-installer.run for an installer
[21:10] <Akiva-Thinkpad> short answer is that I do not know. I am installing git so maybe i'll try it out in a bit
[21:11] <vadi> Are you the creator of qt5-globalmenu?
[21:11] <Akiva-Thinkpad> vadi, nope; I wish :P
[21:11] <vadi> ok
[21:11] <Akiva-Thinkpad> vadi, does it work with the hud still?
[21:12] <vadi> Yeah
[21:12] <vadi> Appmenu is doing its job as intended. It's just that the Qt app isn't getting its menu removed/
[21:12] <vadi> I will look for developer documentation for appmenu later
[21:12] <Akiva-Thinkpad> vadi, well thats good at least
[21:14] <Akiva-Thinkpad> vadi, hmm seems like a cute game
[21:14] <Akiva-Thinkpad> wonder if you could port it to qml :P
[21:15] <vadi> It's a game client, for many games.
[21:15] <vadi> I don't see the point of doing that, but integrating QML might be nice. It was pretty limited last time I looked at it and wasn't fit for the job though
[21:15] <Akiva-Thinkpad> qml?
[21:16] <Akiva-Thinkpad> you can do anything in qml pretty much
[21:16] <Akiva-Thinkpad> they just simplify the experience though when working with ui sort of things
[21:16] <vadi> Yeah except integrate it into other apps for custom scripting
[21:17] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Well if you did it qml, it would probably be for the phone at that point so~
[21:29] <popey> jdstrand: could you please review https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/1080/  /cc balloons
[21:35] <jdstrand> balloons: why are you using the debug policy group?
[21:35] <jdstrand> balloons: and the qtc_device_debughelper.py as the interpreter?
[21:36] <jdstrand> balloons: these should only be used for debugging situations and not for production code
[21:58] <popey> jdstrand: wondering if this is to gather technical details as it's the feedback app the beta testers will use?
[22:00] <jdstrand> idk
[22:00] <jdstrand> it looks like what the sdk does for debugging an app