=== FlannelKing is now known as Flannel === FlannelKing is now known as Flannel [17:45] Good Morning! [17:45] hey there Roguehorse [17:45] howdy [17:46] Hey! What's happening [17:46] work work [17:46] always [17:47] pleia2: How do you like the traveling? [17:47] love it [17:48] I'm home for a whole month right now, not sure what to do with myself :) [17:51] Ah, I've never really been a fan of globetrotting - but I know some people really dig it [17:53] Before I was married and had kids I thought about it and did some on my own - but now I stay close to home. [17:53] Company covers all the tab right? [17:53] pretty much [17:54] I have to get approvals for everything, and I do sometimes go on my own dime when the budget is tight [17:55] Oh, I've known some companies make people use their own dime then submit expense reports for comp [17:55] IDK, something about that doesn't seem right [17:56] especially if it's a requirement [17:57] but, each company has their policy [18:00] Has everyone heard about the new iOS8 is now fully encrypted? Even subpoena can't get data out. [18:01] I think that's the right way to do things these days. [18:09] Lots of accounts going overseas because of data security issues...lots of cutbacks as a result [18:10] yes, i read it on my Android that has had full-disk encryption for a while [18:10] I book through the company booking service and have a company credit card, but I'd be ok either way (plus, I'd get more credit card points my way!) [18:10] :-) [18:11] pleia2: Your company does it right...not all though [18:11] reminds me, I owe them some receipts [18:11] yeah, don't want to slack on that [18:13] rww: Having device encryption is one thing, cloud storage and transmission (including meta) is a different deal [18:13] I go with the "if it's on the 'cloud' it's doomed" philosophy, but I guess I'm not the intended audience ;) [18:14] I heard about spideroak from GRC and looks interesting: https://spideroak.com/?utm_expid=14446725-6.kmcEPnsiSaevBSQb7kScng.0&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fsa%3Dt%26rct%3Dj%26q%3D%26esrc%3Ds%26source%3Dweb%26cd%3D1%26ved%3D0CCAQFjAA%26url%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fspideroak.com%252F%26ei%3DxzobVKnZJIbtoATX94KoCg%26usg%3DAFQjCNFbWLVWburoPM_k3vR2Jquq8ou8qw%26sig2%3DMzD1tnzYx0QsV0yZH9MBbw%26bvm%3Dbv.75774317%2Cd.cGU%26cad%3Drjt [18:14] Title: [SpiderOak | Online File Sharing & Secure Cloud Backup Software] [18:15] Well, the thing is, the number of people who are using cloud these days incliding iCloud, Google Drive, etc.. [18:16] Yep. I was hoping some of them would change their mind on that after the iCloud photo nonsense, but I expect they won't now. Sigh. [18:17] Plus, beyond storage is transfer...gpg can encrypt the plain text but not the meta [18:18] the new iOS8 I guess will handle all that, so even if it's cracked, it's just noise [18:19] rww: what do you mean uploading my data to someone else's server for free doesn't mean my data is safe>?!!!111 [18:19] but I get it, technology is hard and people are trusting [18:20] not so much anymore! This is the 'post Snowden' era [18:20] your average high schooler doesn't care [18:21] rww: no, most likely not [18:21] most of this revolves around economicsw and the concept that companies are having less confidence of their data held on US soil [18:22] I don't care either tbh [18:23] eh, it's a trade off for sure..I usually tell people only to use the cloud for stuff that wouldn't bother you if it got stolen [18:23] pleia2: sure, but you're educated as to the upsides and downsides, at least [18:24] or, pre-client encrypt private material whichrequires them to learn how to use a key pair [18:24] yeah, I just hate privacy [18:25] I know, but the current trend is to make it so easy the "average Joe" no longer needs to know how to do it [18:27] privacy is a PITA (at least at the moment) - average people find encryption confusing and difficult to use - but they want it [18:28] lots of tech coming down the pipeline to have it as the "default" without requiring user interaction [18:29] *nod* [18:29] if it works, I'll be very happy :) [18:30] testing if encryption works is not easy [18:30] especially if it's closed source [18:34] encryption is so easy, people download the unauthorized packages and boom their hard drive is encrypted and all the IT staff loves them [18:34] haven't come across that at work yet. i expect it's a matter of time [18:35] easy is a matter of perspective [18:36] the greater majority of the GP thinks it's complicated - but they depend on the nerds to make it easy for them - that's where were at [18:38] security is becoming a "real" concern - look at what Zuckerberg is doing with his platform right now [18:38] enforcing policy [18:39] people want "point and click" or "checkbox" easy...and that's not so easy [18:43] more and more we're seeing people wanting TNO security for their data: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust_no_one_%28internet_security%29 [18:43] Title: [Trust no one (internet security) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] [18:48] Google is now bitching about SHA-1: https://konklone.com/post/why-google-is-hurrying-the-web-to-kill-sha-1 [18:48] Title: [Why Google is Hurrying the Web to Kill SHA-1] [18:49] Which we all really should be focusing on SHA-256 [19:16] http://www.roguehorse.com/eblug_sha1_test.png [19:16] Content type: [image/png] Size: [64084] [21:19] rww, pleia2: Well, finally emailed Ben about Utopic venue haha. Luckily, I didn't realize release was that late in October. [21:49] \o/ [22:43] Smash Bros demo for 3DS is enteraining. [23:32] http://www.renesys.com/2014/09/why-the-internet-broke-today/ You must be this tall to ride this ride. [23:32] Title: [Why Far-Flung Parts of the Internet Broke Today - Renesys]