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tsdgeosCimi: can you top approve https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/bug1365929/+merge/234795 ? seems autopilot tests are all broken again in CI for no reason07:45
Cimitsdgeos, done07:46
tsdgeosCimi: you're going to the office today?07:48
Cimitsdgeos, yup07:48
tsdgeosCimi: can you please ask them to think on the transitions for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1368670 ?07:48
Cimitsdgeos, having my coffee now (much better at home than there :P)07:48
ubot5Launchpad bug 1368670 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "[Dash] Simplify 'Manage Dash' area" [Critical,Triaged]07:48
Cimitsdgeos, transitions?07:48
Cimitsdgeos, for the back button?07:49
tsdgeosand for open07:49
tsdgeosDash overview has an amazing open transition07:49
Cimitsdgeos, open is like a reply command in messages07:49
tsdgeoswhere the current dash item just fades into the dash item in the list07:49
Cimitsdgeos, I believe will be like in contacts07:49
tsdgeosthiis can't happen here07:49
Cimitsdgeos, you pull the list from the bottom07:49
tsdgeosso i want them to tell me what needs to happen in both open and close07:49
Cimitsdgeos, that bottom edge will probably go away after RTM anyway07:50
Cimitsdgeos, there are other plans...07:50
tsdgeosgood for after RTM07:50
tsdgeosi thought we all cared for before RTM07:51
Cimitsdgeos, yes we do07:51
tsdgeosbecause if something is unusable it has to be fixed07:51
tsdgeosthen let's make not things that are unusable07:51
Cimitsdgeos, but this is not the final bottom swipe07:51
Cimitsdgeos, this will eventually go as a menu button in the header07:51
Cimitsdgeos, and bottom edge will probably contain feed customisation07:51
tsdgeoseventually is not now :)07:51
tsdgeosi want to know what we do now07:52
Cimitsdgeos, two stages07:52
Cimitsdgeos, 1st, now, we have a list of feeds in the bottom edge07:52
Cimitsdgeos, 2nd, we move this list as a button on the header07:52
Cimitsdgeos, and the bottom edge will become something else, related to feed customisation07:52
Cimitsdgeos, for rtm we care of 107:53
tsdgeosso we need to have proper transitions for 107:53
tsdgeosdon't we?07:53
Cimitsdgeos, I think will be like in contacts/messaging07:53
Cimitsdgeos, you pull the listview over the dash07:54
Cimiway simpler than now07:54
tsdgeosget them to confirm and write it on the bug or somewhere pelase07:54
Cimitsdgeos, ok07:55
Cimitsdgeos, which branches to review today?08:06
Cimitsdgeos, mzanetti we have a long list of branches, we need to land land land08:07
tsdgeoson it i guess :d08:07
mzanettiCimi: then go ahead and test silo 1108:07
mzanettiand fix the issues in there :P08:07
Cimiafk for a bit, shower08:08
mzanetti:D08:08
mzanettihah! I think my N4 is recovering! It flashes red again after being plugged into the wall charger for >10 hours now08:11
tsdgeos\o/08:13
tsdgeosCimi: for the image gallery click thing, please double check if we can kill the ¿duplicated? FIXME in qml/Dash/Previews/PreviewImageGallery.qml i tried yesterday and it seems we don't need it08:18
mzanettidednick: good morning08:33
mzanettidednick: testing silo11, indicators don't seem to connect08:33
tsdgeosmarcustomlinson: https://code.launchpad.net/~marcustomlinson/unity8/handle_null_preview/+merge/234054/comments/57426708:39
mzanettidednick: ok... have to drop the indicator-polishing branch from the silo then08:49
Cimitsdgeos, having look soon, going to the office in a bit08:50
tsdgeosok08:50
Cimipacking devices...08:50
mzanettiCimi: please unapprove this: I don't have permissions: https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/ubuntu-settings-components/indicator-polishing/+merge/22908308:52
Cimimzanetti, why?08:53
mzanettibecause it breaks the indicators08:54
tsdgeosdednick: are you please taking care of https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/unity8/stop-using-statusicon/+merge/234502 ?08:55
