[00:02] <DarkmasterT> i need help with a Broadcom BCM4401, computer can see it but no matter what i've tried it is still unclaimed
[00:02] <DarkmasterT> i've tried several solutions from the forum for that same ethernet but none worked
[00:02] <bluesnow> Hi, how can I execute a program from the terminal with just "executable_name" instead of having to type "./executable_name"?
[00:02] <reisio> bluesnow: put it into /usr/local/bin/
[00:03] <reisio> bluesnow: or make a shell alias (help alias)
[00:03] <bluesnow> ok, thanks
[00:03] <reisio> or ${million_other_things}
[00:03] <Dyrcona> persisto: My guess is that's not a current feature of the lock screen and it would require some code to be written.
[00:03] <TTN> darkmasterT, I'd google the heck out of it. its pretty specific, with too many details for me to look into atm..
[00:04] <DarkmasterT> i googled it so much my internet history is full of ubuntu forums and other sites, all say the same thing
[00:06] <persisto> Thanks for your help guys
[00:06] <DarkmasterT> purge the bcmwl, install some linux-firmware, modprobe this and that, and then the thread is marked SOLVED, but some reason solution that worked for others isnt working for me
[00:08] <DarkmasterT> it was a fresh install before that and since i did so many things i reinstalled to get rid of all the changes
[00:12] <hui> hello
[00:12] <hui> when two socket communicate,then one shut down,the other socket will be always readable and get 0 bytes,,is that correct?.
[00:13] <reisio> hui: #friendly-coders
[00:14] <hui> linux c
[00:15] <hui> I am learning and reading the advanced programming in the unix environment
[00:16] <reisio> hui: then #friendly-coders is a more appropriate spot for you :)
[00:16] <hui> what is friendly-coders
[00:16] <TTN> lol i thought you had in mind "eh lets do a hashtag"
[00:16] <reisio> a channel
[00:16] <reisio> for coders
[00:16] <reisio> who are friendly
[00:16] <TTN> hui, he means join the channel
[00:17] <reisio> as opposed to ##C, where you will learn to regret having been born
[00:17] <hui> ok i know..
[00:17] <fswe> hello
[00:17] <reisio> hi
[00:18] <fswe> I've been following this guide to get postfix installed and right up until it says to verify using telnet, i'm not seeing the line that says AUTH: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[00:19] <fswe> I've repeated the guide several times but I can't see where I'm going wrong. Can someone point me in the right direction please?
[00:19] <hichris123> Hmm, anyone have any idea why running https://gist.github.com/hichris1234/ab6221e299e2daf8fb7c as root works, but as my user spits out errors like "Sigaction failed at number 65 (Operation not permitted)"?
[00:25] <dave__> hello
[00:26] <HelloMello> dave__: hello yegenim
[00:26] <HelloMello> dave__: eskiden buralar acayip memeli kaynardi simdi kimse yok
[00:26] <Ranieri_> Okay. Why do files save twice, one with a ~ and one without?? PLEASE HELP
[00:26] <Ranieri_> Ubuntu 14.04
[00:27] <HelloMello> Ranieri_: what in problem bebiskom
[00:27] <mbeierl> hichris123: um...  there is no sig handle for 65?  I see it going up to 64 as max:  kill -l
[00:27] <Ranieri_> HelloMello: ?
[00:27] <HelloMello> is la is in ne
[00:28] <mbeierl> Ranieri_: files such as gedit will save a backup (the prior version to the current) as file~
[00:28] <HelloMello> Ranieri_: problem ?
[00:29] <mbeierl> I mean programs such as gedit.
[00:29] <Freeaqingme> Hi folks; I'd like to do some policy based routing on Debian (two NICs, each with their own route table). Is there any config file to specify that in, or should I just use rc.local?.
[00:30] <mbeierl> Freeaqingme: in Ubuntu there is /etc/ufw for that.  Maybe check in #debian for Debian specifics?
[00:30] <Ranieri_> mbeierl: Ahh, that makes a lot of sense.
[00:31] <Freeaqingme> mbeierl, oh, oops. I actually am on Ubuntu. Will look into that ufw thingie. tnx
[00:31] <mbeierl> Ranieri_: so if you do a "diff file file~" you should see the result of your last edit/save cycle
[00:31] <mbeierl> Freeaqingme: ah.  /etc/ufw is a directory
[00:31] <Ranieri_> Freeaqingme: Too complicated for me, please explain: policy based routing, route table, and rc.local
[00:32] <Ranieri_> mbeierl: I'll check that out right now.
[00:32] <mbeierl> Freeaqingme: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW for some starters on setting up things
[00:33] <mbeierl> Freeaqingme: but basically, you can put your iptables commands there - if that is what you were going for...
[00:33] <Freeaqingme> mbeierl, I'm actually looking for the first time at ufw. Is it possible to use ufw while using hte plain old iptables-persistent stuff?
[00:35] <mbeierl> Freeaqingme: Take a look at /etc/ufw/before.rules. IIRC, I think that takes a format of iptables-save style syntax
[00:35] <Freeaqingme> hmz, dont look like it. well, I'll figure something out. tnx
[00:37] <mbeierl> Freeaqingme: what sort of iptables syntax were you using?
[00:37] <mbeierl> I mean you can do iptables-restore < file in rc.local...
[00:38] <Freeaqingme> mbeierl, absolutely. I'll just have to play with some things for a bit
[00:39] <Freeaqingme> I may also opt to use NFT
[00:41] <Ranieri_> I have a bug I want to report with Ubuntu 14.04 Trusty Tahr.
[00:42] <Freeaqingme> Ranieri_, I'd suggest you do that in the bug tracker
[00:42] <mbeierl> nft?
[00:42] <Freeaqingme> mbeierl, http://netfilter.org/projects/nftables/
[00:42] <Ranieri_> Freeaqingme: Give me the URL to the bug tracker please.
[00:42] <Freeaqingme> it's in the kernel as of 3.13 iirc
[00:42] <Freeaqingme> Ranieri_, https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=ubuntu+bug+tracker
[00:42] <Freeaqingme> first result
[00:43] <Ranieri_> Freeaqingme: Thanks :D
[00:43] <L8-0151> Hello
[00:44] <reisio> 'lo L8-0151
[00:44] <L8-0151> i have the latest ubuntu iso, how do i burn a bootabale disc? i currently have backtrack 5 installed.
[00:44] <gdi2k_> any libvirt wizards here? I need to clone a guest, but it has a partition attached to it, and I don't want to clone that. I want to clone the desk but ignore the attached partition. Can I do that?
[00:45] <VBguy> hello
[00:45] <gdi2k_> *desk = guest
[00:45] <mbeierl> ah netfilter.  gotcha
[00:45] <VBguy> looking for the proper place to ask about grub issue after upgrade from 14.04.1 to 14.04.4
[00:46] <Freeaqingme> mbeierl, iptables is also netfilter, sot hat doesnt mean much. But they gave everything a huge revamp, also on kernel level. If you use the iptables command on >=3.13 it's merely a legacy interface that bridges to nft
[00:47] <Bashing-om> L8-0151: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto .
[00:47] <mbeierl> gdi2k_: is the partition "attached" as in a separate disk file, or you mean you want to copy the contents of (say) partition 1 from a disk file, but not partition 2 in the same file?
[00:49] <gdi2k_> mbeierl, it is actually literally a partition on the host system, which is separate from the root disk file of the guest. the attached partition is actually /home on the guest system
[00:49] <mbeierl> gdi2k_: so how is that referenced in the guest?  If you remove the reference (/etc/fstab, etc) and just clone the base disk, does that work?
