=== SilverCodeZA is now known as SilverCode [06:53] morning Vince-0 and others [06:58] hi StonedAlchemist hows the allergies? [06:58] hehe [06:59] i go let sheep out [07:16] hi HiMaX [07:16] hey Kilos [07:16] whats with nick change [07:16] you make me think more [07:17] just other account [07:17] thinking is good :) [07:17] hehe [07:17] not for me man [07:18] my head only likes to see things not have to think about them as well [07:18] aspecially for you. It adds extra years [07:18] lol [07:19] so the television is to blame :D [07:19] ya [07:51] Hey guys! Anyone else at SFD? [07:51] Charl is organiser right? [07:52] na charl is the the netherlands [07:53] Ah kk [07:53] you mean karl [07:53] Yeah, thought they same guy... [07:53] im trying to remember his name [07:54] karl fischer [07:59] Yeah [08:36] * inetpro is at SFD [08:36] decided to go on the last minute [08:37] amazed to see so many people here [08:37] good [08:37] Yeah, over 180 from the facebook page i saw [08:37] sjoe [08:38] what is an SFD? [08:38] Heh, like karls humor [08:38] Himax: software freedom day [08:38] tehblazehen: ohk [08:40] Mark Shuttleworth too? [08:40] he was here for the court case i think , he maybe would attent such an event [08:41] Himax: nah, not here [08:42] As far as i know.. [08:42] tehblazehen: ohk [08:52] inetpro: didnt hear 1st time, where do we register? [09:03] tehblazehen: at the front there's a qcode with the URL [09:04] Kk, ty [09:04] Have you still got the url you can paste? [09:04] simply takes you to a simple form which feeds your info to Google Docs [09:05] http://win.sfd.org.za/ [09:05] Ty [09:05] now everyone can register without even being here :-) [09:06] not sure how you'll get your free burger though [09:06] Yeah [09:07] tehblazehen: did he really say we're getting a free burger? [09:07] Inetpro: yeah, he did.. :D [09:07] hehe [09:08] ill register get mine too [09:08] Not sure how long mcdonalds will take though... [09:08] Kilos: lol, gonna provide shipping address? [09:08] no the pro can have it [09:09] he has many hungry kids [09:09] haha [09:09] inetpro: this guy mentioned that this is based on ovirt... Wanna try ovirt at home now [09:09] it says thanks for entering, so what now [09:10] haha Kilos, you really registered? [09:10] yeah [09:10] ai! [09:11] Kilos: i guess you share your mail and name, and we receive your burger? [09:11] Speaking about chicken: try playing 7Hz tone at them :D [09:11] the pro knows that , he borrows my email addy now and again [09:11] Resonant frequency for skull [09:12] Ross Addis speaking at the moment [09:13] lots of advanced stuff here today [09:13] Yeah [09:13] Waiting for the ansible, ELK, and map reduce talks [09:13] Docker was interesting [09:19] F systemd [09:20] Walter talking about privacy now [09:21] interesting how he uses the browser for his presentation [09:22] Yeah [09:22] Funny how default search is google, considering the topic of the talk [09:22] Lol [09:23] Must be using something like impress.js [09:23] can you see the URL? [09:23] Localhost:8000 it seems [09:24] Cant see rest [09:24] hmm [09:24] Where about are you? [09:26] at the back [09:27] Same. Middle of the tall chairs [09:33] hi tehblazehen [09:33] Hi psytab [09:33] has anyone seen charl recently? [09:34] Psytab: in Netherlands atm [09:34] tehblazehen, are you? or do you mean charl? I came to Poland yesterday [09:35] Psytab: charl is [09:35] oh, I see [09:35] I was in the Netherlands for the past few weeks [09:35] Ah kk [09:36] charl is most likely touring somewhere again this weekend [09:36] and I will probably be going to Ireland soon [09:36] hi Kilos [09:36] hi psytab [09:37] yes, that's fine [09:37] you gonna take the job in ireland? [09:37] I think so, yes [09:37] Inetpro: dont think we getting burgers... [09:37] they just need to decide on the location, I hope it will be Ireland [09:38] ok [09:38] good luck with whatever you decide to do [09:40] thanks [09:45] inetpro: where you at? [09:52] tehblazehen: standing at the back now [09:52] Kk [09:54] nice meeting you in person :-) [09:54] Same here:) [09:54] hehe [09:57] have you actually met yet ? [09:57] Hmm, open access seems nice... Got a few alife articles that id like to read [09:57] Himax: yeah [09:58] tehblazehen: oh , cause inetpro said his standing at the back [09:58] Himax: yeah, lol [10:00] Yeah! Ansible next! [10:00] this talk by the UP is very interesting [10:01] Yeah [10:02] Those profits are REALLY high... [10:06] Damn, thats all f*cked up... [10:07] hi inetpro [10:07] so where are you guys? [10:07] at some kind of conference? [10:08] Psytab: software freedom day [10:08] psytab: eh [10:08] aha [10:08] At pretoria gautrain station [10:08] ok [10:08] Yay! Ansible! [10:13] Damn.. I should watch that [10:16] Lol, xkcd.. Havn't seen that one that i rembember though.. [10:19] Being able to do it all based on tags would be nice.. Eg. Webservers and jabber servers on 1 machine [10:24] Yeah, way better than puppet IMO... [10:26] I'll have to read up on this one [10:29] Burgers! [10:37] These rubiks cubes will be "fun"... [10:38] inetpro: you get kilos's burger? Lol [10:39] haha [10:41] thanks to the sponsors! [10:43] Yeah! [10:44] awesome to see so many people who care about freedom [10:44] Yeah, IIRC it was similar, maybe a bit smaller, last year? [10:45] send pics of the burger :p http://picpaste.com [10:45] Himax: youll have to wait for it to digest first... [10:46] inetpro, tell me when you are home and on a pc [10:47] i got a slexy paste that i dunno what to do [10:47] tehblazehen: oh well, dont want you to burn your cam [10:47] im sure something must be uncommented [10:47] Himax: lol [10:47] Kilos: whats that for? [10:47] https://plus.google.com/114254397525521567468/posts/GjTEcpG91pF [10:48] to share 3g over direct eth cable [10:48] http://slexy.org/view/s21qKQHeYr [10:48] but my two machines cant ping each other [10:49] Kilos: done anything with iptables? [10:49] Can your machines ping each other? [10:50] everything i can find notes on [10:51] nope they cant ping each other at all. something is stopping that function from allowing that to happen [10:51] almost like the cable is unplugged [10:52] Kilos: output from "ip li"? [10:52] On both machines [10:55] hmm... [10:55] i cant copy past from the server [10:55] but here is this machine [10:55] Kk [10:55] http://slexy.org/view/s21t9OYfX2 [10:56] ip ad ? [10:57] explain [10:57] ip ad output? [10:57] i have done everything that allowed old pcs to share on 10.10 i think it was [10:58] Kk [10:59] http://slexy.org/view/s2rFiuSnrn [10:59] something in 14.04 isnt allowing all those old commands to work [11:00] Seems ok [11:00] thats what makes me think something must be uncommented [11:01] Yeah [11:01] No ping though? What is "ip ro" on both machines? [11:02] all the info on the web says its simple in nm you choose shared to other computers but that doesnt work either [11:03] gave the output in pm [11:03] pasting to a bin is lotsa work [11:03] Yeah [11:04] Alan McKinnon talking about [11:26] Kilos: I suggest you type out every step of your setup how you got to where you are [11:27] then share that and try to get people to help [11:28] inetpro: had a look at some of his info, think i can help later [11:29] ok [11:56] Yeah... Windows is "POSIX" ... [12:01] 'lo all [12:01] hi Squirm [12:19] POSERIX, you mean? [12:20] hi Squirm [16:10] oh hay [16:17] Hi Vince-0 [16:17] hi [16:18] inetpro: which talk was your favourite today? [16:48] I assume I dropped out because I'm using 512 MB of swap on a machine with 512 MB of RAM... [16:48] VPS needs faster ssd [17:30] hi Vince-0 and others [17:30] im watching a series about the pro and i [17:30] beauty and the beast [17:30] you decide who is who [17:31] Kilos: ? [17:31] Kilos: ? [17:31] hehe [17:31] lemme paste what i have done [17:31] are you home? [17:31] Kilos: yeah [17:32] http://slexy.org/view/s21DcpJHFV [17:32] I'm actually thinking what I was thinking is wrong [17:32] You're using static IP's right? [17:32] on 10.10 doing all that maade the pcs pingable [17:32] yip [17:33] yeah, no further help. Sorry [17:33] but