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[01:29] <PCLine_> Hello
[01:29] <PCLine_> everyone.
[01:41] <Unit193> Howdy.
[01:42] <jenni> Unit193, And you can't talk
[01:42] <Unit193> Alright.
[01:49] <PCLine_> Should I be afraid of talking in here also?
[02:50]  * skellat **SMACKS** jenni for being a bad bot
[02:51] <Unit193> Oh jenni, you're such a baaaad bot. ;)
[02:52] <skellat> Unit193: Given any thought to the proposed slice and dice to further refine and localize things in the state?
[02:53] <Unit193> I had certain words in relation to that, but I filed them in /dev/null for now.
[02:57] <skellat> I imagine they were along the lines, run through a G-rated filter, of: "Why bother?"
[02:59] <Unit193> Meh.  So, this sounds like ReLoCos again, except rather than it being something where you report back to the Ohio lead, you have to basically form your own LoCo, including talking to Canonical.  So, further splitting up the low in number group, and seems to generally put more work for each "ReLoCo".  No?
[02:59] <skellat> Unit193: I was out-voted and it was what LoCo Council offered as an alternate option to a single all-state organization paradigm
[03:00] <skellat> My choice was to let a LoCo be whatever size it naturally stays coherent at and judge its continuing existence by its ability to be active
[03:00] <skellat> You do have one part wrong
[03:01] <skellat> Instead of there being a solo lead
[03:01] <skellat> The leaders of the sub-state groups would work together as Council of Ubuntu Ohio and they would interact with Canonical on behalf of the whole state
[03:02] <skellat> ~ubuntu-us-ohio would remain as the umbrella but the only members would be the subordinate team formations and the resultant council of leaders across the state
[03:02] <skellat> Somehow Brazil has made it work for several years and a majority of LoCo Council has commended it to all LoCo groups as an option
[03:03] <Unit193> Ah, that was how it used to be, report back to the lead, be it the Ohio council or Ohio Lead.  I see.  So, mandated council but ReLoCos optional (which could be run by different people than council)?
[03:03] <skellat> If you have ReLoCos, the head of each ReLoCo is a member of the Council
[03:04] <skellat> And that mandated Council would run the show on a cooperative basis
[03:04] <skellat> In terms of external relations
[03:04] <skellat> The Latin American contingent wrote this up so the English is messy
[03:05] <skellat> The easiest way to look at it by analogy is to divide Ohio akin to State Senate districts
[03:05] <skellat> Each State Senator leads in their district in that area's activities for Ubuntu
[03:06] <skellat> Together they form the State Senate which looks at things from the state-wide perspective and in talking to LoCo Council, Community Council, and Canonical
[03:06] <skellat> Does that sound easier than what my Paraguayan colleague Pablo Rubianes posted in explanation of this?
[03:09] <Unit193> Well, difference is also in the policy and what we'll try out as well.  Still not sure if splitting out into ReLoCos is warranted, but perhaps a better idea of what we may be trying for.
[03:09] <skellat> I'm thinking localism is key
[03:10] <skellat> I'm pretty sure that, regardless of how the Scottish Referendum goes, my UK counterpart Alan Bell may have to take a hard look at this too once the results come in
[03:10] <Unit193> But right now, the most active people aren't really close to each other, so keeping it as a whole keeps them together.
[03:10] <skellat> I know
[03:10] <skellat> That's the risk
[03:11] <skellat> Hoping that our most active folks can act as kernels to spin up activity in more local areas around them
[03:11]  * skellat recognizes that not all policy ideas are good ones
[03:12] <Unit193> Indeed not.  I like how Debian makes them better.  Takes generally accepted ideas that are good.
[03:12] <Unit193> (Basically.)
[03:12] <skellat> And that's why you are the most excellent Xubuntu Debian Liaison
[03:13] <Unit193> Hah, and I don't actually do *that* much in Debian. :P
[03:13] <Unit193> But, thanks.
[03:13] <skellat> No problem
[03:14] <skellat> I gotta finish up as I have a big drive down to Youngstown in the morning to escort my sister to an appointment with a state agency
[03:14] <skellat> Have a good night
[03:15] <Unit193> G'night.  Hrm, and seems the only one in this area I know of, doesn't stop by here anymore. :/
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