[00:56] <simonsaysdiaf> Hello. I was trying to help my friend fix his login issue, and I believe that I commented something or edited something in a way that
[00:56] <simonsaysdiaf> broke login completely. Previously the GUI login would be caught in a boot loop, but then i could get to the tty. Now when I go to the
[00:56] <simonsaysdiaf> tty, it's just a hanging screen. there's a blinking cursor but I can't login or input text at all.
[00:57] <xubuntu57w> hey, is anyone here? this is my first time on irc :)
[00:57] <xubuntu57w> i am on xubuntu for the last couple of hours :)
[00:57] <xubuntu57w> i have a problem with brightness, it's way to dark, i can hardly see this
[00:58] <xubuntu57w> can someone help me somehow?
[01:01] <ObrienDave> xubuntu57w, trying to remember how to do that
[01:02] <xubuntu57w> ObrienDave, i have found this
[01:02] <xubuntu57w> http://askubuntu.com/questions/149054/how-to-change-lcd-brightness-from-command-line-or-via-script
[01:02] <xubuntu57w> it worked from the command line
[01:02] <xubuntu57w> thank you anyway
[01:02] <xubuntu57w> :)
[01:03] <ObrienDave> ok, cool, glad you found a solution. welcome to IRC and Xubuntu. come back here or #ubuntu if you have any more questions
[01:03] <ObrienDave> dang LOL
[01:03] <simonsaysdiaf> lol
[01:05] <ObrienDave> still getting your logon issue worked on?
[01:12] <simonsaysdiaf> yeah i think he's going to want me to just install fresh on another harddrive
[04:48] <xubuntu092> Mid install on an old inspiron netbook. Anything I should know?
[05:58] <Vampi> приветики :)
[12:49] <LiquorAndelixir> IIs there a problem with upgrading Xubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 now?  I've been putting off upgrading my 12.04 box, and now Apper shows me 'Distribution update available', but running 'sudo do-release-upgrade' gives me 'No new release found'
[12:50] <Isolol> Clean install is what I had to do, lot of the package lists are gone from 12.10
[12:51] <knome> Isolol, that's not what the question was; it was about the LTS upgrade path to 14.04.
[12:51] <Isolol> Well, if he can't upgrade, I bet he unknowlingly upgraded to 12.10
[12:52] <Isolol> Because I have seen it happen quite a few times.
[12:52] <knome> LiquorAndelixir, what does "lsb_release -r" in a terminal output?
[12:53] <slickymasterWork> LiquorAndelixir: can you please try: 'sudo do-release-upgrade -p'
[12:53] <knome> Isolol, though "i've been putting off..." was said
[12:54] <LiquorAndelixir> I'm afraid I might have to do a clean install, but this is effectively my household server, and I don't remember how I got postfix working with maildirs
[12:54] <LiquorAndelixir> # lsb_release -r      outputs      Release:        12.04
[12:54] <knome> LiquorAndelixir, did you try what slickymasterWork proposed?
[12:55] <LiquorAndelixir> Yes, it still only gives 'no new release found'
[12:56] <slickymasterWork> hmm, odd.
[12:56] <slickymasterWork> that command usually works
[12:57] <knome> LiquorAndelixir, in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades, what's the value for Prompt= ?
[12:58] <LiquorAndelixir> Prompt=lts
[12:59] <slickymasterWork> just as a debug LiquorAndelixir, check to be sure 'update-manager-core' is installed. In terminal run: 'apt-cache policy update-manager-core'
[13:01] <LiquorAndelixir> update-manager-core:   Installed: 1:0.156.14.17   Candidate: 1:0.156.14.17   Version table:  *** 1:0.156.14.17 0         500 http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main i386 Packages         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status      1:0.156.14.5 0         500 http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu/ precise-security/main i386 Packages      1:0.156.14 0         500 http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu/ precise/ma
[13:01] <LiquorAndelixir> Sorry about the line spam but I don't know what bits of that are significant.
[13:02] <knome> LiquorAndelixir, have you run all the regular updates for your system?
[13:03]  * LiquorAndelixir tries not to 'duh' the response -- Yes, all of them, regularly.
[13:03] <LiquorAndelixir> apt-get update shows nothing
[13:03] <knome> ok, i don't understand why you'd need to do this, but try to run 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d'
[13:03] <knome> hmm, right, are you aware that sudo apt-get update only updates the package lists, not upgrade the packages?