[00:50] <gdi2k_> mbeierl, it is referenced in the xml file of the guest, and also in fstab of course. I am thinking I could remove the reference from the xml file, clone the disk, then add it back. Would that work>?
[00:50] <hichris123> Hmm, looks like you need certain privileges in order to use sigaction?
[00:51] <hichris123> It works as root but not as my own user.
[00:53] <mbeierl> gdi2k_: yes it should.  You can also (iirc) copy the disk and then create a new vm descriptor (xml file) for just that new disk.
[00:53] <mbeierl> if for some reason removing the disk ref from the xml doesn't work (which I can't imagine that it would not)
[00:54]  * mbeierl has been using OpenStack over top of KVM/libvirt for a little too long to remember the basics
[00:55] <gdi2k_> mbeierl, thanks, will give it a shot
[00:57] <ubuntunoobneedhe> Greetings. I am struggling to run ubuntu from a bootable usb on a mac. Is this a good place to ask for help?
[00:57] <reisio> ubuntunoobneedhe: yup
[00:57] <VBguy> sorry lost connection.
[00:58] <VBguy> i am looking for help on fixing my grub since i updated from ubuntu 14.04.1 lts to 14.04.4 lts
[00:58] <reisio> VBguy: yes?
[00:58] <Freeaqingme> VBguy, just ask. perhaps someone can help you ;)
[00:58] <mbeierl> gdi2k_: np.  enjoy :)
[00:59] <ubuntunoobneedhe> Thanks, so where should I start? I've follow this step by step guide from ubuntu (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx). When I restart in in boot, and click the usb (it reads Windows), a black screen pops up that reads "No Bootable Device Found - Insert Boot disc and press any key".
[00:59] <VBguy> reisio: I upgraded and I lost my grub and cannot get boot repair to fix the issue and it is above my knowledge level
[01:00] <reisio> what makes you think you lost grub
[01:00] <samthewildone> what's the best compression archive for media files ?
[01:00] <reisio> samthewildone: moving target
[01:00] <VBguy> reisio I attempted to use boot repair, but that did not work
[01:00] <samthewildone> I've got about 2GBs of media.
[01:01] <reisio> samthewildone: how small do you need it?
[01:01] <mbeierl> samthewildone: define best?  How much quality are you willing to lose?
[01:01] <samthewildone> small enough to store on a cloud.
[01:01] <SchrodingersScat> samthewildone: https://code.google.com/p/zopfli/ 5% better they say
[01:01] <reisio> samthewildone: there's no size requirement for that
[01:01] <ubuntunoobneedhe> In configuring my USB in Disk Utility, should I partition it as a "GUID Partition Table" or "Master Boot Record". As well, what format should the USB be in? "MS-DOS(FAT)" , "Mac OS Extended" , "ExFAT"?
[01:01] <samthewildone> reisio, I have a limit of cloud storage.
[01:01] <samthewildone> reisio, trying to maximize every input I get.
[01:02] <mbeierl> samthewildone: you do realize that media files (video and audio) are already compressed, correct?
[01:02] <samthewildone> mbeierl, I'm willing to lose err about 15 - 25% video quality,
[01:02] <samthewildone> mbeierl, I want to put these files into a archive.
[01:02] <reisio> samthewildone: is it all video?
[01:02] <VBguy> reisio here is the url that boot repair created http://paste.ubuntu.com/8391792/
[01:03] <samthewildone> reisio, a collection of videos.
[01:03] <reisio> VBguy: what makes you think you lost grub?
[01:03] <mbeierl> samthewildone: then you need to determine what video compression was used and re-encode in either the same one with a lower framerate or quality, or find a better compression for the type of video in the file
[01:03] <samthewildone> reisio, some ranging from 15mb - 150mb.
[01:03] <reisio> samthewildone: I wouldn't bother, transcoding can take forever
[01:03] <reisio> if you need more hosting space, google drive starts at 15GB IIRC
[01:03] <mbeierl> samthewildone: see, gzip and the like cannot compress video as it is already in its most dense form.
[01:04] <samthewildone> reisio, Im using G
[01:04] <VBguy> reisio: I don't thik I lost it, I think that it did not install correctly during the upgrade.  I have all the boot files on sdb
[01:04] <reisio> samthewildone: G?
[01:04] <samthewildone> Google = G
[01:04] <mbeierl> reisio: I agree, but without transcoding there is no way to shrink the file size below its current, no?
[01:04] <reisio> VBguy: I can tell you think that, but I want to know _why_ you think that
[01:05] <reisio> mbeierl: sure there is
[01:05] <reisio> but you probably lose quality
[01:05] <reisio> oh without
[01:05] <reisio> not of any significance, indeed, no
[01:05] <mbeierl> reisio: ok, then we are saying the same thing: either waste time transcoding, or get more storage...
[01:06] <reisio> mbeierl: sounds like we are indeed
[01:06] <VBguy> reisio I only think that because I am not the most knowledgeable in Ubuntu.  Every time I try to start the computer I get grub rescue prompt.
[01:06] <BluesKaj> or use vlc and play anything
[01:06] <reisio> if that's what you said :p
[01:07] <reisio> VBguy: okay, it might be easiest to fix it from a live OS
[01:08] <VBguy> reisio, i am currently using the boot repair live disk as we speak
[01:09] <BluesKaj> Boot repair usually works
[01:09] <VBguy> boot repair tries to put it on sda and not sdb
[01:10] <reisio> I'm not sure why boot repair would work if the other software the devs had run also failed :p
[01:10] <reisio> s/also //
[01:12] <linelevel> Hi, where can I find the script that runs when I run `sudo service <service_name> restart`? I'd like to read it to see exactly what's happening.
[01:13] <linelevel> The docs for the service in question mention sending arguments with the TERM signal, and I need to know what those arguments are when I issue a `service ... restart`.
[01:16] <ceibal> pormo
[01:17] <VBguy> So my question then is how do i properly fix my grub or boot?
[01:20] <bubbasaures> VBguy, I would download supergrub a tiny booter boot to ubuntu and run commands from there. http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/  couple other ways a chroot is one.
[01:23] <VBguy> i will try that.  i have set up my mobile irc to be in here so i can continue with you guys if i have trouble.
[01:32] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: We can try and boot sdb3 from the grub prompt ... what have you got installed onto sdb1 ?
[01:33] <VBguy_mobile> I set up sdb the way that Ubuntu install files suggested
[01:34] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: But, what is installed ontp sdb1 ?? as 14.04 is installed on sdb3 .
[01:35] <ramsudharsan> Is this Ubuntu Development Forum?
[01:35] <ramsudharsan> I need some answers
[01:35] <Bashing-om> ramsudharsan: Try #ubuntu+1 .
[01:35] <reisio> #ubuntu-devel
[01:35] <ramsudharsan> K
[01:35] <ramsudharsan> Thanks
[01:36] <VBguy_mobile> 14.04.01
[01:36] <reisio> /msg alis list *ubunt*dev*
[01:36] <VBguy_mobile> And i upgraded to  14.04.4 and got the grub issue
[01:37] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: IF we can boot sdb3 we can fix grub ,, but .. what is installed onto sdb1, so we know what we are working with and toward ??
[01:38] <VBguy_mobile> Let me get back over there, went to working computer to get the other file suggested
[01:39] <ramsudharsan> No one responds there
[01:39] <VBguy_mobile> Booting up Ubuntu live cd
[01:40] <coffeeguy2> dual boot with ubuntu and windows 8.1 a good idea?
