[00:29] <diddledan> first result in
[00:30] <diddledan> yes: 46%; no: 54%
[00:33] <skellat> Out of what portion reporting?
[00:33] <diddledan> turnout?
[00:34] <skellat> What percent of voting territory
[00:34] <diddledan> donno. it's 1 ward out of 32
[00:34] <skellat> That works
[00:34] <skellat> Still way early
[00:34] <diddledan> but they're all differently sized so you can't say that's 1/32 of the electorate
[00:35] <diddledan> they're suggesting the final result will be known by three to four hours time
[00:43] <popey> \o/ Jabber
[00:43] <MattJ> Jabber \o/
[00:43] <MattJ> It's too late to do that to me
[00:43] <MattJ> or early
[00:58] <popey> hehe
[01:02] <diddledan> second result in
[01:02] <diddledan> waiting on the % calc but it's a hefty no
[01:03] <diddledan> yes: 33%; no: 67%
[01:03] <popey> quite a difference
[01:03] <diddledan> they're saying the constituency was pretty much guaranteed to vote no ahead of time
[01:04] <diddledan> with 2 declared, it's yes: 42%; no: 58%
[01:04] <diddledan> another 30 to go
[01:13] <diddledan> I gotta get some sleep - nn
[01:34] <vetman> anybody alive?
[07:41] <DJones> Oops, First person to but iphone 6 in Perth dropped it on tv http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/131043-first-person-to-buy-iphone-6-drops-it-on-camera-d-oh-video
[08:01] <SuperMatt> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2898-ubuntu-utopic-unicorn-release-party/ BOOM
[08:16] <foobarry> surprised at the oracle news. everybody knows you can't hurd catz
[08:16] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:17] <ujjain> what is o2 priority?
[08:17] <ujjain> a members-only area with discounts for o2 users?
[08:18] <diplo> pretty muc ujjain
[08:18] <Myrtti> yup
[08:18] <diplo> much*
[08:18] <ujjain> can somebody log in and see if the nexus 7 32gb is on promotion?
[08:18] <diplo> Can stick an O2 sim card in your phone, install the app and then go back to your original and it still works
[08:30] <brobostigon> irssi crashed last night, and totally died, amazing.
[08:34] <foobarry> i get that semi regularly
[08:35] <brobostigon> maybe its a script i have installed?
[08:38] <foobarry> why do i get u1 notifications (u1 will be shutting down) when i removed it all?
[08:43] <Myrtti> yeah I don't get that either
[08:44] <awilkins> I think I moved all the U1 music out into my main music collection anyway
[08:45] <awilkins> Hell, at least it wasn't U2 music  ;-D
[08:53] <foobarry> how much is a new ihpone off-contract?
[08:54] <brobostigon> something like £500 maybe more.
[08:54] <foobarry> wow.
[08:55] <foobarry> if only poor people knew about the other phones you can buy
[08:55] <brobostigon> apple make insane amounts of profit per device.
[08:55] <foobarry> hence beats
[08:56] <JamesTait> foobarry, http://askubuntu.com/questions/484328/how-do-i-stop-ubuntu-one-from-telling-me-its-file-service-will-be-shutting-down might help.
[08:57] <brobostigon> foobarry: people do know about other options, and i am sure most people understand, that most I-devices are meaningless fashion statements, and not always much else.
[08:57] <foobarry> JamesTait: thanks. beginning to think i did the package removal at home and not at work
[08:59] <JamesTait> foobarry, `sudo apt-get autoremove --purge python-ubuntuone-storageprotocol` appears to be the magical command.
[09:00] <Laney> can't we do an update that stops those messages?
[09:00] <Laney> AFAIK u1 is gone gone gone by now
[09:00] <foobarry> yep, i did a remove at home only
[09:00] <JamesTait> It is, but IIRC the U1 client isn't in Trusty at all.
[09:02] <JamesTait> I don't know enough about packaging, really, but maybe we could do a "Dummy transitional package" that just removes all the code?
[09:02]  * JamesTait realises what day it is.
[09:03]  * JamesTait checks.
[09:03] <awilkins> Friday 19th?
[09:03] <JamesTait> Yaaarrrr!
[09:03] <foobarry> let's all laugh at scotland day?
[09:04] <awilkins> It not be International Talk Like a Pirate day, Jimlad?
[09:04] <JamesTait> Yaaarrr, ye be right there, awilkins. :)
[09:07] <JamesTait> Yo ho ho, 'n' shiver me timbers! 'appy Friday 'n' 'appy Talk Like a Pirate Day!  Yaaarrr! :-D
[09:08]  * davmor2 makes JamesTait walk the plank
[09:09] <JamesTait> davmor2, surely ye mean launchpad?