[13:03] <bimbim> hello
[13:04] <knome> LiquorAndelixir, ^
[13:04] <knome> bimbim, hello
[13:04] <bimbim> does anybody know, does the iso support dm-crypt with LUKS by default or do i have to download other stuff
[13:04] <bimbim> ?
[13:04] <LiquorAndelixir> kome, yes, but I show no packages needing update  - aptitude shows everything up to date.
[13:05] <slickymasterWork> knome: won't the '-d' argument prompt for upgrading to 14.04 instead?
[13:05] <knome> LiquorAndelixir, ok, then try the upgrader with the -d option
[13:05] <slickymasterWork> s/14.04/14.10
[13:05] <knome> LiquorAndelixir, it will list a lot of 'precise' stuff first
[13:05] <knome> LiquorAndelixir, then it should list a lot of 'trusty' stuff; make sure that happens
[13:05] <LiquorAndelixir> do-release-upgrade -d is showing exactly the same 'No new release found'
[13:05] <knome> slickymasterWork, 12.04->14.10 is not a valid upgrade path, so no
[13:06]  * slickymasterWork knocks his head out
[13:06] <LiquorAndelixir> Is there any location where the upgrade manager looks at to determine what the current release is?
[13:06] <LiquorAndelixir> Or is the lsb-release already pulling that value?
[13:07] <knome> LiquorAndelixir, we just checked that with lsb_release, and it looks correct
[13:07] <knome> yep
[13:07] <slickymasterWork> duh
[13:08] <knome> LiquorAndelixir, please run "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit" and paste us the url
[13:10] <LiquorAndelixir> I upgraded a netbook a couple of months ago, and had no problem with the upgrade, but that was with -d option.   OK, pastebinit tells me http://paste.ubuntu.com/8364936/
[13:13] <knome> LiquorAndelixir, it might be irrelevant, but i'd try the main servers
[13:13]  * LiquorAndelixir nods
[13:13] <knome> do you know how to change that?
[13:13] <slickymasterWork> LiquorAndelixir: The 'do-release-upgrade' tool checks the list of official Ubuntu mirrors before running an upgrade. but your sources list just show mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca as mirrors
[13:13] <knome> once you've done that, run "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" once more
[13:14] <knome> then retry with "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[13:14] <slickymasterWork> ^^^
[13:14] <LiquorAndelixir> Only from the GUI, I don't remember the command line method.. but I can do that.
[13:15] <knome> LiquorAndelixir, GUI is fine
[13:16] <LiquorAndelixir> Knome, it just takes a little longer :)
[13:16] <knome> LiquorAndelixir, of course. no hurry :)
[13:23] <LiquorAndelixir> Ok, knome, downloaded package lists, found 10 updates on the main server that weren't on csclub server yet, but do-release-upgrade is still showing no new release found.
[13:23] <knome> LiquorAndelixir, and you upgraded the packages?
[13:24] <knome> LiquorAndelixir, now what happens with the -p parameter?
[13:24] <LiquorAndelixir> Still the same
[13:24] <knome> and -d?
[13:24] <LiquorAndelixir> Same -- and yes, I upgraded the packages while I was in the GUI
[13:25] <slickymasterWork> LiquorAndelixir: can you please, once again, run "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit" and paste us the url
[13:25] <slickymasterWork> just to see if the changes you made were affected
[13:26] <LiquorAndelixir> Ok, pastebinit shows me http://paste.ubuntu.com/8365006/
[13:28] <slickymasterWork> it looks alright LiquorAndelixir
[13:28] <slickymasterWork> what makes it even odder
[13:28]  * LiquorAndelixir nods "I thought so. FWIW - I'm at work and using SSH to my box at home to check each item."
[13:28] <slickymasterWork> that's not releated to the issue your facing
[13:29] <slickymasterWork> s/your/you're
[13:29] <LiquorAndelixir> *nod* no, it's not -- but it does mean I can't put a CD in the drive.
[13:29] <knome> LiquorAndelixir, what does "update-manager -d -c" do?
[13:30] <knome> (it should open the gui to begin with, but is it showing the upgrade then?
[13:31] <LiquorAndelixir> Nope.. 'there are no packages to install' -- and that's where I was when I did the update packages and changed the source.
[13:33]  * slickymasterWork scratches his head
[13:34] <LiquorAndelixir> Doubt if it's significant, but this is a 32 bit Atom machine, and update-manager is outputing debug messages:  (update-manager:27245): Gtk-WARNING **: /build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.4.2/./gtk/gtkliststore.c:851: Unable to convert from glong to gint
[13:36] <slickymasterWork> LiquorAndelixir: can you try something?  Try reinstalling update manager and core: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall update-manager update-manager-core'
[13:36] <LiquorAndelixir> Ok, doing that now
[13:41] <LiquorAndelixir> SlickymasterWork - reinstall done, no change seen.