[01:40] <cfhowlett> coffeeguy2, no reason no to
[01:40] <reisio> coffeeguy2: it's an idea
[01:41] <coffeeguy2> i'd like to use linux straight and only, but my usb and ip security cameras are an issue
[01:41] <reisio> they are?
[01:41] <coffeeguy2> i thought so
[01:41] <coffeeguy2> that and the grub error i get when i dual boot
[01:41] <reisio> I'd think not
[01:41] <reisio> grub errors are usually easy to fix
[01:42] <coffeeguy2> i've got an install i really don't wanna lose, it's windows but it's all i've got for everything
[01:42] <reisio> no particular reason you'd lose it
[01:44] <coffeeguy2> hmm, i could use windows backup and do a bit more reading and give it a try
[01:44] <VBguy_mobile> Bashing-om i have the live cd booted up. Going to Chech sdb files
[01:45]  * OerHeks wonders how you upgrade from 14.04.1 to 14.04.4
[01:46] <VBguy_mobile> I thought that was my jump
[01:48] <Freeaqingme> Is there any way to disable the check and 60 second delay if networking  has been set up correctly?
[01:48] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, one doesn't just upgrade to 14.04.4 as the current point release is 14.04.1
[01:48] <Freeaqingme> the delay that's performed on boot
[01:50] <Freeaqingme> nvm. /etc/init/failsafe.conf it is
[01:51] <ibni> hi
[01:52] <samthewildone> For some reason I'm not able to format my USB. Its in msdos filesystem.
[01:52] <samthewildone> I try to use GParted.
[01:53] <reisio> samthewildone: how'd you like it to be?
[01:53] <VBguy_mobile> I am looking at my  1GB grub file system that i assume is sdb3
[01:53] <samthewildone> Nice and tight...
[01:53] <VBguy_mobile> I mean  sdb1
[01:53] <samthewildone> err I mean, able to FAT32
[01:54] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: Now I am confused... lemme go back and relook at you boot-repair report.
[01:55] <VBguy_mobile> In the mean time i will Reget boot repair
[01:55] <samthewildone> reisio, when I try to make a startup disk out of it, I get this error > http://pastebin.com/ZLaQeXUz
[01:56] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: Nope "3      5120MB  20.5GB  15.4GB  primary  ext4            boot" I expext that 14.04 complete is installed to 'sdb3' .
[01:57] <VBguy_mobile> I currently opened  the grub.cfg file to look at it
[01:59] <VBguy_mobile> Closed it as i did not notice anything.  So how can i get it to go to sdb3?
[02:02] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: Seeing as how you are booted to the liveDVD, let's see if we can (RE-)install grub. -> sudo mount /dev/sdb3 /mnt , sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb , sudo umount /mnt . Reboot at this time and see if you now boot into the install with bios set to boot the 2nd hard drive.
[02:02] <estudiante> hla
[02:03] <estudiante> alguna nena
[02:03] <cfhowlett> !es | estudiante
[02:04] <ramsudharsan> There is no active development group in IRC :/
[02:05] <postmodern> i installed steam on ubuntu 14.04 and attempted to run "steam" but it segfaults almost immediately
[02:05] <cfhowlett> ramsudharsan, there are more communication methods than irc
[02:06] <ramsudharsan> @cfhowlett I agree
[02:06] <VBguy_mobile> Gnu grub version  1.99-21 appears
[02:07] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: Not at all as expected,, what is the version of the liveDVD you have ??
[02:08] <VBguy_mobile> 12.3 i think
[02:08] <Gnomethrower> ickserv identify a3therb0x1
[02:08] <Gnomethrower> oh crap
[02:08] <reisio> Gnomethrower: I see you want to be reported to #freenode
[02:08] <Gnomethrower> reisio: ???
[02:08] <Pici> eh?
[02:08] <reisio> so I'll accommodate you
[02:09] <Gnomethrower> reisio: what do you mean?
[02:09] <cfhowlett> Gnomethrower, the format is /msg nickserv identify password
[02:09] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: Well, should be close 'nuff to work .. OK, when you booted the install, do you boot to the desktop, or still to a grub rescue prompt ?
[02:09] <Gnomethrower> cfhowlett: yeah, it was a joke
[02:10] <ramsudharsan> Everyone know his pass :P
[02:10] <Gnomethrower> one that reisio is apparently taking very seriously
[02:10] <cfhowlett> Gnomethrower, perhaps less humor/comedy and more ubuntu support - you know?   the channel topic ...
[02:10] <reisio> spam is not a joke
[02:11] <Gnomethrower> as I said, calling it spam is a little excessive.
[02:12] <Pici> Lets get back to support then.
[02:12] <Gnomethrower> ^
[02:12] <ramsudharsan> Anyone know about kernel development here? If yes, perhaps I will discuss about my weird question ere
[02:12] <VBguy_mobile> It boots to  grub command line
[02:13] <Gnomethrower> ramsudharsan: don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[02:14] <reisio> #kernel
[02:14] <Gnomethrower> ^ and that's also a good resource, yup.
[02:15] <ramsudharsan> K I will try to see whether I get some support there
[02:15] <ramsudharsan> Orelse I will ask my question here
[02:15] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: Yuk; At that grub command line: linux (hd1,msdos3)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb3 ro , initrd (hd1,msdos3)/initrd.img , boot .
[02:17] <cfhowlett> !kernel | ramsudharsan,
[02:19] <VBguy_mobile> Bashing-om i get  hd1 cake hey  C/H/S values
[02:20] <VBguy_mobile> I type ls and i do not see  hd1
[02:20] <VBguy_mobile> I did disable sda in the bios
[02:20] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: What is set for botting device in your bios ?
[02:21] <Bashing-om> booting*
[02:21] <gndlp> hey anyone here good with hardware? I need some advice on my linux workstations.
[02:21] <Pici> try ##hardware
[02:22] <gndlp> Pici: thanks buddy
[02:23] <VBguy_mobile> I reenabled sda and i get the grub rescue  command line
[02:24] <DaiZyuJin> is this a good way to ask a girl out? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5LFD9VDq88
[02:26] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: We are not working to boot sda, we are trying to boot the operating system that is installed onto the 2nd hard drive 'sdb'. Set in bios to boot that 2nd hard drive, so bios can hand off to the boot code that is located in the MBR of that 2nd hard drive, so it can boot the operating system. Clear as mud ?
[02:27] <VBguy_mobile> Bashing-om. That i totally do understand what you are saying.   Just trying to get the bios to cooperate
[02:30] <VBguy_mobile> Bashing-om for some reason my bios will  not let me choose Bettendorf my two  SATA drives
[02:31] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: I do not know what I can say .. I have no idea how to tell you, as EVERY bios is different. But for sure, you must find a way to tell bios you want to boot up that 2nd hard drive,
[02:33] <VBguy_mobile> I am trying to figure that part out, but if i disable  sda maybe we can get it to boot
[02:34] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: In my Phoenix bios, I must 1st enable the means to switch hard drives ( I have 3 ) . Off the top of my head I do not recall the specifics.
[02:39] <VBguy_mobile> Bashing-om trying to go back into live cd to see if there is a boot tag on sda
[02:40] <VBguy_mobile> But every thing had been working fine until the upgrade  :(
[02:44] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: What is on the liveDVD has absolutely nothing to do with bios. In bios you set where bios is to look for the boot code. In our case that is the 0th sector (MBR)- because that is where and is proper we installed that boot code -  of the 2nd hard drive (sdb). There is a means in your bios to unlock the choosing of the booting hard drive.
