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brousch_Installed a Unity Ubuntu for my son on his chromebook. He can't figure out how to close anything because of the damned hidden menus11:25
brousch_"Click the X" "There is no X" "On the left side" "There is no X" "Go to the upper left corner of the screen and an X will appear" "Oh!"11:26
tony-smlrSMLR Live E135 going Live soon - Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4twXJhXZaf4 - Audio: http://live.smlr.us:8000/streaming11:33
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/ISqaI2 - SMLR Live Episode 135 - YouTube11:33
rick_h_brousch_: teach him keyboard shortcuts like a real techie! ctrl-w11:53
brousch_How does that even work on a touch interface?11:59
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/r4DLeN - application/ogg13:02
rick_h_brousch_: the menus? I think that's why they've got the flag to always show them?13:41
cmaloneyGood morning14:26
cmaloneyIt's Touch. You never close anything14:27
cmaloneyYou just let the OS crash and close things automatically.14:27
cmaloneyThat's the way of the tablet.14:27
brousch_I mean how do you even access the hidden menu with a touch interface. There's no hover15:01
rick_h_brousch_: right and I say in a touch env you turn on permanent attached menus15:40
rick_h_brousch_: there's an option for just that15:40
rick_h_brousch_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/10481/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-the-global-application-menu see the 13pt answer for 14.0415:41
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/Aqcl8Q - unity - How do I enable or disable the global application menu? - Ask Ubuntu15:41
cmaloneyProbably not a good sign when the coffee shop closes before the coupons for it expire17:37
cmaloneyBean and Tea17:37
brousch_doh17:44
brousch_I have how good it feels to use an Apple computer. Too well built17:44
brousch_hate17:44
rick_h_huh?17:59
cmaloneyApparnently he has touched an Apple product and found the Android stuff wanting18:01
cmaloneyWhich means next time we see him we'll konk him on the head and drown him in the lake18:02
rick_h_heh18:02
rick_h_everyone partying on sunday?18:06
cmaloneyIn thieory18:07
brousch_No, the old Apple laptop18:48
brousch_My wife uses it and I'm updating it for her18:49
brousch_Such a perfect touchpad18:50
rick_h_because touchpads are evil18:51
derekvhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_QIfHvN9auy2CoOdSfMWDw/videos  =D19:20
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/VfytpT - Strange Loop - YouTube19:20
rick_h_<3 derekv19:21
derekvyea FRP is really big this year. also, advanced type systems.  everything else normal for strangeloop: distributed databases continues to be big, more lisp, logic programming, etc.  a bit more haskell then before, maybe.19:27
derekvbrb19:27
derekv fueled my interest in typing systems19:31
derekvreenforced that i know basically nothing about distributed data stores19:37
rick_h_yea, that one and glucon are two on my list of conf to attend19:42
derekvcome prepared to read lisp19:50
derekv=P19:50
derekvyou don't need to know it well though, but either clojure or scheme are probably the most likely to pop up on a slide, javascript, python, haskell or scala may appear as well19:51
derekvnow watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TihhFQjtiZU&list=UU_QIfHvN9auy2CoOdSfMWDw&hd=119:54
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/2U1Knz - "The challenges and benefits of a functional reactive frontend" by Ian Davis - YouTube19:54
derekvreact keeps a virtual copy of the entire DOM, modifies that, then diffs it with the real dom, writing the changes20:05
derekvwhich ends up being faster than writing directly to the DOM.  =o20:05
rick_h_yea, react is cool. I want to get that into a work project20:15
derekvi'm wondering about creating a custom reactive library for android20:22
derekvthe first thing i really want most on android (that would also make using/building an FRP libarary easier) is an observalbe persistent datastore20:22
derekvobservable?20:23
derekvnot sure how to do this, maybe i could start by looking at core-data (iOS)20:23
derekvi think core-data is a subset of a proper relational database (that is implemented with sqlite), but has observability20:23
rick_h_ouch, just had someone ping about having their bookie account removed. :(20:38
rick_h_guess it's bound to happen20:38
derekvdid you purge?20:39
derekvor you mean the change of url20:40
rick_h_yea, purged out an account21:04
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