| cwayne | jdstrand: ping | 00:52 |
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| jdstrand | cwayne: yeah, I saw something weird and am trying to figure out what it is. I may want to do an upload to fix it | 02:49 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: sorry, I should have mentioned that sooner | 02:49 |
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| Jack_ | Anyone There | 05:10 |
| nhaines | I can't remember now... is there a way to switch channels (from devel to devel-proposed, for instance) on the device itself via CLI? | 06:26 |
| popey | nhaines: system-image-cli can do that | 06:51 |
| nhaines | popey: thanks. I'm trying to decide whether to run devel or ubuntu-rtm/14.09 on my Nexus 5. | 06:53 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:59 |
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| nhaines | dholbach: good morning! | 06:59 |
| dholbach | hi nhaines | 07:00 |
| nhaines | dholbach: I was just pondering what channel of Ubuntu to run on my N5. :) | 07:00 |
| popey | nhaines: I'd ask dobey what he runs on his | 07:01 |
| nhaines | popey: sounds good. rtm seems fine but has no scopes and no promotion yet. I was running devel-proposed but since I'm going to reflash anyway, may as well get a second opinion. :) | 07:02 |
| nhaines | dobey: what's the best channel to be running on a N5? | 07:03 |
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| asac | i had my n4 on devel-proposed ringing some form of alarm without a notification that i could use to it off and i had to power it off to get rid of it. is there a bug open for that? | 08:04 |
| nhaines | Sounds like a timesaver. Think of all the time looking for the snooze button you won't waste. | 08:05 |
| ogra_ | asac, iirc we had that before but it was fixed ... cant remember any bug number though ... perhaps popey or davmor2 can | 08:06 |
| asac | nhaines: lol. well, it didnt stop ringing :). was not very effective while i was fighting it mentally hoping for it to stop :P | 08:06 |
| nhaines | asac: it definitely got your attention though. :) | 08:06 |
| asac | hehe | 08:06 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Respect Day! :-D | 08:06 |
| popey | asac: sounds like the one where the notification is behind stuff, and if you stab repeatedly where the notification would be, it does dismiss it | 08:11 |
| asac | popey: really? a phantom bubble? nice :). will try next time | 08:12 |
| asac | popey: do you know the bug id? | 08:12 |
| popey | asac: lemme try and find it | 08:18 |
| Mirv | tsdgeos: in case you want to give the rtm silo a whirl, https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-006 is ready and I estimate getting the (general) testing done today, after which it'll go to QA. | 08:41 |
| tsdgeos | cool | 08:41 |
| lool | folks, is there a workaroudn for flashing without --wipe failing on mako? | 08:44 |
| lool | adb push tells me there isn't enough free space in recovery | 08:44 |
| ogra_ | check /cache/recovery and clean it if needed | 08:45 |
| lool | there seemed to be only device bits there | 08:45 |
| lool | I'll try again | 08:46 |
| davmor2 | lool: you can open the mako tarball grab the recovery bit and flash that bit with fastboot and definitely have a clean recovery and then flash with u-d-f | 08:49 |
| lool | /dev/disk/by-partlabel/cache 552M 9,8M 542M 2% /android/cache | 08:52 |
| lool | we'll see how that goes, but all files seemed to be relevant | 08:53 |
| nhaines | Ooh, I found a bug in the welcome wizard. | 09:31 |
| nhaines | On the "Set lock security", if I open the dropdown for "PIN code", but tap on the entry field for the entry, it goes all pear-shaped. | 09:32 |
| nhaines | The dropdown doesn't close. | 09:32 |
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| Wellark | mpt: correct. it should be non-editable | 10:21 |
| mpt | Wellark, I was confused by the toolkit: it looks editable but it isn’t (reported bug 1370571) | 10:22 |
| ubot5 | bug 1370571 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "Read-only text field doesn't look read-only" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1370571 | 10:22 |
| Wellark | mpt: ok. does not come as a total surprise :) | 10:26 |
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| Wellark | mpt: quick workaround would be to change the text field to a label | 10:34 |
| mpt | Wellark, I think that would be a net improvement, even though it would mean the number was uncopyable for now | 10:34 |
| mpt | (As it is, copying the number is pretty fiddly to do anyway) | 10:35 |
| lool | I'm getting this on apt-get update on mako / 14.09-proposed: | 11:38 |
| lool | W: Impossible de récupérer http://derived.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu-rtm/dists/14.09-security/restricted/source/Sources 404 Not Found | 11:38 |
| lool | looks like sources.list is broken | 11:38 |
| lool | or the archive | 11:39 |
| nik90 | ogra_: is --channel=ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09 the correct channel for rtm stable | 11:47 |
| ogra_ | yup | 11:47 |
| nik90 | cool thnx | 11:47 |
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| Chipaca | mpt: could you (and if not you, who) give any additional input on bug 1371081 please? | 12:22 |
| ubot5 | bug 1371081 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "if "when locked, allow [...] notifications" is disabled, notifications should not be shown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1371081 | 12:22 |
| mpt | Chipaca, done | 12:30 |
| Chipaca | mpt: thanks | 12:30 |
| Chipaca | Saviq: are you still on vacation? | 12:30 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: hey so i was seeing the precompiled cache in /custom being different from what ended up in /var/cache/apparmor, is that the weirdness you were seeing? | 12:36 |
| jdstrand | different how? | 12:37 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: i don't know, diff just said the binaries differed | 12:37 |
| cwayne | so it seems like theyre not being copied over on first boot | 12:37 |
| cwayne | if i remove the ones from /var and then reboot they *are* copied over | 12:37 |
| cwayne | so im wondering if start on starting apparmor wasn't early enough? | 12:38 |
| cwayne | and the first boot still took forever, so it was definitely still compiling them instead of copying over | 12:38 |
| jdstrand | do you cwayne that is probably the -u of cp kicking in | 12:38 |
| jdstrand | mey | 12:38 |