[09:11] <davmor2> JamesTait: yaaarrrrr! Walk the Launchpad it'll take longer and be more painful
[09:20] <foobarry> did i answer this correctly? http://i.imgur.com/tg79jZc.png
[09:24] <popey> hah, they're bastards when they do that
[09:25] <popey> tick tick tick, ooh! no!
[09:25] <foobarry> still not sure if its correct
[09:25] <foobarry> was unsolicited named spam. not sure if i got scanned at a show or something
[09:27] <Myrtti> bah.
[09:27] <Myrtti> our tp-link had decided to just silently disable 5GHz wlan.
[09:28] <Myrtti> silly technology
[10:06] <davmor2> JamesTait: As you wish......that's talking like a pirate right?
[10:06] <davmor2> Myrtti: stick dd-wrt on it or open-wrt
[10:07] <JamesTait> davmor2, don't pirates talk about warez and torrents and things?
[10:07] <davmor2> JamesTait: Inconceivable
[10:08] <davmor2> JamesTait: I thought most of them spoke Somali
[10:12] <foobarry> o365 is worse than useless. cannot even bulk select more than about 10 emails at once
[10:12] <foobarry> and when you scroll down, the screen doesn't refresh the email list
[10:15] <popey> ( ͡°╭͜ʖ╮͡° )
[10:17]  * popey ♥ Unicode
[10:17] <foobarry> i can't use o666 on my phone either
[10:18] <foobarry> because it requires admin privs to run the activesync. (zimbra server did not require this for activesync)
[10:18] <foobarry> hence an incompetent user or sysadmin can wipe the entire device
[10:20] <awilkins> o365 requires ActiveSync?
[10:20] <awilkins> Blurrrgh
[10:21] <foobarry> yesh
[10:21] <awilkins> I shun ActiveSync because our sysadmin requires the power to nuke my phone from orbit and control my camera usage
[10:21] <foobarry> oh, i tried imap and my phones data plan got used up in a day
[10:21] <awilkins> Even if they don't use it, they get get stuffed
[10:22] <awilkins> For the "convenience" of people being able to pester me via email on my phone, it seems overkill
[10:22] <foobarry> i checked the helpdesk tickets
[10:23] <foobarry> students have wiped their phone by mistake
[10:23] <awilkins> I liked my N900 because it had an ActiveSync connector that ignored such commands from the server
[10:23] <foobarry> the whole thing
[10:23] <awilkins> Then ICT got wise to this and refused to let me use it
[10:26] <DJones> AlanBell: This might be of interest to you & TheOpenSourcerer (along with danfish if he was here) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/19/open_source_nhs/
[10:31] <foobarry> Motorola Moto G..." has been dispatched
[10:31] <foobarry> \o/
[10:32] <Myrtti> new or old?
[10:32] <foobarry> old was better choice for me
[10:33] <foobarry> prefer the screen size and the price
[10:33] <foobarry> and is a trusted model
[10:34] <foobarry> if the new one had 4g is would be tempted
[10:35] <ujjain> 	 http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/harddrives-internal/solidstate/120gbto200gb/ssdsc2cw120a310.html
[10:35] <ujjain> cheap!
[10:35] <awilkins> Yeah, flash storage is getting cheaper... I think that's stock that's going out of fashion
[10:36] <awilkins> I have one of the 180GB ones in an enclosure and it's very nice
[10:43] <foobarry> what's the rules about registering an official channel in freenode?
[10:47] <popey> Dave2: ^
[10:47] <foobarry> hmm i think you have to be a subreddit moderator
[10:47] <foobarry> for a #reddit-blah chan
[10:47] <Myrtti> foobarry: http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#channelownership
[10:47] <Myrtti> or do it in snoonet
[10:48] <foobarry> Myrtti: snoonet is a different irc network?
[10:48] <Myrtti> yup
[10:49] <christel> yeah, it's where reddit officially moved to when they decided they didn't like us! :)
[10:49] <foobarry> oh i didn't know that
[10:49] <foobarry> stuff that.
[10:49] <foobarry> ircnet+freenode is enough for me
[10:50] <foobarry> i lost ops on my ## chan and there's a lurker who never goes away
[10:50] <foobarry> so i can't regain ops
[11:27] <salmantino> hello you all
[11:28] <davmor2> salmantino: hello
[11:29] <davmor2> christel: how could they not like you :)
[11:29] <salmantino> One possible cliente told me that he is thinking that one of their employees is giving industry secrets using a chat
[11:30] <salmantino> I was thing using whireshark for captring traffic
[11:30] <salmantino> but I will need to manage big cap files
[11:31] <salmantino> I wonder if someone knows a tool to captura only chat traffic
[11:31] <foobarry> what sort of chat
[11:32] <salmantino> he told me that saw an explorer windows with de skype logo
[11:32] <salmantino> so I think that probably is de webskype
[11:33] <salmantino> but of couser is not 100% sure
[11:33] <awilkins> Skype is encrypted
[11:33] <awilkins> Even if you can cap his streams, it just proves he had a big chat
[11:34] <salmantino> installing something in his computer is not possible?
