[00:03] <petals> hello. i'm having an issue with usb drives being opened up with chrome instead of thunar
[00:03] <petals> when i try to go to the usb drive in thunar it also launches chrome
[00:04] <petals> however, if i mount the drive manually i am able to access the files in thunar just fine
[00:31] <DoverMo> does a custom xorg go in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[00:31] <DoverMo> or does that get overwritten
[00:48] <Wlsonjl3> is there a way i can use http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/rank-my-computer on xubuntu?
[00:48] <Wlsonjl3> says i need Java
[00:50] <DoverMo> Wlsonjl3: you can install icedtea-7-plugin, which is java for the browser and pulls in openjdk 7 jre
[00:50] <DoverMo> Wlsonjl3: you can also attempt to use the proprietary java
[00:51] <Wlsonjl3> proprietary java?
[00:52] <DoverMo> Wlsonjl3: the inventor of java copyrighted the language and it basically belongs to oracle
[00:52] <DoverMo> Wlsonjl3: which is why we have openjdk
[00:52] <Wlsonjl3> oh ok
[00:52] <DoverMo> and icedtea
[02:16] <nobody18188181> does xubuntu 14.04.1 have the "draggable" display settings menu?
[02:44] <sheap_> so if I have lightdm --session and gdm-session running at the same time, will that cuase problems? When I try to logout from the system tray it hangs for a really long time, and when I logout from the applications menu it seems to execute a different command (which works sometimes and sometimes not)
[02:46] <sheap_> still here :P
[02:48] <DoverMo> O:
[02:48] <DoverMo> sheap_: why are you running gdm
[02:49] <sheap_> DoverMo: er woops, I mean xfce4-session
[02:49] <DoverMo> sheap_: no
[02:50] <sheap_> DoverMo: any idea what it could be?
[02:50] <DoverMo> sheap_: I was hoping you had some ideas O:
[02:51] <sheap_> haha dang. Is there a way to see which commands are being called/errors?
[02:51] <sheap_> or is that just syslog
[02:51] <DoverMo> sheap_: did you change anything?
[02:52] <sheap_> DoverMo: nope, stock install
[02:52] <DoverMo> sheap_: do you have vt-d enabled?
[02:53] <sheap_> DoverMo: that's a good question, why would that matter?
[02:53] <DoverMo> cuz it can cause lag
[02:53] <sheap_> it lags the logout?
[02:53] <sheap_> even if xubuntu is installed on the bare metal /not a vm
[02:54] <DoverMo> sheap_: what processor?/
[02:54] <sheap_> DoverMo: i7
[02:54] <DoverMo> sheap_: do you think vt-d is enabled?
[02:55] <sheap_> most likely, but there's a chance it's not. I'll have to check when i ge tback home
[02:57] <DoverMo> sheap_: that's my best guess. what gpu drivers using?
[02:57] <DoverMo> sheap_: and maybe, did you change any fstab options?
[02:58] <sheap_> DoverMo: nope nothing changed, nvidia drivers (331.38 I believe)
[02:58] <sheap_> why would fstab affect logout?
[02:59] <DoverMo> fstab options can affect speed in huge ways
[02:59] <DoverMo> but since you didn't change it, it's not a cocern
[02:59] <sheap_> DoverMo: okay, I'll doublecheck soon
[05:14] <Vampi> приветики :)
[07:08] <phasip> I have setup LightDm for autologin, and it works most of the time. But every now and then after a reboot it doesn't autologin which is frustrating since the computer doesn't have a keyboard
[09:27] <xubuntu85w> I'm having very slow internet connection on my xubuntu can anyone help?
[09:27] <xubuntu85w> I'm in an office enviroment if that makes a difference
[10:54] <xubuntu85w> I'm having very slow internet connection on my xubuntu can anyone help?
[10:54] <xubuntu85w> I'm in an office enviroment if that makes a difference
[10:55] <Azelphur> xubuntu85w: mtr is great for diagnosing network problems, try running mtr 8.8.8.8
[12:07] <gnucku> hey weld_
[12:07] <gnucku> the update && upgrade didn't work :(
[12:08] <ObrienDave> gnucku, exactly what command did you use?
[12:08] <gnucku> hey
[12:08] <gnucku> sorry, this was a follow up from yesterday
[12:08] <gnucku> where weld_ tried to help me
[12:08] <gnucku> i have some graphical problems
[12:09] <ObrienDave> not what i asked
[12:09] <gnucku> and he suggested me to run a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[12:09] <gnucku> it worked, ofc
[12:09] <gnucku> but did not solve my problem
[12:09] <ObrienDave> ok, what was the problem?
