[02:50] <pitti> Good morning
[05:44] <didrocks> good morning
[06:50] <happyaron> 4444ff44454
[06:52] <happyaron> ah sorry
[06:53] <pitti`> happyaron: cat jumped on keyboard? :-)
[06:57] <happyaron> pitti`: nope, terminal freezes and it's me... :)
[07:29] <willcooke> morning
[07:35] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[07:39]  * FJKong say good morning to others
[07:39] <willcooke> Good afternoon FJKong :)  Nearly EOW for you! \o/
[07:40] <FJKong> willcooke: less than 3 hrs, lol
[07:40] <willcooke> :)
[07:40] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:40] <didrocks> morning FJKong
[07:40] <didrocks> welcome back seb128
[07:40] <seb128> didrocks, hey, thanks ;-)
[07:40] <willcooke> hi seb128
[07:41] <seb128> hey willcooke
[07:43] <FJKong> hey seb128
[07:45] <seb128> hey FJKong
[07:47] <FJKong> seb128: welcome back, I think I should talk with you about add pinyin searching to unity @ willcooke
[07:48] <seb128> FJKong, hey, sure, I read an email about that, I need to finish catching up with what happened while I was on vac this week and to go for some small errands, I'm back in less than 1 hour if you want to discuss that
[07:49] <FJKong> seb128: no problem, I will ping you next week, it is weekend for me already
[07:49] <willcooke> what do we think about encrypting the home directory by default?
[07:49] <seb128> FJKong, k, have a good w.e!
[08:04] <Laney> hello!
[08:06] <didrocks> morning Laney
[08:08] <Laney> what's up didrocks?
[08:08] <Laney> oh, it's friday, almost forgot!
[08:08] <didrocks> Laney: all good, and yourself?
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[08:10] <Laney> doing alright
[08:20] <willcooke> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2014-September/015048.html
[08:32] <Laney> what's 14.02?
[08:32] <willcooke> heh - yes, I thought that too
[08:33] <willcooke> I've looped qengho in to that conversation with mdeslaur and I think I'm going to email that guy directly too.
[08:34] <Laney> not sure it'll be very feasible to update trusty
[08:37] <willcooke> hopefully we can get 14.10 upgraded though, and then maybe we can make some kind of joint announcement
[08:37] <Laney> 14.10 already has the version he asks for
[08:37] <willcooke> oh - sweet
[08:37] <Laney> laney@iota> rmadison -s utopic libnss3                                                                                                     ~ libnss3 | 2:3.17-1ubuntu1 | utopic | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
[08:38] <willcooke> nice one, thanks Laney
[08:38] <Laney> I guessed that it works because pitti` was posting about netflix on G+ the other day ;-)
[08:39]  * willcooke adds pitti` to his circles
[08:45] <didrocks> eclipse behaves so weirdly on sigterm compared to intellij
[08:56] <Estilanda> hi!
[08:56] <Estilanda> Olga or Jouni?
[09:16] <willcooke> seb128, when you've got 10 mins can we chat re: my email where I said I couldn't be bothered to explain via email :)
[09:26] <seb128> willcooke, k,  I needed to go for some errands, I'm back but need to catchup a bit, let me 10 minutes
[09:27] <willcooke> seb128, no hurry at all, it can wait to Monday morning and our normal slot
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[10:19] <didrocks> interesting, android.developer.com servers are starting to send some 500 errors this morning
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[13:08] <Laney> hmm, no ffe yet for the gnome-desktop stuff
[13:13] <seb128> Laney, what is missing there?
[13:13] <Laney> file, approve, upload
[13:13] <Laney> accept, test, fix, be happy
[13:14] <Laney> I thought that robert_ancell was going to put that in this week
[13:20] <sil2100> Hello desktop team!
[13:20] <seb128> robert_ancell doesn't do much paperwork style of work usually ;-)
[13:22] <sil2100> I was in the middle of filling in the FFe for touch-specific packages when I noticed that mir is now partially part of the desktop images
[13:22] <sil2100> i.e. libmirclient8 is in the desktop images, pulled in by libgtk-3-0
[13:23] <sil2100> What should I do in this case? Is mir still feasible for a standing FFe?
[13:26] <Laney> what are they planning?
[13:27] <Laney> if stuff which breaks the gtk backend, probably not so cool
[13:32] <didrocks> Laney: I would ask for at least ABI stability
[13:33] <didrocks> willcooke: we lost you!
[13:33] <Laney> sil2100: I think you should go ask them what they're planning for the rest of this cycle
[13:33] <Laney> sil2100: In the meantime I'd ask for the easy stuff first
[13:33] <Laney> using that command I gave you
[13:33] <willcooke> didrocks, sorry, having technical issues all of a sudden
[13:34] <Laney> your call is important to us
[13:34] <seb128> ok, time for some exercice, bbl
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[13:40] <mitya57> Hi, can anybody check why the CI/merge wasn't triggered for https://code.launchpad.net/~mitya57/indicator-session/lp1363630/+merge/232813 ?
[13:41] <mitya57> (which was approved > a week ago)
[13:43] <Laney> mitya57: these things are manual nowadays
[13:45] <mitya57> Laney: can you do it? :)
[13:45] <Laney> afraid so
[13:46] <Laney> you have to use the ci train
[13:46]  * mitya57 rarely contributes to branches of this style, so missed the change
[13:47] <Laney> mitya57: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-008-1-build/64/console watch the magic
[13:48] <mitya57> Thanks a lot!
[13:48] <Laney> and then you get https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-008
[13:48] <mitya57> Laney: who has the permissions to do such magic?
