| bluesabre | brainwash: updated my lp handle, so the ppa for lp 1320560 can now be found at https://launchpad.net/~bluesabre/+archive/ubuntu/lp1320560 | 02:26 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1320560 in xscreensaver (Ubuntu) "Removal of gdmflexiserver breaks user switching" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1320560 | 02:27 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: have you seen https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11160 already? guess we need to get that fixed before 14.10 goes final... | 09:28 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 11160 in General "Regression: No suspend on lid close" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 09:28 |
| ochosi | i mean having the fix upstream is not a big deal, we just need to either cherry-pick it for 14.10 or do a 1.4.1 release for xfpm in time | 09:30 |
| bluesabre | hey ochosi | 10:04 |
| ochosi | hey bluesabre | 10:04 |
| ochosi | was away for a few days, what'd i miss? | 10:04 |
| bluesabre | wb | 10:04 |
| bluesabre | didn't miss much, eric did releases, I uploaded | 10:05 |
| bluesabre | and now it seems I'm adding a patch for xfpm | 10:05 |
| ochosi | mhm | 10:05 |
| ochosi | yeah, sucks a bit that we overlooked that for 1.4 | 10:05 |
| ochosi | but great that you uploaded xfdesktop and xfpm | 10:06 |
| ochosi | saw you were able to close some bugreports with that | 10:06 |
| bluesabre | yup | 10:06 |
| bluesabre | there might be others too that I overlooked | 10:06 |
| ochosi | does the xfdeskop accountsservice patch still need fixing? | 10:06 |
| bluesabre | thats fixed (quite a while back) | 10:07 |
| ochosi | ah good, i wasn't sure, just saw some mention of it in the backog | 10:07 |
| ochosi | backlog | 10:07 |
| ochosi | anything else pressing on the agenda? | 10:07 |
| bluesabre | hm, might be another bug floating around in there based on the last comment, https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11165 | 10:08 |
| ochosi | (i gotta head to the office now, would be back in 30mins or so, but if there's something that needs immediate attention i can take a quick look now) | 10:08 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 11165 in General "Changing workspace don't change login screen" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 10:08 |
| bluesabre | nothing immediate to my knowledge | 10:09 |
| ochosi | hm right, that sounds like there are some cases where it indeed doesn't work as expected | 10:09 |
| ochosi | but nothing too dramatic, luckily | 10:10 |
| ochosi | btw, have you tested light-locker1.5 already? | 10:11 |
| bluesabre | I haven't | 10:11 |
| ochosi | (we can defer that until 14.10 has been released though, since it's not going to happen before 15.04) | 10:11 |
| bluesabre | also need to finish my gsettings patch to sit on top of 1.5 | 10:12 |
| ochosi | mm, yeah, that'd be nice | 10:12 |
| ochosi | that'll make 1.6 a really nice release | 10:12 |
| ochosi | ok, i'll cycle off now, bbiab | 10:13 |
| ochosi | (or would cycle away be more appropriate?) | 10:14 |
| bluesabre | :D | 10:14 |
| ochosi | back | 10:45 |
| ochosi | the 30mins was quite accurate then | 10:45 |
| bluesabre | wb, updated xfpm pushed | 11:02 |
| ochosi | wow, that was quick | 11:03 |
| ochosi | slickymasterWork: thanks for setting the bug status! | 11:32 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: changing ppa links.. meh | 12:17 |
| brainwash | did you read the latest comment? bug 1320560 | 12:18 |
| ubottu | bug 1320560 in xscreensaver (Ubuntu) "Removal of gdmflexiserver breaks user switching" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1320560 | 12:18 |
| slickymasterWork | np ochosi | 12:47 |
| knome | brainwash, one of the reasons people use PPA's at their own responsilibity... and one of the reasons we have the PPA's that are designed to be higher traffic under the xubuntu-dev team | 12:49 |
