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simonsaysdiafHello. I was trying to help my friend fix his login issue, and I believe that I commented something or edited something in a way that00:56
simonsaysdiafbroke login completely. Previously the GUI login would be caught in a boot loop, but then i could get to the tty. Now when I go to the00:56
simonsaysdiaftty, it's just a hanging screen. there's a blinking cursor but I can't login or input text at all.00:56
xubuntu57whey, is anyone here? this is my first time on irc :)00:57
xubuntu57wi am on xubuntu for the last couple of hours :)00:57
xubuntu57wi have a problem with brightness, it's way to dark, i can hardly see this00:57
xubuntu57wcan someone help me somehow?00:58
ObrienDavexubuntu57w, trying to remember how to do that01:01
xubuntu57wObrienDave, i have found this01:02
xubuntu57whttp://askubuntu.com/questions/149054/how-to-change-lcd-brightness-from-command-line-or-via-script01:02
xubuntu57wit worked from the command line01:02
xubuntu57wthank you anyway01:02
xubuntu57w:)01:02
ObrienDaveok, cool, glad you found a solution. welcome to IRC and Xubuntu. come back here or #ubuntu if you have any more questions01:03
ObrienDavedang LOL01:03
simonsaysdiaflol01:03
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ObrienDavestill getting your logon issue worked on?01:05
simonsaysdiafyeah i think he's going to want me to just install fresh on another harddrive01:12
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xubuntu092Mid install on an old inspiron netbook. Anything I should know?04:48
Vampiприветики :)05:58
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LiquorAndelixirIIs there a problem with upgrading Xubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 now?  I've been putting off upgrading my 12.04 box, and now Apper shows me 'Distribution update available', but running 'sudo do-release-upgrade' gives me 'No new release found'12:49
IsololClean install is what I had to do, lot of the package lists are gone from 12.1012:50
knomeIsolol, that's not what the question was; it was about the LTS upgrade path to 14.04.12:51
IsololWell, if he can't upgrade, I bet he unknowlingly upgraded to 12.1012:51
IsololBecause I have seen it happen quite a few times.12:52
knomeLiquorAndelixir, what does "lsb_release -r" in a terminal output?12:52
slickymasterWorkLiquorAndelixir: can you please try: 'sudo do-release-upgrade -p'12:53
knomeIsolol, though "i've been putting off..." was said12:53
LiquorAndelixirI'm afraid I might have to do a clean install, but this is effectively my household server, and I don't remember how I got postfix working with maildirs12:54
LiquorAndelixir# lsb_release -r      outputs      Release:        12.0412:54
knomeLiquorAndelixir, did you try what slickymasterWork proposed?12:54
LiquorAndelixirYes, it still only gives 'no new release found'12:55
slickymasterWorkhmm, odd.12:56
slickymasterWorkthat command usually works12:56
knomeLiquorAndelixir, in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades, what's the value for Prompt= ?12:57
LiquorAndelixirPrompt=lts12:58
slickymasterWorkjust as a debug LiquorAndelixir, check to be sure 'update-manager-core' is installed. In terminal run: 'apt-cache policy update-manager-core'12:59
LiquorAndelixirupdate-manager-core:   Installed: 1:0.156.14.17   Candidate: 1:0.156.14.17   Version table:  *** 1:0.156.14.17 0         500 http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main i386 Packages         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status      1:0.156.14.5 0         500 http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu/ precise-security/main i386 Packages      1:0.156.14 0         500 http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu/ precise/ma13:01
LiquorAndelixirSorry about the line spam but I don't know what bits of that are significant.13:01
knomeLiquorAndelixir, have you run all the regular updates for your system?13:02
* LiquorAndelixir tries not to 'duh' the response -- Yes, all of them, regularly.13:03
LiquorAndelixirapt-get update shows nothing13:03