Cimimzanetti, but this morning we are supposed to merge the indicators together09:04
dednickmzanetti: erm. hm. that's weird09:11
mzanettiCimi: ?09:12
tsdgeosdednick: https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/post-prompts-in-prompts-tweaks/+merge/233377 ?09:12
Cimimzanetti, nick has a branch to go with that09:12
Cimimzanetti, currently need fixing09:12
dednickCimi: mzanetti is testing the silo09:13
dednickmzanetti: i'm actually on holiday today. i'll be out for a bit, then can try take a look09:13
mzanettiCimi: ah... that might be the issue09:13
mzanettiCimi: seems the other branch is not in the same silo09:13
Cimimzanetti, ok09:13
mzanettidednick: ^09:13
mzanettidednick: so maybe nothing you need to fix.09:13
dednicktsdgeos: it was approved but not top approved because it's failing CI09:14
tsdgeosautopilot is broken09:14
tsdgeosstupid autopilot and stupid CI randomly break all the time09:14
dednicktsdgeos: yeh. i've approved it already09:14
dednicktop i mean09:14
dednickmzanetti: supposedly all the required branches are in the silo09:17
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dednickmzanetti: can confirm it's not connecting :/09:21
dednicki mean, i confirm09:21
dednickdamnit. was working a couple of days ago09:22
mzanettidednick: same here with my lifecycle fixes branch... i could swear it was working when we reviewed it09:23
mzanettihad to go from the silo too09:23
dednickmzanetti: hm. looks like my unity8 polishing branch isn't part of the silo09:23
mzanettiyeah... that's what cimi told me before too09:23
dednickfile:///usr/share/unity8//Panel/Indicators/DefaultIndicatorPage.qml:177:5: Type MenuItemFactory unavailable09:23
dednickfile:///usr/share/unity8//Panel/Indicators/MenuItemFactory.qml:454:9: Type MessageMenuItemFactory unavailable09:23
dednickfile:///usr/share/unity8//Panel/Indicators/MessageMenuItemFactory.qml:81:13: Menus.SimpleTextMessageMenu is not a type09:23
dednickShouldn't be looking for SimpleTextMessageMenu09:24
dednicki gota run. be back in 3009:24
tsdgeosMacSlow: so no filtering at all for notification length?09:25
tsdgeosseems you went from 2 lines to "any lines"09:25
tsdgeos:D09:25
Cimitsdgeos, in https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/croppedImageMinimumSourceSize/+merge/23331909:33
Cimiwhen we do visible: false09:33
Cimiwhat brings it back to true?09:33
mzanettitsdgeos: when you have some time, may I ask you to give this one a look? https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/launcher-dont-hide-on-dash/+merge/23303809:33
tsdgeosdon't read my mind ;)09:35
tsdgeosmzanetti: the test fails09:35
tsdgeosmay not be your fault though09:35
tsdgeoslet's see trunk09:35
MacSlowtsdgeos, I don't know really know what can come through with these class-2 sms09:35
tsdgeosMacSlow: sure but it was 10 for snap notifications and 2 for rest, now is infinite for any?09:36
MacSlowtsdgeos, since nobody complained (or filed bugs) once the 10-line limit was in place, I initially thought "Just go back to this."09:36
tsdgeosMacSlow: honestly i don't know enought about the subject to give a better opinion, is there anyone else we should talk to?09:38
MacSlowtsdgeos, I was hoping to get more input from Design or the dialer-app folks.09:39
tsdgeosMacSlow: ping them to death :D09:39
MacSlowtsdgeos, I too know nothing about the sms-standard09:39
MacSlowtsdgeos, well there was a lengthy eMail-thread yesterday with no real output in that regard... so I assume they still try to figure it out.09:41
tsdgeosCimi: in artImage?09:41
tsdgeosMacSlow: ok09:41
tsdgeosmzanetti: test also fails in master, not your dowin09:43
tsdgeosdoing09:43
MacSlowtsdgeos, looks like even the folks working on the ofono-bit for sms don't know for sure the limits. So for the time being 2-line limit for non-snap-decision and unlimited for snap-decisions sounds like the best compromise.09:48
