[01:03] <urielvigilant> I want that my Lubuntu14.04.1, to startup with the Energy Manager applet. So i went to Lxsession configurantion then Autostart, then i putt an Astherisc on the option Enabled application where says " Energy manager"! Why after reboot and on Startup Lubuntu dont start this applet ?
[01:08] <urielvigilant> Iam using a laptop, and i can see that on  Lxsession configuration, in Settings then GeneralSettings, says : Laptop Mode ; No . .  . Should i put yes instead no ? and also i should put an Astherisque where say Upstart ?
[01:17] <urielvigilant> Some one says tha this solve my problem but i dont know the steps to do it : Nik.Th. (nick-athens30) wrote on 2013-11-22: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8383951/
[01:25] <urielvigilant>  i found this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8383997/ i will do this and then reboot to tell what work bettr for me
[02:05] <guest-eHrGbG> Ok i messed all up. After i changed option No to Yes in AplicationPReDefined in Lx Session»»»»»»Setttings»»»»»GeneralSettings»»»»YES and i also putted an Checkout on the Upstart box there! then i reboot and after put my Lubuntu pasword, i can only see my Lubuntu screen picture and a box for a second that says: " ERROR CDBUS. Error.org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed an...
[02:05] <guest-eHrGbG> ...Authentication Age
[02:05] <guest-eHrGbG> 	guest-eHrGbG	nt already exists for the given subject. what can i do know because it only let me acess like guest, it always comback to the login lubuntu mainscreen.
[02:08] <UrielVigilant> Ok i messed all up. After i changed option No to Yes in AplicationPReDefined in Lx Session»»»»»»Setttings»»»»»GeneralSettings»»»»YES and i also putted an Checkout on the Upstart box there! then i reboot and after put my Lubuntu pasword, i can only see my Lubuntu screen picture and a box for a second that says: " ERROR CDBUS. Error.org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed an...
[02:08] <UrielVigilant> ...Authentication...
[02:08] <UrielVigilant> ...agent already exists for the given subject. what can i do know because it only let me acess like guest, it always comback to the login lubuntu mainscreen.
[02:16] <UrielVigilant> help me iam panic ! After i changed option No to Yes in AplicationPReDefined in Lx Session»»»»»»Setttings»»»»»GeneralSettings»»»»YES and i also putted an Checkout on the Upstart box there! then i reboot and after put my Lubuntu pasword, i can only see my Lubuntu screen picture and a box for a second that says: " ERROR CDBUS. Error.org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed an...
[02:16] <UrielVigilant> ...Authentication...
[02:16] <UrielVigilant> ...Agent already exists for the given subject. what can i do know because it only let me acess like guest, it always comback to the login lubuntu mainscreen
[02:57] <urielvigilant> Ok iam back again with my usernomally. Now the only issue is that i have 2 notications areas and they are twins with same information. How to stay with only one of them ? Check my right under corner part of screen!
[03:22] <Bob___> I am running Ubuntu 12.04 on a pc but it crashes 10 to 20% of the time.  I have Lubuntu 14/04 on a cd and md5 checked.  When I try to boot as a live cd I get to the language selection window and all seems good but a few seconds later the cd drive stops and nothing more happens.
[03:22] <holstein> Bob___: sounds like you may have failing hardware.. i would try a live USB
[03:22] <holstein> you can use plop to boot USB on legacy hardware
[03:23] <holstein> urielvigilant: try to simply right-click and remove one of the notification areas
[03:23] <Bob___> unfortunately machine won't boot from usb
[03:23] <holstein> Bob___: plop lets machines that dont boot usb boot usb
[03:24] <holstein> http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/download.html
[03:24] <holstein> you can also take the hard drive to another machine and install lubuntu there
[03:24] <Bob___> okay... i will check out plop
[03:26] <holstein> also, you can try the mini iso..
[03:26] <holstein> !mini
[03:27] <holstein> this will give you a smaller amount of information to read from the CD drive
[03:28] <holstein> Bob___: though, none of this addresses why 12.04 "crashes".. and, how all of this behavior could be due to failing ram, or other system components
[03:29] <urielvigilant> I have a duplicated notification are on the under right corner of my screen. How to stay just with one in Lubuntu 14.04 ? http://tinypic.com/r/2zz2dth/8
[03:30] <holstein> urielvigilant: please try simply right-clicking on one and removing it from the panel
[03:30] <urielvigilant> holstein when i do that they booth desappear
[03:30] <holstein> urielvigilant: ok
[03:30] <holstein> urielvigilant: you have duplicate "nm-applet" ?
