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pitti | Good morning | 04:50 |
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dholbach | good morning | 06:59 |
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Mirv | I wonder if others are getting the graphical apt icon from time to time claiming KeyError "The cache has no package named 'ubuntu-emulator-runtime'" and if there's something that would need fixing. I think the package was this i386 only package? | 08:53 |
Mirv | sometimes I don't have it, but I remember having it already a month ago or so | 08:53 |
Mirv | right, from the 'android' source | 08:54 |
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rbasak | mvo_: have you seen bug 1341320? There's also http://askubuntu.com/questions/496199/hwe-support-status-does-not-tell-me-how-to-upgrade-to-12-04-5 which I think is the same thing. | 10:57 |
ubottu | bug 1341320 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "empty apt-get install command suggested by hwe-support-status" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1341320 | 10:57 |
mvo_ | rbasak: no, haven't see it, thanks for the notificiation | 11:00 |
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rharper | hallyn: I rebuilt qemu with the debdiff for the mknod kvm stuff -- it didn't build qemu-keymap -- so my upgrade of packages is failing ... what am I missing? | 14:27 |
hallyn | rharper: i'm probably pushing to archive soon. but, qemu-keymap is obsoleted | 14:27 |
hallyn | it'll get removed when you upgrade | 14:27 |
rharper | hrm, ok, maybe I'll just uninstall it | 14:28 |
rharper | just trying to confirm that the upstart job does create the node file inside a container | 14:28 |
hallyn | the packaging should mamke it uninstall | 14:28 |
rharper | it didn't | 14:28 |
hallyn | pkg is built at ppa:serge-hallyn/virt | 14:28 |
hallyn | you can jsut add that and dist-upgrade | 14:28 |
rharper | ok, lemme give that a try then | 14:28 |
hallyn | ok then i'll wait for your report before pushing to utopic | 14:29 |
rharper | hallyn: is that utopic only or should trusty versions be in there? I added and updated, but I don't see a qemu 2.1 via showpkg for qemu-system-x86 | 14:32 |
hallyn | rharper: utopic only | 14:33 |
hallyn | i don't think we can sru that to trusty | 14:33 |
hallyn | it's tiny, but stlil a feature | 14:33 |
rharper | urg | 14:33 |
rharper | that's fair | 14:33 |
rharper | hallyn: lemme try on utopic then | 14:33 |
aliljet | hi! I was wondering if there's an up to date ubuntu-recommender repo? | 14:34 |
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slangasek | doko: fwiw I'm giving back freetype for ppc64el, this doesn't look like a freetype bug there's no error output from the compiler | 15:31 |
barry | doko: webob retry succeeded | 15:34 |
doko | barry, good, can you look at the other python-* ftbfs too? | 15:35 |
barry | doko: yep, it's one of my background tasks | 15:36 |
* barry likes test suites that take 20m to run | 15:37 | |
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doko | slangasek, freetype, looks like an issue with -fPIC only ... libtool sends this output happily to /dev/null | 15:58 |
doko | afk | 15:58 |
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slangasek | doko: what an absurd thing for libtool to do! | 16:00 |
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Mirv | compiz would like to have core-dev ack for the dependency changes https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-016-2-publish/8/artifact/packaging_changes_compiz_1%3A0.9.12+14.10.20140918-0ubuntu1.diff | 16:10 |
flexiondotorg | slangasek, Me again. We been testing full disk encryption using Ubuntu 14.10 daily with mixed results. | 16:19 |
camako | pitti, ping! Will you be releasing a new version of umockdev? We (in the mir team) are looking forward to the O_TMPFILE fix... | 16:20 |
flexiondotorg | slangasek, I can reliably reproduce installing a fresh 14.10 daily with full disk encryption enabled and then on first boot Plymouth will display just a black screen. | 16:20 |
flexiondotorg | If I switch to vt1 and back to vt7 I see the Plymough graphical theme and pass phrase entry but Plymouth will not accept my pass phrase. | 16:20 |
flexiondotorg | This is using hardware with open source radeon driver. | 16:21 |
flexiondotorg | However, doing the same on hardware with Intel integrated chipset, everything works fine. | 16:21 |
slangasek | flexiondotorg: ok, useful info; I'm not sure if I have a radeon system here to test on but I'll try to figure that out | 16:29 |
flexiondotorg | What we have also discovered is if we disable vt_handoff. Everything appears to work correctly. | 16:30 |
flexiondotorg | slangasek, Have tested that theory extensively but so far a busted system can be made to work. | 16:30 |
flexiondotorg | s/Have/Have not/ | 16:31 |