[02:47] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: All I can surnmise is in the upgrade process grub did not get installed to 'sdb' maybe defaulted to 'sda'. I do not know as I was not there. All we can do now is try and fix it.
[02:48] <triplc> hi all
[02:49] <triplc> how to get rid of 15 seconds of "scanning btrfs filesystem..." at boot of 14.04? when i was using 12.04 --i also had btrfs as root-- but there was not that 15 second scanning
[02:49] <triplc> i google but cannot find the answer
[02:50] <VBguy_mobile> Bashing-om i an an moron.  I kept  enter setup not bios
[02:51] <triplc> i believe that losing 15 second of boot time is very not neccessary
[02:51] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: It is all a process of learning. I too have a long way to go.
[02:51] <triplc> especially when i am using laptop in 14.04 install on SSD
[02:52] <VBguy_mobile> Bashing-om i thought set up looked odd as it was only giving me basic options.  Now to figure out how to get the system  bios
[02:58] <horriblecoders> i
[02:58] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: When you boot, at the bios splash screen should be an advisory of which key to deperess to enter the bios utility.
[02:59] <VBguy_mobile> Bashing-om i guess dell calls the bios  system setup.
[03:00] <VBguy_mobile> Bashing-om now trying to figure out how to select specific hard drive instead of the order it wants
[03:00] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: I could buy that. that is reasonale to "assume" .
[03:02] <samthewildone> I noticed there is a tmp protected file in my users' folder.
[03:03] <samthewildone> I don't know how it got there but, whats the deal with it ? Its a root folder
[03:04] <samthewildone> > http://pastebin.com/YXrK7mKg
[03:05] <samthewildone> nevermind I know what it was.
[03:05] <Guest78158> Hey I need some help
[03:06] <Guest78158> Slappy
[03:06] <Guest78158> Crap
[03:06] <Guest78158> Well I guess I cant change my nick for some reason
[03:06] <Guest78158> anyway here is my issue
[03:08] <Guest78158> I am running Ubuntu ultimate edition gamers 2.6 which is built on ubuntu 10.04 right? So I am trying to install skype 4.3, however for some reason apt-get only installs 4.0 & the software center only installs 4.2
[03:09] <triplc> Guest78158: 10.04 is too old i think
[03:09] <Guest78158> now I have tried the other package installers, but they keep insisting that I have the wrong architecture i386, so I tried running sudo dpkg --add architecture i386 & got bubkis
[03:10] <Bashing-om> Guest78158: Release 10.04 is End-Of_Life for the destop in ubuntu, and had no support.
[03:10] <Guest78158> well for some reason the damn terminal doesn't even understand the command to add the freaking architecture
[03:11] <Guest78158> Ok, but I think if I could get the system to process i386 architecture, MAYBE i can get it to work, so any idea how to do that?
[03:11] <Bashing-om> Guest78158: Yep, the software repository no longer exists as you may have known it. Upgrade to a current release.
[03:12] <OerHeks> only server 10.04 is supported, don't wast your time on that old gamers edition
[03:12] <Guest78158> Im reluctant to upgrade this one because in all honesty, it's been one of the very few distros that have NOT been problematic for me
[03:13] <OerHeks> it is problematic now
[03:14] <Guest78158> damn
[03:15] <Guest78158> That sucks because standard ubuntu always seems to get problematic on me. Then again, I probably need a new desktop anyway
[03:15] <Guest78158> I guess it's back to mint 14 for me
[03:15] <Guest78158> ok thanks
[03:17] <VBguy_mobile> Bashing-om i attempted using your grub command line with  sata0 dissabled and changed the number based on using ls, however i get  file not found
[03:18] <VBguy_mobile> Bashing-om is the a space before and after both  ,
[03:18] <samthewildone> quick---, where is my icons directory ?
[03:18] <samthewildone> errr... I mean quick, in general terms
[03:19] <owen1> i have an app with this line in it's config file: connect = host=/var/run/postgresql. i assume it's the binary of postgresql. is this the path to the binary: /usr/lib/postgresql/9.3/bin/postgres ?
[03:21] <dave__> locate *.desktop
[03:21] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: The ',' is but a seperator jere between commands. So yes, there is no space at all . 3 seperate commands.
[03:22] <VBguy_mobile>  Doh
[03:22] <Bashing-om> here*
[03:24] <VBguy_mobile> Bashing-om so the command line fails on the first one then for myself.   File not found
[03:25] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: IF you take a look at your boot-repair report, you will see that the system wants to boot sdb1, another install of 14.04, but I see little to support booting sdb1. It appears that booting is from sdb3 and the boot code did not update to reflect sdb3. When you get bios to boot that 2nd hard drive we can invesigate further.
[03:25] <Steve_Jobs> how do i config eth0 to use dhcp
[03:25] <Steve_Jobs> ?
[03:26] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: OK, file not found. do command 'set' what returns in the line "root=" and "prefix=" ??
[03:27] <VBguy_mobile> I just set it to  hd0,msdos3
[03:27] <VBguy_mobile> I set root that is
[03:28] <VBguy_mobile> Prefix is note  (hdo,msdos3)/grub
[03:28] <VBguy_mobile> Now*
[03:28] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: Good if you used the proper syntax to do so. relate to me the command you used to set root .
[03:29] <cmanns> are there any tools to get GCC prior then 4.4 on ubuntu with apt-get?
[03:29] <cmanns> methods/tools/ways
[03:29] <VBguy_mobile> Bashing-om  i used  set root=(hdo,msdos3)
[03:30] <OerHeks> hdo or hd0 ?
[03:30] <VBguy_mobile> Hd0
[03:30] <VBguy_mobile> Sorry for confusion.
[03:32] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: Good let's see if you can boot ! 3 commands -> linux (hd1,msdos3)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb3 ro , initrd (hd1,msdos3)/initrd.img , boot . Let's see what happens .
[03:33] <banchak> #thai
[03:33] <banchak> #ubuntu/thai
[03:34] <banchak> -*-
[03:34] <cfhowlett> !thailand
[03:34] <cfhowlett> !thai
[03:34] <banchak> thank you
[03:34] <cfhowlett> !th
[03:34] <banchak> !thai
[03:35] <banchak> #ubuntu-th
[03:35] <VBguy_mobile> I still get file not found  :(
[03:37] <VBguy_mobile> Vmlinuz cannot be found for some reason
[03:41] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: well !, what returns in that grub prompt -> ls -al (hd0,msdos3)/boot/grub ?
[03:42] <VBguy_mobile> File not found
[03:42] <VBguy_mobile> I go up one  directory  and get  two DIR ./ and. ./
[03:44] <VBguy_mobile> Bashing-om i an going to go in the shower  be back around in 20 or so
[03:46] <VBguy_mobile> Sorry the  DIR are  20140423224003 and  20140921020453
[03:47] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: I do not know that grub is that sophicticated. do in that grub prompt -> set ptrfix=(hd1,msdos3)/boot/grub , set root=(hd1,msdos3) , insmod normal , and the other three commands to boot from the 2nd haed drive, hd1. NOT the 1st hard drive ,hd0 . OK ?
[03:49] <VBguy_mobile> Bashing-om i have one sata dissabled in the bios so i don't think the grub  sees it
[03:50] <VBguy_mobile> But will do as you typed
[03:51] <joey_conrad> I'm looking to do a minimal install on a machine with no CD drive (usb or sd card are options). I have a Lubuntu USB stick ready, and the mini ISO downloaded. Is there a way to easily do a minimal install with that, if not do the mini.iso on USB instructions for 13.03 given work with e.g. 14.04?