[03:31] <urielvigilant> you can see in the picture,  two signal from my LTE internet connection.
[03:31] <urielvigilant> when i past the mouse above it, they are twins
[03:31] <urielvigilant> exactly the same option, same everythin
[03:32] <holstein> urielvigilant: i dont have any hardware like to to duplicate the results.. do you have 2 nm-applets running?
[03:32] <urielvigilant> if i choose " Remove items in the pannel" , then
[03:32] <holstein> urielvigilant: correct. i understand you have tried removing. no need to try again
[03:32] <urielvigilant> i think so
[03:33] <holstein> urielvigilant: dont think
[03:33] <holstein> urielvigilant: in terminal.. ps aux | grep nm-applet
[03:33] <urielvigilant> lets try
[03:33] <urielvigilant> sudo ps aux | grep nm-applet   ?
[03:34] <urielvigilant> holstein: it give me this   http://paste.ubuntu.com/8384633/
[03:34] <holstein> urielvigilant: i would reset *all* the config's for my user, and look for a bug for my particular networking device
[03:34] <holstein> !bug
[03:37] <holstein> urielvigilant: this is the configs i reference http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2189743
[03:37] <urielvigilant> lets see
[03:37] <holstein> urielvigilant: #7... thats where i would start
[03:39] <urielvigilant> holstein iam tempted to start there from this : I resolved the issue: edit ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/desktop.conf and remove the line 'network_gui/command=nm-applet'  Upon reboot I now have only a single network icon in the indicator applet
[03:39] <urielvigilant> but here appear nammed like " Notification ARea "
[03:39] <urielvigilant> and not as network_gui
[03:39] <urielvigilant> what do you think ?
[03:40] <holstein> urielvigilant: ymmv.. then, refer to what i stated above.. otherwise, i just test as another user to see if my user config is causing the issue
[03:40] <holstein> urielvigilant: you state earlier nothing being able to get into the session
[03:45] <urielvigilant> i cant fimd the path to edit
[03:45] <urielvigilant> dir
[03:45] <urielvigilant> crt alt T , then DIr
[03:45] <urielvigilant> then where is the config ?
[03:45] <holstein> urielvigilant: they are hidden
[03:46] <holstein> control h from a file manager should let you browse
[03:46] <holstein> what would i do? just move most or all of .config out of the way, and relog.. and test..
[04:53] <urielvigilant> holstein i solved my duplicated networks controls from Notification Area, starting my Lubuntu in LXDE mode.
[04:54] <urielvigilant> Looks like using my Lubuntu 14.04.1 in LXDE mode, it looks like up to  40% faster or more then in Lubuntu mode.what do you think ?
[04:58] <urielvigilant> Lubuntu 14.04.1 is faster runing in Lxde mode then in Lubuntu mode ?
[05:07] <urielvigilant> Lxde is faster then Lubuntu doesnit ?
[05:15] <urielvigilant> hey, with Lxde mode iam able to see 1080 p YouTube quality with out problems and with Ubuntu i can go far then 480 with out stops or discordenance between sound and image!
[09:30] <Marcangel_> bonjour a tous
[09:31] <Marcangel_> je souhaite quelques infos sur lubuntu :-)
[09:32] <Marcangel_> nobody speak french?
[09:33] <testdr> Marcangel_: try better: #ubuntu-fr
[09:35] <testdr> Marcangel_: je ne parle plus de francais
[09:37] <Marcangel_> nice to meet you _Marcangel :-)
[11:22] <flotschinski> i've got lubuntu 14.04 installed when a few days ago my screen froze then i shut my laptop down by pressing the shutdown button but now my account wont start
[11:22] <flotschinski> but the guest acc is starting normally
[11:29] <flotschinski> anybody got an idea how i can fix this ?
[12:27] <flotschinski> i have got lubuntu installed
[12:28] <flotschinski> a few dazs ago my screen froze and now my account wont start
[12:29] <flotschinski> but the guest account is starting normally
[12:30] <testdr> flotschinski: use the ubuntu-live-iso to boot your computer and check if all data is available. Maybe you have /home on a separate partition and there are (bad) hardware problems to mount this part.