tsdgeosMacSlow: who creates snap-decisisons?09:49
tsdgeoscan "random apps" do?09:49
MacSlowtsdgeos, no... confined/regular apps can't do that09:49
tsdgeosso it's mainly "us"09:49
MacSlowtsdgeos, correct09:49
tsdgeoslooks the best compromise yes09:49
tsdgeosif you do that i'll approve09:49
Cimitsdgeos, for example09:50
tsdgeosCimi: noone, artImage is always non visible since it's part of a shape09:50
Cimiok09:50
Cimitsdgeos, cool09:51
Cimitsdgeos, I don't have time to test the branch widely, did you? works well?09:51
tsdgeosworks for me yes09:52
tsdgeosbut honestly somebody should :D09:52
tsdgeostest it moar09:52
Cimitsdgeos, wmall comment09:53
Cimismall09:53
tsdgeosahhhhhhh09:54
tsdgeosi think i know why the autopilot tests are broken09:54
tsdgeosthe damn notification about sd thing09:54
tsdgeosdid that get fixed?09:54
Cimitsdgeos, we want to have cards with mascot without the ubuntushape10:00
tsdgeosCimi: yes10:06
tsdgeosCimi: artImage is not the mascot10:06
tsdgeosMacSlow: does https://code.launchpad.net/~macslow/unity8/synchronous-notification/+merge/229059 have a bug or something? what do i try?10:37
MacSlowtsdgeos, no it's a pure feature... you can either test it with the icon-value.py Python-script from the corresponding lp:~macslow/unity-notifications/synchronous-notification branch or install lp:~macslow/indicator-sound/synchronous-notification on your device and use the volume-buttons10:39
tsdgeosMacSlow: i don't think we should accept new code without bugs associated to them at this point to be honest10:40
tsdgeosif the feature is so important that it needs to get in10:40
tsdgeosi want a critical bug marked as rtm10:40
tsdgeoswhat do others think?10:40
tsdgeos@unity: ↑10:40
mzanettitsdgeos: hah... I bet that's the easiest thing to get (the critical bug) :D10:41
mzanettitsdgeos: but I agree with you10:41
mzanettithis has to stop10:41
MacSlowtsdgeos, mzanetti: don't tell me10:41
tsdgeosMacSlow: who "asked" for this feature?10:41
mzanettibut in the end its kgunn to decide10:41
MacSlowmzanetti, true10:41
tsdgeoswell let's convince him10:42
tsdgeosper are post feature-everything10:42
mzanettiyeah, I told him yesterday already10:42
tsdgeoswe want new stuff, fine, let it be in critical bugs10:42
mzanettiand I think he had a talk with olli about it too10:42
MacSlowmzanetti, implicitly I did too :)10:42
tsdgeosi want a paper trail when people ask why we were adding features such late10:42
MacSlowwith kgunn not with olli10:42
mzanettiMacSlow: so again, who asked for this feature? and when?10:43
MacSlowmzanetti, design and pat10:43
MacSlowmzanetti, around last time in London10:44
mzanettitsdgeos: uh... I guess this is required for making the SIM pin unlock behave properly10:44
tsdgeosmzanetti: : is it? i think it's mainly for sound notifications, no?10:44
MacSlowmzanetti: synchronous-notification?! no... that's for the volume-button feedback10:45
mzanettiwell, atm we have to close the SIM pin dialog and reopen it10:45
mzanettiwhich kills the shaking animation for instance10:45
MacSlowmzanetti, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBhxf2iQK8o10:45
mzanettipreview 21... duuude :D10:46
MacSlowmzanetti, although the visuals are of course updates now... that screencast isn't the latest10:46
MacSlowmzanetti, what?10:46
MacSlowmzanetti, 21 is the volume one...10:47
* MacSlow looks again...10:47
MacSlowmaybe I miss-pasted10:47
mzanettinono... video is fine I guess10:47
MacSlowah ok10:47
mzanettiwas just wondering if the notifications have so many feature that you can actually get 21 videos out of it10:47
mzanettiI struggled with 1 for the right edge10:47
tsdgeosMacSlow: so https://code.launchpad.net/~macslow/indicator-sound/synchronous-notification/+merge/229061 ?10:48
MacSlowmzanetti, I started counting very early... just take a look at preview 1 :) btw... preview != feature10:48
MacSlowtsdgeos, yeah it's basically three branches all in all10:49