| jdstrand | that is probably the -u of cp kicking in | 12:38 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: but the destination file should be missing at that point | 12:39 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: not if the image had booted | 12:39 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: but it hadn't, this was on first boot | 12:40 |
| jdstrand | was this a fresh wipe or was there still stuff in /var/lib/apparmor | 12:40 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: fresh wipe | 12:40 |
| jdstrand | what is the output of 'stat /var/cache/apparmor/*' and 'stat /custom/cache/*' | 12:41 |
| jdstrand | (and no, this isn't the weirdness) | 12:42 |
| jdstrand | also, define 'forever' | 12:42 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: like a minute or so, long enough to tell it was compiling :) | 12:42 |
| jdstrand | 2 minutes, 10 minutes, ... | 12:42 |
| jdstrand | I see | 12:42 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: let me do a fresh wipe again, and ill get you the output of those stat calls | 12:43 |
| jdstrand | I feel like maybe the upstart job is short-circuiting | 12:44 |
| om26er | jdstrand, Hi! I believe you work on trust-stored-skeleton ? | 12:44 |
| jdstrand | om26er: I did not | 12:44 |
| asac | om26er: tvoss is the owner afaik | 12:45 |
| tvoss | om26er, yup, how can I help? | 12:45 |
| om26er | tvoss, Hi! during image testing I have found the camera-app to not start sometimes, at that time there is this crash bug 1371071 | 12:46 |
| ubot5 | bug 1371071 in trust-store (Ubuntu) "trust-stored-skeleton crashed with SIGSEGV in MirPromptSession::MirPromptSession()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1371071 | 12:46 |
| om26er | jdstrand, ok, I found the owner :) | 12:46 |
| om26er | asac, thanks | 12:46 |
| mailyaseen | popey : hi | 12:47 |
| tvoss | om26er, known, duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/trust-store/+bug/1370444 | 12:48 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1370444 in trust-store (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/trust-stored-skeleton:11:MirPromptSession::MirPromptSession:MirConnection::create_prompt_session:mir_connection_create_prompt_session_sync:core::trust::mir::ConnectionVirtualTable::create_prompt_session_sync:core::trust::mir::Agent::authenticate_request_with_parameters" [Critical,Confirmed] | 12:48 |
| tvoss | om26er, however, the camera should still start | 12:48 |
| om26er | tvoss, the camera process did start but the UI was stuck at launching | 12:48 |
| Wellark | Mirv, mzanetti: do you guys know if anyone has experience in doing QML offscreen rendering? | 12:49 |
| mzanetti | Wellark: what you want to do? | 12:49 |
| Wellark | Mirv: kaitsu from nomovok had back in the day when Scenegraph was still called Lighthouse :) | 12:49 |
| Wellark | mzanetti: I need to do a quick PoC on how to bring unity8 indicators to unity7 | 12:50 |
| Wellark | basically the idea is to render the indicators offscreen to a GL buffer | 12:50 |
| Wellark | and then have unity7 show the buffer and relay the mouse events | 12:50 |
| Wellark | it's totally doable | 12:50 |
| Wellark | I've seen it done before | 12:50 |
| mzanetti | hmm... greyback maybe | 12:51 |
| Wellark | just wondering if anyone would have any prior experience on actually doing it | 12:51 |
| Wellark | so that I don't have to figure out the shape of the wheel from zero' | 12:51 |
| tvoss | om26er, okay, probably best to file against camera | 12:51 |
| popey | mailyaseen: yo | 12:51 |
| Wellark | greyback: my man? --^ :) | 12:51 |
| mzanetti | Wellark: aren't you working on the SIM pin stuff any more? | 12:51 |
| Wellark | mzanetti: sure. I am | 12:51 |
| Wellark | mzanetti: this is my hobby | 12:51 |
| Wellark | just wanted to ask | 12:51 |
| Wellark | some preparations for the client sprint | 12:52 |
| Wellark | mzanetti: I'm working on this on my spare time | 12:52 |
| mailyaseen | popey: wat is the password, for exploring root files in file manager.. | 12:52 |
| popey | mailyaseen: whatever you set it to in system settings | 12:52 |
| mzanetti | Wellark: yeah, try greyback... He's done the most with the rendering stuff | 12:52 |
| om26er | tvoss, will do. | 12:52 |
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| mailyaseen | popey : i tried, ubuntu and phablet... but are not working | 12:52 |
| popey | mailyaseen: the pin unlock code | 12:52 |
| popey | mailyaseen: is this in the emulator? if so, try 0000 | 12:53 |
| mailyaseen | popey : okay.. Thank you | 12:53 |
| tvoss | om26er, thanks | 12:53 |
| Wellark | popey: the password is the "passcode" you set in the startup wizard | 12:53 |
| Wellark | pin unlock code is for the SIM | 12:54 |
| Wellark | alhtough I don't know if it's already "fixed" everywhere | 12:54 |
| popey | Wellark:uh | 12:54 |
| popey | we dont have SIM unlock codes here ☻ | 12:54 |
| Wellark | popey: you might not have | 12:54 |
| popey | and yeah, okay, passcode / pin / potato / potato | 12:54 |
| Wellark | but the civilized world does :) | 12:54 |
| popey | ʘ‿ಠ | 12:54 |
| Wellark | popey: there is a long bug thread about this | 12:55 |
| popey | indeed | 12:55 |
| Wellark | where we actual Europeans tried to convince the UK minded designers that it's a _bad_ idea to call the device passcode "PIN" :) | 12:55 |
| popey | Wellark: I'm not the one asking, mailyaseen is | 12:55 |
| popey | I agreed. | 12:56 |
| popey | Preaching to the converted here ☻ | 12:56 |
| Wellark | popey: btw, will UK change it's name to "Almost United Kingdoms" if Scotland goes on with the madness and breaks off ? | 12:56 |
| popey | haha | 12:56 |
| Wellark | don't those people realize what economical and geo political suicide that is... | 12:57 |
| popey | seems a very close vote | 12:57 |
| popey | 51/49 by most reckonings | 12:57 |
| Wellark | same goes for the rest of the UK, btw | 12:57 |
| Wellark | with the talks of breaking off from the EU | 12:57 |
| * popey sets up the Glorious Nation of Popey | 12:57 | |
| Wellark | good luck herding those sheeps after that | 12:57 |
| Wellark | as it's about the only viable living the people in the UK can do after breaking off EU | 12:58 |
| Wellark | back to the dark ages1 | 12:58 |
| Wellark | ok, maybe my world politics trolling limit is now reached for today | 12:58 |
| mailyaseen | popey : its password is same as pincode used to unlock the mobile/screen.. :) | 12:58 |
| Wellark | popey: let's continue in Washington over a barrel of bear :) | 12:59 |