[12:32] <flotschinski> yeah i killed mz Laptop after the screen froce and now its not starting anzmore
[12:34] <flotschinski> i can tap in my password and the the background appear but nothing else happens
[12:38] <testdr> flotschinski: tap? Did you try the boot of the live-version? Your computer is broken and you need to check whats running and how to fix - but not with the installed version. Use the ubuntu-live-version for this (the one compatible to your installed version)
[13:03] <rlb_> Salut
[13:45] <logee> hello guys, one question is lubuntu using dolphin as file manager?
[15:00] <thykka> hmm
[15:00] <thykka> scrot isn't outputting a file path with $f
[15:01] <thykka> $ scrot %Y%m%d-%H%M%S_scrot.png -e "echo $f"
[15:01] <thykka> returns a blank line
[15:01] <thykka> any ideas?
[15:06] <thykka> nvm, i got it working with single quotes
[15:08] <Gassho> Hooray!
[15:13] <testdr> thykka: saw it too late - the difference between singl-quotes und double-quotes is the system may interpret the $f in a different way and not sent it to the scrot-program as an start-option
[15:24] <lubuntu_> Hi
[15:25] <lubuntu_> I install Lubuntu minimal. I see im missing network indicator
[15:39] <ianorlin> lubuntu_: did you install nm-applet?
[15:39] <lubuntu_> No
[15:39] <lubuntu_> E: Unable to locate package nm-applet
[15:42] <ianorlin> ah the package is actually called network-manager-gnome
[15:42] <ianorlin> If you used minimal install you might not have the network manager installed?
[15:42] <lubuntu_> yes
[15:44] <ianorlin> do you have access to ethernet?
[15:44] <lubuntu_> yes
[15:44] <ianorlin> ah but you don't know how to connect witthout the applet do you
[15:44] <lubuntu_> No im connected
[15:45] <lubuntu_> Just installed network manager
[15:46] <lubuntu_> so
[15:46] <lubuntu_> No applet in indicator list
[15:48] <ianorlin> can you go to the menu select run and type in nm-applet will start it but you need to add to autostart
[15:48] <ianorlin> if you want it to start automatically
[15:49] <lubuntu_> OK i think it will be easier to instlal full lubuntu
[15:49] <lubuntu_> I don't have configuration apps
[15:50] <ianorlin> you don't have to reinstall agian you could just do sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop and that will give you everything
[15:50] <lubuntu_> ye
[17:43] <lubuntu_> Hi. What is Ibus for?
[18:02] <phillw> lubuntu_: it is used mainly for multi language support
[18:02] <phillw> !ibus | lubuntu_
[18:02] <lubuntu_> ah
[18:02] <lubuntu_> So i don't need it
[18:02] <lubuntu_> Is it safe to uninstall it?
[18:03] <phillw> lubuntu_: yup, quite safe
[18:03] <lubuntu_> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[18:03] <lubuntu_>   ibus lubuntu-desktop unity-control-center unity-control-center-signon
[18:03] <phillw> lubuntu_: as our devs are from francee / taiwan etc... we have it as default :)
[18:04] <lubuntu_> Hmm i see it want's to remove other packages with ibus
[18:05] <phillw> it is safe to remove... they are meta packages and safe to go, unless you want ubuntu software center, of which lubuntu software center is smaller :)
[18:05] <phillw> lubuntu_:  ^^
[18:06] <lubuntu_> I like lubuntu software center
[18:20] <phillw> lubuntu_: allow the meta packages to be removed ... have a read of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages
[18:21] <lubuntu_> yes
[18:21] <lubuntu_> so lubuntu software center won't work properly?
[18:21] <phillw> meta package can be safely removed
[18:22] <phillw> lubuntu_: LSC will work perfectly :)
[18:22] <lubuntu_> Ah alright
[18:22] <phillw> lubuntu_: it is simply there for the initial install :)
[18:23] <lubuntu_> I would like to see hexchat icon fit into lubuntu icon theme :)
[18:23] <lubuntu_> simple grey
[18:24] <phillw> lubuntu_: look out for raffael, or email the art team. He's a very good boi and loves to chat to designers / art people.