| brainwash | I don't understand | 12:52 |
| brainwash | he changed his lp account handle(?) | 12:52 |
| brainwash | https://launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis -> https://launchpad.net/~bluesabre | 12:52 |
| brainwash | no big deal actually :) | 12:54 |
| knome | brainwash, yes. | 12:54 |
| knome | no, it isn't. | 12:54 |
| knome | people who used his PPA's... well, they shouldn't have counted on them working forever anyway | 12:54 |
| elfy | ind panel crashing again | 16:30 |
| ochosi | any debug output? | 16:31 |
| elfy | and the window manager | 16:31 |
| elfy | not currently - when it does it again I can examine locally and do the gdb thingy - or add stack trace to a bug report | 16:32 |
| elfy | didn't think anyone would be about so just cancelled - which would be best the next time ochosi ? | 16:33 |
| ochosi | you can also check the logs | 16:33 |
| ochosi | does the whole panel crash or just the indicators? | 16:34 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Should still have the file in /var/crash/, no? | 16:34 |
| elfy | ochosi: just the ind's | 16:34 |
| elfy | Unit193: yes I know - but that's just the basic crash report | 16:34 |
| Unit193 | I'm not getting it right now, but checkrestart says a few things are outdated (just restarted xfdesktop and xfwm to see if I'd start getting it.) | 16:34 |
| elfy | rebooting it | 16:35 |
| elfy | ochosi: so I've got crash reports for ind panel and xfwm4 from that | 16:38 |
| ochosi | wanna post/paste that somewhere? | 16:38 |
| elfy | ochosi: so if I examine locally I can - run gdb session, same without downloading debug symbols or update crash report with fully symbolic stack trace | 16:42 |
| elfy | do you want one of those or just the report I have? | 16:42 |
| ochosi | let's start with what you have | 16:42 |
| ochosi | if that doesn't help at all, we can check gdb | 16:42 |
| elfy | ok - well I'll keep them here so can go back | 16:42 |
| elfy | yep | 16:42 |
| ochosi | but tbh i'm not very good at debugging with gdb :] | 16:43 |
| elfy | sounds like voodoo to me anyway :p | 16:43 |
| ochosi | so just to know the context, this indicator crash has just started to appear or has it been around forever in 14.10? | 16:44 |
| elfy | I got one the other day - then it was fine, then today got it again - just after I'd updated | 16:44 |
| elfy | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8366127/ | 16:44 |
| elfy | that's both crash logs - xfwm4 and the ind's | 16:45 |
| elfy | line 813 is ind'd | 16:45 |
| elfy | 's | 16:45 |
| ochosi | is that in a VM? | 16:46 |
| elfy | nope - that's this machine | 16:46 |
| ochosi | not very conclusive | 16:47 |
| ochosi | seems its both segfaults | 16:48 |
| Unit193 | Seems no -dbg packages, so. | 16:49 |
| elfy | ok | 16:50 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Why do we ship evince over evince-gtk? | 17:23 |
| brainwash | is evince-gtk something new? | 17:38 |
| Unit193 | Pretty sure it isn't. | 17:44 |
| brainwash | so, it would remove some gnome deps, do we want that? | 17:51 |
| Unit193 | Why wouldn't we? | 17:52 |
| brainwash | did you test it? | 17:55 |
| xubuntu92w | hi there, "Numix dark" is available as theme? | 17:55 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: Switched to it recently because evince got new hard deps, works for what I need. | 17:57 |
| Unit193 | xubuntu92w: Numix is the one we have. | 17:57 |
| xubuntu92w | Unit193: even in the new upcoming release? | 17:58 |
| brainwash | don't you have to pay for numix dark? | 17:58 |
| Unit193 | I believe you do, yeah. | 18:00 |
| xubuntu92w | how it's possible suggest to someone to add a dark theme in xfce? maybe numix dark version?! | 18:00 |
| xubuntu92w | brainwash: it's like the same package | 18:02 |