| pindonga | fg | 12:59 |
| Wellark | mailyaseen: yes. | 12:59 |
| popey | ☻ | 12:59 |
| Chipaca | mpt: do you know if there is design as to what to do if the popup is suppressed? | 12:59 |
| Wellark | mailyaseen: it's the same you have to enter each time you want to unlock the greeter | 12:59 |
| Wellark | Chipaca: which popup? | 12:59 |
| mailyaseen | Weelark : correct.. :) i am able to explore to the root | 13:00 |
| mailyaseen | Wellark / popey : where can i located the files which i had stored in android? | 13:00 |
| popey | no idea, I dont use android | 13:00 |
| * Wellark feels very concerned that we have a user unix password set as four digits | 13:00 | |
| * Wellark wonders what is the size of the dictinary that would contain all of the precomputed hashes.. | 13:01 | |
| Wellark | mailyaseen: I'm not 100% sure | 13:01 |
| Wellark | but look under /userdata/ | 13:01 |
| Wellark | if I remember correctly the android files are under | 13:01 |
| mailyaseen | Wellark : let me check out.. :) | 13:01 |
| Wellark | /userdata/0/ | 13:01 |
| Wellark | or /userdata/0/0 | 13:01 |
| Wellark | or something like that | 13:01 |
| Chipaca | mpt: ah, just seen your response. responding. | 13:02 |
| Wellark | mailyaseen: if you can't find them | 13:02 |
| Wellark | mailyaseen: but you remember you had a file "foo bar something maybe.pdf" | 13:02 |
| Wellark | you can do | 13:02 |
| Wellark | cd / | 13:02 |
| Wellark | find . |grep -i omething | 13:02 |
| Wellark | if you just remember at least part of the name | 13:03 |
| Chipaca | MacSlow: mpt: there | 13:03 |
| Wellark | Chipaca: btw, was it you who was interested in knowing when the connectivity networking API is ready? | 13:04 |
| Chipaca | Wellark: yes | 13:04 |
| kenvandine | renatu, i fixed the translation bug you found, https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/content-hub/lp1368770/+merge/235082 | 13:05 |
| Chipaca | Wellark: not sure if we can switch to it at this point, but certainly want to know when we can :) | 13:05 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: https://pastebin.canonical.com/117171/ is /custom/cache and https://pastebin.canonical.com/117173/ is /var/cache | 13:05 |
| Wellark | Chipaca: sure | 13:05 |
| Wellark | Chipaca: what's your target language? | 13:05 |
| Chipaca | Wellark: go | 13:05 |
| Wellark | ok. | 13:05 |
| Wellark | Chipaca: sorry, no straight api for you | 13:05 |
| Wellark | Chipaca: but | 13:05 |
| Chipaca | Wellark: dbus? | 13:05 |
| Chipaca | a dbus api would make me happy | 13:06 |
| * Chipaca rhymes | 13:06 | |
| Wellark | Chipaca: here you go: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-api-team/connectivity-api/trunk.14.10/view/head:/doc/dbus/connectivity-api.txt | 13:06 |
| Wellark | for Qt I would have been able to give you this: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/devel/ubuntu-14.10/cplusplus/connectivity-api/ | 13:06 |
| Wellark | and QML: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Connectivity.NetworkingStatus/ | 13:07 |
| Chipaca | Wellark: no worries. So I just watch changes to those properties? | 13:07 |
| Wellark | Chipaca: yes. | 13:07 |
| Chipaca | Wellark: ok | 13:07 |
| Chipaca | Wellark: thanks | 13:07 |
| Wellark | standard fdo.Properties | 13:07 |
| Chipaca | yup | 13:07 |
| Wellark | Chipaca: I tried to keep it simple :) | 13:08 |
| Chipaca | Wellark: does it detect captive portals and report that as being offline(ish)? | 13:08 |
| Wellark | Chipaca: not yet. | 13:08 |
| Chipaca | ah | 13:08 |
| Chipaca | Wellark: when? | 13:08 |
| Wellark | Chipaca: captive portal detection is not enabled in NM | 13:08 |
| Chipaca | heh. it doesn't work if you do enable it :) | 13:08 |
| Wellark | Chipaca: we just need to make a decision in Washington | 13:08 |
| Wellark | or if for some reason we decide not to enable it in NM | 13:09 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: I think we need more debugging in the custom upstart job | 13:09 |
| Wellark | I can add the logic to the connectivity-service straight | 13:09 |
| Chipaca | Wellark: ok. i'll plan to switch post-washington then. | 13:09 |
| Wellark | Chipaca: but the idea is that the status will stay at "connecting" as long as the captive portal is blocking traffic | 13:09 |
| Chipaca | Wellark: that wfm. | 13:10 |
| Wellark | same would also be true if the there is a policy that all traffic must go trhough a VPN | 13:10 |
| Wellark | status would stay as "connecting" as long as the VPN is not up | 13:10 |
| Wellark | which might also require a captive portal login first | 13:11 |
| MacSlow | mpt, regarding LP: #1371081 I assume you'll hook up with Esti and James Mulholland to coordinate the final Design-guideline for a solution? | 13:15 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1371081 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "if “when locked, allow [...] notifications” is disabled, notifications should not be shown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1371081 | 13:15 |
| mpt | MacSlow, I just have | 13:15 |
| MacSlow | mpt, sweet! | 13:15 |
| kenvandine | Elleo, can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/content-hub/lp1368770/+merge/235082 | 13:22 |
| asac | barry: do we have a bug for the odd progress bar behaviour on updates? | 13:22 |
| asac | barry: like i sometimes see it working, but in most cases the whole flow feels buggy | 13:22 |
| kenvandine | asac, for app updates or system? | 13:22 |
| Elleo | kenvandine: sure thing :) | 13:22 |
| asac | kenvandine: system updates ... if there is a difference | 13:23 |
| kenvandine | there is | 13:23 |
| asac | kenvandine: like you go there, you see no progress bar movement | 13:23 |
| kenvandine | we've fixed a number of bugs in that area in the past weeks | 13:23 |
| asac | and suddenly you get asked for install&reboot | 13:23 |
| tedg | mpt, So now I'm more confused, I thought that "Messages on Welcome Screen" was controlling notifications: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#Phone | 13:23 |
| asac | kenvandine: do we have a master bug or something? | 13:23 |
| kenvandine | asac, i think that happens when the update is already downloaded | 13:23 |
| asac | kenvandine: right. the overall userflow is kind of buggy | 13:23 |
| kenvandine | if it has to download still, i think the progress bar works | 13:24 |
| asac | buggy experience | 13:24 |
| asac | not really buggy i think | 13:24 |
| tedg | mpt, How's that one work with the "Phone Locking" settings? | 13:24 |