tsdgeosMacSlow: and who is reviewing indicator-sound and the notifications one10:49
tsdgeos?10:49
MacSlowtsdgeos, dednick would be the one for indicator-sound I guess10:50
tsdgeosMacSlow: then get him to do it, and address tedg's question too10:50
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tsdgeosCimi: answered/addressed comments in https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/category_view_invisible_in_preview_mode/+merge/23184411:17
CimiTrevinho, c'e' un modo per disabilitare le gestures da unity?11:25
Cimimouse11:25
Cimimi apre la dash con due dita :'(((11:25
Cimio alt tab11:26
facundobatistaHolas11:26
tsdgeosMacSlow|lunch: please nominate someone to review https://code.launchpad.net/~macslow/unity8/swipe-dismiss-snap-decisions/+merge/23334711:40
Guest35270MacSlow|lunch: things are changing quickly for sure, its fine to work on the vol notif, but those guys are correct in that its not top priority11:55
Guest35270https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/123263311:55
ubot5Launchpad bug 1232633 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "[system] Changing volume doesn't show feedback on the phone" [High,In progress]11:55
Guest35270MacSlow|lunch: ...so for next 2-3 weeks priority should be on our "critical" + tag rtm1411:56
Guest35270it may mean, you don't get MP review love11:57
Guest35270on a "high"11:57
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MacSlowGuest35270, ok... but it's not like I only started on that just a few days ago... for notifications, due to their architecture, make me stretch between backend, frontend and apps, which makes keeping it all tight in a timely manner very hard.12:01
MacSlowGuest35270, incoming changes beyond certain dates don't help either12:02
Guest35270MacSlow: i hear you, we're all coping...12:29
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TrevinhoCimi: no... Mi pare di no, s'era discusso riguardo aggiungere la possibilità di disabilitarlo, ma per ora è hardcoded12:55
MacSlowTrevinho, dude... wrong channel I bet :)12:57
TrevinhoMacSlow: no, it's just that Cimi tempts me :D12:57
MacSlowTrevinho, don't give in... resist ;)12:58
tsdgeosmterry: what do you think of https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1370473 ?13:01
ubot5Launchpad bug 1370473 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "The edge demo with a pin is confusing" [Undecided,New]13:01
tsdgeosmterry: can you nominate someone to review https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8/tablet-security/+merge/234219 ?13:01
mterrytsdgeos, commented13:02
tsdgeosmterry: okidoki13:03
mterrytsdgeos, you mean can I volunteer someone to review it for me?  :)  Seems mean13:03
tsdgeosmterry: well noone has voluteered by himself in almost a week and we need someone to review :D13:04
tsdgeosmterry: given we don't have Michał i'd appreciate if you know who you think would have more knowledge of the code to review it13:04
tsdgeosmterry: also i am wondering if we need to care for this at the moment13:05
tsdgeoswhere we are time pressed by the phone13:05
tsdgeosif this is tablet-only13:05
tsdgeosmterry: maybe we can shelve it to post rtm?13:05
mterrytsdgeos, one of the theoretical attacks there was actually a phone that plugs into a larger screen to switch to tablet mode (not even sure if that's possible right now, but just in case)13:06
mterrytsdgeos, so it's not just tablet changes13:06
tsdgeoshmpf13:06
tsdgeosok13:06
mterrytsdgeos, (get to locked-down emergency dialer, switch to tablet mode, dialer goes to sidestage and you are in session)13:07
mterrymzanetti, do you have time to review a branch?  https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8/tablet-security/+merge/23421913:08
mzanettimterry: I started to look at it... but seems a big one. not sure how fast I'll get to it13:09
mzanettimterry: but I'll put it on my todo13:09
mzanettimterry: the other, with the pasphrase design, I belive that breaks some SIM pin lock stuff13:09
