[03:33] <ScottK> rbasak: Done.
[08:09] <rbasak> ScottK: thanks!
[10:43] <bluesabre> Release team, the Xubuntu team has filed for UI Freeze Exception for...
[10:43] <bluesabre> xubuntu-default-settings: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1371554
[10:43] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1371554 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] Xubuntu Default Settings Minor UI Updates" [Undecided,New]
[10:43] <bluesabre> xubuntu-artwork: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/+bug/1371555
[10:43] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1371555 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] Xubuntu Default Wallpaper for Utopic" [Undecided,New]
[10:44] <bluesabre> Please let me know if these can be approved, so that we might be able to upload today.
[10:51] <ScottK> bluesabre: As long as Xubuntu and it's docs people are OK with it, those seem fine.
[10:53] <ScottK> bluesabre: Who's the right Xubuntu person to officially ack those for Xubuntu?
[10:57] <elfy> ScottK: if one of the xubuntu release team is sufficient then bluesabre is one, as am I
[10:59] <bluesabre> I've also invited slickymasterWork to this channel, our current docs lead
[11:02] <ScottK> elfy: Should be.  Thanks.
[11:04] <ScottK> bluesabre and elfy: Approved.
[11:04] <bluesabre> thanks ScottK
[11:04] <elfy> thanks ScottK
[11:30] <jamespage> please could a member of the release team review the sync requests that require FFe's that I emailed about on ubuntu-release a few days ago
[11:30] <jamespage> really want to get out next horizon upload in so we can test in-archive and kickoff the MIR process
[11:49] <jamespage> Laney, cjwatson, Daviey: ^^ maybe one of you nice folks could help me out?
[11:53] <cjwatson> not me today sorry
[13:12] <Laney> Maybe ScottK as a python person?
[13:13] <ScottK> Laney: They should all be fine.
[13:13] <Laney> I felt a bit uneasy about the plan to rebundle the things, but maybe that's just me
[13:13] <ScottK> As long as it's sync'ed from Debian, I wouldn't worry.
[13:13] <Laney> They want to undo the unbundling that Debian did
[13:17] <ScottK> Oh.
[13:17] <ScottK> Then no.
[13:19] <Laney> Because it would require MIRing nodejs and maybe other things, so I can see where they're coming from somewhat
[13:19] <Laney> Ho hum
[13:30] <ScottK> OK.
[13:30] <ScottK> Well then I have ENOTIME to look at it and form an opinion.
[13:31] <Laney> I feel like maybe it's okay as a this-cycle-only thing
[13:31] <Laney> Someone give a second opinion
[13:34] <cjwatson> infinity: fractionally more than a trivial bump, but could you have a look at d-i/trusty-proposed please?  should unbreak trusty images.
[13:34] <cjwatson> we're not in the habit of bumping d-i in stables often enough really
[13:36] <jamespage> Laney, not sure this is a this-cycle-only thing - my perspective is that the security team don't want to widely support lots of JS libraries in Ubuntu main but I'll let jdstrand respond on that point
[13:41] <jdstrand> we would prefer to not support lots of js libraries in main. xstatic doesn't actually save us from that, but we can contain the situation better by updating the MIR requirements to not allow the use of those xstatic libraries
[13:42] <jdstrand> the situation we are in is far from ideal
[13:43] <jdstrand> we could embed all those xstatic libraries in horizon I suppose...
[13:43] <jdstrand> but that seems like a lot of pain
[15:04] <infinity> cjwatson: Ick, unicode quotes in changelog.
[15:04] <infinity> cjwatson: Accepting.
[15:05] <cjwatson> infinity: oh, I copied and pasted from the Debian changelog and didn't notice :)
[15:05] <cjwatson> thanks
[15:06] <infinity> Err, I didn't check before accepting, is that building against the -updates kernel or the -proposed one?
[15:06] <infinity> Oh good, proposed.
[15:06] <cjwatson> should be yeah
[15:06] <infinity> That kernel's due to hit updates on Monday, so I'll slide d-i in with it.
[15:30] <sil2100> Hey! I filled in a quick FFe for touch packages: LP #1371635
[15:30] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1371635 in Ubuntu "[FFe] standing freeze exception in utopic for Ubuntu Touch-specific packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1371635
[15:30] <sil2100> Could anyone from the release team check if it makes sense? It's my first big FFe like this
[15:34] <Laney> sil2100: You should check those "for some reason" packages with seeded-in-ubuntu
[15:34] <Laney> I know for example that ofono is in kubuntu-plasma5
[15:34] <Laney> s/for some reason/somehow/ :)
[15:35] <sil2100> Right! Flavors, I just compared with the main desktop manifest in those cases
[15:36] <sil2100> And also compared with the old script for generating this list that came from slangasek
[15:36] <sil2100> But I guess it didn't take flavors into account as well
[15:54] <ScottK> Also, because of RTM, I thought we decided not to do a blanket FFe this time.
[15:54] <infinity> cjwatson: Argh.  In another call, it was pointed out to me that there's a keystone flavour in d-i in trusty.  Your upload only bumped master, not keystone.
[15:55] <sil2100> There was a discussion about that, but due to the policy we are forcing that anything that lands to RTM needs to land in ubuntu, an FFe is really useful
[15:57] <infinity> sil2100: I guess I missed the discussion that led to this conclusion.  The only times it came up that I was aware, people felt that having the extra level of review/oversight would be a good thing, not a bad thing.
[15:58] <didrocks> sil2100: you should take my last year script, it took the flavors and reasons into account
[15:58] <didrocks> (it was based on cjwatson's one)
[15:59] <sil2100> infinity: there was a mailing list discussion regarding that, and the final decision seemed to be 'yes, we fill-in an FFe' - I also confirmed it with slangasek that this was what we wanted
[16:00] <infinity> sil2100: Fair enough.
[16:01] <sil2100> didrocks: ah! I see it, the additional seeded-in-ubuntu part - I'll run it through the list that I have generated
[16:01] <sil2100> I suppose it'll take time to run though
[16:01] <Laney> umm
[16:01] <Laney> you know that generate-freeze-block uses the same data as seeded-in-ubuntu?
[16:02] <sil2100> Ah, ok, then the list from generate-freeze-block is enough then
[16:03] <Laney> It's the manually added stuff you should be looking at
[16:03] <sil2100> Anyway, it might be good to discuss some of the ones that I added anyway
[16:03] <Laney> I think you should at least put those in a separate section
[16:03] <sil2100> But I guess things like ofono should have only bugfixes anyway
[16:03] <sil2100> Right
[16:04] <sil2100> Not sure about click and such
[16:04] <Laney> what does s-i-u say about that?
[16:04] <sil2100> cjwatson: do you think we need the blanket FFe for click?
[16:04] <sil2100> Laney: it's in ubuntu-core for instance
[16:04] <Laney> hmm, I disclaim any clue about that
[16:05] <sil2100> click (from click) is seeded in:
[16:05] <sil2100>   ubuntu-core: daily-preinstalled
[16:05] <sil2100>   ubuntu: supported
[16:06] <sil2100> Supported here as well I guess...
[16:08] <infinity> I think that ubuntu-core thing is a weird overload from system-image.
[16:08] <infinity> The ubuntu-core tarball certainly doesn't contain click (nor is it defined by a seed).
[16:09] <infinity> Too many things named "core", none of which relate. :/
[17:00] <ScottK> core-core.
[17:01] <cjwatson> sil2100: I don't care either way; happy to ask individually
[17:01] <cjwatson> infinity: doh
[17:01] <cjwatson> infinity: you fixing?