knomeok, i don't understand why you'd need to do this, but try to run 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d'13:03
knomehmm, right, are you aware that sudo apt-get update only updates the package lists, not upgrade the packages?13:03
bimbimhello13:03
knomeLiquorAndelixir, ^13:04
knomebimbim, hello13:04
bimbimdoes anybody know, does the iso support dm-crypt with LUKS by default or do i have to download other stuff13:04
bimbim?13:04
LiquorAndelixirkome, yes, but I show no packages needing update  - aptitude shows everything up to date.13:04
slickymasterWorkknome: won't the '-d' argument prompt for upgrading to 14.04 instead?13:05
knomeLiquorAndelixir, ok, then try the upgrader with the -d option13:05
slickymasterWorks/14.04/14.1013:05
knomeLiquorAndelixir, it will list a lot of 'precise' stuff first13:05
knomeLiquorAndelixir, then it should list a lot of 'trusty' stuff; make sure that happens13:05
LiquorAndelixirdo-release-upgrade -d is showing exactly the same 'No new release found'13:05
knomeslickymasterWork, 12.04->14.10 is not a valid upgrade path, so no13:05
* slickymasterWork knocks his head out13:06
LiquorAndelixirIs there any location where the upgrade manager looks at to determine what the current release is?13:06
LiquorAndelixirOr is the lsb-release already pulling that value?13:06
knomeLiquorAndelixir, we just checked that with lsb_release, and it looks correct13:07
knomeyep13:07
slickymasterWorkduh13:07
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knomeLiquorAndelixir, please run "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit" and paste us the url13:08
LiquorAndelixirI upgraded a netbook a couple of months ago, and had no problem with the upgrade, but that was with -d option.   OK, pastebinit tells me http://paste.ubuntu.com/8364936/13:10
knomeLiquorAndelixir, it might be irrelevant, but i'd try the main servers13:13
* LiquorAndelixir nods13:13
knomedo you know how to change that?13:13
slickymasterWorkLiquorAndelixir: The 'do-release-upgrade' tool checks the list of official Ubuntu mirrors before running an upgrade. but your sources list just show mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca as mirrors13:13
knomeonce you've done that, run "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" once more13:13
knomethen retry with "sudo do-release-upgrade"13:14
slickymasterWork^^^13:14
LiquorAndelixirOnly from the GUI, I don't remember the command line method.. but I can do that.13:14
knomeLiquorAndelixir, GUI is fine13:15
LiquorAndelixirKnome, it just takes a little longer :)13:16
knomeLiquorAndelixir, of course. no hurry :)13:16
LiquorAndelixirOk, knome, downloaded package lists, found 10 updates on the main server that weren't on csclub server yet, but do-release-upgrade is still showing no new release found.13:23
knomeLiquorAndelixir, and you upgraded the packages?13:23
knomeLiquorAndelixir, now what happens with the -p parameter?13:24
LiquorAndelixirStill the same13:24
knomeand -d?13:24
LiquorAndelixirSame -- and yes, I upgraded the packages while I was in the GUI13:24
slickymasterWorkLiquorAndelixir: can you please, once again, run "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit" and paste us the url13:25
slickymasterWorkjust to see if the changes you made were affected13:25
LiquorAndelixirOk, pastebinit shows me http://paste.ubuntu.com/8365006/13:26
slickymasterWorkit looks alright LiquorAndelixir13:28
slickymasterWorkwhat makes it even odder13:28
* LiquorAndelixir nods "I thought so. FWIW - I'm at work and using SSH to my box at home to check each item."13:28
slickymasterWorkthat's not releated to the issue your facing13:28
slickymasterWorks/your/you're13:29
LiquorAndelixir*nod* no, it's not -- but it does mean I can't put a CD in the drive.13:29
knomeLiquorAndelixir, what does "update-manager -d -c" do?13:29
knome(it should open the gui to begin with, but is it showing the upgrade then?13:30
LiquorAndelixirNope.. 'there are no packages to install' -- and that's where I was when I did the update packages and changed the source.13:31
* slickymasterWork scratches his head13:33
