| racarr | yay...hypothetically cross built against rtm | 02:24 |
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| racarr | something didnt work | 02:32 |
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| alf_ | greyback: what is "wizard_socket"? | 08:49 |
| alf_ | greyback: (Good morning!) | 08:49 |
| greyback | alf_: hey. I've no idea, first I've heard of it | 08:50 |
| greyback | too early to make a harry pooter joke | 08:50 |
| greyback | alf_: I know hte startup wizard uses qtmir, as it needs to be a mir server in order to have an OSK client. Perhaps it decided to call its own socket that? | 08:51 |
| alf_ | greyback: Any idea where the start-up wizard project is? | 08:52 |
| greyback | alf_: lp:ubuntu-system-settings | 08:53 |
| alf_ | greyback: thanks | 08:53 |
| greyback | np | 08:53 |
| greyback | alf_: yep, wizard/ubuntu-system-settings-wizard.conf sets a wizard_socket | 08:54 |
| alf_ | greyback: So, I guess unity8 has no business connecting to that socket, right? | 08:55 |
| greyback | alf_: right | 08:55 |
| alf_ | greyback: I think it picks up by mistake, some leftover environment variable somehow | 08:56 |
| alf_ | greyback: I will check the start-up scripts | 08:56 |
| greyback | alf_: in post-stop, might be good idea to unset MIR_SOCKET | 08:56 |
| greyback | or else specify exactly the socket for unity8 to connect to in its startup job | 08:57 |
| alf_ | greyback: so ubuntu-system-settings-wizard-cleanup.conf supposedly restores the MIR_SOCKET to its previous value (WIZARD_ORIG_MIR_SOCKET), but there is probably some kind of race there | 08:59 |
| greyback | alf_: agreed | 09:07 |
| alf_ | greyback: if only I could reproduce it... | 09:07 |
| RAOF | Can we have a wizard_socket as a mainstay? :) | 09:07 |
| greyback | RAOF: back to the muggle mines you | 09:08 |
| * RAOF returns to his lunar abode | 09:08 | |
| duflu | Oh lunar. Cheesy. | 09:12 |
| duflu | Mirv, tvoss: Can we drop the overly wordy (and wrong) description text here?... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mir | 09:14 |
| duflu | I don't seem to have permission | 09:14 |
| tvoss | duflu, did you mean launchpad.net/mir | 09:15 |
| tvoss | ? | 09:15 |
| duflu | tvoss: No the link I just gave (under “mir” package in Ubuntu) | 09:15 |
| Mirv | duflu: I don't see any description there, aside from listing the packaging short descriptions | 09:16 |
| duflu | Mirv: Yes, they're wrong. And very old | 09:16 |
| Mirv | duflu: so that's a list of debian/control Description: first lines | 09:16 |
| duflu | Delete please | 09:16 |
| tvoss | duflu, those are auto generated | 09:16 |
| duflu | Hmm where from?! | 09:16 |
| duflu | Maybe from trusty | 09:16 |
| duflu | ? | 09:16 |
| tvoss | duflu, I don't know | 09:17 |
| duflu | Ah yes. Looks like auto-generated from trusty | 09:17 |
| Mirv | duflu: is there some difference to the utopic ones on that page? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/utopic/view/head:/debian/control | 09:17 |
| Mirv | right, trusty | 09:17 |
| Mirv | that's really a Launchpad problem/choice then | 09:18 |
| duflu | Mirv: Yeah the ABI levels are different, and the package names are changing a bit | 09:18 |
| Mirv | it's definitely a bug also that https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/mir looks similar | 09:18 |
| duflu | Excellent. Another important Launchpad page with misleading info we can't fix | 09:18 |
| Mirv | :( | 09:19 |
| duflu | Mirv: OK thanks for clarifying :/ | 09:20 |
| alf_ | greyback: duflu: Any idea how to add ubuntu-system-settings as affected by the bug? The project doesn't track bugs in launchpad (it's tracked in the ubuntu package). | 09:22 |
| duflu | alf_: I'll do it | 09:22 |
| alf_ | duflu: thanks | 09:22 |
| duflu | alf_: (Also affects distribution...) | 09:22 |
| alf_ | duflu: ah, right, that one again... :) | 09:23 |
| duflu | anpok_: Your 0.7.3 is served | 09:27 |
| duflu | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mir | 09:27 |
| RAOF | Woo! Branches all green. | 09:59 |
| duflu | RAOF: Time to run away then :) | 10:00 |
| RAOF | Yup. | 10:00 |
| * davmor2 lassos ROAF and stakes him down in front of a computer | 10:01 | |
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| sil2100 | kgunn: hello! | 13:51 |
| kgunn | uh-oh | 13:53 |
| kgunn | sil2100: hello ? | 13:53 |
| kgunn | :) | 13:53 |