| asac | kenvandine: right. i felt if the download is super small this happens | 13:24 |
| kenvandine | so if it's already downloaded, we just shouldn't show the bar | 13:24 |
| kenvandine | asac, do you have auto download enabled? | 13:24 |
| kenvandine | which is default | 13:24 |
| mandel | Elleo, can you please take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-download-manager/qml-metadata and let me know if it makes sense (for the qml only) | 13:24 |
| asac | but you are probably right taht the user flow is odd when it already is downloaded... wonder why it takes so much time then | 13:24 |
| dobey | nhaines: i'm running devel-proposed right now | 13:24 |
| asac | kenvandine: yes of course | 13:24 |
| kenvandine | right | 13:24 |
| asac | kenvandine: do we have a bug? | 13:24 |
| asac | i want to put that onto the tracking radar :P | 13:24 |
| kenvandine | i don't think we have one for that specifically | 13:25 |
| kenvandine | please file one | 13:25 |
| mandel | Elleo, is so that you can set the title in the downloads from the browser (that will be used in the indicator) and a flag that allows to hide the downloads from it | 13:25 |
| asac | kenvandine: against what? | 13:25 |
| kenvandine | ubuntu-system-settings | 13:25 |
| Wellark | Chipaca: btw, I want to talk with you | 13:25 |
| Wellark | when you have a moment | 13:25 |
| Wellark | I need some info on Go | 13:25 |
| kenvandine | asac, so you see the system update available, and you see the progress bar briefly | 13:25 |
| kenvandine | then you get the dialog right? | 13:25 |
| mpt | asac, bug 1311365 and bug 1312587 | 13:25 |
| ubot5 | bug 1311365 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Double progress when updating system" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1311365 | 13:25 |
| ubot5 | bug 1312587 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Update downloading incorrectly presented as "Installing"" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1312587 | 13:25 |
| Wellark | Chipaca: but I'm stuck in meetings for the next two hours | 13:25 |
| Wellark | Chipaca: just ping me when you have a moment, thanks! | 13:26 |
| Chipaca | Wellark: good :) i'm off to a meeting in 4', and then school run | 13:26 |
| Wellark | Chipaca: ok. | 13:26 |
| Wellark | we can talk tomorrow, too | 13:26 |
| Wellark | as long as it happens before Washington :) | 13:26 |
| Wellark | Chipaca: I have something that might interest you and the rest of Go writers | 13:26 |
| Chipaca | Wellark: ah, you're a couple of hours ahead of me | 13:26 |
| kenvandine | mpt, i do not understand bug 1311365 | 13:27 |
| Chipaca | Wellark: tomorrow morning works for me | 13:27 |
| ubot5 | bug 1311365 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Double progress when updating system" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1311365 | 13:27 |
| Wellark | I'm UTC+3 | 13:27 |
| kenvandine | it's all one page... | 13:27 |
| mpt | kenvandine, the screenshot is pretty self-explanatory :-) | 13:27 |
| greyback | Wellark: hey. I've never tried rendering to an FBO, but I know it's possible. https://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qquickwindow.html#setRenderTarget looks to be useful | 13:28 |
| kenvandine | mpt, but it's one page :) | 13:28 |
| lool | ogra_: do you have the equivalent of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing/lxc-android-config for krillin? | 13:28 |
| lool | no system.img there | 13:28 |
| kenvandine | oh, that's kind of old | 13:28 |
| lool | I see no mmcblk* in /dev under recovery | 13:28 |
| kenvandine | i bet that was fixed in seb128's UI refactoring | 13:28 |
| mpt | asac, sorry, I misread your complaint. You’re right, it’s a bug that you get prompted as soon as you arrive on the Updates screen. | 13:29 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: perhaps start with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8372336/ | 13:29 |
| mpt | And it isn’t reported, afaik | 13:30 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: (untested) | 13:30 |
| asac | mpt: hmm. i think my complain is that you first get to the normal "download" screen, but dont see progress | 13:30 |
| asac | then suddenly you get prompted | 13:30 |
| asac | and then you sometimes end up in the grey screen | 13:30 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: the only problem is i don't know how to get it to run that on the very first boot (which is the only place we're seeing an issue) | 13:30 |
| greyback | Wellark: that needs to be called from the render thread, so you need to make a DirectConnection to something like the QQuickWindow::beforeRendering() signal - so that code you write is called on the render thread | 13:31 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: when is /custom available? always? | 13:32 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: yeah | 13:32 |
| greyback | Wellark: for more info on that, see https://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qtquick-visualcanvas-scenegraph.html#threaded-render-loop | 13:32 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: a first start might be 'rm -f /var/cache/apparmor/* && reboot' and see what happens | 13:33 |
| Wellark | greyback: thanks! | 13:33 |
| mpt | asac, hmm, I don’t know what you mean by “the normal ‘download’ screen” | 13:33 |
| Wellark | greyback: the real "tricky" part will be the input events | 13:33 |
| greyback | Wellark: input is always harder :) | 13:33 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: then paste /home/phablet.debug.out | 13:33 |
| jdstrand | /home/phablet/debug.out | 13:33 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: i've done that many times and it always works as expected | 13:33 |
| cwayne | i.e. diff shows no difference int he files | 13:34 |
| Wellark | greyback: but scenegraph was design to allow QtQuick to be embedded to "alien" render systems | 13:34 |
| cwayne | it's only on first boot that it is different somehow | 13:34 |
| Wellark | back in the day when it was still a research project called Lighthouse | 13:34 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: are they different now? | 13:35 |
| greyback | Wellark: designed is a strong word for it :) It can be made work. You might want to look into the "RenderControl" - that's a private API (prublic in 5.4) which gives an external library control over Qt rendering | 13:35 |