[13:48] <Laney> add it, confirm it works, and then there's a pres butan to upload
[13:48] <Laney> I think core-dev
[13:49] <mitya57> So I just need to become a core-dev :)
[13:49] <Laney> AIUI the new system "CI airline" is smarter and actually looks at the per-package ACL
[13:50] <Laney> also has the benefit of not being jenkins
[14:04] <ricotz> Laney, hi, would be nice to get glib2.0 2.40.0-3 into trusty
[14:05] <Laney> ricotz: I'd quite like a stable release
[14:05] <Laney> want to poke mclasen to do one?
[14:06] <ricotz> Laney, huh, i mean the debian package ;)
[14:06] <Laney> I know
[14:06] <Laney> I want more than that :p
[14:06] <ricotz> ah, i see
[14:07] <Laney> I tried a poke a couple of weeks ago but it didn't work
[14:07] <Laney> so would appreciate a second person ...
[14:07] <ricotz> Laney, isnt poking desrt enough ;)
[14:07] <Laney> he redirected me
[14:08] <ricotz> oh
[14:08] <ricotz> hmm, quite some time since the last commit for 2.40
[14:09] <ricotz> i guess there are already more things/fixes worth to backport which would be more work than just tagging
[14:09] <didrocks> popey: thanks man!
[14:09] <desrt> i could do a release if you like
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[14:10] <desrt> i guess there have been a fair amount of fixes
[14:10] <Laney> I would enter a state of pleasedness
[14:10] <desrt> k.  i'll throw it on my today list
[14:10] <Laney> not sure if there's anything else in master worth cherry picking over
[14:11] <ricotz> desrt, great
[14:12] <mitya57> Laney: tested, works, can you press the button?
[14:13] <pitti> Laney: yeah, but I only got it to work with chrome; does it work with firefox now?
[14:14] <Laney> pitti: don't know, the q. was about chrome anyhow
[14:15] <popey> didrocks: np
[14:15] <Laney> mitya57: got to wait for that page to wake up
[14:15] <pitti> Laney: yeah, that works well, with an additional user-agent change plugin
[14:16] <Laney> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2014-September/015048.html says there is something Netflix can do to make that unnecessary ...
[14:17] <Laney> aha https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2014-September/015050.html
[14:23] <Laney> mitya57: done, please could you ping me when it migrates to utopic release?
[14:23] <Laney> one more pres butan to do then
[14:26] <mitya57> Ok, will ping
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[15:10] <brainwash> can we restore the old update-notifier tray icon functionality? there is a patch attached to bug 1246364, but it might need some additional rework (check for desktop environment)
[15:10] <ubot5> bug 1246364 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "update-notifier does not show a tray icon in xubuntu" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1246364
[15:11] <brainwash> the tray icon would be optional and enabled by default in non-unity sessions like xubuntu
[15:16] <mitya57> Laney: migrated
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[15:23] <Laney> blarg
[15:24] <ogra_> was that a jekyll/hyde thing ?
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[15:31] <mitya57> Now that you're really here: <mitya57> Laney: migrated
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[15:32] <Laney> mitya57: I think I did that
[15:32] <Laney> should have merged your branch
[15:32] <Laney> or maybe it's still running https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-008-3-merge-clean/21/console
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[16:12] <mitya57> Laney: thanks, it was merged.
[16:13] <Laney> great
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[17:16] <willcooke> merry weekend y'al
[17:16] <Laney> RIGHT
[17:16] <Laney> ha
[17:16] <Laney> what timing
[17:16] <Laney> bye too!
[17:16] <willcooke> see ya
[17:17] <Laney> seb128: I forgot to ask you how your trip to the seaside was!
[17:19] <seb128> Laney, quite nice, thanks! Weather was splendid, almost to warm (like 28°C without wind in the top of the afternoon)
[17:20] <Laney> what kind of september is this
[17:20] <seb128> yeah, go figure
[17:20] <seb128> it's another of those year where there is a nice/warm june, no decent summer in most of july/august and things are back to nice on septembre
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[17:25] <Laney> I think it's been pretty scorchio most of the time here
[17:25] <Laney> but today I have had my lamp on the whole time
[17:25] <Laney> suuuuuuuuper grey
[17:25] <Laney> okay, pub time
[17:25] <Laney> bye!
[17:26] <seb128> Laney, have fun&a good w.e
[17:38] <desrt> seb128: !
[17:38] <desrt> you're back
[17:39] <seb128> desrt, hey!
[17:40] <desrt> seb128: how was your break?
[17:41] <seb128> desrt, good, spending days with family on the north coast of France, relaxing and we had great weather
[17:41] <seb128> spending->spent
[17:42] <desrt> cool!
[17:42]  * desrt is going up to his parents cottage again soonish
[17:42] <desrt> no boston summit for me this year -- first time in a long one
[17:42] <seb128> yeah, I saw that a few days ago
[17:42] <seb128> going to spend thanksgiving in family as well
[17:43] <seb128> ;-)
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[18:36] <desrt> >:|
[18:36] <desrt> user panel in ubuntu is annoying wrt. passwords
[18:36] <desrt> it tells me "not good enough", as if i should care
[18:36] <desrt> and it won't let me set the password
[18:41] <mdeslaur> desrt: adjust /etc/security/pwquality.conf
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[18:44] <desrt> mdeslaur: why do we get a different standard applied when an admin is changing another user's password via 'passwd'?
[18:44] <mdeslaur> desrt: because the admin knows best
[18:44] <desrt> exactly
[18:44] <desrt> i'm complaining about the admin using the GUI tool to change another user's password
[18:44] <desrt> it won't let me do it, so i have to use the commandline
[18:45] <desrt> there's no extra security here -- only inconvenience
[18:45] <mdeslaur> ah, I see, yes