[03:52] <joey_conrad> I tried dding it to the USB stick before, but the results seem unbootable
[03:52] <VBguy_mobile> Bashing-om at the  linux (hd1 command line i get  hd1 cannot get  C/h/s values
[03:52] <Bashing-om> VBguy_mobile: Sheeeshhh,, ok, boot the liveDVD and ->sudo fdisk-lu | pastebinit <- let's see ehat we are working with. I am to the point that I am tired and not thinking to clearly, we may have to continue this at a later time.
[03:54] <xar-> any vim ninjas in here, trying to add a color scheme, doesn't work
[03:54] <xar-> i've loaded the colorscheme into .vimrc; also created a corresponding entry in /home/user/.vim/colors/ ; doesn't seem to work.
[03:56] <rurkowce> xar-: what did you put in vimrc?
[03:56] <xar-> /home/user/.vimrc
[03:56] <rurkowce> what!=where :v
[03:57] <xar-> ah, sorry, I put a single line: colorscheme theme
[03:57] <rurkowce> either that setting is wrong, or your vim thinks it doesn't support 256 colors, it's one of those themes
[03:57] <rurkowce> xar-: set colorscheme theme
[03:58] <rurkowce> no, i'm wrong ,_,
[03:58] <xar-> :(
[03:59] <xar-> yea I have no idea, back to almighty google
[03:59] <oglog> hello everyone
[03:59] <oglog> anyone used remastersys before?
[04:00] <cfhowlett> oglog, remastersys has been abandon ware for almost a year now
[04:00] <oglog> is there any alternative?
[04:00] <cfhowlett> !remastersys
[04:00] <cfhowlett> !info remastersys
[04:02] <oglog> anyone knows any alternatives to that, or something like suse studio
[04:03] <cfhowlett> oglog, wikipedia suggests "reconstructor"
[04:03] <Dan_in_SD> hello all
[04:04] <banchak_> #ubuntu-th
[04:04] <Dan_in_SD> anyone use amarok here
[04:04] <OerHeks> !info live-magic
[04:05] <BTJustice> I have a friend who is trying to install Ubuntu 14.10 on a laptop which has Windows 8.  It uses UEFI.  The Ubuntu Install goes fine until it hits installing grub2 which it fails at and the installer crashes.  Is there a way around this?
[04:05] <grobe0ba> BTJustice: need more specifics
[04:05] <grobe0ba> error messages
[04:05] <BTJustice> Hold on.
[04:06] <BTJustice> Installer crashed is the title of the window
[04:06] <BTJustice> It wants to do a bug report.
[04:06] <cfhowlett> BTJustice, you're helping your friend install a BETA ubuntu on his windows 8?  ... think on that ...
[04:06] <BTJustice> No specifics.
[04:07] <joey_conrad> so, no dice wrt my questions?
[04:07] <grobe0ba> BTJustice: the bug report should give you an option to see specifics
[04:07] <BTJustice> UEFI support should be the same if not better in 14.10.  It's actually Ubuntu MATE.
[04:07] <cfhowlett> !mini | joey_conrad
[04:08] <Dan_in_SD> i have a problem where if you adjust EQ settings it makes amarok crash.  it posted the --debug here   http://pastebin.com/JEkSji3w
[04:08] <Snake2k> Hey guys, I have a Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro with Windows 8. I booted up my Ubuntu 14.04LTS USB Stick, but it does not connect to any WiFi... How do I fix that?
[04:09] <cfhowlett> Snake2k, you haven't installed it, right?
[04:10] <joey_conrad> cfhowlett: sure, w/e
[04:11] <BTJustice> After bug report, he says it didn;t show any specific messages as to why grub2 failed.
[04:13] <grobe0ba> you should be able to tell it to send the bug report
[04:13] <grobe0ba> then view the bug report before sending
[04:13] <Snake2k> cfhowlett: Nope I haven't yet
[04:13] <grobe0ba> which will show you the specifics
[04:14] <cfhowlett> Snake2k, if wifi is not supported while on usb, it MIGHT be possible to enable it with command line.  if not, do a post-installation configuration
[04:21] <sasaem> BTJustice, have you considered recommending to your friend that he use a VM solution such as VirtualBox?
[04:21] <sasaem> It is at least as easy to install VirtualBox and then install Ubuntu on a virtual machine managed via VirtualBox, than it is to figure out how to get Ubuntu and Windows 8 to play nice together on the same physical machine.
[04:22] <sasaem> I am running Ubuntu on a virtual machine right now.  I use VirtualBox on Windows 8, and it's never given me any trouble with Ubuntu.
[04:24] <horriblecoders> VMs are great unless you need access to a real GPU.
[04:28] <oglog> I am the one who asked 5 min ago about alternative for remastersys, who suggested me something to check on wiki?
[04:31] <oglog> cfhowlett
[04:31] <VBguy_mobile> Bashing-om pastebin.com/jUAEbFV5
[04:32] <cfhowlett> oglog, wikipedia suggested the program "reconstructor"
[04:32] <oglog> thank you a lot
[04:32] <VBguy_mobile> Bashing-om i am all for trying tomorrow.  It is after midnight here.
[04:32] <cfhowlett> oglog, happy2help
[04:35] <VBguy_mobile> Bashing-om and i do sincerely appreciate the help
[04:41] <BTJustice> 'grub-install: warning: this GPT partition label contains no NIOS Boot Partition: embedding won't be possible.'
[04:41] <BTJustice> This is hte only error specific I can get from him easily.
[04:41] <BTJustice> *BIOS not NIOS
[04:48] <apok> hi people i downloaded one program, i want to isntall it, it was in a Zip, when i unpacked it it have usr,etc folder and a file called INSTALL but i dont know how to install this software can anyone help?
[04:49] <loadedanvils> hello
[04:49] <loadedanvils> how to set boot settings?
[04:50] <loadedanvils> I just installed another ssd in my laptop
[04:50] <loadedanvils> when ubuntu boots, how do I choose which drive to boot from?
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[04:52] <loadedanvils> hello
[04:52] <loadedanvils> question about grub
[04:52] <loadedanvils> will it alter only ssd running ubuntu
[04:54] <tortib> Does anyone know of a good site builder that's written in PHP?
[04:54] <asakapab0i> Wordpress nb4 offtopic.
[04:56] <loadedanvils> hey everybody, I have a question about dual booting from separate ssds
[04:57] <loadedanvils> how do I boot from another ssd while ubuntu is booting
[04:57] <rurkowce> loadedanvils: what.
[04:57] <loadedanvils> my other ssd doesn't seem to be accessible
[04:57] <loadedanvils> rurkowce: I have 2 ssd's in my laptop, but it's only booting one with ubuntu
[04:57] <loadedanvils> how do I choose which one boots when ubuntu is loading
[04:58] <loadedanvils> I think it involves installing grub but I'm nervous about overwriting file system
[04:58] <rurkowce> loadedanvils: does that other ssd already have a bootloader? :v
[04:58] <loadedanvils> it's windows, so no
[04:59] <rurkowce> loadedanvils: bootloader is a generic term for anything that resides in your master boot record, so yes, it does
[04:59] <loadedanvils> rurkowce: my mistake
[04:59] <loadedanvils> it is late and my nerves are frayed
[05:00] <loadedanvils> (reason is, I almost fucked up my laptop installing the ubuntu ssd)
[05:00] <loadedanvils> before, I booted from usb
[05:00] <rurkowce> i'd just hit f12 during laptop startup, or however your bios let's you choose which disk to boot from
[05:00] <loadedanvils> I think it's overwriting it
[05:00] <loadedanvils> but ok
[05:00] <loadedanvils> I'll give it another shot
[05:00] <rurkowce> what do you mean by overwriting? :v
[05:01] <loadedanvils> I tell it not to boot to ubuntu but it does anyway
[05:01] <loadedanvils> I want ubuntu to be default boot
[05:01] <loadedanvils> but windows also available if I select it
[05:02] <loadedanvils> will grub overwrite?