doko | slangasek, freetype is an include issue ... /home/doko/tmp/freetype-2.5.2/freetype-2.5.2/include/freetype.h:33:28: fatal error: ftconfig.h: No such file or directory | 16:56 |
doko | #include FT_CONFIG_CONFIG_H | 16:56 |
doko | ^ | 16:56 |
doko | -I ./builds/unix is on the command line, but it should be -I ../builds/unix | 16:57 |
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Chipaca | in 14.04.1 a package has MultiArch: foreign, and i can depend on it on an i386 package and install it on amd64 and everything works | 18:42 |
Chipaca | in 14.10 it has no MultiArch, and I can't | 18:42 |
Chipaca | is that a bug? | 18:42 |
jtaylor | which package? | 18:45 |
flexiondotorg | slangasek, Back from my run if you have any questions regarding Plymouth. | 19:06 |
flexiondotorg | Or rather the testing we've been doing. | 19:06 |
smoser | cjwatson, do yo uhave aminute ? | 19:10 |
smoser | i'm trying to figure out what d-i does in install on ppc64el that i'm not doing | 19:11 |
smoser | i'm prety sure its doing something to get /boot/grub/grub or /boot/grub/powerpc-ieee1275/core.elf onto /dev/sdb1 (the EFI system partition) | 19:17 |
smoser | but it is moderately different | 19:17 |
smoser | heres what the installed d-i system looks like : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8374462/ | 19:18 |
slangasek | flexiondotorg: mostly it's down to me laying hands on a radeon machine, I think | 19:21 |
flexiondotorg | I'd send you one of mine but as I unerstand we are separated by some many thousands of miles 😞 | 19:22 |
zul | barry: ping https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.4/+bug/1367907 is there we can do anything about this? | 19:23 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1367907 in python3.4 (Ubuntu) "Segfault in gc with cyclic trash" [Undecided,New] | 19:23 |
flexiondotorg | slangasek, Just used todays image and no need to vt switch but I still can't get Plymouth to accept the pass phrase. | 19:23 |
slangasek | flexiondotorg: I'm reasonably certain that there are radeon machines closer to hand, yes | 19:25 |
flexiondotorg | slangasek, I've asked a couple of the other guys to join us here to explain what they have doscovered using virtualisation platforms such as Vbox and QEMU. | 19:27 |
flexiondotorg | Not sure if they will take the bait and join though. | 19:27 |
slangasek | flexiondotorg: results in virtualized environments don't tell us why it's not working on radeon; VMs have different video drivers, and have been mostly-broken for a while with most of the VM video options | 19:30 |
flexiondotorg | slangasek, Fair enough. But in some virtualised environment it works and others it doesn't. I thought it might be an easier way to gather some test data? | 19:31 |
slangasek | flexiondotorg: well, that would be useful data to have, but it still wouldn't help us for radeon | 19:31 |
flexiondotorg | slangasek, Agreed. But I don't think this problem is specific to radeon. | 19:32 |
flexiondotorg | The following bug reports maybe relevant. | 19:35 |
flexiondotorg | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80553 | 19:35 |
flexiondotorg | https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=517572 | 19:35 |
ubottu | Freedesktop bug 80553 in general "plymouthd exists prematurely so boot splash doesn't work with 0.9.0" [Normal,Assigned] | 19:35 |
ubottu | bugs.gentoo.org bug 517572 in Core system "sys-boot/plymouth-0.9.0 does not shows splash screen" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 19:35 |
infirit | flexiondotorg, not sure how much you told so let me know what you need me to elaborate on | 19:37 |
mwhudson | sigh | 19:41 |
mwhudson | i need someone to sit me down and explain to me what the modules/abi checking in the kernel build process is all about | 19:41 |
mwhudson | in terms that i won't forget again | 19:41 |
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flexiondotorg | infirit, Basically can you tell slangasek what virtualised environment can be used to demonstrate the problem and those that work fine. | 19:46 |
flexiondotorg | infirit, I explained the on real hardware radeon open source driver do not allow Plymouth the accept the decryption pass phrase where as Intel drivers do. | 19:47 |
infirit | virtualbox 4.3.14 does it for me | 19:47 |
flexiondotorg | Sadly, I don't have an Nvidia system I can test on. | 19:48 |
flexiondotorg | infirit, Virtualbox does what, work or not work? | 19:48 |
flexiondotorg | I know, I know the answer but slangasek doesn't 😃 | 19:48 |
infirit | But also qemu 2.1.1 in virt-manager/libvirt | 19:48 |
infirit | flexiondotorg, slangasek none of those work for me once installed. | 19:49 |
infirit | I have not tried vmware | 19:49 |
infirit | Only when removing the handover it works in these 2 | 19:50 |
infirit | But hat may just be working around another problem | 19:50 |
barry | slangasek: can you retry python-concurrent.futures: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/test-rebuild-20140914/+build/6375254 | 20:06 |