[12:10] <gnucku> i have an invisble mouse cursor
[12:10] <gnucku> other graphical problems
[12:10] <gnucku> such as invisible icons, that sometimes turn visible when selected
[12:11] <ObrienDave> hmm, beyond my knowledge of Linux in general
[12:11] <gnucku> my terminal window has solid color as background, but a ctrl+L or running command turn the entire background or parts of it into transparency
[12:12] <gnucku> i think it's xubuntu that may not be dealing well with the old graphics card
[12:12] <gnucku> or the old desktop in general
[14:54] <LeMike> hello. when I lock xfce and unlock again, the keyboard only works again after clicking in a different window. does someone else have this problem or know a fix? I searched the web and found nothing
[15:00] <brainwash> LeMike: you could replace light-locker with xscreensaver (or any other screen locker)
[15:07] <brainwash> LeMike: this does not seem to be a known issue, but there are various problems which are caused by light-locker as a result of vt switching
[15:08] <brainwash> http://xubuntu.org/news/screen-locking-in-xubuntu-14-04/
[15:08] <LeMike> i used xflock4 but try light-locker now because xscreensaver didn't react after my keyb shortcut brainwash
[15:09] <brainwash> xflock4 is a simple script, it checks a list of screen locking apps and tries to launch the first one it finds
[15:27] <phasip> I am trying to create a custom keyboard layout, but it does not appear in ibus preferences =/ not even changing the name of an old one appears.  trying to edit files in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols. I have tried removing the xkm files from /var/lib/xkb
[18:08] <Travis> Good afternoon.
[18:11] <alan_o> I'm going partially mad with thunderbird.  I can't seem to manage to make it not take up almost 2 CPUs and pound the network.
[18:11] <alan_o> and I also can't click https links. ugh
[18:11] <alan_o> 14.10 bets
[18:11] <alan_o> beta
[18:12] <Travis> That's why I am sticking with the LTS.
[18:13] <alan_o> yeah, but if nobody tests the beta, the release won't be of quality.
[18:14] <Unit193> alan_o: Indeed, thanks for testing.  Do you run package tests?  I can't say for tbirdy myself as I don't use it.
[18:14] <alan_o> I've about had it with thunderbird anyway. 12 years and the text rendering still has bugs, the network link is fragile (doesn't handle crappy networks and connect/disconnect), etc.
[18:14] <GridCube> alan_o, :) if you are testing the beta please remember to fill the report at iso.qa
[18:15] <alan_o> Unit193: Not sure what you mean by package tests.
[18:15] <borw3> Hmm, How can I download a file through axel if it's original link is a redirection.
[18:16] <alan_o> GridCube: yeah, I need to get some more information about the problem.
[18:16] <alan_o> I think it's indexing, but I have that turned off.
[18:16] <alan_o> and I have sync turned off.
[18:16] <priuon> hello. How can the reuse of xapplications be configured? (example opening a text file can use an opened texteditor with new tab on the workspace globally and even pull the window to current space or switch to the space of the app...)
[18:19] <Unit193> borw3: Depends, one way is if you use firefox, start downloading in that then copy the link from the download window.  sf.net links you just trim the '/download' to download it directly.
[18:19] <GridCube> !info wmctrl | priuon
[18:21] <alan_o> Also, I had to manually turn on arrow buttons for scroll bars. I'm sure people could argue about whether we should have those, but scrolling though a lot of email is near impossible without them if you don't have a scroll wheel.
[18:21] <priuon> GridCube the description does not describe wmctrl to do configuration...
[18:21] <GridCube> http://linux.die.net/man/1/wmctrl
[18:23] <borw3> Unit193: Thanks
[18:28] <priuon> GridCube: the manpage does not indicate wmctrl to be able to do the job
[18:31] <GridCube> well, its the only tool i know that allows you to manage applications, move them and perform actions over them in a graphical stance
[18:31] <priuon> oh. it seems to be a lot of fun to have it...
[18:31] <GridCube> theres a different tool that emulates mouse actions called wodotool but i don't think its on the ubuntu repositories
[18:32] <priuon> GridCube: I still need to be able to configure the reusing policys. Is there maybe some *.conf in etc ?
[18:32] <GridCube> ritght, because its xdotool
[18:32] <GridCube> XD
[18:32] <GridCube> !info xdotool
[18:33] <GridCube> priuon, sorry i do not know
[18:33] <GridCube> can you explain better what you need priuon ?
[18:36] <priuon> gedit and other apps that have tabbing for multiple files will have a new tab in an open window for files I open in thunar
[18:37] <priuon> it only uses instances on the same workspace. I remember it pulling instances from other workspaces but this behavior disappeared somehow.
[18:40] <Unit193> priuon: Window Manager Tweaks => Focus
[18:46] <priuon> Unit193: I missed that ... the reuse does not appear there though
[19:21] <priuon> might dconf be able to do the configuration? someone told me to use it before.
[19:21] <priuon> I don't know how to use it though
[19:24] <priuon> it seems to show a gnome configuration on unparametrized launch though.
[19:24] <priuon> the dconf-editor ...
[19:37] <priuon> when booting to text how can I choose a DM? running xstart starts a xfce session with no login-gui
[19:38] <brainwash> sudo start lightdm
[19:39] <priuon> from tty?