| asac | mpt: if i am in system settings. and i click on updates ... that screen has all the items taht get downloaded stacked and a progress bar | 13:36 |
| ogra_ | lool, just "mount /system (it is in the recovery fstabl) | 13:36 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: i'd just done a fresh flash, so yep | 13:36 |
| greyback | Wellark: there's plenty of prior art with integrating QtQuick with other graphics libs. It integrates quite well with VTK for example | 13:36 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: can you run this command: | 13:36 |
| Elleo | kenvandine: approved :) | 13:36 |
| Wellark | greyback: well, Lighthouse was designed for it, maybe the vision got lost during transition to Scenegraph :) | 13:36 |
| jdstrand | for i in /custom/cache/apparmor /etc/apparmor.d/cache /var/cache/apparmor ; do echo "= $i =" ; for j in $i/* ; do echo -n "$j: " ; sudo apparmor_parser -B -r $j && echo pass || echo FAIL ; done ; done | grep FAIL | 13:36 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: actually drop the '| grep FAIL' off the end and paste the results | 13:37 |
| greyback | Wellark: this was a good talk on the topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfIaTccy6HQ | 13:37 |
| kenvandine | Elleo, thx! | 13:37 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: i ran it first with the grep fail, does that taint the results at all? | 13:37 |
| Elleo | no problem :) | 13:38 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: doesn't taint, just doesn't show as much as I'd like to see | 13:38 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: when i ran it the second time: https://pastebin.canonical.com/117174/ | 13:38 |
| jdstrand | ok, so no failures (good) | 13:39 |
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| johnvt | Good morning, anyone around? | 13:39 |
| jdstrand | there might be a click system hook invocation involved | 13:39 |
| lool | ogra_: updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing/lxc-android-config#preview | 13:40 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: yes, I bet it is click-system-hooks.conf | 13:40 |
| jdstrand | start on filesystem | 13:40 |
| jdstrand | task | 13:40 |
| jdstrand | exec /usr/bin/click hook run-system | 13:40 |
| johnvt | I'm trying to do an offline install of Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS but the only ISO I can find for it requires internet | 13:40 |
| lool | hmm device doesn't boot anymore | 13:40 |
| lool | laala | 13:40 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: apparmor start before lightdm, not start on filesystem | 13:41 |
| ogra_ | lool, misses a mkdir for mako | 13:41 |
| mpt | asac, it has one progress bar for each item that is downloading | 13:41 |
| johnvt | Is there a way to install Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS *without* network access? | 13:41 |
| johnvt | Just a quick bare install | 13:41 |
| lool | ogra_: does it? | 13:41 |
| Wellark | greyback: thanks! the most important thing right now for is that by Washington I need to be able just to demonstrate it's feasible to run unity8 indicators on top of unity7 | 13:41 |
| ogra_ | lool, well, or make both use TARGET=/system | 13:41 |
| ogra_ | either will work | 13:41 |
| lool | ogra_: does mount /system work on mako? | 13:41 |
| ogra_ | i think so | 13:42 |
| lool | gosh I've broken my krillin's boot now | 13:42 |
| lool | WTF | 13:42 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: so, you should adjust the upstart job to use: start on starting click-system-hooks | 13:42 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: instead | 13:42 |
| Wellark | greyback: I will share the draft of the whitepaper with you as soon as I have it in decent shape and we can go through the details | 13:42 |
| Wellark | I would really appreciate your input on it | 13:43 |
| sletta | Wellark / greyback: You might want to know that the lighthouse scene graph has no correlation to the Qt Quick scene graph | 13:43 |
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| cwayne | jdstrand: ah ok so we just weren't starting early enough | 13:43 |
| cwayne | but then i wonder why it worked on subsequent reboots? | 13:43 |
| cwayne | or does click-system-hooks only run once? | 13:44 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: but we should get rsalveti's input. I'm not very familiar with the early boot (system-image stuff, etc) | 13:44 |
| Wellark | sletta: sure, lighthouse was first | 13:44 |
| Wellark | they took the name at least :) | 13:44 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: on subsequent reboots, the clicks didn't change so there was nothing to redo | 13:44 |
| johnvt | Bueller? | 13:45 |
| Wellark | sletta: didn't lighthouse became the basis of QPA for Qt5 in the end? | 13:45 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: ah, right, so start on starting apparmor was good enough in those cases | 13:45 |
| sletta | different lighthouse | 13:45 |
| johnvt | Does anyone know if you can install 14.04 without network access? | 13:45 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: so the click-apparmor might've run, but nothing changed, so it didn't update the cache. then apparmor comes along later and creates the cache for the files that aren't there | 13:45 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: ah, okay | 13:46 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: but, I'd like rsalveti's input | 13:46 |
| Wellark | sletta: anyway, it's irrelevant for the present, but nice memories from the past :) | 13:46 |
| sletta | :) | 13:47 |
| jdstrand | rsalveti: so the custom-apparmor-cache job did work on first boot because it started after click-system-hooks. I suggested using 'start on starting click-system-hooks' instead. click-system-hooks uses 'start on filesystem'. do you see any problems? | 13:48 |
| Wellark | sletta: I remember walking into a ordinary meeting | 13:48 |
| jdstrand | rsalveti: sorry, it didn't work on first boot | 13:48 |
| Wellark | and being amazed that everyone walking in through the door were asked straight away to sign an extra NDA | 13:48 |
| Wellark | even though we had full access already | 13:48 |
| Wellark | it was clear that the news were going to be big | 13:48 |
| Wellark | and then we were told that Nokia is acquiring Trolltech | 13:49 |
| Wellark | the happiest day of my life | 13:49 |
| Wellark | then again.. in a retro spect everything became quite bitter sweet | 13:49 |
| sletta | indeed :) | 13:49 |
