[05:15] <valorie> damn, it seems 55% no on Scottish independence
[05:15] <valorie> only the highlands not yet counted
[05:18]  * tsimpson is glad they voted to stay
[05:27] <valorie> I have very mixed feelings
[05:29] <tsimpson> it was a very high turnout so at least it's a legitimate result
[05:30] <valorie> oh, for sure
[06:51] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:19] <sgclark> apachelogger: I tried to ask you about the kfilemetadata path yesterday but you were away, was that another ECM break?
[11:29] <sgclark> nm
[11:42] <apachelogger> sgclark: yes no, not really, please make sure that the include path in debian/rules says 3 rather than 2
[11:42] <apachelogger> the 2 thingy is for kde4 (and used to work for 5 stuff because we had patched ECM) the 3 thing is for ECM based software
[11:43] <apachelogger> at this point if paths are changing for no apparent reason it is because you there is a 2 where it should be 3
[11:43] <apachelogger> -include /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/2/debian-qt-kde.mk
[11:43] <apachelogger> +include /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/3/debian-qt-kde.mk
[11:44] <sgclark> ah ha, ok thanks I will look out for that apachelogger
[11:46] <apachelogger> FWIW I am not sure kfilemetadata should split the plugins btw
[11:49] <sgclark> that was part of the stuff santa was doing
[11:50] <sgclark> whom I have not seen since I got back
[11:50] <apachelogger> yeah, he's been gone for a while
[11:51] <apachelogger> also the baloo lib split seems overly pointless
[12:51] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://imgur.com/EKPo3Sg
[12:51] <shadeslayer> top post on reddit :D
[13:32] <soee_> shadeslayer: hehe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUR-HgAtwtg&feature=youtu.be :)
[13:32] <shadeslayer> lol
[13:32] <shadeslayer> ofcourse
[13:33] <shadeslayer> humans screw up
[13:34] <soee_> i said yesterday that scots wont win it, its just politic, bussiness etc, citizens vots are nothing
[13:41] <apachelogger> it's because jr left too early 
[13:41] <apachelogger> that's the problem
[13:41] <apachelogger> lunchpad is being weird again -.-
[13:42] <apachelogger> or maybe Oo
[13:42] <apachelogger> Oo oO
[13:42] <apachelogger> :O
[13:44] <apachelogger> oh ffs
[13:44] <soee_> :)
[13:47] <mcstr> http://s1.postimg.org/alw1y4j8v/Bildschirmfoto7.jpg  <-- is this a known bug?
[13:48] <soee_> what bug ?
[13:49] <mcstr> soee see how the kicker startmenu is so dark
[13:49] <mcstr> happens if i run it in foreground of firefox, but not for example in foreground of dolphin
[13:49] <apachelogger> this is not the plasma bug tracker
[13:49] <soee_> oh im not sure, im not using this menu
[13:50] <mcstr> apachelogger shall i try in projectneon then?
[13:52] <apachelogger> mcstr: project neon is not the plasma bug tracker either
[13:53] <mcstr> so where then ? :)
[13:54] <apachelogger> bugs.kde.org
[13:58] <mcstr> done :P
[15:14] <sgclark> 5.0.2 needs to be tested, do testers test from staging or ?
[15:16] <apachelogger> I'd say so yes
[15:18] <sgclark> !testers please test 5.0.2 http://goo.gl/a0ywC7
[15:18] <sgclark> blech
[15:18] <sgclark> !testers
[15:18] <sgclark> ^
[15:19] <sgclark> woohoo I don't have to test
[15:20] <lordievader> sgclark: Anything in particular, or add it to the sources and run a dist-upgrade?
[15:21] <sgclark> this is plasma 5 so if you  are using that then that should work I think
[15:26] <lordievader> I have the regular Kubuntu Next ppa enabled, and I think plasma5 is installed. However it doesn't show up in lightdm...
[15:26] <sgclark> err no, dist-upgrade wants to remove plasma5
[15:26] <BluesKaj> sorry, I'm sticking with plasma 4 for the time being, atm i don't have another stable OS as a fallback 
[15:29] <sgclark> ok, well anyone using plasma 5 in vm or otherwise, just do an upgrade with that ppa enabled. Thanks.
[15:31] <lordievader> sgclark: I'll try and get it installed. If that succeeds I'll see if I can test 5.0.2 ;)
[15:31] <sgclark> ok thank you.
[15:57] <lordievader> Shouldn't plasma-workspace be a depency of kubuntu-plasma5-meta?
[16:04] <apachelogger> no
[16:04] <apachelogger> plasma-workspace is for the most part an asset package
[16:04] <apachelogger> it provides thingsies a shell impelemntation of plasma will want
[16:04] <apachelogger> so meta -> plasma-desktop -> plasma-workspace
[16:04] <lordievader> kubuntu-plasma5-meta removed plasma4 but didn't give me plasma5.
[16:05] <apachelogger> lordievader: that sounds like bad dependencies somewhere then
[16:05] <apachelogger> plasma-workspace at any rate wouldn't give you a plasma
[16:05] <apachelogger> plasma-desktop would
[16:05] <lordievader> An older version of plasma-desktop was still there.
[16:06] <lordievader> I was digging around and figured that could be it. Only later I saw plasma-desktop.
[16:09] <apachelogger> mh
[16:09] <apachelogger> lordievader: I'd argue that simply installing the meta wouldn't upgrade existing packages
[16:09] <apachelogger> so you'd want to install and dist-upgrade
[16:09] <lordievader> apachelogger: It seems that was the problem. It's fixed now btw.
[16:09] <apachelogger> I can see the problem though, it's a bit of a mess to prevent though
[16:10] <lordievader> apachelogger: The meta package cannot depend on version >x?
[16:10] <apachelogger> no
[16:10] <apachelogger> because people didn't listen to me
[16:10] <lordievader> Hmm, yes that is a bit of a problem.
[16:10] <apachelogger> we have >=4:5.0 and >=5.0 depending on the package
[16:10] <apachelogger> and since 4: makes everything bigger there is no way to express both at the same time
[16:11] <apachelogger> so one would have to manually list the relevant version for all the packages
[16:11] <apachelogger> which is of course crap
[16:11] <lordievader> Change in versioning isn't a solution? (Getting rid of the 4: prefix...)
[16:16] <apachelogger> lordievader: that wouldn't work, everything needed 4: prefix
[16:16] <apachelogger> to which Riddell objected because it isn't technically necessary for new packages
[16:17] <lordievader> So in short... it is a mess?
[16:18] <apachelogger> exactly
[16:18] <lordievader> Great. Good luck on that ;)
[16:22] <apachelogger> -.-
[19:57]  * Mamarok is back with Utopic installed correctly
[19:58] <Mamarok> 2 things: the installer says "Thank you for installing Kubuntu 14.04..." I guess this is an overlook
[19:58] <Mamarok> also: default file manager appears to be Konqueror when opening a connected device from the panel...
[21:19] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, konkueror? not dolphin?
[21:26] <Mamarok> yep, opening a newly connected USB disk opens it with Konqueror, not with Dolphin
[22:03] <soee> when coonecting through ssh and doing some commit to my git repo i have this message: bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (pl_PL.utf8)
[22:03] <soee> any idea how to fix it ?