[11:25] <brousch_> Installed a Unity Ubuntu for my son on his chromebook. He can't figure out how to close anything because of the damned hidden menus
[11:26] <brousch_> "Click the X" "There is no X" "On the left side" "There is no X" "Go to the upper left corner of the screen and an X will appear" "Oh!"
[11:33] <tony-smlr> SMLR Live E135 going Live soon - Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4twXJhXZaf4 - Audio: http://live.smlr.us:8000/streaming
[11:33] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/ISqaI2 - SMLR Live Episode 135 - YouTube
[11:53] <rick_h_> brousch_: teach him keyboard shortcuts like a real techie! ctrl-w
[11:59] <brousch_> How does that even work on a touch interface?
[13:02] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/r4DLeN - application/ogg
[13:41] <rick_h_> brousch_: the menus? I think that's why they've got the flag to always show them?
[14:26] <cmaloney> Good morning
[14:27] <cmaloney> It's Touch. You never close anything
[14:27] <cmaloney> You just let the OS crash and close things automatically.
[14:27] <cmaloney> That's the way of the tablet.
[15:01] <brousch_> I mean how do you even access the hidden menu with a touch interface. There's no hover
[15:40] <rick_h_> brousch_: right and I say in a touch env you turn on permanent attached menus
[15:40] <rick_h_> brousch_: there's an option for just that
[15:41] <rick_h_> brousch_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/10481/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-the-global-application-menu see the 13pt answer for 14.04
[15:41] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/Aqcl8Q - unity - How do I enable or disable the global application menu? - Ask Ubuntu
[17:37] <cmaloney> Probably not a good sign when the coffee shop closes before the coupons for it expire
[17:37] <cmaloney> Bean and Tea
[17:44] <brousch_> doh
[17:44] <brousch_> I have how good it feels to use an Apple computer. Too well built
[17:44] <brousch_> hate
[17:59] <rick_h_> huh?
[18:01] <cmaloney> Apparnently he has touched an Apple product and found the Android stuff wanting
[18:02] <cmaloney> Which means next time we see him we'll konk him on the head and drown him in the lake
[18:02] <rick_h_> heh
[18:06] <rick_h_> everyone partying on sunday?
[18:07] <cmaloney> In thieory
[18:48] <brousch_> No, the old Apple laptop
[18:49] <brousch_> My wife uses it and I'm updating it for her
[18:50] <brousch_> Such a perfect touchpad
[18:51] <rick_h_> because touchpads are evil
[19:20] <derekv> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_QIfHvN9auy2CoOdSfMWDw/videos  =D
[19:20] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/VfytpT - Strange Loop - YouTube
[19:21] <rick_h_> <3 derekv
[19:27] <derekv> yea FRP is really big this year. also, advanced type systems.  everything else normal for strangeloop: distributed databases continues to be big, more lisp, logic programming, etc.  a bit more haskell then before, maybe.
[19:27] <derekv> brb
[19:31] <derekv>  fueled my interest in typing systems
[19:37] <derekv> reenforced that i know basically nothing about distributed data stores
[19:42] <rick_h_> yea, that one and glucon are two on my list of conf to attend
[19:50] <derekv> come prepared to read lisp
[19:50] <derekv> =P
[19:51] <derekv> you don't need to know it well though, but either clojure or scheme are probably the most likely to pop up on a slide, javascript, python, haskell or scala may appear as well
[19:54] <derekv> now watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TihhFQjtiZU&list=UU_QIfHvN9auy2CoOdSfMWDw&hd=1
[19:54] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/2U1Knz - "The challenges and benefits of a functional reactive frontend" by Ian Davis - YouTube
[20:05] <derekv> react keeps a virtual copy of the entire DOM, modifies that, then diffs it with the real dom, writing the changes
[20:05] <derekv> which ends up being faster than writing directly to the DOM.  =o
[20:15] <rick_h_> yea, react is cool. I want to get that into a work project
[20:22] <derekv> i'm wondering about creating a custom reactive library for android
[20:22] <derekv> the first thing i really want most on android (that would also make using/building an FRP libarary easier) is an observalbe persistent datastore
[20:23] <derekv> observable?
[20:23] <derekv> not sure how to do this, maybe i could start by looking at core-data (iOS)
[20:23] <derekv> i think core-data is a subset of a proper relational database (that is implemented with sqlite), but has observability
[20:38] <rick_h_> ouch, just had someone ping about having their bookie account removed. :(
[20:38] <rick_h_> guess it's bound to happen
[20:39] <derekv> did you purge?
[20:40] <derekv> or you mean the change of url
[21:04] <rick_h_> yea, purged out an account