| === FlannelKing is now known as Flannel | ||
| === FlannelKing is now known as Flannel | ||
| Roguehorse | Good Morning! | 17:45 |
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| pleia2 | hey there Roguehorse | 17:45 |
| rww | howdy | 17:45 |
| Roguehorse | Hey! What's happening | 17:46 |
| pleia2 | work work | 17:46 |
| Roguehorse | always | 17:46 |
| Roguehorse | pleia2: How do you like the traveling? | 17:47 |
| pleia2 | love it | 17:47 |
| pleia2 | I'm home for a whole month right now, not sure what to do with myself :) | 17:48 |
| Roguehorse | Ah, I've never really been a fan of globetrotting - but I know some people really dig it | 17:51 |
| Roguehorse | Before I was married and had kids I thought about it and did some on my own - but now I stay close to home. | 17:53 |
| Roguehorse | Company covers all the tab right? | 17:53 |
| pleia2 | pretty much | 17:53 |
| pleia2 | I have to get approvals for everything, and I do sometimes go on my own dime when the budget is tight | 17:54 |
| Roguehorse | Oh, I've known some companies make people use their own dime then submit expense reports for comp | 17:55 |
| Roguehorse | IDK, something about that doesn't seem right | 17:55 |
| Roguehorse | especially if it's a requirement | 17:56 |
| Roguehorse | but, each company has their policy | 17:57 |
| Roguehorse | Has everyone heard about the new iOS8 is now fully encrypted? Even subpoena can't get data out. | 18:00 |
| Roguehorse | I think that's the right way to do things these days. | 18:01 |
| Roguehorse | Lots of accounts going overseas because of data security issues...lots of cutbacks as a result | 18:09 |
| rww | yes, i read it on my Android that has had full-disk encryption for a while | 18:10 |
| pleia2 | I book through the company booking service and have a company credit card, but I'd be ok either way (plus, I'd get more credit card points my way!) | 18:10 |
| Roguehorse | :-) | 18:10 |
| Roguehorse | pleia2: Your company does it right...not all though | 18:11 |
| pleia2 | reminds me, I owe them some receipts | 18:11 |
| Roguehorse | yeah, don't want to slack on that | 18:11 |
| Roguehorse | rww: Having device encryption is one thing, cloud storage and transmission (including meta) is a different deal | 18:13 |
| rww | I go with the "if it's on the 'cloud' it's doomed" philosophy, but I guess I'm not the intended audience ;) | 18:13 |
| Roguehorse | I heard about spideroak from GRC and looks interesting: https://spideroak.com/?utm_expid=14446725-6.kmcEPnsiSaevBSQb7kScng.0&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fsa%3Dt%26rct%3Dj%26q%3D%26esrc%3Ds%26source%3Dweb%26cd%3D1%26ved%3D0CCAQFjAA%26url%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fspideroak.com%252F%26ei%3DxzobVKnZJIbtoATX94KoCg%26usg%3DAFQjCNFbWLVWburoPM_k3vR2Jquq8ou8qw%26sig2%3DMzD1tnzYx0QsV0yZH9MBbw%26bvm%3Dbv.75774317%2Cd.cGU%26cad%3Drjt | 18:14 |
| darthrobot | Title: [SpiderOak | Online File Sharing & Secure Cloud Backup Software] | 18:14 |
| Roguehorse | Well, the thing is, the number of people who are using cloud these days incliding iCloud, Google Drive, etc.. | 18:15 |
| rww | Yep. I was hoping some of them would change their mind on that after the iCloud photo nonsense, but I expect they won't now. Sigh. | 18:16 |
| Roguehorse | Plus, beyond storage is transfer...gpg can encrypt the plain text but not the meta | 18:17 |
| Roguehorse | the new iOS8 I guess will handle all that, so even if it's cracked, it's just noise | 18:18 |
| pleia2 | rww: what do you mean uploading my data to someone else's server for free doesn't mean my data is safe>?!!!111 | 18:19 |
| pleia2 | but I get it, technology is hard and people are trusting | 18:19 |
| Roguehorse | not so much anymore! This is the 'post Snowden' era | 18:20 |
| rww | your average high schooler doesn't care | 18:20 |
| Roguehorse | rww: no, most likely not | 18:21 |
| Roguehorse | most of this revolves around economicsw and the concept that companies are having less confidence of their data held on US soil | 18:21 |
| pleia2 | I don't care either tbh | 18:22 |
| Roguehorse | eh, it's a trade off for sure..I usually tell people only to use the cloud for stuff that wouldn't bother you if it got stolen | 18:23 |
| rww | pleia2: sure, but you're educated as to the upsides and downsides, at least | 18:23 |
| Roguehorse | or, pre-client encrypt private material whichrequires them to learn how to use a key pair | 18:24 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I just hate privacy | 18:24 |
| Roguehorse | I know, but the current trend is to make it so easy the "average Joe" no longer needs to know how to do it | 18:25 |
| Roguehorse | privacy is a PITA (at least at the moment) - average people find encryption confusing and difficult to use - but they want it | 18:27 |
| Roguehorse | lots of tech coming down the pipeline to have it as the "default" without requiring user interaction | 18:28 |
| rww | *nod* | 18:29 |
| rww | if it works, I'll be very happy :) | 18:29 |
| ianorlin | testing if encryption works is not easy | 18:30 |
| rww | especially if it's closed source | 18:30 |
| blitz | encryption is so easy, people download the unauthorized packages and boom their hard drive is encrypted and all the IT staff loves them | 18:34 |
| rww | haven't come across that at work yet. i expect it's a matter of time | 18:34 |
| Roguehorse | easy is a matter of perspective | 18:35 |
| Roguehorse | the greater majority of the GP thinks it's complicated - but they depend on the nerds to make it easy for them - that's where were at | 18:36 |
| Roguehorse | security is becoming a "real" concern - look at what Zuckerberg is doing with his platform right now | 18:38 |
| Roguehorse | enforcing policy | 18:38 |
| Roguehorse | people want "point and click" or "checkbox" easy...and that's not so easy | 18:39 |
| Roguehorse | more and more we're seeing people wanting TNO security for their data: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust_no_one_%28internet_security%29 | 18:43 |
| darthrobot | Title: [Trust no one (internet security) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] | 18:43 |
| Roguehorse | Google is now bitching about SHA-1: https://konklone.com/post/why-google-is-hurrying-the-web-to-kill-sha-1 | 18:48 |
| darthrobot | Title: [Why Google is Hurrying the Web to Kill SHA-1] | 18:48 |
| Roguehorse | Which we all really should be focusing on SHA-256 | 18:49 |
| Roguehorse | http://www.roguehorse.com/eblug_sha1_test.png | 19:16 |
| darthrobot | Content type: [image/png] Size: [64084] | 19:16 |
| jyo | rww, pleia2: Well, finally emailed Ben about Utopic venue haha. Luckily, I didn't realize release was that late in October. | 21:19 |
| pleia2 | \o/ | 21:49 |
| nhaines | Smash Bros demo for 3DS is enteraining. | 22:43 |
| jyo | http://www.renesys.com/2014/09/why-the-internet-broke-today/ You must be this tall to ride this ride. | 23:32 |
| darthrobot | Title: [Why Far-Flung Parts of the Internet Broke Today - Renesys] | 23:32 |
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