[18:25] <phillw> lubuntu_: http://wiki.linuxpadawan.net/rafaellaguna
[18:26] <phillw> He's also doing our design for that area
[18:26] <lubuntu_> ok thanks
[18:29] <phillw> lubuntu_: just be aware, if you are a designer / art work person... He will adopt you :)
[18:30] <phillw> lubuntu_: do not fear DragonEyes
[18:39] <flotschinski> how do i reinstall my lubuntu via live-cd without loosing any data ?
[19:03] <flotschinski> how can repair my lubuntu 14.04 with the lubuntu-live cd ?
[19:12] <testdr> flotschinski: that depends on what is broken - a first entry may be this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode?action=show&redirect=BootingIntoRecoveryMode
[19:13] <flotschinski> my account is broke
[19:13] <flotschinski> i cant log in my account
[19:14] <flotschinski> just the walpa
[19:14] <flotschinski> wallpaper is showing
[19:16] <Piggybear87> Hello, all. I'm having a problem with my machine and I was wondering if anyone would know what causes this. I'm just going to put a link to my askubuntu post so I don't need to write all of that.
[19:16] <Piggybear87> http://askubuntu.com/questions/526076/weird-boot-problem
[19:19] <holstein> flotschinski: i would just remove the config from my user account.. you can rename .config, or move it temporarily and test
[19:20] <Piggybear87> What would happen when I reboot?
[19:21] <holstein> Piggybear87: that was not for you
[19:21] <testdr> Piggybear87: a computer dies and sometimes will not be re-born
[19:21] <holstein> Piggybear87: for you, i would look at hardware issues.. test ram/hard drive
[19:21] <flotschinski> and how do i remove my .config ?
[19:21] <Piggybear87> I didn't see the name, I'm sorry. :P
[19:21] <holstein> flotschinski: its in your users /home.. its called literally >config
[19:22] <flotschinski> ok thanks
[19:22] <holstein> ~/.config
[19:22] <flotschinski> i'm gonna try it :)
[19:22] <Piggybear87> Ok, this all started when I installed my video card. I can't remove it though, and still be able to play my games. Is there a work around that I could do or anything?
[19:23] <holstein> Piggybear87: sure.. a nice actual "Fix" would be, the creators of the video card give you drivers that work
[19:23] <holstein> Piggybear87: you are booting into windows to play games?
[19:23] <Piggybear87> That was in my original post but the douche bags at askubuntu changed the whole thing...
[19:23] <holstein> Piggybear87: you can try the vesa driver, or you can look for a proprietary driver..
[19:23] <Piggybear87> No.
[19:23] <holstein> Piggybear87: please be respectful of *everyone* trying to help you
[19:24] <holstein> ask ubuntu is provided free of charge to you.. if its not meeting your needs, dont use it
[19:24] <holstein> otherwise, please look into alternative graphics drivers..
[19:24] <holstein> you should be able to go into the recovery mode and install a driver. or remove an old driver
[19:24] <Piggybear87> I am using the "official" driver from "additional driver" in the menu, but I have tried all 4 with the same result.
[19:25] <testdr> Piggybear87: let me guess - sound like a nvidia-graka, but what flavour? An old one?
[19:25] <holstein> Piggybear87: ok.. those, as they should say in their desciptions, have *no* guarantee.. they are not ubuntu or linux drivers.. they are either cobbled together "revere engineered" or proprietary
[19:26] <holstein> Piggybear87: are you dual booting and playing games in windows? or tryihng to get 3d support in linux?
[19:26] <Piggybear87> testdr, yes an older one. holstein, I'm playing Red Eclipse and Minetest.
[19:26] <Piggybear87> On linux. I don't dual boot.
[19:26] <holstein> Piggybear87: in what, friend.. im trying to decide if you *need* 3d support in linux.. do you?
[19:27] <holstein> if now, the vesa driver is an option..
[19:27] <holstein> if not*
[19:27] <holstein> Piggybear87: otherewise, you are likely *not* playing any games in linux right now.. is that correct? you have no driver support?
[19:28] <Piggybear87> I do play. My machine works perfect in recovery.
[19:28] <holstein> Piggybear87: i would just use it "perfectly" there, then. and in the future, be more "careful" when changing devices like that
[19:29] <Piggybear87> But I don't like force restarting every time I boot my machine.