[19:43] <brainwash> yes
[19:43] <priuon> thanks
[19:44] <brainwash> this will start the lightdm service
[19:48] <priuon> I'll check
[20:10] <fedaykin_> hello ,  des francais ici ?
[20:10] <fedaykin_> je viens de reinstaller mon linux
[20:11] <fedaykin_> pas mal la nouvelle installation, super simple a installer
[20:11] <Pici> !fr
[20:11] <fedaykin_> ok, sorry
[20:12] <fedaykin_> I m install my new linux, it s great !!!
[20:12] <ref> it seems to work as expected. thanks brainwash
[20:14] <ref> I would like to install icewm. Do I need to install some dm along with it?
[20:15] <brainwash> ref: no, a dm is optional
[20:17] <priuon> how about lubuntu. Are the packages {lubuntu,xubuntu,ubuntu,kubuntu}  meant to be installed on a single linux install?
[20:19] <brainwash> yes and no
[20:20] <brainwash> you can do that, but you might encounter various problems
[20:20] <priuon> I'd like to try the other 3 DEs
[20:21] <priuon> full blown installation seems a bit much effort though
[20:21] <Unit193> You can also just install the DEs.
[20:22] <priuon> Unit193 thats what I asked. I imagine it beeing errorprone.
[20:24] <drc> priuon:  Or you could just get a usb stick, install the livecd/DVD with persistence enabled and try that.
[20:24] <Unit193> Mhmm, that works well too.
[20:24] <priuon> I'll try installing icewm for once... I had xubuntu 12.04 running alongside some other wms. Installing the buntu DEs is new for me though
[20:26] <priuon> I have some cd and dvd blanks I would use for it. But I don't see any use in having multiple linux installs running in such a manner
[20:27] <priuon> it would suffice having seen the thing like that I guess...
[20:32] <priuon> drc: i figured i just use the spare usbstick i am carrying around now and then... how is the live stick best set-up?
[20:33] <drc> priuon: Depends on how big it is.
[20:34] <priuon> drc:8gig
[20:36] <drc> Well, if you're just going to use it just to sample the *buntu's, I'd make a 4 gig partition with gparted and use something like unetbootin to burn the iso to that partition.  Make sure to enable the persistence option so it will save your changes. You could use the whole stick if you want (and make the perseistence really big :)
[20:38] <borw3> Guys, why is there no ffprobe in xubuntu 14.04?
[20:38] <drc> I don't think (but don't know) you can make multiple partitions and burn the iso from different *buntu to the different partitions and make them all bootable.
[20:40] <Unit193> borw3: Try avprobe.
[20:40] <Unit193> It comes in libav-tools.
[20:41] <priuon> oh btw the Networkmonitor panelitem won't monitor my eth0 .... any ideas what's wrong there?
[20:41] <priuon> I've set the interface up statically
[20:58] <priuon> will lubuntu need 4gb to run with mostly lowlevel utils added?
[20:58] <priuon> If 2 gb were enough I'd go with that
[21:00]  * m3n3chm0 nasZ
[21:00] <xangua> Depends of the programs you use,only the lxde desktop needs 96 RAM as minimum
[21:03] <priuon> xanga: oh i am talking about installation size. ram is not a problem atm
[21:04] <xangua> Then again, depends of the apps you use
[21:05] <xangua> You can use a virtual machine to test
[21:05] <priuon> sure. as i said standard install and mostly text based .. maybe gedit if not present a gui hexeditor and a calculator :9
[21:08] <priuon> does qemu get the job done?
[21:12] <priuon> what partitiontable other than msdos will boot with bios/uefi machines and is suited for a linux/ubuntu type distro?
[21:17] <priuon> drc: uhm the netbootin wants a value for crossboot-fileallocationspace-size I have no idea how to set it. Also a persistance flag option is not visible from unetbootin starts in
[21:29] <drc> priuon: 1) no idea, never saw that, 2) it's been a while, maybe they've discontinued that option.
[21:32] <priuon> drc: i guess the option is replaced with the allocation space input box
[21:32] <priuon> i put 1gb there.
[21:32] <priuon> let's see if it boots :)
[21:33] <priuon> bbl
[22:05] <kos_tom> hello
[22:05] <kos_tom> just installed Xubuntu 14.04
[22:06] <kos_tom> selected French as the language and keyboard layout during the installation
[22:06] <kos_tom> but no matter what I do, the keyboard layout is US
[22:06] <kos_tom> the file /etc/default/keyboard contains the right configuration (french)
[22:06] <kos_tom> but it's still a US keyboard layout that's used when I login
[22:16] <priuon> lubuntu boots from the pendrive. the persistance flag didn't seem to hold though
[22:18] <priuon> not sure if it is set by default though. (first boot was without changing config, and it didn't persist my changes, the second time I checked the options and persistent was set by default. I might have to do a thirs boot)
[22:18] <priuon> *third
[22:47] <weld_> can i make the icons on the desktop stay in certain order?
[22:52] <mikeche1en> alphabetic?