mterrymzanetti, guh!  does it use retryText?13:10
mzanettimterry: yes13:12
mzanettimterry: well, not sure if it does already.. but its supposed to at least13:12
mzanettimterry: not sure where Wellark is with that though13:12
mterrymzanetti, I see...  I didn't see it being used in the code13:13
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Cimigreyback, is the word autosuggestion box13:42
Cimigreyback, it always counts for height13:42
greybackCimi: yeah? Ok, so OSK needs fixing to correctly calculate the visible height of the OSK13:43
greybacknice find13:43
Cimigreyback, it took me 5 mins to figure out, 2 hours to install the emulator :D13:44
Cimigreyback, thought the emulator was slower, is quite fast!13:44
greybackCimi: emulator? Don't you have phones?13:44
Cimigreyback, yes, but I hoped the emulator was slower to highlight the issue13:44
greybackCimi: so the autosuggest box idea is a guess, based on what you are seeing?13:46
Cimigreyback, if I disable the autosuggest and other features (simple keyboard), the blank area follows the osk13:47
greybackCimi: ok good13:47
Cimigreyback, if I enable the autosuggest, but in some cases is disabled (wifi password), i can see that when I close the keyboard, the blank area starts from 2-3 gu more, (where the autosuggestion box is, even if is invisible)13:48
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Cimigreyback, in oxide is still slow, but maybe we can do something different there13:48
greybackCimi: check out lp:ubuntu-keyboard qml/Keyboard.qml and the reportKeyboardVisibleRect() function13:49
Cimigreyback, sure13:49
Cimigreyback, would it be possible to anchor the keyboard to application height?13:49
Cimigreyback, that way the keyboard will disappear a bit more slowly, but the issue will be completely gone13:50
greybackCimi: possible yes. But resizing application windows is (1) slow and (2) not what every application wants13:50
Cimigreyback, oxide apparently does13:50
Cimigreyback, and is the worst case so far13:50
greybackCimi: I can't comment on how apps do things13:50
Cimigreyback, oxide does, if you try with here maps, you see how the controls on screen move on top when the osk pops in13:52
Cimigreyback, in this case, if the application developer can decide where to anchor the osk, it might be a great workaround13:53
greybackCimi: it's not possible right now13:53
tsdgeosmterry: i'm not sure i understand your reasoing on the LANGUAGE thing13:55
tsdgeosbut i see what you have done works13:55
mterrymzanetti, so you say to be careful about the API for lockscreen, but if the notification code doesn't use the properties I change, what would be the problem?  (were we waiting to hook up replyText once the backend provided it?)13:55
tsdgeosand have a reasoning13:55
tsdgeosso i think we can just approve it :D13:56
mterrytsdgeos, what about it doesn't make sense?13:56
mzanettimterry: yes13:56
tsdgeosmterry: it is not that it does not make sense, it's just a long sentence!13:56
mterrytsdgeos, heh13:56
tsdgeosmterry: also i'm pretty sure those worked at some point13:56
tsdgeossince we used to have that problem for some other test13:56
tsdgeosand got fixed13:56
mterrytsdgeos, huh...  I figured they got added for a reason, but following them through, it didn't seem to work13:57
tsdgeoscan't really remember now what was the test that failed without them13:57
Cimigreyback, indeed, in Keyboard.qml you can see that wordRibbon is always taken into account regardless is visible or not13:57
tsdgeoslet me check13:57
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greybackCimi: looking forward to your patch :)13:58
Cimigreyback, I will ping the maintainer :)13:58
greybackCimi: dude come on, you're almost there, just write the fix and submit13:59
tsdgeosah the time formatter test13:59
mterrytsdgeos, oh -- why were they working then without this change ...?14:01