slangasek | barry: retried | 20:07 |
barry | thanks | 20:08 |
Chipaca | jtaylor: realpath | 20:16 |
jtaylor | ? | 20:17 |
Chipaca | <jtaylor> 20:45:50> which package? | 20:18 |
jtaylor | oh thats the one that got absorbed into coreutils right? | 20:22 |
jtaylor | might be a bug due to the change | 20:22 |
jtaylor | oh its one big package, thats probably why | 20:23 |
Chipaca | jtaylor: what does that mean? | 20:31 |
Chipaca | oh, in U it's in coreutils? | 20:32 |
Chipaca | so it's a bug in the dummy transitional package i guess | 20:32 |
jtaylor | though coreutils is M-A: foreign so it should work | 20:32 |
jtaylor | maybe, the transitional is not m-a | 20:32 |
Chipaca | exactly, and that breaks it | 20:32 |
Chipaca | hm, can i depend on coreutils >x.y.z | realpath ? | 20:33 |
jtaylor | I think so | 20:33 |
Chipaca | worked in U, let's see on T | 20:37 |
jtaylor | filing a bug should not harm either | 20:37 |
Chipaca | yup | 20:38 |
jtaylor | assuming m-a works for transitionals | 20:38 |
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Chipaca | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/realpath/+bug/1371303 | 20:39 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1371303 in realpath (Ubuntu) "missing MultiArch breaks multiarch packages that depend on realpath" [Undecided,New] | 20:39 |
jtaylor | hm it should be filed against coreutils that contains the transitional | 20:40 |
Chipaca | now to see if it'll work in 12.04 too :) | 20:40 |
Chipaca | jtaylor: thanks for reassigning it | 20:45 |
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Noskcaj | Could someone please look at bug 1371309 | 21:02 |
ubottu | bug 1371309 in ubuntu-gnome-meta (Ubuntu) "Add numix-gtk-theme to ubuntu-gnome seed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1371309 | 21:02 |
Noskcaj | cjwatson, You did the most recent change to the seed, is bug bug 1371309 alright? | 21:24 |
ubottu | bug 1371309 in ubuntu-gnome-meta (Ubuntu) "Add numix-gtk-theme to ubuntu-gnome seed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1371309 | 21:24 |
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doko | rbasak, jamespage: why is mysql built sequentially? | 21:37 |
smoser | well, cjwatson if you come around. this is d-i install: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8375494/ . and this is curtin install: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8375494/ | 22:32 |
smoser | bah. d-i : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8374462/ | 22:43 |
slangasek | doko: so for the record, it's not libtool that's suppressing the output, freetype is invoking libtool with >/dev/null 2>&1 and I can't figure out where in the build system this is happening <grr> | 23:13 |
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slangasek | doko: also, I am skeptical of this "include issue"; why would freetype have regressed in its ability to find its own headers, and why would it have regressed only on ppc64el? | 23:14 |
doko | it is libtool | 23:14 |
doko | or the generated Makefile, once building with, and then without -fPIC | 23:14 |
slangasek | doko: freetype's build system is crazy and I can find no generated Makefile like you describe - which file are you seeing this in? | 23:16 |
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doko | slangasek, no, it is libtool itself calling the compiler twice, once without -fPIC, and then with it | 23:25 |
slangasek | doko: ah; so it's libtool redirecting gcc's output? | 23:26 |
slangasek | do you know how to override that? | 23:26 |
infinity | smoser: At a glance, I'm not actually seeing a problem with the difference between those two pastes. I assume that the curtin one doesn't boot, however? | 23:30 |
doko | # Allow error messages only from the first compilation. | 23:31 |
doko | if test "$suppress_opt" = yes; then | 23:31 |
doko | suppress_output=' >/dev/null 2>&1' | 23:31 |
doko | fi | 23:31 |
slangasek | hmm, -no-suppress apparently | 23:31 |
slangasek | doko: yeah, just got there, thanks | 23:31 |
slangasek | this is of course not documented in libtool --help | 23:31 |
doko | slangasek, libtool -no-suppress | 23:31 |
slangasek | apparently not | 23:32 |
slangasek | needs to go after the --mode argument | 23:32 |
slangasek | doko: ok; this is what I get for output now, doesn't say anything about an include problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8375838/ | 23:35 |
doko | hmm | 23:36 |
infinity | slangasek: That's an -O3 problem. | 23:36 |
doko | does this go away with -O2? | 23:36 |
slangasek | probably ;) | 23:36 |
infinity | slangasek: Or, rather, a sketchy code being optimised to oblivion with -O3. | 23:37 |
slangasek | I just wanted to confirm that this wasn't the include problem you were seeing | 23:37 |
slangasek | I'll chase it down from here | 23:37 |
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