[13:43] <LiquorAndelixir> Ok, let me look at an alternative: Is there any way to use a package list from the current installation,  and keep my configuration files for squid and postfix, but do an otherwise clean install from DVD?
[13:45] <knome> LiquorAndelixir, sure, booting from a DVD should show an "upgrade" option
[13:46] <slickymasterWork> LiquorAndelixir: ^^^
[13:47] <slickymasterWork> also to maintaing your packages list and configuration files, see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748541&p=10765330#post10765330
[13:49] <LiquorAndelixir> Ok, I'll DL and burn a DVD while I'm on my work line, and try that when I get home... though I don't seem to recall seeing that option when I did a reinstall on the 64 bit laptop:  It had sorta locked up because I was using the proprietary nvidia drivers and got a 'version mismatch' while it was on 12.04.
[13:53] <LiquorAndelixir> Thanks for the attempt, and especially for the forum link - it looks like I'll have to wait until I get home to try either solution.
[13:53] <slickymasterWork> LiquorAndelixir: good luck
[13:53] <LiquorAndelixir> TY, bye :)
[15:08] <gorzak> hi all, is it exist a french chan of xubuntu ?
[15:08] <holstein> !fr | gorzak
[15:09] <gorzak> thanks am already on ubuntu-fr i go back
[15:52] <xubuntu00w> I'm wondering if I can get some help. I've just installed xubuntu I'm trying to download updates but the download speed is so slow ratherly 5kB per second I have a 25Mbs line
[15:53] <xubuntu00w> I'm in an office and wonder if it has anything to do with that? On windows 7 I had to disable autotuning on command line, on MAC I had to do some sudo commands on terminal I wonder if on xubuntu I need to do someth9ing similar?
[15:54] <xangua> xubuntu00w: software center, edit, sources; change your mirror to the closest one you live or use the main ones
[15:55] <drc> xubuntu00w: ^^What xangua said...assuming you are not seeing a general slowness in your internet connection.
[15:56] <xubuntu00w> both so slow internet connection and slow download speed
[15:56] <drc> So the problem is slow internet connection, not slow updates ?
[15:56] <xubuntu00w> just doing a google search took me a good minute or 2
[15:57] <drc> Have you asked your work sysadmin about it?
[15:57] <xubuntu00w> I am the admin
[16:01] <xubuntu00w> I'm thinking if it has anything to do with being in an office environment ? So it's using up the bandwidth trying to detect other computers connected to the network? On MAC's to prevent this from happening you run the following commands on terminal: sudo bash -c "echo 'net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack=0' >> /etc/sysctl.conf" sudo bash -c "echo 'net.inet.tcp.recvspace=40960' >> /etc/sysctl.conf" sudo bash -c "echo 'net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=
[16:02] <xubuntu00w> On windows you run the following the commands: netsh interface tcp set global autotuning=disabled
[16:03] <xubuntu00w> is there a similar command I can run on xubuntu?
[16:05] <drc> xubuntu00w: That's beyond my paygrade :(
[16:06] <holstein> xubuntu00w: what are those commands facilitating on your network?
[16:06] <xubuntu00w> which ones?
[16:07] <holstein> "on MAC i had to do some sudo commands".. why? what is up with the network configuration?
[16:09] <xubuntu00w> you run them on the individual MAC or PC desktop to prevent it from using up needless bandwidth in an office environment this is very important as there are so many computers in a network the whole bandwidth will be used up just with computers communicating with each other pointlessly
[16:10] <xubuntu00w> so I'm wondering if xubuntu has something similar because I believe this could be the root of my slow internet
[16:10] <holstein> xubuntu00w: there should be no need of that
[16:11] <holstein> xubuntu00w: i would simply do some ping tests. and file download speed tests from different locations..
[16:12] <xubuntu00w> ok thanks
[16:12] <slickymasterWork> xubuntu00w: take a look at  tcp_moderate_rcvbuf in  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man7/tcp.7.html
[18:30] <xubuntu33w> Hi!
[18:31] <nomic> hi
[18:31] <xubuntu33w> Which iso should I download?