tsdgeosmterry: because it works :D14:01
tsdgeosmterry: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/8365199/14:01
tsdgeosahh14:02
tsdgeosbut it has a14:02
tsdgeos        add_custom_target(${_test} env "LC_ALL=C" ${testCommand})14:02
Cimigreyback, it can be tricky, I have to ask them14:03
mterrytsdgeos, yeah.. just found that myself14:04
mterrytsdgeos, right *after* trying to set DEFAULT_PROPERTIES...14:04
tsdgeosmterry: want to do something regardging that? or should i just approve?14:04
mterrytsdgeos, err, rather PROPERTIES ENVIRONMENT14:04
mterrytsdgeos, I can try to clean that up14:05
tsdgeosmterry: great :)14:06
mterrytsdgeos, what is the output of your locale?14:14
mterryi.e. running 'locale'14:14
tsdgeosmterry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8365268/14:14
mterrytsdgeos, heh, in my en_US locale, the time test didn't fail, just wanted to test that my changes work14:14
mterrytsdgeos, ah turns out that bit of code doesn't go through add_qml_test anyway.  So I only removed the unnecessary set_test_property line but kept the manual env LC_ALL=C bit14:20
tsdgeosoki14:21
mterrytsdgeos, thanks!14:25
Cimipstolowski, do you know if any scope uses the zoomable image?14:25
pstolowskiCimi, dunno14:31
cwayneCimi: in preview?14:32
Cimicwayne, yes14:32
om26erHi! are these playback controls coming from Unity8 ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1370129/+attachment/4205411/+files/sound.png14:33
ubot5Launchpad bug 1370129 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "With music-app closed, the controls in the sound menu are dummy" [Undecided,New]14:33
tsdgeosjosharenson: so you said you had issues with unity8 on the desktop?14:49
josharensontsdgeos, yeah I can't seem to get the settings app to open15:00
josharensonits also taking a much longer amount of time than usual to launch the shell15:00
tsdgeosjosharenson: in the destkop from unity8?15:00
josharensonyes15:00
tsdgeoswe've never had that working afaik15:00
josharensonah15:00
* josharenson reads bug again15:01
tsdgeosor have we?15:01
tsdgeosjosharenson: wait wait, is it unity8 as the shell or unity8 run as app in another shell?15:01
josharensondoes the store work?15:01
josharensonas app15:01
josharensonso check out https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtmir/+bug/135456415:03
ubot5Launchpad bug 1354564 in unity8-desktop-session (Ubuntu) "Keyboard no longer works in Unity8 desktop session" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:03
josharensonand I'm trying to follow steps in #1315:03
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Cimicwayne, so?15:19
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alecuCimi: mzanetti: kgunn_: hi! in saviq's absence, who is coordinating landings in unity8? We got a fix for an annoying bug in Payments that we'd like to land soon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/136262217:57
ubot5Launchpad bug 1362622 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "When cancelling a purchase the progress bar doesn't disappear in the preview" [Critical,In progress]17:57
kgunn_alecu: so mzanetti has a silo up, do you have a reviewed/approved/tested branch ? or does it still need to go thru the review cycle ?18:01
alecukgunn_: dobey made the branch, I reviewed and tested on my mako with devel-proposed. Since it's a branch for unity8 saviq usually does a review too.18:02
mzanettialecu: ah ok, I'll put it on my todo18:03
alecukgunn_: mzanetti: I don't mind being added as lander and doing the testing of this feature on both devel-proposed and rtm18:03
mzanettialecu: ok. I'll put it into the next silo and let you know18:04
alecumzanetti: great, thanks.18:04
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josharensonwhat is the correct way to install unity-notifications?23:56
* josharenson trying make install like I should have before asking... doh23:57

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