| xubuntu92w | - like | 18:02 |
| brainwash | which package? | 18:02 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: Do you have a specific objection then? | 18:03 |
| xubuntu92w | brainwash: https://launchpad.net/~numix/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/4174259/+listing-archive-extra | 18:04 |
| brainwash | Unit193: it conflicts with evince or? this could be a problem | 18:06 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: Of course it conflicts, it's "the same" package just without gnome deps. It provides /usr/bin/evince as well, so it'd have to. | 18:07 |
| brainwash | so xubu should depend on evince or evince-gtk, but seed the first one | 18:07 |
| brainwash | ehm, the second one | 18:07 |
| brainwash | :D | 18:07 |
| Unit193 | Hah, OK. I was going to ask your reasoning. :P I agree. | 18:08 |
| Unit193 | Well, recommend, but same difference. | 18:08 |
| brainwash | xubuntu92w: that's numix | 18:09 |
| knome | xubuntu92w, xubuntu can not include packages with proprietary software, or any software that requires you to pay a fee to get it | 18:09 |
| knome | xubuntu92w, it doesn't matter even if it was available for free somewhere; licensing terms are licensing terms, and we have to obey those | 18:10 |
| xubuntu92w | brainwash in the gtk3 folder there is also the dark theme | 18:10 |
| xubuntu92w | knome: it's like ardour | 18:11 |
| holstein | any developer is always welcome to address licensing, and make a project available to xubuntu/ubuntu | 18:11 |
| holstein | xubuntu92w: ardour *is* open source | 18:11 |
| xubuntu92w | even numix i suppose | 18:11 |
| holstein | even though, they sell a version.. the source is available, and its packaged | 18:11 |
| xubuntu92w | exactly | 18:12 |
| holstein | xubuntu92w: just check with the creators/maintaners and see if they comply.. its "easier" to get things in debian upstream.. thats where i would start | 18:12 |
| knome | as i said, it doesn't grant us including it in the repositories | 18:12 |
| xubuntu92w | numix is gpl | 18:12 |
| holstein | xubuntu92w: then show them how to get it in debian.. | 18:12 |
| knome | xubuntu92w, there's no point arguing. we can't include it as it is. | 18:13 |
| holstein | if its in debian, it'll just trickle in to ubuntu | 18:13 |
| holstein | yeah.. its not the ubuntu repos.. when it is, it can be considered | 18:13 |
| holstein | official flavors use the main repos as sources only.. | 18:13 |
| xubuntu92w | ok.. in my "/usr/share/themes/Numix/gtk-3.0/" there's gtk-dark.css | 18:14 |
| knome | xubuntu92w, that isn't the dark variant. | 18:15 |
| knome | xubuntu92w, the dark variant would have to have it's own directory | 18:15 |
| knome | xubuntu92w, the fact that some filename has the string "dark" implies nothing | 18:15 |
| xubuntu92w | Knome: well... now i've got it tnx | 18:16 |
| knome | if you want to use numix dark, you can pay for it, and use it with the instructions you'll get | 18:16 |
| xubuntu92w | knome: tnx; I messed up on the Numix site | 18:18 |
| knome | xubuntu92w, sure | 18:18 |
| xubuntu92w | knome: the 14.04.1 support the gtk3 themes? | 18:20 |
| knome | xubuntu92w, that's a question for the support channel #xubuntu, but yes, we've had gtk3 support in the themes we support for a long time | 18:21 |
| xubuntu92w | knome: so why thunar depends on gtk2? | 18:22 |
| GridCube | because its a gtk2 application? | 18:22 |
| knome | xubuntu92w, please ask on the main support channel, this channel is for development issues | 18:22 |
| xubuntu92w | gridcube: so, in the theme folder there are gtk2 and gtk3 instructions for the same theme?! | 18:25 |
| GridCube | xubuntu92w, ask knome said, please use the #xubuntu channel | 18:25 |
| * drc <action text>Sends the specifed action to all channels which you are currently on. | 18:47 | |
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