[05:02] <loadedanvils> windows boot partition?
[05:03] <rurkowce> you most likely have grub already, since you have ubuntu :v
[05:04] <loadedanvils> 14.04 grub not installed
[05:04] <rurkowce> but it shouldn't overwrite anything unless you tell it to, since windows is on a separate drive
[05:04] <loadedanvils> ok
[05:04] <rurkowce> loadedanvils: then maybe grub2 is? :3
[05:05] <loadedanvils> rurkowce: grub2 command isn't recognized
[05:05] <sasaem> loadedanvils, you might check whether there is a "grub" directory in /boot
[05:05] <loadedanvils> sasaem: well, I installed it
[05:06] <loadedanvils> so now there is
[05:06] <rurkowce> loadedanvils: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 this might make it a bit more clear
[05:06] <sasaem> loadedanvils, what is your goal again?
[05:06] <loadedanvils> ubuntu boots by default, but I want to choose which ssd to boot from
[05:06] <rurkowce> and what are you trying to achieve is called chainloading
[05:06] <loadedanvils> if I press some button
[05:07] <rurkowce> but it'd be easier to just set it in bios, and then select the non default one with that fastboot selection thingie most bioses have
[05:07] <rurkowce> loadedanvils: what laptop is it? :v
[05:07] <loadedanvils> rurkowce: it's a samsung
[05:08] <loadedanvils> and the bios only allows me to set boot order
[05:08] <sasaem> rurkowce, isn't "chain loading" the process of booting up from some partition on the same drive, not a different drive?
[05:08] <loadedanvils> Samsung NP700Z5B-S01UB
[05:08] <loadedanvils> to be specific
[05:09] <rurkowce> sasaem: as far as i know it just means passing to another bootloader
[05:09] <rurkowce> whether it's another partition, disk or iso file :v
[05:09] <oswaldo> hello spanis
[05:09] <sasaem> loadedanvils, do you have windows installed a separate hard drive?
[05:09] <sasaem> if so, perhaps this will help you: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/DOS_002fWindows.html#DOS_002fWindows
[05:09] <rurkowce> loadedanvils: isn't boot order enough? :v
[05:10] <loadedanvils> sasaem: yes
[05:10] <Poizon> helo
[05:10] <sasaem> you could also try simply altering the boot order, like rurkowce suggests
[05:10] <loadedanvils> rurkowce: it looks like it's ignoring the windows ssd
[05:10] <rurkowce> loadedanvils: it makes me wonder if it's actually bootable then :v
[05:10] <loadedanvils> plus, it would be easier to chainboot
[05:11] <sasaem> you would need to enter the BIOS configuration menu, the exact process for which depends on your hardware.  Usually you hold down some f-key during initial boot - the BIOS often tells you which one when you're booting up.
[05:11] <loadedanvils> sasaem: I have
[05:11] <sasaem> Are you able to specify an alternate boot order?
[05:11] <loadedanvils> sasaem: yes, but it overwrites
[05:11] <loadedanvils> I can't really choose which one to boot
[05:11] <sasaem> Can you elaborate on what you mean by that?
[05:12] <sasaem> "it overwrites"
[05:12] <loadedanvils> If I choose a boot order it will save
[05:12] <loadedanvils> and boot
[05:12] <loadedanvils> but then it will always boot that way
[05:12] <loadedanvils> it's a bit of a hassle
[05:12] <sasaem> Yes, that sounds about right.
[05:12] <loadedanvils> I'm going to boot ubuntu almost always
[05:12] <sasaem> But it works, yes?
[05:12] <sasaem> You can booth both OSes without problem?
[05:12] <loadedanvils> I think so, let me check
[05:15] <loadedanvils> yes I can
[05:15] <loadedanvils> so
[05:15] <loadedanvils> I can boot into both, the only problem is that it's a hassle to go in to the bios and unselect one boot
[05:15] <lubuntu-> Hi do i need gvfs?
[05:16] <loadedanvils> then go back and reselct it
[05:17] <Dr_Dan> anyone use amarok player.  i can consistently get it to crash when adjusting the EQ controls
[05:17] <Dr_Dan> i posted the --debug on pastebin
[05:17] <sasaem> loadedanvils, OK, that's good.  It means you have one way of switching OSes.
[05:17] <loadedanvils> yep
[05:18] <loadedanvils> I'd rather just choose whenever I need to
[05:18] <sasaem> loadedanvils, it seems to me that you might benefit from reading the following:
[05:18] <loadedanvils> can grub help with that?
[05:18] <sasaem> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Chain_002dloading.html#Chain_002dloading
[05:18] <sasaem> and also: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/DOS_002fWindows.html#DOS_002fWindows
[05:18] <sasaem> Try modifying your grub configuration (make a backup of course) to do that.
[05:18] <rurkowce> sasaem: i'm not sure if it isn't for grub, not grub2
[05:19] <fedora_newb> Been awhile since I have hopped on my ubuntu partition but seems to have the resolution/video resolution jacked up. How can I reset the video ?
[05:19] <rurkowce> if so, then he would hardly benefit from it :v
[05:19] <sasaem> oh.
[05:19] <sasaem> that is version 2
[05:19] <sasaem> so it should be ok
[05:19] <fedora_newb> Using irssi through command line right now
[05:20] <sasaem> full manual is here: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/index.html
[05:20] <loadedanvils> sasaem: I'm nervous about this, I don't have a spare disk to back up to
[05:20] <rurkowce> loadedanvils: it's just a text file, so in the worst case you could boot from an usb to fix it
[05:20] <sasaem> loadedanvils, the only alternative I can think of is: perhaps your BIOS has an option which you can select which only temporarily changes your BIOS settings?
[05:21] <loadedanvils> sasaem: I think I'll try it with grub
[05:21] <lubuntu-> Hi do i need gvfs?
[05:21] <loadedanvils> the way to choose to boot other one works, it's just tedious
[05:21] <sasaem> and yes, if your system fails to boot, it is possible, if you know what you're doing, to boot up a live OS from a USB stick or DVD or something, and then go in, mount the file system, and modify the grub configuration to restore its original state.
[05:22] <rurkowce> lubuntu-: it depends? :v
[05:23] <lubuntu-> rurkowce, what's the point of it?
[05:23] <fedora_newb> Anyone know of a command line web browser?
[05:23] <sasaem> fedora_newb, lynx for example.
[05:23] <boris> Question: does any one know how to make shortcuts on on ubuntu 14.04
[05:23] <fedora_newb> ty
[05:23] <rurkowce> lubuntu-: it's an abstraction layer for "network filesystems", such as smb, ftp, ssh
[05:24] <rurkowce> and i think it also handles pluggable storage, but i might be wrong :v
[05:25] <fedora_newb> Anyone know of a command to run to reset resolution
[05:26] <cmanns> Anybody know simple way to get older gcc's to build older software that doesnt like past 4.3 to build on newer ubuntu?
