[08:32] <foobarry> meh
[08:32] <foobarry> gloomy weather
[08:36] <foobarry> my phone is out for delivery so when i see lost guy in the street i keep thinking its him
[08:37] <shauno> if you see him, it's probably not the delivery guy.  they're trained by ninjas to sneak up and slip a 'sorry we missed you' note without you ever spotting them
[08:37] <foobarry> the first 3 links in the bbc "most read" today are from 2013 and 2012 :S
[08:48] <foobarry> http://imgur.com/a/eV8H7 work in progress
[09:02] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:06] <dutchie> hi brobostigon
[09:06] <brobostigon> hi dutchie
[10:34] <penguin421> better, I think
[10:34] <penguin421> hmm, not yet
[10:35] <penguin42> right
[11:44] <directhex> apparently nobody's in the market for a used desktop pc.
[11:55] <penguin42> the problem is new ones aren't that pricey; what spec?
[11:59] <foobarry> argh my sim isn't micro. scissors to the rescue
[12:03] <daftykins> directhex: trying to get rid? :)
[12:04] <daftykins> foobarry: i hope it's not an iPhone 6 you just got :P
[12:04] <foobarry> nope... moto
[12:05] <daftykins> ah-har
[12:05] <foobarry> i can get 6 moto for 1 ihpone
[12:05] <daftykins> :D
[12:05] <daftykins> nice model btw, those tiles look fiddly
[12:05] <foobarry> :D
[12:05] <foobarry> ta
[12:05] <foobarry> tiles were actually moulded as one block
[12:05] <foobarry> the main issue is a decent paint job
[12:06] <daftykins> ah i see, so it is to be a model of a rundown building
[12:06] <foobarry> yes
[12:06] <foobarry> diorama will have other stuff in it too
[12:06] <foobarry> maybe creeping vines and a tank
[12:06] <directhex> daftykins, yes.
[12:07] <directhex> penguin42, i7 920, 12G DDR3, 240GB SSD, 1TB SSHD
[12:08] <daftykins> foobarry: :D i look forward to updates
[12:09] <foobarry> :P
[12:09] <penguin42> directhex: Decent spec - how much were you asking for it?
[12:10] <directhex> penguin42, depends on whether i can find someone who'll take it with no GPU (i'd like to put it in my wife's PC, since she already has the same one, for SLI)
[12:10] <daftykins> lol SLI
[12:10] <daftykins> :)
[12:11] <daftykins> directhex: do you have anything up online about it? i have a friend in England who may know someone
[12:11] <directhex> daftykins, not yet
[12:12] <penguin42> directhex: cex do seem to buy desktops, but I bet they don't pay much
[12:13] <popey> i wonder if directhex has me on ignore
[12:13] <penguin42> directhex: I guess that's probably what - ~400 ?
[12:13] <popey> i responded twice
[12:13] <directhex> popey, bah, i need an IRC bouncer :/
[12:13] <daftykins> popey also needs to highlight people ;)
[12:14] <popey> i replied _immediately_ afterwards
[12:14] <popey> anyone who asks a question then walks away from the screen needs to re-evaluate their IRC use :þ
[12:14] <popey> by "immediately" I mean "10 mins" ☻
[12:15] <penguin42> popey: Depends on the channel; I know some channels with ~2 hour latency; it might be a challenge to wait that long
[12:15] <daftykins> hah, sadly that doesn't apply to channels i'm in :(
[12:16] <directhex> "don't irc if you have a toddler"?
[12:16] <popey> true dat
[12:16] <penguin42> my irc clients have this thing called a scrollbar - great invention
[12:18] <daftykins> hehe
[12:18] <daftykins> penguin42: cheeky chappy ;)
[13:10] <directhex> right, back from the park, toddler in bed
[13:10] <directhex> popey, please repeat your original response to my "pc for sale" query
[13:10] <popey> lolz
[13:10] <popey> 18:01:00 < popey> 13:28:34 < popey> possibly
[13:10] <popey> 18:01:00 < popey> 13:28:41 < popey> wot is it?
[13:11]  * popey wanders off ㋛
[13:13] <daftykins> XD
[13:13] <daftykins> i look forward to the conclusion of this transaction in Q1'15
[13:14] <shauno> an optimist, I see
[13:14] <daftykins> :)
[13:15] <directhex> lian-li PC-B25B; zalman power supply (at least 650W, i'd have to look it up); Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 motherboard; Intel Core i7 920, 6x2GB DDR3; LG BD-ROM/DVDRW drive; Kingston HyperX 240GB SSD; Seagate 1TB SSHD
[13:18] <popey> how much were you looking for?
[13:26] <directhex> 3-400? i dunno. low hassle is worth a big discount. what does ebay say for the parts? hm...