even the dhcp dont connect to the router so nowq im trying direct cable [17:33] i think its something that 14.04 enjoys doing [17:33] disabling something [17:33] kk [17:34] by default, then you gotta find what [17:35] ive tried the cables into a switch thing and no change [17:37] kk [17:37] does this look right [17:37] http://slexy.org/view/s2Qlb24HTv [17:37] mustnt some of them things be uncommented [17:40] and must i have dnsmasq installed or not [17:41] Kilos: Think you should try https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Internet_sharing [17:42] Worked for me few months ago [17:42] lemme look [17:42] on 14.04? [17:42] or rather https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sharing_PPP_Connection [17:42] yeah, should work [17:43] ok ill try anything ty theblazehen [17:43] kk, np [17:48] good evening all [17:48] hi magespawn [17:49] how are is it going Kilos? [17:49] good ty magespawn and you [17:49] ? [17:49] yup all good, time at home for a bit [17:55] i am trying to find a way to issue a command, have the out put got a file, then have that file date stamped and rotated according to a schedule [17:55] haha [17:57] so something like this, ping www.some.website > somewebsite.txt rotate every twelve hours [17:57] or once a day [17:57] each file would then be saved as datesomewebsite.txt [17:59] Evening guys [17:59] so ping www.some.website > somewebsite.text does the first bit of taking the ouput of the command and putting it straight into a log file [17:59] hi bduk on a weekend nogal [18:00] hi bduk [18:01] dam minetest [18:01] magespawn, you seen to be winning but if you need help you need clever help [18:02] oh did you see the fly had a female grub [18:02] or miggie [18:19] bduk, whats the problem [18:20] or are you just addicted [18:21] theblazehen, when i try Start the dnsmasq daemon. [18:21] addicted [18:21] Kilos: yeah? [18:21] i get dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket for port 53: Address already in use [18:21] sorry im so slow [18:22] Kilos: hmm, and it's not already running I assume? service dnsmasq restart [18:23] ya it was running ty [18:23] kk [19:04] grrr [19:04] i give up for tonight [19:05] just making things worse and worse i think [19:07] Not winning Kilos ? [19:08] na ive done so much and all i did was kill my 3g so had to start working backwards to get the=at going again [19:08] grrr [19:08] 14.04 is painful [19:09] What is broken? [19:09] now my eth is gone [19:09] I'll ask Mazal to give you a windows 8 copy Kilos [19:09] Rofl [19:09] bduk, how old are you and how old do you want to reach [19:10] Windows 9 is about to come out, so just wait :P [19:10] saying things like that is a shortcut to the pearly gates [19:10] i use windows 7 [19:10] 50 and i don't care much [19:11] to use up the first 30 gig of my drive that is faulty [19:15] now echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forwardroute -n [19:15] doesnt even run anymore [19:16] good evening [19:16] whats good about it [19:16] too cold [19:16] too late [19:16] too stupid [19:16] hello inetpro [19:17] Hi inetpro [19:17] howdy inetpro [19:21] inetpro: which talk was your favourite today? [19:21] tough question [19:22] perhaps the one with the lady from UP was most interesting for me but not most relevant in my line of work [19:22] Yeah, that was interesting [19:22] I'd probably say ansible, or docker [19:23] yeah I go for docker as my 2nd [19:23] inetpro, [19:23] Kilos: ? [19:23] Still not 100% sure how it compares to vagrant, seems like it's similar to vagrant, but uses containers instead of VM's, although vagrant can use a LXC backend [19:24] can i run a server on a second drive in this pc [19:24] inetpro: BTW was that your son that was with you? [19:24] Kilos: why not? [19:24] Kilos: what kind of server? [19:24] theblazehen: yep [19:24] ubuntu server [19:24] ah, kk. He also into this kind of stuff then, I assume [19:24] then i wont have this eth nonsense [19:25] Kilos: yeah, just run virtualbox [19:25] Or LXC if you want lower overhead [19:25] theblazehen: he was the one to convince me to go [19:25] no man pc too slow for virtual [19:25] inetpro: ah, nice :) [19:25] thats the whole reason for wanting a seperate server [19:25] lol, almost the same here too [19:25] Kilos: maybe kvm? [19:25] and now he's enjoying fedora [19:25] inetpro: how does he like systemd? [19:26] haha [19:26] I like the init system part, but not the "everything and kitchensinkd" [19:26] ill sommer install 10.10 again [19:27] Kilos: nooo!!1! [19:27] Kilos: Is other machine faster than this one? [19:27] 10.10 had small probs that were sorted relatively easily [19:28] no the supposed to be server is a 2.8g single core wit 1g ram [19:28] this is a dual 3g with 4g ram [19:29] and it dont like virtualbox [19:29] Kilos: use kvm then [19:29] even running minetest on a virtual goodie is slow [19:29] And if you can, get 5 GB in this machine [19:29] whats kvm [19:29] Kilos: like virtualbox, but better on linux [19:30] ddr3 is expensive [19:30] made by red hat [19:30] no ty [19:30] Kilos: yeah, price went up... [19:30] i dont enjoy redhat stuff [19:30] like centos [19:30] Kilos: runs well on other OS [19:30] proxmoxVE uses it on debian [19:31] And I use it on arch [19:31] there isnt data to download a new os and start all over again [19:31] Kilos: will work on ubuntu too [19:31] Give it a try! [19:31] i already had 3g of archives for 14.04 [19:32] all i asked was can i run a server on a second drive on this machine [19:33] at same time? [19:33] i mean can you run your system on one drive and a serev on a second drive on the same machine [19:33] server [19:33] yeah, with virtualisation [19:33] yes of course at the same time [19:34] can i virtualise onto the second drive? [19:34] sorry Kilos, theblazehen... busy with multiple things here and not concentrating on the discussions [19:34] np [19:34] did you give the kids thew hamburger [19:35] Kilos: yeah, you can [19:35] Kilos: everyone had like three burgers in the end [19:35] aha now we getting somewhere maybe [19:35] lol [19:35] hope you lekker dik [19:35] the sponsors were very generous today [19:35] nice [19:35] inetpro: ya know, I actually find it REALLY disappointing how few younger people in SA are interested in FOSS... [19:36] ms brainwashing at school [19:36] theblazehen: well that is a very good point [19:36] really sad [19:36] Like at the science expo, there were only 3 projects in comp.sci... [19:36] <1% of all projects.. [19:37] * inetpro has given up trying to convince others [19:37] some people are just blind by nature [19:37] And at this one robotics thing some of the people were acting like they're all better than others because they use ubuntu.. Tried to convince me to move to it from windows, lol [19:38] none so blind as those that will not see [19:38] inetpro: yeah. My one friend uses elementary on his laptop, and thats all... [19:38] lol, guys at robotics quickly STFU when I told them that I was running arch on desktop, with debian as VM host :p [19:39] ideally we should go back to having more regular proper LUG meetings in Pretoria [19:39] like the Johburg guys [19:39] inetpro: But seriously, only me, and ur son is all the (young) people that I know that are actually into computers [19:39] inetpro: I had a look, meets on monday right? [19:40] theblazehen, the prob has time shortages [19:40] ah, thursday ... :/ [19:40] to be honest, I really don't have the time for this at this stage [19:40] see [19:41] Walter used to be very active as part of PLUG [19:41] inetpro: I can't make thursdays :( AP Math meets then [19:41] the guy who spoke about privacy [19:41] inetpro: kk [19:41] leibrand? inetpro [19:41] many years ago we had regular meetings in person [19:41] inetpro what talks are these? [19:41] Kilos: yes [19:41] how is he [19:42] he helped me with repos once [19:42] looks like he's doing very well now [19:42] good [19:44] theblazehen: there were many more people than I expected [19:44] inetpro: at SFD? [19:44] so things are not all that bad [19:44] yes [19:44] yeah, think it's a bit bigger than last year [19:44]