[18:31] <xubuntu33w> http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/ubuntu-cdimage/xubuntu/releases/trusty/release/
[18:31] <nomic> u got pentium
[18:31] <nomic> 64 bit
[18:32] <nomic> to make desktop cd
[18:32] <nomic>  	198 B 	2014-07-25 01:59
[18:32] <nomic> iso 	xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:32] <nomic> will only fit on DVD (now)
[18:32] <xubuntu33w> Ok!
[18:32] <nomic> if your system -- it will be, 64 bit
[18:32] <nomic> i386 = 32 bit
[18:32] <nomic> i64 = 64 bit
[18:32] <xubuntu33w> Ah ok!
[18:32] <nomic> there used to be 'alternative install'
[18:32] <nomic> there is only 1 type now
[18:33] <nomic> if you have a recent pentium -- get the one I posted
[18:33] <nomic> iso 	xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:33] <holstein> !mini
[18:33] <holstein> ^ you can use that as the old "alternative".. kind of like a net install
[18:33] <xubuntu33w> I want to try out a new system.  You know! I always used Windows.
[18:34] <nomic> if you managed the trauma of going from win 7 to win 8 -- you will have no problem at all transferring to xubuntu
[18:34] <holstein> xubuntu33w: try the normal iso.. you can run it live to "try it out"..
[18:34] <nomic> xubuntu is very 'regular' looking
[18:34] <nomic> every issue is dealt with
[18:34] <xubuntu33w> holstein: Kannst du deutsch?
[18:35] <holstein> !de
[18:35] <holstein> !nl
[18:35] <xubuntu33w> holstein: Achso!
[18:36] <xubuntu33w> nomic: Thanks!
[18:40] <knome> mtift|afk, please do not use awaynicks
[18:44]  * RedDeath Back
[18:44] <Unit193> RedDeath: Is there really a need to /ame that?
[18:47]  * drc <action text>Sends the specifed action to all channels which you are currently on.
[19:27] <mtift> knome: ok
[19:27] <knome> mtift, cheers
[19:43] <livingdaylight> Hi
[19:43] <livingdaylight> I was looking to install gyazo and wondered whether one can adapt this to xubuntu?
[19:43] <livingdaylight> https://github.com/gyazo/Gyazo-for-Linux#
[19:43] <livingdaylight> https://github.com/gyazo/Gyazo-for-Linux
[19:44] <holstein> livingdaylight: there is a readme, and a "debian" directory.. thats where i would start
[19:45] <holstein> probably no need to "adapt" it, but just install it, following the instructions they give
[19:46] <livingdaylight> instructions they give is open Unity dash
[19:46] <livingdaylight> locate and drag gyazo icon into launcher
[19:46] <holstein> livingdaylight: not likely
[19:46] <livingdaylight> launcher?
[19:47] <holstein> livingdaylight: there should be general instructions for linux
[19:47] <Unit193> Well huh, I've seen worse packaging.
[20:04] <lbracher> Hi there! Do you know if it's possible to work xubuntu iso file in order to work over PXE boot like Ubuntu's netboot version? TIA!
[20:04] <holstein> !pxe
[20:05] <Unit193> Didn't I talk to you before?
[20:05] <holstein> lbracher: whats the goal?
[20:05] <holstein> !mini
[20:05] <holstein> ^thats like a net install type thing...
[20:05] <koegs> in the past i had a pxe-config which allowed to boot the live-iso
[20:06] <koegs> but you had to unpack the iso
[20:07] <lbracher> koegs, how can I do that exactly? I've already unpacked the iso file and I'm able to boot Ubuntu's netboot version. Do you know exacty what I need to do? I need to use memdisk?
[20:07] <lbracher> holstein, I'm trying to revive an old laptop. No CD or DVD units at all.
[20:07] <lbracher> No USB booting also.
[20:09] <holstein> lbracher: i would just take the hard drive to another machine, install, and put it back in the other machine
[20:11] <lbracher> holstein, thanks. I'll try that if I figure out I'm not able to do that by PXE. I'm also trying that for acquiring knowledge.
[20:11] <koegs> lbracher: basically this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot
[20:12] <lbracher> koegs, thank you! :)
[20:12] <koegs> or search for "ubuntu live iso pxe", there are plenty of tutorials
[20:12] <lbracher> :)
[20:12] <holstein> lbracher: oh.. you *can* pxe boot.. nothing about xubuntu is preventing it.. its just that im sugesting its *much* easier, and probably faster to take a few screws out of a hard drive caddy..
[20:13] <Unit193> Hmm, I used cifs to pass the squashfs.