LiquorAndelixirDoubt if it's significant, but this is a 32 bit Atom machine, and update-manager is outputing debug messages:  (update-manager:27245): Gtk-WARNING **: /build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.4.2/./gtk/gtkliststore.c:851: Unable to convert from glong to gint13:34
slickymasterWorkLiquorAndelixir: can you try something?  Try reinstalling update manager and core: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall update-manager update-manager-core'13:36
LiquorAndelixirOk, doing that now13:36
LiquorAndelixirSlickymasterWork - reinstall done, no change seen.13:41
LiquorAndelixirOk, let me look at an alternative: Is there any way to use a package list from the current installation,  and keep my configuration files for squid and postfix, but do an otherwise clean install from DVD?13:43
knomeLiquorAndelixir, sure, booting from a DVD should show an "upgrade" option13:45
slickymasterWorkLiquorAndelixir: ^^^13:46
slickymasterWorkalso to maintaing your packages list and configuration files, see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748541&p=10765330#post1076533013:47
LiquorAndelixirOk, I'll DL and burn a DVD while I'm on my work line, and try that when I get home... though I don't seem to recall seeing that option when I did a reinstall on the 64 bit laptop:  It had sorta locked up because I was using the proprietary nvidia drivers and got a 'version mismatch' while it was on 12.04.13:49
LiquorAndelixirThanks for the attempt, and especially for the forum link - it looks like I'll have to wait until I get home to try either solution.13:53
slickymasterWorkLiquorAndelixir: good luck13:53
LiquorAndelixirTY, bye :)13:53
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gorzakhi all, is it exist a french chan of xubuntu ?15:08
holstein!fr | gorzak15:08
ubottugorzak: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.15:08
gorzakthanks am already on ubuntu-fr i go back15:09
xubuntu00wI'm wondering if I can get some help. I've just installed xubuntu I'm trying to download updates but the download speed is so slow ratherly 5kB per second I have a 25Mbs line15:52
xubuntu00wI'm in an office and wonder if it has anything to do with that? On windows 7 I had to disable autotuning on command line, on MAC I had to do some sudo commands on terminal I wonder if on xubuntu I need to do someth9ing similar?15:53
xanguaxubuntu00w: software center, edit, sources; change your mirror to the closest one you live or use the main ones15:54
drcxubuntu00w: ^^What xangua said...assuming you are not seeing a general slowness in your internet connection.15:55
xubuntu00wboth so slow internet connection and slow download speed15:56
drcSo the problem is slow internet connection, not slow updates ?15:56
xubuntu00wjust doing a google search took me a good minute or 215:56
drcHave you asked your work sysadmin about it?15:57
xubuntu00wI am the admin15:57
xubuntu00wI'm thinking if it has anything to do with being in an office environment ? So it's using up the bandwidth trying to detect other computers connected to the network? On MAC's to prevent this from happening you run the following commands on terminal: sudo bash -c "echo 'net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack=0' >> /etc/sysctl.conf" sudo bash -c "echo 'net.inet.tcp.recvspace=40960' >> /etc/sysctl.conf" sudo bash -c "echo 'net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=16:01
xubuntu00wOn windows you run the following the commands: netsh interface tcp set global autotuning=disabled16:02
xubuntu00wis there a similar command I can run on xubuntu?16:03
drcxubuntu00w: That's beyond my paygrade :(16:05
holsteinxubuntu00w: what are those commands facilitating on your network?16:06
xubuntu00wwhich ones?16:06
holstein"on MAC i had to do some sudo commands".. why? what is up with the network configuration?16:07
xubuntu00wyou run them on the individual MAC or PC desktop to prevent it from using up needless bandwidth in an office environment this is very important as there are so many computers in a network the whole bandwidth will be used up just with computers communicating with each other pointlessly16:09
xubuntu00wso I'm wondering if xubuntu has something similar because I believe this could be the root of my slow internet16:10