[11:34] <foobarry> yes
[11:34] <foobarry> a keylogged
[11:34] <salmantino> or a man in the middle in the network?
[11:34] <foobarry> a keylogger
[11:35] <awilkins> Man in the middle will only work for things like XMPP over SSL
[11:35] <foobarry> physical device to sit between kayboard and pc
[11:35] <MattJ> XMPP \o/
[11:35] <foobarry> but u will need highest approval for that kind of activity
[11:35] <davmor2> salmantino: just stick a video camera behind them
[11:35] <awilkins> foobarry, Keylogger isn't useful if he's cutting and pasting industry secrets
[11:35] <christel> how very ethical of the employer
[11:36]  * awilkins has an employer that feeds all our VoIP calls through a SIGINT program
[11:36] <foobarry> https://www.keelog.com/
[11:36] <davmor2> keylogger isn't useful if he talks about it on skype
[11:36] <foobarry> yes it is
[11:36] <foobarry> ah "talks"
[11:36] <foobarry> voice call or typing?
[11:36] <awilkins> Keylogger doesn't help for cut & paste
[11:36] <salmantino> I thing that is typing
[11:37] <awilkins> All you'd cap is "ctrl-C"  ... "ctrl-V"
[11:37] <salmantino> and sending files .... probably
[11:37] <foobarry> see the link, they have everything u need
[11:37] <awilkins> Something that periodically caps screenshots may be useful
[11:37] <foobarry> they do that too
[11:37] <awilkins> Like that VideoGhost thing
[11:38] <foobarry> skype chats are saved on the pc
[11:38] <foobarry> are u sure they deleted them?
[11:39] <salmantino> I write down VideoGhost, because probably it permit to know what is the way used
[11:40] <foobarry> do check his skype chat logs though
[11:40] <salmantino> a skype client is not used. I think that probably is the webskype used for hotmail (outlook)
[11:50] <salmantino> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/outlook/use-skype-in-outlook
[11:50] <salmantino> this is the skype client that I think that could be used
[12:18] <directhex> is anyone interested in buying my old gaming pc, minus graphics card, at a knock-down price?
[12:28] <popey> possibly
[12:28] <popey> wot is it?
[12:37] <nickkkkkk_> hi anybody here to help?
[12:38] <nickkkkkk_> im getting an error saying couldnt open input file, no such file or directory
[12:38] <nickkkkkk_> how do i fix this ?
[12:38] <nickkkkkk_> it wont let me scalpel the file
[12:46] <BigRedS> what is "it"; what file is it trying to open? I think we' need some context in order to be useful
[12:51] <foobarry> so i received £25 premium bond "winnings"
[12:52] <foobarry> except its not me but the dead guy who used to live here
[12:52] <foobarry> need to phone them up
[12:52] <foobarry> family might like to cash in £500+
[13:18] <Azelphur> lmfao that was hilarious
[13:19] <Azelphur> I just tried to get on a national express coach with an email ticket, I put it on my watch because I like showing off my gadgetry, the ticket number was clearly displayed but the driver was saying he couldn't see it so I pulled it up on my phone
[13:19] <Azelphur> he then told me "You've committed forgery by doing that, you've copied your ticket"
[13:19] <Azelphur> I'm like uhh...it's an email...if I open it on my laptop and my tablet does that mean I have 4 tickets?
[13:20] <Azelphur> he said yes, then went quiet for a minute, then told me to "Just get on" hahaha
[13:21] <Azelphur> you wouldn't pirate a coach ticket, I guess.