| sletta | I was terrified that day, to be honest.. | 13:50 |
| sletta | but I grew to like it | 13:50 |
| Wellark | sletta: well, I had been working on a team that did tehcnology demoes that utilized Qt for two years before the acqusition | 13:51 |
| Wellark | so we were excited | 13:51 |
| Wellark | as we had demonstrated the power of Qt multiple times over | 13:51 |
| Wellark | it felt natural to us | 13:51 |
| Wellark | and felt like the thing of the future and new times of prosperity | 13:52 |
| Wellark | bitter sweet... | 13:52 |
| Mirv | oh it was this channel, but anyway (just looked at my highlights window) | 13:53 |
| barry | kenvandine, asac i've been looking at this too, but mostly in the context of testing si 2.4. i notice fewer odd things on image #47. note that the signals si-dbus sends hasn't changed, and the UpdateProgress signal is plumbed straight through from udm (except the initial 0,0 signal) | 13:56 |
| asac | yes, i feel it got better | 13:57 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Just flashed the latest onto a mako - but I'm not getting any WiFi networks. Anyone else seeing that? | 13:58 |
| asac | but its still not really good end user experience imo | 13:58 |
| FunnyLookinHat | asac, can you elaborate? | 13:59 |
| barry | asac: the thing that bothers me is that the ui says "installing" when it's really downloading. it's only *really* installing the update when you click on "reboot and install" | 13:59 |
| tedg | mpt, Does the "Messages on Welcome Screen" setting effect the messaging menu? Or just "Notifications and quick settings" one? | 14:01 |
| ogra_ | i think it only affects the usermetrics (the stuff in the cycle) | 14:02 |
| ogra_ | (well, it did in the past, not sure how it changed since i last tried it) | 14:02 |
| nik90 | charles: ping (request) | 14:03 |
| charles | nik90, pong (response) | 14:03 |
| nik90 | charles: hey would it be possible to take a screenshot of the alarm notification in https://code.launchpad.net/~charlesk/indicator-datetime/lp-1370594-refresh-notifications-to-match-design/+merge/235025 | 14:03 |
| nik90 | charles: i reflashed my phone and don't have the packages anymore | 14:03 |
| charles | nik90, sure, one minute | 14:04 |
| nik90 | thnx | 14:04 |
| charles | nik90, http://i.imgur.com/FkKZvQP.jpg | 14:08 |
| nik90 | charles: thnx a lot :) | 14:08 |
| mailyaseen | popey : can i have move installed apps from apps section to a new section..? | 14:08 |
| mailyaseen | popey : i want to keep important apps like phone, msg, calls and couple of more in one section and others in another section.. | 14:09 |
| dobey | mailyaseen: no, but there are 6 apps pinned to the top, including phone, messaging, and contacts | 14:13 |
| dobey | mailyaseen: you can also pin apps to the launcher (that opens swiping in slightly from the left edge) | 14:14 |
| mailyaseen | popry : ohh okay: Thanks... | 14:16 |
| mailyaseen | popey : Thank you | 14:16 |
| mailyaseen | popey : any future plans of double tap to wake feature | 14:17 |
| popey | mailyaseen: not that I'm aware of | 14:30 |
| mailyaseen | popey : ohh okay | 14:30 |
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| dobey | mzanetti: can you re-review https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/unity8/purchase-unprogress/+merge/234747 please? | 14:45 |
| mzanetti | dobey: ack | 14:48 |
| mzanetti | alecu: do you think I need to test this again or are we ok if I only do a code review? ^ | 14:49 |
| alecu | mzanetti: code review is fine, thanks | 14:53 |
| mzanetti | alecu: ack | 14:54 |
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| charles | davmor2, ping | 15:13 |
| charles | davmor2, I'm not able to reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-datetime/+bug/1364088, could you retest and see if the problem is still showing up for you? | 15:14 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1364088 in Indicator Date and Time "When the alarm ringing length is set to 10 minutes in clock app, it rings for 11 minutes." [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:14 |
| jgdx | mpt, pings | 15:16 |
| davmor2 | charles: will do in a bit | 15:16 |
| charles | davmor2, thanks | 15:16 |
| cwayne | rsalveti: so the custom-apparmor-cache job didnt work on first boot because it started after click-system-hooks. jdstrand suggested using 'start on starting click-system-hooks' instead. click-system-hooks uses 'start on filesystem'. do you see any problems? | 15:31 |
| rsalveti | cwayne: nops | 15:37 |
| rsalveti | go for it | 15:37 |
| rsalveti | jdstrand: looks fine :-) | 15:38 |
| jdstrand | cool, thanks | 15:38 |
| cwayne | thanks rsalveti jdstrand :) i'll get a branch up and in a silo soon as i'm back from lunch :D | 15:39 |
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| lool | cwayne: hey! | 15:44 |
| nik90 | tvoss: Silo ubuntu-rtm 013, works as expected on RTM Image #43. | 15:45 |
| tvoss | nik90, thank you | 15:45 |
| tvoss | nik90, device? | 15:46 |
| nik90 | tvoss: mako | 15:46 |
| tvoss | nik90, thank you | 15:46 |
| nik90 | np | 15:46 |
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| davmor2 | charles, nik90: alarm triggered at 17:00, I'll keep an eye on it | 16:00 |
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| davmor2 | charles, nik90: looks fixed here now \o/ | 16:10 |
| cwayne | lool: heya | 16:16 |
| lool | cwayne: looking at landing the espoo/here rtm silo; do you have an updated tarball ready? can we publish it now? | 16:17 |
| lool | davmor2: is the silo granted by QA now? | 16:17 |
| davmor2 | lool: we were just dicussing it on the landing meeting I can flick the granted switch | 16:18 |
| lool | ok | 16:18 |
| lool | davmor2: what we have in rtm image today is basically broken; this gets us at least a stable baseline that we can fix | 16:18 |
| lool | with a manageable list of issues | 16:19 |
| cwayne | lool: it's in 14.09-proposed-customized, we'd need qa signonff before we can move it to 14.09-proposed | 16:21 |
| lool | cwayne: are there other changes than my update between the two? | 16:21 |
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| cwayne | lool: yes, there's also pre-compiled apparmor cache, but it doesnt work atm (but a fix is being prepared) | 16:23 |
| mpt | asac, I reported the bug I thought you were talking about as bug 1371157, but I still don’t know what you actually were talking about :-) | 16:23 |