[19:29] <holstein> if you installed a proprietary driver, and *then* changed the device, i would expect issues.. otherwise, you should be able to , reinsatll the driver manually, or look for an xorg.conf that is "breaking "things
[19:29] <holstein> Piggybear87: ok.. you said "perfectly".. thats not "perfectly" then..
[19:29] <testdr> Piggybear87: RedEclipse - is there a new 64bit version or still the old 386er from a lot of years ago?
[19:30] <holstein> i would keep it simple.. i would run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and share errors.. reboot and test
[19:30] <Piggybear87> I have no clue testdr. I just play.
[19:31] <flotschinski> holstein i am in the lubuntu live cd menu what should i do now ?
[19:31] <Ragnar01> hello there =)
[19:31] <melodie> hi
[19:31] <holstein> flotschinski: i would remove or rename the config for the user that is not working
[19:32] <Piggybear87> I run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get update every 3 days.
[19:32] <holstein> ~/.config
[19:32] <holstein> Piggybear87: if you would please run it *right* now, share errors and reboot and test
[19:32] <melodie> Piggybear87 so you run twice the same command, which is not very useful
[19:32] <holstein> Piggybear87: then, after that, i would purge my nvidia drivers, and reinstall
[19:32] <melodie> the second should be "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[19:33] <holstein> Piggybear87: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" please
[19:33] <melodie> holstein hi :D
[19:33] <Piggybear87> I just did, no errors, just 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. And I meant upgrade and update.
[19:33] <testdr> holstein: Piggybear87 still did not say what kind of graka - it could be an old one and he is using new drivers without support for the old one.
[19:33] <melodie> Piggybear87 "dist-upgrade" !!!
[19:33] <melodie> Piggybear87 not just "upgrade"
[19:33] <Piggybear87> I JUST RAN EXACTLY WHAT YOU WROTE!
[19:34] <holstein> Piggybear87: next in my suggestons above is, purge nvidia driver.. after "dest-upgrade"..
[19:34] <melodie> so why do you say something else?
[19:34] <Piggybear87> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[19:34] <holstein> Piggybear87: gain, please be respectful.. no caps
[19:34] <holstein> again*
[19:34] <holstein> melodie: o/
[19:34] <Ragnar01> if anybody can help me, it would be very much appreciated. i tried to update from 12.xx to trusty tahr and now my installation seems to be messed up. i get some "System program problem" messages after i log in and open box seems to only start partially. mouse cursor and background image are there but no icons. help? please? =)
[19:34] <melodie> Ragnar01 what method did you use to upgrade?
[19:35] <holstein> Ragnar01: i like to test the live CD *before* upgrading. but, at that point, i would test the user config.. try logging in tty, and as guest.. or as a new user
[19:35] <holstein> !tty
[19:35] <testdr> Ragnar01: do you have the 14.04.1 live lubuntu version? Check with it - and if the main system is to much "crumbled" it might be better to save your user-data and install a fresh one
[19:35] <Ragnar01> melodie, the normal updater window, that kept bugging me to update
[19:35] <Piggybear87> I am using the correct drivers, the proprietary one.
[19:35] <holstein> Piggybear87: please purge *whatever* drivers.. and reboot, and reinstall
[19:36] <Piggybear87> I don't know how to do that.
[19:36] <melodie> Ragnar01 interesting! This sayd, I think other people here want to help you so follow their instructions and see how it goes?
[19:36] <holstein> Piggybear87: the "correct" one is *not* the proprietary driver, but the driver that works for you.. they are not guaranteed to work in any way
[19:36] <melodie> Piggybear87 you do "sudo apt-get remove --purge nivdia"
[19:36] <Ragnar01> testdr, i will try that out. i was hoping not to reinstall the whole thing
[19:36] <Piggybear87> I tried all 4 and the one from Nividia.com
[19:36] <melodie> Piggybear87 and that's it
[19:36] <holstein> !nvidia
[19:37] <holstein> Piggybear87: please remove the driver you have installed, purge it, and reinstall the one that the wiki suggests you use for your hardware
[19:37] <melodie> Ragnar01 <holstein> Ragnar01: i like to test the live CD *before* upgrading. but, at that point, i would test the user config.. try logging in tty, and as guest.. or as a new user
[19:37] <melodie> Ragnar01 try first what holstein told you
[19:37] <Ragnar01> melodie, oh, i didnt see that
[19:37] <Ragnar01> holstein, thx
[19:38] <testdr> Ragnar01: the problem is - a new install will only take 1-2 hours, depends on what you want to configure and re-install missing packets - but a repair, if you dont know what is broken, will take a lot more time. If you have the space to backup your necessary data (passwords, browser-settings, mail-config, doc-templates, etc.) than a backup is better and a re-install more easy and you are shure to get a clean system.