[13:22] <diplo> I don't know, I know of people who try it with train tickets
[13:23] <Azelphur> diplo, and it'd never work because they are supposed to check the ticket number
[13:24] <diplo> It's the barcode on the back for getting out at stations
[13:24] <awilkins> Magstripe
[13:25] <awilkins> Never researched them but probably really simple to forge
[13:25] <Azelphur> ah
[13:25] <diplo> Supposedly the train one is the hardest hes tried
[13:25] <Azelphur> yea probably
[13:25] <awilkins> Even Oysters were very easy to forge last time I looked
[13:25] <diplo> He bought a writer off ebay and has cloned / created lots of things
[13:25] <diplo> But the train ones he can't decode
[13:25] <Azelphur> diplo, the national express ones should be impossible, they give you a unique ref and the driver is supposed to check it
[13:25] <awilkins> That was when they were using Mifare 1k though
[13:25] <Azelphur> although on this occasion he wasn't doing his job properly
[13:25] <awilkins> Mifare 1k uses weak-tea encryption
[13:26] <Azelphur> all he should need is the ticket number, which I had displayed front and center :)
[13:26] <diplo> He earns lots of money, so really saving money isn't the thing he just likes to try these things
[13:26] <diplo> inquisitive mind I guess
[13:26] <diplo> I for one wouldn't have the patience :D
[13:26] <awilkins> I used to work for a firm doing smartcards for loyalty cards, bus tickets, etc
[13:26] <Azelphur> diplo, I'm planning on doing the oysters one day
[13:26] <awilkins> And Mifare 1k were pretty weak even in those days (Pentium 4 era)
[13:26] <Azelphur> it'd be nice to have my phone emulate it
[13:27] <awilkins> I imagine throwing a decent GPU at them they'd break in a few minutes
[13:28] <awilkins> They have piddly tiny storage areas too ; we used to do things like use 6-bit integers packed on arbitrary bit boundaries to try and cram as many fields into the card as possible
[13:28]  * awilkins wrote VB6 code to pack n-bit structs on arbitrary boundaries and then hash them for a checksum and feels both proud and dirty
[13:30] <foobarry> nothing quite as annoying as a bluebottle in the room who won't fly out of the window
[13:30] <awilkins> Wikipedia says : Oyster was Mifare 1k Classic until Dec 2009 (very hackable)
[13:31] <awilkins> Now they are MIFARE DESFire EV1 : No idea how hackable
[13:31] <awilkins> ASsume they use Triple DES encryption which isn't awesome
[13:33] <davmor2> foobarry: swap the bluebottle for a wasp
[13:33] <foobarry> heh
[13:34] <awilkins> In something of a misnomer, MIFARE DESFire EV1 supports AES128
[13:41] <diddledan> morning
[13:45] <awilkins> Erm
[13:45]  * awilkins gestures at the clock
[14:00] <foobarry> thunder
[14:00] <foobarry> tv style
[14:00] <foobarry> yup, storm's a coming
[14:01] <Azelphur> foobarry, where you at? :)
[14:01] <Azelphur> hmm, I just turned on the air con in this coach, the aircon appears to be citrus flavoured.
[14:01] <Azelphur> ...weird
[14:02] <foobarry> n london
[14:02] <Azelphur> foobarry, cool, so I'm gonna get rained on :P
[14:02]  * Azelphur is on the coach at Canterbury, headed to London Victoria
[14:02] <foobarry> it was doing it in the bight too
[14:02] <foobarry> s/n/b
[14:02] <foobarry> meh
[14:02] <Azelphur> fun
[14:04] <diplo> We had awesome storms last night
[14:04] <diplo> Started about 7pm finished 4am ish
[14:04] <diplo> Thunder / lightning and lots of localised flooding :)
[14:04] <diplo> Friends dads house got struck by lightning
[14:05] <Azelphur> nothing eventful in the thanet area storm related :<
[14:05] <Azelphur> dam :o
[14:09] <Azelphur> I am so tempted to load the ticket up on my laptop and tablet
[14:09] <Azelphur> and do some kind of 4-device balancing act as I walk off the coach with the ticket loaded on all 4 devices
[14:10] <Azelphur> but the practicality of doing that while carrying 2 bags would be prohibitive :<
[14:31] <foobarry> how do extract folders from a tar that are called Keep!23
[14:31] <foobarry> Keep!24, etc
[14:31] <foobarry> have resorted to gui
[14:32] <foobarry> tar xvfz all.tar.gz Keep\!* doesn't work
[14:33] <foobarry> "tar: use --wildcards to enable pattern matching,"
[14:33] <foobarry> ah
[14:35] <foobarry> nope
[14:46] <diddledan> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/09/netflix-linux-html5-nss-change-request
[16:15] <dubfej> hi. my monitor has a shadow in the shape of a triangle at the bottom of the monitor. it's not there at bootup, it appears at some point after the desktop loads. sometimes half of the screen "shadows up" as well. any ideas what it could be? the shadows seem to come and go as they please
[16:54] <directhex> is anyone interested in buying my old gaming pc, minus graphics card, at a knock-down price?
[16:55] <foobarry> nah, don't do desktops any more
[17:01] <popey> 13:28:34 < popey> possibly
[17:01] <popey> 13:28:41 < popey> wot is it?
[17:26] <awilkins> popey, Ooh, Netflix Native
[17:26] <awilkins> popey, I presume this will use squillions fewer CPU cycles
[17:37] <davmor2> awilkins: or squillions more
[17:38] <dutchie> or possibly the same amount!