| ubot5 | bug 1371157 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Restart prompt interrupts immediately when visiting "Updates"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1371157 | 16:23 |
| popey | woah, i have an accurate location in osmtouch! | 16:24 |
| popey | well, fairly accurate. it thinks I'm standing on a railway line | 16:24 |
| popey | NO CARRIER.... | 16:25 |
| lool | davmor2: (see above from cwayne_ | 16:27 |
| davmor2 | cwayne: where this tarball and did you let QA know it needed testing? | 16:38 |
| cwayne | davmor2: not yet as I was going to try and get more fixes in first | 16:38 |
| cwayne | davmor2: but it's at 14.09-proposed-customized | 16:38 |
| davmor2 | cwayne: ah right okay | 16:38 |
| davmor2 | lool: in that case I'll do a quick reflash and double check that nothing regresses with the silo installed and then we can go ahead and land that, does that sound like a plan? | 16:39 |
| lool | davmor2: not sure what you're proposing, but yeah whatever | 16:40 |
| davmor2 | lool: just keep your eye on the silo :) | 16:42 |
| lool | davmor2: how do you mean? | 16:44 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: hows this: https://code.launchpad.net/~cwayne18/ubuntu-touch-customization-hooks/start-apparmor-cache-earlier/+merge/235171 | 16:45 |
| asac | mpt: i think pmcgowan filed the "REAL" one now :) | 16:50 |
| asac | (about install progress bar experience) | 16:51 |
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| kibibyte | hi | 17:02 |
| kibibyte | can i install ubuntu-touch on nexus 7 2013 LTE ? | 17:02 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: looks good :) | 17:02 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: cool :) i even made sure to make a new tarball with newer clicks so that the click-hooks would actually be running too | 17:03 |
| kibibyte | can i install ubuntu-touch on nexus 7 2013 LTE ? | 17:03 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Ubuntu Touch seems to make stuff unbootable... With my flo device I can only get into fastboot mode, and I can't flash anything using [ fastboot flash ]... | 17:05 |
| kibibyte | SonikkuAmerica, do you have nexus 7 3g ? | 17:05 |
| kibibyte | 2013 | 17:05 |
| SonikkuAmerica | This is flo, which means Wi-Fi only (which is the base for tablet development) | 17:06 |
| kibibyte | SonikkuAmerica, i have 33 can i install utouch on this ? | 17:06 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I'm not sure. | 17:07 |
| kibibyte | 3g | 17:07 |
| kibibyte | ill try , whoi cares | 17:07 |
| kibibyte | hm i have custom recoevery already | 17:08 |
| kibibyte | can i use twrp recovery for installing utouch ? | 17:11 |
| SonikkuAmerica | If you use ubuntu-device-flash it will install a modded CWM | 17:12 |
| kibibyte | not good | 17:12 |
| kibibyte | normally i just needed .zip file with image and it works | 17:13 |
| Wellark | Chipaca: how about that quick hangout? | 17:15 |
| Wellark | or did you already leave? | 17:15 |
| Chipaca | Wellark: i'm on my way out | 17:15 |
| Wellark | Chipaca: ack | 17:15 |
| Wellark | Chipaca: have a great evening then! :) | 17:15 |
| Chipaca | Wellark: you too! | 17:16 |
| dobey | !devices | kibibyte | 17:16 |
| ubot5 | kibibyte: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 17:16 |
| dobey | kibibyte: "deb" has images built on the alternate community system-image server | 17:17 |
| kibibyte | dobey, yeah this one http://system-image.tasemnice.eu | 17:17 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Stupid remote: flash write failures.... | 17:17 |
| dobey | yes | 17:17 |
| kibibyte | dobey, but i already have twrp recovery and cyanogenmod , I dont want another recovery | 17:17 |
| kibibyte | just want to backupo cyanogenmod and install utouch from twrp | 17:18 |
| kibibyte | is it possible | 17:18 |
| kibibyte | ? | 17:18 |
| dobey | kibibyte: i don't know. i think you're on your own for that | 17:18 |
| kibibyte | dobey, on http://system-image.tasemnice.eu theres no images to dwonload i see only some .tz files | 17:26 |
| dobey | kibibyte: uh, there are images there. there may not be the sideloaded zip file you're wanting, but it has images that are installable with ubuntu-device-flash | 17:27 |
| dobey | kibibyte: if you want to do it the hard way, like i said, i think you're on your own | 17:27 |
| kibibyte | dobey, is there any way to download it somehow | 17:27 |
| dobey | wget? | 17:28 |
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| dobey | i'm not quite sure how the multiboot app works (if it installs a different recovery or what), but it might work too | 17:30 |
| ogra_ | the deb port is maintained by the same person that maintains/wrote multirom | 17:31 |
| ogra_ | so i guess it will just work fine | 17:31 |
| SonikkuAmerica | So I was able to load TWRP from the command line, but it couldn't mount anything... :( | 17:33 |
| dobey | ogra_: yes it will work. i meant with regards to the recovery image though | 17:34 |
| ogra_ | ah, yeah. no idea about thaat | 17:34 |
| pmcgowan | charles, do you work on BT indicator? | 18:49 |
| pmcgowan | have a bug I need to assign | 18:49 |
| charles | pmcgowan, cyphermox and I have both done work on it lately, feel free to assign it to me | 18:49 |
| pmcgowan | charles, thanks | 18:51 |
| charles | pmcgowan, url? | 18:51 |
| davmor2 | charles: aka sucker for punishment ;) | 18:51 |
| charles | if it's deep into the guts of BT, I'll probably get cyphermox for help, he's better at that than I am | 18:52 |
| charles | "help" | 18:52 |
| pmcgowan | it seems more UI type bug | 18:52 |
| cyphermox | pmcgowan: the disconnect one for some speakers? | 18:52 |
| pmcgowan | cyphermox, no this is the indicator not restoring itself when BT turned back on | 18:53 |
| cyphermox | oh wait | 18:53 |
| cyphermox | indicator, I see ;) | 18:53 |
| pmcgowan | it shows up but its empty | 18:53 |
| cyphermox | I haven | 18:53 |
| cyphermox | haven't ever touched the indicator | 18:53 |
| charles | cyphermox, I'm thinking of the good BT work you did for ubuntu-system-settings | 18:55 |
| charles | cyphermox, you're the go-to BT guy | 18:55 |
| charles | but I agree with pmcgowan, this sounds more like an issue with the indicator itself | 18:57 |
| MisuMihai | hello , how do i ask questions here ? | 19:04 |
| genii | MisuMihai: You just state the problem or question as clearly as you can to everyone, and then wait | 19:06 |
| MisuMihai | Ok, i'm trying to instal ubuntu touch on a chinese tablet, will it work ? | 19:14 |