holsteinxubuntu00w: there should be no need of that16:10
holsteinxubuntu00w: i would simply do some ping tests. and file download speed tests from different locations..16:11
xubuntu00wok thanks16:12
slickymasterWorkxubuntu00w: take a look at  tcp_moderate_rcvbuf in  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man7/tcp.7.html16:12
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xubuntu33wHi!18:30
nomichi18:31
xubuntu33wWhich iso should I download?18:31
xubuntu33whttp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/ubuntu-cdimage/xubuntu/releases/trusty/release/18:31
nomicu got pentium18:31
nomic64 bit18:31
nomicto make desktop cd18:32
nomic 198 B 2014-07-25 01:5918:32
nomiciso xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso18:32
nomicwill only fit on DVD (now)18:32
xubuntu33wOk!18:32
nomicif your system -- it will be, 64 bit18:32
nomici386 = 32 bit18:32
nomici64 = 64 bit18:32
xubuntu33wAh ok!18:32
nomicthere used to be 'alternative install'18:32
nomicthere is only 1 type now18:32
nomicif you have a recent pentium -- get the one I posted18:33
nomiciso xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso18:33
holstein!mini18:33
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD18:33
holstein^ you can use that as the old "alternative".. kind of like a net install18:33
xubuntu33wI want to try out a new system.  You know! I always used Windows.18:33
nomicif you managed the trauma of going from win 7 to win 8 -- you will have no problem at all transferring to xubuntu18:34
holsteinxubuntu33w: try the normal iso.. you can run it live to "try it out"..18:34
nomicxubuntu is very 'regular' looking18:34
nomicevery issue is dealt with18:34
xubuntu33wholstein: Kannst du deutsch?18:34
holstein!de18:35
ubottuIn den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!18:35
holstein!nl18:35
ubottuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl18:35
xubuntu33wholstein: Achso!18:35
xubuntu33wnomic: Thanks!18:36
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knomemtift|afk, please do not use awaynicks18:40
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* RedDeath Back18:44
Unit193RedDeath: Is there really a need to /ame that?18:44
* drc <action text>Sends the specifed action to all channels which you are currently on.18:47
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mtiftknome: ok19:27
knomemtift, cheers19:27
livingdaylightHi19:43
livingdaylightI was looking to install gyazo and wondered whether one can adapt this to xubuntu?19:43
livingdaylighthttps://github.com/gyazo/Gyazo-for-Linux#19:43
livingdaylighthttps://github.com/gyazo/Gyazo-for-Linux19:43
holsteinlivingdaylight: there is a readme, and a "debian" directory.. thats where i would start19:44
holsteinprobably no need to "adapt" it, but just install it, following the instructions they give19:45
livingdaylightinstructions they give is open Unity dash19:46
livingdaylightlocate and drag gyazo icon into launcher19:46
holsteinlivingdaylight: not likely19:46
livingdaylightlauncher?19:46
holsteinlivingdaylight: there should be general instructions for linux19:47
Unit193Well huh, I've seen worse packaging.19:47
lbracherHi there! Do you know if it's possible to work xubuntu iso file in order to work over PXE boot like Ubuntu's netboot version? TIA!20:04
holstein!pxe20:04
Unit193Didn't I talk to you before?20:05
holsteinlbracher: whats the goal?20:05
holstein!mini20:05
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD20:05
holstein^thats like a net install type thing...20:05
koegsin the past i had a pxe-config which allowed to boot the live-iso20:05
koegsbut you had to unpack the iso20:06
lbracherkoegs, how can I do that exactly? I've already unpacked the iso file and I'm able to boot Ubuntu's netboot version. Do you know exacty what I need to do? I need to use memdisk?20:07
lbracherholstein, I'm trying to revive an old laptop. No CD or DVD units at all.20:07
lbracherNo USB booting also.20:07
holsteinlbracher: i would just take the hard drive to another machine, install, and put it back in the other machine20:09
lbracherholstein, thanks. I'll try that if I figure out I'm not able to do that by PXE. I'm also trying that for acquiring knowledge.20:11