[05:26] <boris> I have used gedit to make the file.desktop  and i have a icon in the unity menu but will not execute
[05:26] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: xrandr -s 1024x768, or some other fancy resolution, if you're in graphical mode :v
[05:27] <nusr> hi i have unbuntu installed alongside xp (i needed it for some programs). i'm running out of space because of virtual machines on my linux partition. how can i reduce the size of the windows partition to make more room for ubuntu
[05:27] <fedora_newb> rurkowce, can I run that from the command line though
[05:27] <boris> Can anyone make shortcuts on ubuntu desktop that will work
[05:27] <cmanns> isnt that a topic for #windows nusr
[05:27] <cmanns> There is a utility in administrative tools that will let you shrink your windows partition imho
[05:27] <cmanns> in windows
[05:28] <nusr> cmanns: gparted? or the ubuntu
[05:28] <cmanns> id shrink via windows pretty sure xp has that capability built in
[05:28] <boris> i am not using windows
[05:28] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: if you mean tty, not really :v
[05:28] <nusr> it's not a windows operation. what i read was gparted in livecd to change the partition
[05:28] <nusr> i want to extend the ubuntu size
[05:28] <cmanns> you have more space to do so?
[05:28] <Dr_Dan> boris, do you mean a launcher icon for something ie a program
[05:28] <boris> yes
[05:29] <boris> yes dr_dan
[05:29] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: but most of the desktop environments provide something to input commands under alt+f2 ;3
[05:29] <Dr_Dan> try, internet search for..  exo-desktop-icon-edit
[05:29] <boris> i  have the icon or shortcut in the unity menu  but will not execute
[05:29] <boris> ok
[05:30] <fedora_newb> rurkowce alt+f2 didnt do nothing for me
[05:30] <nusr> i'm going to move the files from the windows partition to external hdd so that should free up the whole thing, but i'd like to keep that part so i can install windows 7 on it later. right now, does the ubuntu installation disk preserve my data on the existing linux partition when i install? each time i have reinstalled ubuntu it has deleted the existing data, but i have not tried manually partitioning
[05:30] <Dr_Dan> correction...  exo-desktop-item-edit
[05:31] <fedora_newb> rurkowce actually looks like resolution might be fine but the login dialog isn't showing
[05:31] <fedora_newb> think this partition has crapped out on me, ubuntu that is
[05:31] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: does anything show? :v
[05:31] <fedora_newb> rurkowce like the background does for the login screen but not the dialog
[05:32] <boris> ok
[05:32] <fedora_newb> rurkowce would be nice to get this running again though...really not digging windows 8
[05:33] <fedora_newb> Not really sure how to get to google on the lynx so I am kinda out of luck here
[05:34] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: g and it will ask you for an url :v
[05:34] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: try running startx in a terminal
[05:35] <fedora_newb> rurkowce black screen
[05:36] <fedora_newb> rurkowce modprobe error could not insert nvidia 340
[05:36] <rurkowce> that's a progress :v
[05:37] <fedora_newb> rurkowce now what? :)
[05:37] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: dmesg might have more information
[05:38] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: i'd suspect that you have installed nvidia drivers in some unofficial way, and now it doesn't really work with your kernel :v
[05:38] <fedora_newb> anyway to install the right driver from the command line?
[05:38] <fedora_newb> rurkowce ^
[05:38] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: do you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? :v
[05:38] <rurkowce> probably yes, but i don't use ubuntu :V
[05:40] <fedora_newb> rurkowce I see xorg.cong.failsafe
[05:40] <fedora_newb> Not xorg.conf
[05:40] <fedora_newb> xorg.conf.failsafe*
[05:40] <no1_> how to uninstall utorrent server?
[05:42] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: you could rename/copy it to xorg.conf
[05:42] <fedora_newb> rurkowce how do I rename?
[05:42] <fedora_newb> or copy too even
[05:42] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: cp xorg.conf.failsafe xorg.conf
[05:44] <rurkowce> and try startx
[05:44] <fedora_newb> rurkowce ok, what do I need to do now
[05:44] <fedora_newb> ah kk
[05:46] <fedora_newb> staying on loading extension glx for a bit here
[05:46] <fedora_newb> maybe I should try to restart?
[05:48] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: the only valid reason to restart is kernel update :v
[05:52] <fedora_newb> I can see the login dialog for ubuntu. However, once I click on the login, the login dialog disappears?
[05:52] <fedora_newb> The password field that is
[05:52] <rurkowce> wut
[05:53] <fedora_newb> rurkowce, resolution looks fine, however, once I click on the password field of the login dialog, the login dialog appears to just disappear
[05:55] <rurkowce> i understood that, but it's strange
[05:55] <fedora_newb> rurkowce makes me sad :/
[05:56] <rurkowce> maybe that failsafe isn't that failsafe
[05:56] <fedora_newb> lol
[05:56] <fedora_newb> maybe not
[05:57] <Seramon> hi all
[05:57] <Seramon> i'm getting invalid command when i tried to run a program in my terminal. what does it mean?
[05:58] <Seramon> sorry invalid operation
[05:58] <rurkowce> Seramon: maybe it's for a different architecture? :V
[05:58] <Seramon> i've installed the debian based
[05:59] <OerHeks> Seramon, answer: invalid operation, why don't you give us the exact comand and error?
[05:59] <Seramon> sudo apt-get maltego_tungsten_ce
[05:59] <kd_> irc://irc.freenode.net/#riot-os
[05:59] <OerHeks> !spam | ziptte
[05:59] <rurkowce> then it's just an invalid operation :v
[06:00] <rurkowce> as in you probably meant apt-get install
[06:00] <Seramon> oh? what should i input to run?
[06:00] <loadedanvils> hell.o
[06:00] <OerHeks> Seramon, drop 'apt-get'
[06:01] <Seramon> i can't find the app to run so i have to run it from terminal
[06:01] <OerHeks> why do you want that to run as root?
[06:01] <loadedanvils> wello, it seems that grub is not booting
[06:01] <loadedanvils> on ubuntu 14.04 which didn't have grub installed
[06:01] <loadedanvils> how do I repair grub
[06:01] <loadedanvils> (current grub install is bad)
[06:02] <Seramon> i thought i have to run it on root
[06:03] <jon__> Seramon, sudo apt-get install maltego_tungsten_ce
[06:04] <Seramon> mmm i tried running it after dropping apt-get
[06:04] <Seramon> i'm getting the following message
[06:05] <Seramon> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM warning: ignoring optiong MaxPermSize=128mb; support was removed in 8.0
[06:05] <fedora_newb> can't seem to get ubuntu to start up at all. Is there an error log or something I can check out to try to find the root cause?
[06:06] <fedora_newb> Get to the login prompt but never logs in
[06:06] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: dmesg
[06:06] <rurkowce> and stuff in /var/log
[06:07] <OerHeks> Seramon,  maltego is part of backtrack/kali linux as an hacking application, not supported here in #ubuntu
[06:07] <vArgas> hey thereim noob to ubuntu so heres a aquestion can i get malware or viruses like windows?
[06:07] <rurkowce> vArgas: theoretically
[06:07] <Seramon> oh?
[06:08] <vArgas> damn :S
[06:08] <fedora_newb> dmesg isn't showing anything that I can use...what specifically in the logs should I look at?
[06:08] <OerHeks> vArgas no
[06:08] <Seramon> so i can't use it in ubuntu?
[06:08] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: i have no idea where disappearing login box fits in
[06:09] <rurkowce> dmesg is kernel stuff
[06:09] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: /var/log/syslog maybe
[06:09] <rurkowce> since it's stuff from the daemons
[06:09] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: what version is this btw? :v
[06:10] <fedora_newb> 14.04
[06:12] <fedora_newb> blah linux
[06:13] <fedora_newb> rurkowce is there a way to copy dmesg to like a pastebin or something so you can see?