[13:31] <directhex> looks like an easy £150 for the cpu+mobo+some ram, few extra quid for the second 6gb, £30 for the case, £75 for the ssd, £50 for the sshd, £40 for the power supply, £25 for the optical drive
[13:31] <directhex> oh, and there's a windows vista home basic oem license on the back. and i'll toss in windows 7 pro upgrade and windows 8 pro upgrade licenses
[13:32] <directhex> £300 for the above (please note no GPU) seems fair to me
[13:32] <directhex> since you could strip & ebay it and turn a profit
[13:47] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqansosdlr83eea/IMG_20140920_144436.jpg?dl=0
[13:47] <daftykins> new free desk \o/
[13:48] <directhex> so much room for activities!
[13:51] <foobarry> hmmm wish i was in new look with the missis just now. she ordered an item, turns out the wrong one when she went to collect it, they wouldn't refund her, only give a store credit :@
[13:51] <foobarry> thats not legal
[13:52] <foobarry> said the product she ordered wasnt in stock anymore either
[13:53] <daftykins> directhex: and none to do! \o/
[16:53] <ali1234> omg wtf
[16:53] <ali1234> the video overlay key colour used by mplayer conflicts with the green font on nvidia's forums
[16:53] <ali1234> so if you have a video playing in the background when you visit it looks like you've got weird font corruption
[16:54] <zmoylan-pi> they're hoping this will make you buy a new video card? :-)
[17:39] <directhex> ali1234, who still uses colour key overlay for video playback? ._.
[17:39] <zmoylan-pi> hardware decoding for dvds?
[18:00] <ali1234> directhex: actually turns out it was from flash
[18:00] <ali1234> not mplayer
[18:01] <ali1234> specifically youtube
[18:01] <shauno> that doesn't sound right.  flash is a bastion of good behaviour and modern design
[19:35] <daftykins> http://www.twitch.tv/oculus Carmack talking dev
[19:37] <penguin42> There was an Oculus in CEX today - I was almost tempted
[19:37] <popey> yeah, i saw one in cex a few weeks back
[19:48] <tripleclones> hi all, I'm having some weird issues with a iwl3945 card on a thinkpad t60 running 14.04 - seems to only connect when it wants :(
[19:49] <daftykins> mmm, pretty old that one
[19:49] <daftykins> i think i've heard of there being two main drivers available and sometimes the other is the better
[19:49] <tripleclones> I have tried iwl-legacy as well
[19:49] <popey> ☹ intel wifi
[19:50] <tripleclones> yeah
[19:50] <popey> used to be the benchmark. has gone down hill over the years
[19:51] <tripleclones> this is a old device, was running 12.04 fine, I've read some people have similar issues on jessy and mint 17
[19:51] <daftykins> may as well carry on with 12.04.5 for another 2 years
[19:51] <tripleclones> thats what I was thinking
[19:52] <tripleclones> its a family laptop - the way it gets treated 2 years is wishful thinking ;)
[19:53] <daftykins> hahaha
[19:53] <daftykins> oh dear
[19:54] <daftykins> tripleclones: oddly i have the same card in an old sony ultraportable that's working just fine under xubuntu 14.04.1
[19:54] <tripleclones> um
[19:54] <popey> i have the same in my toshiba i think, not had a problem
[19:54] <daftykins> tripleclones: was it an upgrade?
[19:55] <popey> daftykins: you watching this carmack thing?
[19:55] <daftykins> popey: yes sir
[19:55] <tripleclones> daftykins: yes
[19:55] <daftykins> i'm no developer, but it's interesting :)
[19:56] <daftykins> tripleclones: hmm, wouldn't hurt to try a live session if you haven't
[19:56] <tripleclones> daftykins: if I'm going to reinstall fresh are you thinking it might be worth trying a fresh trusty first?
[19:56] <tripleclones> daftykins: I haven't - thats a good idea
[19:56] <daftykins> yeah sure, are you using unity though?
[19:56] <tripleclones> daftykins: yes it works fine for my family
[19:57] <tripleclones> it was easier moving to unity then it would have been teaching them to use windows 8 ;)
[19:57] <daftykins> hehe
[19:57] <daftykins> i just think for older hardware that xubuntu is a really nice setup
[19:58] <penguin42> mate is nice
[19:58] <tripleclones> problem is the main desktop family use for games (well minecraft) is unity - I like to keeps things consistent
[20:02] <daftykins> not sure how the desktop environment influences minecraft's use?
[20:02] <daftykins> maybe i'm being slow
[20:03] <tripleclones> it doesn't sorry
[20:03] <tripleclones> I just cant be bothered to change both and teach wife and kids
[20:03] <tripleclones> (mainly wife)
[20:03] <daftykins> :D fair enough
[20:03] <popey> is xfce still being maintained?
[20:04] <daftykins> pass!
[20:06] <tripleclones> popey: what channel is the carmack thing on?
[20:09] <daftykins> tripleclones: http://www.twitch.tv/oculus
[20:11] <daftykins> aaand it's done
[20:12] <tripleclones> ah I thought it was a documentary or such like