| sil2100 | kgunn: sooo, I'm preparing the FFe for touch inbetween stuff, and noticed that some parts of mir are now used in the default utopic desktop images | 13:56 |
| sil2100 | kgunn: we would like to know what things are planned for mir in this cycle still | 13:56 |
| sil2100 | kgunn: can you guarantee ABI stability at least? :) | 13:56 |
| kgunn | camako: fyi.... | 13:57 |
| kgunn | sil2100: so right now we are truly in bug fix mode | 13:57 |
| * camako is all ears (eyes) | 13:57 | |
| kgunn | so no FFe needed i think | 13:57 |
| kgunn | for utopic | 13:58 |
| kgunn | sil2100: however, yes, we still break ABI every now and then tho we try not to | 13:58 |
| camako | what is FFe? | 13:58 |
| kgunn | sil2100: only if a bug fix ends up causing us to do so | 13:58 |
| kgunn | but we know all our clients....so... | 13:58 |
| kgunn | FFe = feature freeze exception | 13:58 |
| kgunn | camako: cause even tho we're thinking phone alot....there's utopic going on delivering to desktop | 13:59 |
| sil2100 | kgunn: ok, so we'll not include mir in the FFe, and simply make sure anything that gets released is a bugfix | 13:59 |
| camako | I see | 13:59 |
| kgunn | camako: do you agree with what i said?....i can't see anything that's a "feature" landing before Oct ? | 13:59 |
| kgunn | everything is really just a bug fix | 13:59 |
| camako | there will be a 0.8.0 release coming (probably next week)... which will/should reduce ABI breaks | 14:00 |
| kgunn | ...and we're not even cheating on definitions :) | 14:00 |
| kgunn | camako: i think even that is ok....we just can't break client | 14:00 |
| camako | yeah that's all under control... we have a deprecation path, rather than breakage | 14:01 |
| sil2100 | Excellent | 14:01 |
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| alf_ | kgunn: @ lp bug 1371593, is the media hub part of the unity8 process, but something separate from it? | 16:04 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1371593 in media-hub (Ubuntu) "Media player crashes on 'sudo stop lightdm'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1371593 | 16:04 |
| kgunn | alf_: seperate | 16:10 |
| kgunn | alf_: haven't spoke in a while...have a nice weekend btw | 16:11 |
| alf_ | kgunn: (thanks, you too!) But it is loaded in the unity8 process, right (that's where I got the backtrace from)? | 16:12 |
| alf_ | kgunn: So it's a library used by unity8? | 16:12 |
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| kgunn | alf_: right.... | 16:19 |
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| kgunn | rsalveti: so where's the best place to look for quick devel-proposed image#/date/commits ? | 19:21 |
| kgunn | like a list | 19:22 |
| rsalveti | ogra_'s changes list? | 19:22 |
| rsalveti | like http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/222.changes | 19:22 |
| rsalveti | that will at least show what was new in every image | 19:22 |
| kgunn | rsalveti: sorry to bother...so was working on bisect, flashed image #235 devel-proposed....but | 20:45 |
| kgunn | need to manually install unity8-autopilot | 20:45 |
| kgunn | so...it needs to pull in a bunch of stuff | 20:46 |
| rsalveti | right | 20:46 |
| kgunn | but are those packages like blown away or something | 20:46 |
| kgunn | i'm getting | 20:46 |
| kgunn | Err http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ utopic/main python2.7 armhf 2.7.8-6ubuntu1 | 20:46 |
| rsalveti | might need to run apt-get update first | 20:46 |
| kgunn | rsalveti: but...won't that take me to the latest ? | 20:46 |
| kgunn | i don't want the latest...i want #235 stuff | 20:47 |
| rsalveti | that will install the latest dependencies, yes | 20:47 |
| rsalveti | hopefully that will not cause any issue | 20:47 |
| kgunn | :-/ | 20:47 |
| rsalveti | but we don't store the older packages | 20:47 |
| kgunn | well...asking for bisect ain't such a good idea then | 20:47 |
| kgunn | this sucks | 20:47 |
| kgunn | "hope" | 20:47 |
| rsalveti | if the broken package is the one already available *in* the image, then it can still work | 20:47 |
| rsalveti | I know it's not ideal | 20:48 |
| * kgunn prepares to chase tail, wild gooses and red herrings | 20:48 | |
| kgunn | rsalveti: thanks for the info | 20:48 |
| rsalveti | np, good luck | 20:48 |
| rsalveti | this is painful | 20:48 |
| kgunn | lol | 20:49 |
| kgunn | tell me | 20:49 |
| tvoss | morphis, ping | 21:31 |
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