[19:38] <testdr> a - dropped out too quick - slow typing
[19:39] <Piggybear87> I have done that and messed up my entire machine and had to reinstall Lubuntu. I'm not going through that again. -_-
[19:40] <phillw> testdr: that is why people who have issues do this .... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving :D
[19:40] <holstein> Piggybear87: cool.. just let the volunteers know when youare ready to cooperate with troubleshooting ideas.. otherwise, try #ubuntu, since this is not related to lubuntu or lxde specifically.. good luck
[19:40] <Piggybear87> That's all for older versions too. I'm on 14.04.1 not 10.04
[19:40] <holstein> Piggybear87: that?
[19:40] <holstein> Piggybear87: the wiki? the wiki page i linked is for *all* nvidia hardware
[19:40] <Ragnar01> ah! guestaccount seems to be working!
[19:41] <holstein> Ragnar01: then, the issue is likely just in your users /home/.config
[19:41] <holstein> ~/.config
[19:41] <Piggybear87> I am cooperating, I simply telling what I've done and it was wrong.
[19:41] <holstein> Piggybear87: so, you are purging the driver?
[19:42] <Piggybear87> I followed that wiki page before and it messed up my machine.
[19:42] <Ragnar01> holstein, so, how do i determine want is wrong in there? and thank you very much, btw
[19:42] <testdr> phillw: i know - but most dont read the wiki - why read something? I have around 5-6 different ubuntu-installs on smaller partitions.
[19:42] <Ragnar01> -a+e
[19:42] <holstein> Ragnar01: i just rename it, reboot, and test.. then, i put back things *if* i need them
[19:43] <phillw> testdr: you'd hate me teaching you about LVM :D
[19:43] <holstein> Ragnar01: otherwise, something with the upgrade likely is the issue.. could have been a PPA version of something from 12.04.. who knows
[19:43] <testdr> Ragnar01: the problem is - a new install will only take 1-2 hours, depends on what you want to configure and re-install missing packets - but a repair, if you dont know what is broken, will take a lot more time. If you have the space to backup your necessary data (passwords, browser-settings, mail-config, doc-templates, etc.) than a backup is better and a re-install more easy and you are shure to get a clean system.
[19:43] <testdr> Ragnar01: and first - do a backup of your data you need.
[19:44] <holstein> Piggybear87: that *is* the "best" documentation we have for the hardware yo u are working with. i to have had issues with hardware that doesnt promise linux support. typically, when geting new nvidia hardware, i'll do a fresh install and try *all* drivers. and then, i'll sometimes reinstall again after i learn how best to support the device
[19:44] <testdr> phillw: no problem - i dont use lvm - i like to have separate encrypted partitions.
[19:44] <Ragnar01> holstein, i see. i do understand it was kinda stupid of me not to try the sytem out first
[19:44] <holstein> Piggybear87: otherwse, purge and reinstall the driver.. look for an xorg.conf that nvidia-config could habe put there
[19:45] <Ragnar01> again, thank you guys =D
[19:45] <holstein> Ragnar01: well, im just a "look before you leap" kind of guy.. i dont think its stupid.. its just challenging to promise the upgrades are going to be flawless on all hardware
[19:45] <phillw> testdr: you can encypt lvm sections :)
[19:46] <Piggybear87> I just said I have done that. I'm on my 7th "Fresh install", I have tried 5 different drivers (the 4 from "Additional Drivers" and the one from Nvidia's website.
[19:46] <holstein> Piggybear87: actually, what you said was, you had installed a new card.. and that it was the same installlation
[19:47] <holstein> Piggybear87: is that the case? or, have you had the fresh install since the "new" graphics card?
[19:48] <holstein> Piggybear87: the problem is, the device is not promised to work in linux.. there is nothing ubuntu or lubuntu or linux is doing to prevent that nvidia card from performing flawlessly.. but, if its not working with *any* driver, it may not work in linux
[19:48] <holstein> they never said it would..