| genii | MisuMihai: Odds are probably not. But you could check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices and see if it's already on the list | 19:16 |
| mhall119 | hey, the new emulator image is asking me for a passphrase, who knows what that is? | 19:19 |
| mhall119 | sergiusens: ogra_ ^^ ? | 19:20 |
| mhall119 | and why does the emulator image default to having a passphrase anyway? | 19:21 |
| mhall119 | hmmm, seems I need a password on my own device now too... | 19:31 |
| mhall119 | popey: do you know what the password is for devices now? | 19:32 |
| mhall119 | 'phablet' no longer works | 19:33 |
| mhall119 | zbenjamin: bzoltan: Filed a bug for this one too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/+bug/1371286 | 19:49 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1371286 in qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu "Running scope twice fails due to existing install" [Undecided,New] | 19:49 |
| mhall119 | sorry, that's not password related, it's scope running ^^ | 19:56 |
| mhall119 | too many IRC windows | 19:57 |
| zbenjamin | mhall119: how did you stop the scope? From qtc? or removed the cable? | 20:13 |
| mhall119 | zbenjamin: I don't remember now, I ran it last night and tried again today | 20:36 |
| zbenjamin | mhall119: pulling the cable while its still open will result in that problem | 20:36 |
| zbenjamin | mhall119: sadly i do not get the SIGHUP signal then the cable is pulled | 20:37 |
| zbenjamin | mhall119: i guess the shell is just killed if that happens | 20:37 |
| mhall119 | I very likely did that | 20:38 |
| mhall119 | zbenjamin: unfortunately the phablet user's password has changed and "adb shell" now logs me is a that user, so I can't currently uninstall my stope | 20:39 |
| mhall119 | scope | 20:39 |
| zbenjamin | mhall119: you can uninstall it as a user, with pkcon but i don't have the command at hand now | 20:39 |
| cwayne | mhall119: phablet user's password is the passcode/passphrase to unlock | 20:40 |
| mhall119 | cwayne: any idea what that user password might be? | 20:41 |
| zbenjamin | mhall119: it did not change, you had to set the password or code yourself on the phone | 20:42 |
| zbenjamin | mhall119: only on the emulator it would be 0000 | 20:42 |
| mhall119 | zbenjamin: I'll try that on the emulator, I didn't change my password on my phone though | 20:47 |
| mhall119 | ah, it set to my pin now | 20:49 |
| mhall119 | thanks zbenjamin | 20:49 |
| zbenjamin | mhall119: np | 20:50 |
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| mhall119 | zbenjamin: this whole "you can't run something from the SDK if it's already installed" limitation is going to be frustrating to developers, is there an alternative? | 20:53 |
| zbenjamin | mhall119: well the alternative is breaking already installed apps | 20:54 |
| zbenjamin | mhall119: we probably could add a "force install" checkbox somewhere | 20:54 |
| mhall119 | zbenjamin: would it be possible to just prefix the appid with "test." anywhere it's used? | 20:55 |
| zbenjamin | mhall119: thats no solution, then you end up with 10 apps installed each with a prefix test.test.test.test.test.test.test.myappid | 20:57 |
| mhall119 | more like test.com.ubuntu.developer.mhall119.appname | 20:57 |
| mhall119 | but now that I think about it, there's probably too many places that needs to be done to reliably do it with a script | 20:58 |
| zbenjamin | mhall119: i don't really like the prefix idea, i thought about that too before. But i don't know that the appid is already used before the click package is on the phone. That means i would have to unpack it, fix the file, and then click build it again | 20:59 |
| zbenjamin | time to catch some sleep | 21:04 |
| * zbenjamin --> out | 21:04 | |
| cwayne | jdstrand: ping | 21:06 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: hey | 21:11 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: hey, so i was trying out a custom tarball with the core apps included, and i'm seeing a bunch of apparmor denials | 21:16 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8375131/ | 21:16 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: it looks like CLICK_DIR is not properly set in the profile | 21:17 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: can you paste 'cat /var/lib/apparmor/profiles/click_com.ubuntu.gallery_gallery_2.9.1.1056' | 21:18 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8375162/ | 21:19 |
| jdstrand | @{CLICK_DIR}="/usr/share/click/preinstalled" | 21:20 |
| jdstrand | click isn't giving click-apparmor the right directory it seems | 21:20 |
| jdstrand | let me check something | 21:20 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: hm, how can we get that properly set? | 21:20 |
| cwayne | i bet it's getting confused as the clicks are likely the same version.. | 21:21 |
| jdstrand | cwayne: I'm guessing the versions of the apps exist in both /usr/share and custom | 21:21 |
| jdstrand | right | 21:21 |
| cwayne | yeah | 21:21 |
| jdstrand | right, so, click-apparmor is just resolving symlinks in /var/lib/apparmor/clicks | 21:24 |
| jdstrand | so there isn't anything more it can do | 21:25 |
| jdstrand | click is probably preferring the preinstalled directory over /custom | 21:25 |
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| jdstrand | you'd want to either talk to cjwatson about that or simply adjust your scripts to remove things from /custom that are already in preinstalled | 21:26 |
| cwayne | jdstrand: right, but we're trying to move the stuff from /usr/share/click/preinstalled into /custom :) | 21:26 |
| cwayne | i'll poke cjwatson tomorrow, perhaps it's as simple as having click preferring /custom (which i would have assumed it did tbh) | 21:27 |
| darthanubis | anyone running touch on a nexus2013wifi tablet? | 21:51 |
| popey | darthanubis: yes | 22:15 |
| doneill | ubuntu touch on a cheap allwinner tablet, yey. | 22:29 |
| popey | doneill: you ported it? | 22:29 |
| doneill | not yet :( | 22:35 |
| doneill | but i do have debian running on it already | 22:35 |
| doneill | although that has nothing to do with it | 22:35 |
| doneill | running repo, which seems to take ~17 years to complete. | 22:35 |
| tvoss | hmmm, who can help me bootstrapping a .pot file? | 22:42 |
| nhaines | dobey: thanks! | 22:53 |
| tvoss | popey, ping | 22:54 |
| popey | tvoss: hello | 22:59 |
| tvoss | popey, unping :) | 22:59 |
| nhaines | Well that was easy. | 23:00 |
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