koegslbracher: basically this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot20:11
lbracherkoegs, thank you! :)20:12
koegsor search for "ubuntu live iso pxe", there are plenty of tutorials20:12
lbracher:)20:12
holsteinlbracher: oh.. you *can* pxe boot.. nothing about xubuntu is preventing it.. its just that im sugesting its *much* easier, and probably faster to take a few screws out of a hard drive caddy..20:12
Unit193Hmm, I used cifs to pass the squashfs.20:13
lbracherholstein: no problem. I think the same. I'll give just one hour to the PXE booting effort. After this time, I'll use the screwdiver. Thanks! :)20:14
xubuntu076hello22:51
xubuntu076anyone out there?22:54
HundYes.22:54
xubuntu076hey22:55
HundYo22:55
xubuntu076i'm trying to install xubuntu on a very old desktop22:55
xubuntu076and I get an invisible cursor22:55
xubuntu076i can see it "works"22:56
xubuntu076but it's invisible22:56
xubuntu076any ideas?22:56
HundUhm.22:56
xubuntu076by "it works"22:57
HundMaybe, try running this in a terminal: "gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.cursor active false"22:57
xubuntu076i can move the mouse around22:57
xubuntu076oh ok22:57
xubuntu076it says "no such schema"23:01
xubuntu076i've noticed some other weird events like flickering of terminal background (from solid color to transparency, while i have solid color defined)23:01
xubuntu076this is an old desktop23:02
xubuntu076with amd athlon23:02
xubuntu0761Gb ram23:02
HundIt shouldnt be any problems.23:02
xubuntu076maybe i'm asking too much from this computer?23:02
HundNo.23:02
xubuntu076other example23:03
xubuntu076i open file manager23:03
xubuntu076icons do no appear unless selected23:03
xubuntu076my installation procedure is through a pendrive23:04
weld_xubuntu076, so you are still in the live session or have you already installed it?23:04
xubuntu076i have already installed it23:05
xubuntu076my graphics card is a GeForce223:05
xubuntu076i have a lot of experience with ubuntu23:06
xubuntu076on installing in blades and servers23:06
xubuntu076(recent machines)23:06
xubuntu076but i've never found any such problem23:07
xubuntu076i've used universal pen installer software23:08
xubuntu076on windows23:08
xubuntu076to do the installation23:08
xubuntu076i mean, to make the installation pendrive23:08
xubuntu076maybe that's a problem?23:08
xubuntu076the menu during installation was already wit some "graphical faults"23:09
xubuntu076(i also don't have internet connected during installation)23:09
xubuntu076i'm currently doing a reinstalation23:11
weld_xubuntu076, i would do an upgrade after installation and check if it's different the latest kernel23:11
weld_s/the/with the/23:11
xubuntu076ahahah, sed synthax made me laugh23:12
xubuntu076:)23:12
xubuntu076thanks man23:12
weld_xubuntu076, that's common in irc;)23:12
xubuntu076i've just taken the .iso using the .torrent23:13
xubuntu076this afternoon23:13
xubuntu07614.04.123:13
weld_xubuntu076, i was often lucky and after apt-get update && apt-get upgrade the system was usable23:13
weld_while it was broken before (graphic-wise023:13
weld_)23:13
xubuntu076K mate23:14
xubuntu076i'll try that out23:14
xubuntu076this seems to be graphics indeed23:14
xubuntu076it's gonna be tough to connect this baby to the internet23:24
xubuntu076modem is far away and i'm yet to buy a bigger ethernet cable....23:24
xubuntu076i'll have to test this tomorrow... ugh23:32
xubuntu076thanks for the advices weld_23:33
xubuntu076you think that apt-get update && apt-get upgrade will do the trick?23:33
weld_xubuntu076, no idea, you must be lucky ;)23:34
xubuntu076maybe a nvidia driver from their website can help too?23:34
weld_xubuntu076, i'm really not a driver expert but i think they don't provide any updated drivers for old cards at all, especially not for linux23:35
weld_but you'd have to check23:35
weld_last time i checked though they had some legacy version and one for newer cards23:36
xubuntu076in ubuntu there's a tool for that, right?23:38
xubuntu076for it to get you "the right driver"23:38

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