[20:14] <lbracher> holstein: no problem. I think the same. I'll give just one hour to the PXE booting effort. After this time, I'll use the screwdiver. Thanks! :)
[22:51] <xubuntu076> hello
[22:54] <xubuntu076> anyone out there?
[22:54] <Hund> Yes.
[22:55] <xubuntu076> hey
[22:55] <Hund> Yo
[22:55] <xubuntu076> i'm trying to install xubuntu on a very old desktop
[22:55] <xubuntu076> and I get an invisible cursor
[22:56] <xubuntu076> i can see it "works"
[22:56] <xubuntu076> but it's invisible
[22:56] <xubuntu076> any ideas?
[22:56] <Hund> Uhm.
[22:57] <xubuntu076> by "it works"
[22:57] <Hund> Maybe, try running this in a terminal: "gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.cursor active false"
[22:57] <xubuntu076> i can move the mouse around
[22:57] <xubuntu076> oh ok
[23:01] <xubuntu076> it says "no such schema"
[23:01] <xubuntu076> i've noticed some other weird events like flickering of terminal background (from solid color to transparency, while i have solid color defined)
[23:02] <xubuntu076> this is an old desktop
[23:02] <xubuntu076> with amd athlon
[23:02] <xubuntu076> 1Gb ram
[23:02] <Hund> It shouldnt be any problems.
[23:02] <xubuntu076> maybe i'm asking too much from this computer?
[23:02] <Hund> No.
[23:03] <xubuntu076> other example
[23:03] <xubuntu076> i open file manager
[23:03] <xubuntu076> icons do no appear unless selected
[23:04] <xubuntu076> my installation procedure is through a pendrive
[23:04] <weld_> xubuntu076, so you are still in the live session or have you already installed it?
[23:05] <xubuntu076> i have already installed it
[23:05] <xubuntu076> my graphics card is a GeForce2
[23:06] <xubuntu076> i have a lot of experience with ubuntu
[23:06] <xubuntu076> on installing in blades and servers
[23:06] <xubuntu076> (recent machines)
[23:07] <xubuntu076> but i've never found any such problem
[23:08] <xubuntu076> i've used universal pen installer software
[23:08] <xubuntu076> on windows
[23:08] <xubuntu076> to do the installation
[23:08] <xubuntu076> i mean, to make the installation pendrive
[23:08] <xubuntu076> maybe that's a problem?
[23:09] <xubuntu076> the menu during installation was already wit some "graphical faults"
[23:09] <xubuntu076> (i also don't have internet connected during installation)
[23:11] <xubuntu076> i'm currently doing a reinstalation
[23:11] <weld_> xubuntu076, i would do an upgrade after installation and check if it's different the latest kernel
[23:11] <weld_> s/the/with the/
[23:12] <xubuntu076> ahahah, sed synthax made me laugh
[23:12] <xubuntu076> :)
[23:12] <xubuntu076> thanks man
[23:12] <weld_> xubuntu076, that's common in irc;)
[23:13] <xubuntu076> i've just taken the .iso using the .torrent
[23:13] <xubuntu076> this afternoon
[23:13] <xubuntu076> 14.04.1
[23:13] <weld_> xubuntu076, i was often lucky and after apt-get update && apt-get upgrade the system was usable
[23:13] <weld_> while it was broken before (graphic-wise0
[23:13] <weld_> )
[23:14] <xubuntu076> K mate
[23:14] <xubuntu076> i'll try that out
[23:14] <xubuntu076> this seems to be graphics indeed
[23:24] <xubuntu076> it's gonna be tough to connect this baby to the internet
[23:24] <xubuntu076> modem is far away and i'm yet to buy a bigger ethernet cable....
[23:32] <xubuntu076> i'll have to test this tomorrow... ugh
[23:33] <xubuntu076> thanks for the advices weld_
[23:33] <xubuntu076> you think that apt-get update && apt-get upgrade will do the trick?
[23:34] <weld_> xubuntu076, no idea, you must be lucky ;)
[23:34] <xubuntu076> maybe a nvidia driver from their website can help too?
[23:35] <weld_> xubuntu076, i'm really not a driver expert but i think they don't provide any updated drivers for old cards at all, especially not for linux
[23:35] <weld_> but you'd have to check
[23:36] <weld_> last time i checked though they had some legacy version and one for newer cards
[23:38] <xubuntu076> in ubuntu there's a tool for that, right?
[23:38] <xubuntu076> for it to get you "the right driver"