 I have done that and messed up my entire machine and had to reinstall Lubuntu. I'm not going through that again. -_-                            <Piggybear87> I tried all 4 and the one from Nividia.com
[19:49] <holstein> its15:22 < Piggybear87> Ok, this all started when I installed my video card. I can't remove it though, and still be able to play my games. Is there a
[19:49] <holstein> ^ thats what im referencing
[19:49] <holstein> thats what i read as, you had an install, and put a new graphics card in.. is that the case?
[19:50] <holstein> or, you put the card in? and have fresh installed?
[19:50] <Piggybear87> I have to remove the card to install Lubuntu or the disk won't even start.
[19:50] <holstein> Piggybear87: if you need 3d support, you may have to get a card that better support the operating system you are using
[19:50] <holstein> Piggybear87: what disk? a  fresh install? or an older install?
[19:50] <Piggybear87> 14.04.1
[19:50] <holstein> the live dist?
[19:51] <holstein> disk?
[19:51] <Piggybear87> The install disk.
[19:51] <holstein> !nomodeset
[19:51] <Piggybear87> I tried nomodeset, that worked but my 3d games were 2d.
[19:51] <holstein> Piggybear87: i would get the live CD running on the hardware, and go from there.. if it wont load, then, i would expect a hard time, at best
[19:51] <holstein> Piggybear87: you use nomodeset to get the installer to run
[19:52] <holstein> Piggybear87: you *dont* install with another card, swap card, and expect magic
[19:52] <Piggybear87> My frind gave me this card and he has similar hardware and the same OS.
[19:52] <swede_30> hello channel!
[19:52] <holstein> Piggybear87: cool.. ask your friend how to use it
[19:52] <Piggybear87> He doesn't know, that's why I'm here.
[19:53] <holstein> Piggybear87: then, i dont, and you shouldnt believe the friend
[19:53] <holstein> Piggybear87: otherweise, use nomodeset to run the live environment, and after the install, try the proprietary drivers.. if you havfe triedt hem all, and they dont meet your needs, that may be the case
[19:53] <Piggybear87> I used his machine, with this card, on Lubuntu 14.04.1, 2 weeks ago.
[19:54] <holstein> Piggybear87: ok.. the hardware can also be failing..
[19:54] <melodie> holstein Piggybear87 I don't know what the issue is, but just for your information : it happens once a while that a nvidia gpu does not play nice with a given CPU
[19:54] <holstein> Piggybear87: nothing lubuntu is doing is preventing that card from working.. i promise you.. we *all* want it to work
[19:54] <holstein> nvidia doesnt promise the device will work with linux.. in any way..
[19:55] <holstein> but, if it did work and doesnt, and you have been plugging and re-plugging, it could be failing
[19:55] <melodie> Piggybear87 holstein : so you should not compare only the Operating System versus the GPU but also against the CPU !
[19:55] <melodie> what is the issue about anyway?
[19:56] <Piggybear87> I have to force reboot to get my machine to run, and I have to run in recovery mode every time.
[19:56] <holstein> Piggybear87: thats a workaround for the issue.. whats the issue about?
[19:56] <holstein> and, thats about, driver support, or the hardware failing
[19:57] <Piggybear87> It works fine, so it's not failing. It must be driver support, or OS support.
[19:58] <holstein> Piggybear87: there is *no* os support at all.. the linux kernel has not proprietary 3d nvidia drivers available to it.. so it *cant* be a problem with the OS support.. its just not there at all
[19:58] <holstein> Piggybear87: if could be a driver problem, since the driver creators never promised they would work, but, they actually state there could be problems with the drivers
[19:58] <Piggybear87> It says that it's the proprietary driver in the menu.
[19:58] <holstein> Piggybear87: it?
[19:59] <holstein> Piggybear87: anyways, you are getting a kernel panic
[19:59] <holstein> Piggybear87: if you want to just simply boot into that recovery mode, do that.. you can edit grub, and just boot into it each time.
[20:00] <Piggybear87> I guess I just have to ditch Linux and return to satan. If I can't fix this by monday, I switching back.
[20:00] <Piggybear87> I'm*
[20:04] <holstein> in this case, satan = the operating system the device manufacturer promises support for, i suppose?
[20:34] <flotschinski> renaming the .config didnt work
[20:37] <flotschinski> what should i try now ?
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