[06:13] <rurkowce> there's probably a simple explanation for all this :V
[06:14] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[06:14] <rurkowce> dmesg|pastebinit
[06:15] <cmanns> Is there a lubuntu hardy
[06:15] <fedora_newb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8393375 rurkowce
[06:16] <OerHeks> cmanns, i thought lubuntu started with Karmic 9.04
[06:17] <cmanns> no idea
[06:17] <cmanns> Going to see what hardy forks there is now
[06:17] <cmanns> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/xubuntu/releases/8.04/release/
[06:17] <cmanns> that works for me
[06:18] <OerHeks> have fun
[06:18] <kuda`> does ubuntu use bash scripts as part of the boot process?
[06:18] <sasaem> kuda, i believe ubuntu recently switched to using dash
[06:18] <cmanns> or should I use LXDE early version?
[06:18] <fedora_newb> rurkowce notice anything?
[06:19] <kuda`> ziptte is a spam bot
[06:19] <cmanns> omg I got spammed by ziptte
[06:19] <cmanns> didnt check what room, how do I report?
[06:20] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: i don't like that vesafb line since it implies that the module isn't signed, and all that stuff lightdm tried, that apparmor denied
[06:20] <rurkowce> but i don't know, maybe it's how ubuntu rolls
[06:20] <kuda`> sasaem: does ubuntu use dash during the boot process?
[06:21] <rurkowce> this would be the moment when i'd try to fix it by updating :v
[06:22] <fedora_newb> sudo apt-get update?
[06:22] <rurkowce> and apt-get upgrade
[06:22] <OerHeks> !ops | ziptte spam
[06:22] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: you could pastebin that xorg.conf thing if you haven't deleted it yet
[06:24] <DJones> Morning
[06:24] <fedora_newb> rurkowce not there anymore
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> DJones: hello mate
[06:24] <rurkowce> ok
[06:25] <fedora_newb> rurkowce how do I get to like an address bar on lynx?
[06:26] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: g
[06:26] <rurkowce> fedora_newb: links is a bit better though :V
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> !info links2 | fedora_newb
[06:27] <fedora_newb> blah, about to say screw this and stick with windows
[06:28] <fedora_newb> lol
[06:28] <rurkowce> understandable :v
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> fedora_newb: plz mind your language
[06:28] <fedora_newb> lotus, sorry, I am just not able to figure this out at all...
[06:28] <fedora_newb> irritated
[06:29] <fedora_newb> Had issues with the partition before, actually about 3 months ago? And its been sitting since.
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> does someone know if its legal to sell computers and install ubuntu on it, how the copyrights work?
[06:29] <tapesh> (tapesh) (tapesh) hi i am using ubuntu 14.04 LTS while i am building gedit  source i get gcc cannot create executables..i don't know how  to fix this
[06:30] <rurkowce> tapesh: why are you doing that?
[06:31] <tapesh> because i want to implement a feature request for gedit
[06:31] <rurkowce> ok, makes sense
[06:34] <fedora_newb> is there any way to like install the nvidia driver to get the latest update or the right one?
[06:34] <fedora_newb> like something like 'sudo apt-get install nvidia*'
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-current | fedora_newb
[06:35] <tapesh> i filed a bug asking the same but they say its a distro issue
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> fedora_newb: or check your additional drivers section
[06:36] <fedora_newb> lotuspsycheje, I am stuck on command line :/
[06:36] <fedora_newb> My gui isn't wanting to login and work correctly
[06:36] <fedora_newb> Not sure whats up
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> fedora_newb: then load ubuntu in recoverymode, hold shift during boot
[06:36]  * Snake2k hugs ubottu 
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> fedora_newb: and start failsafeX or fix broken packages
[06:37] <fedora_newb> I did load in recovery mode early, was one of the options on grub. Then went to the gui failsafe or whatever and it just kept allowing me to choose default something
[06:37] <fedora_newb> Anyways, didn't get me no where
[06:37] <fedora_newb> I saw the broken packages option but didn't choose that one
[06:38] <fedora_newb> Maybe I will try that next
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> fedora_newb: yes try fix broken apckages
[06:38] <fedora_newb> kk, thanks guys, much appreciated with the help
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> fedora_newb: did you install ubuntu with internet connection on?
[06:38] <fedora_newb> Yep, I actually have used this for awhile but stopped about 2 months ago or so
[06:38] <fedora_newb> Seems that long anyways
[06:39] <fedora_newb> going to restart :)
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> good luck
[06:48] <fedora_newb> Well, none of that worked :/
[06:49] <IIT> can anyone give some recommendation on what topic i can do thesis in linux ? ( something which also relates to mathematics )
[06:49] <fedora_newb> Ok, so my issue is, I boot up Ubuntu 14.04 which is dual booted beside windows 8.1. The login shows, when I go to click the login, it just randomly disappears and left with the ubuntu background and no login dialog.
[06:50] <fedora_newb> Any help would be appreciated.
[06:50] <OerHeks> fedora_newb, disable fastboot in windows8
[06:50] <OerHeks> else check the uefi manual or search for your hardware specific
[06:51] <OerHeks> !uefi
[06:51] <fedora_newb> OerKeks, this used to work
[06:51] <fedora_newb> I did an update and messed with this awhile back and jacked it up
[06:51] <fedora_newb> Don't think it is a Windows 8.1 issue
[06:52] <fedora_newb> Plus, I have another machine with the same setup, and it works fine with windows 8.1
[06:53] <fedora_newb> Ok, so my issue is, I boot up Ubuntu 14.04 which is dual booted beside windows 8.1. The login shows, when I go to click the login, it just randomly disappears and left with the ubuntu background and no login dialog.
[06:53] <OerHeks> fedora_newb, laptop?
[06:53] <fedora_newb> Yep, Asus G75 ROG
[06:54] <OerHeks> fedora_newb, maybe you pressed the FN internal/external screen button
[06:54] <fedora_newb> OerHeks, I do have an internal and external
[06:54] <fedora_newb> :)
[06:55] <fedora_newb> Its weird, cause once I click like the login, it just straigt disappears and I am not sure wht log I should check for any hints
[06:55] <fedora_newb> But the resolution remains the same, so its not like it jumped down or anything
[06:56] <OerHeks> Does this happen with the external screen disconnected?
[06:57] <fedora_newb> Yep OerHeks
[07:03] <newtux> ...meh
[07:03] <sgen__> meh?
[07:04] <sgen__> Mah?
[07:04] <OERIAS> Anyway to make the icons on the System Setting a bit smaller?
[07:06] <veno> hello, how to make shortcut to opened terminal? Instead of ALT+TAB I would like to have F1 for switching
[07:06] <utfans05_work> veno install guake.
[07:06] <utfans05_work> It gives you a drop down terminal on F12
[07:11] <veno> utfans05_work hmm normally I use Tilda for that
[07:11] <veno> but in Freya transparency doesnt work
[07:12] <veno> ok gonna check this guake
[07:12] <utfans05_work> veno: you can change the button for it in guake.
[07:13] <veno> guake totally doesnt' work in freya ;d
[07:13] <utfans05_work> :-/ Well I know it works in ubuntu which is the channel you are in :P
[07:21] <x_root> hello, i have a problem with unity
[07:21] <x_root> i tried to login with it (from a lightdm session, lol)
[07:22] <x_root> and it bugged.. didn't showed any window decoration, ctrl+alt+t not worked for call the terminal
[07:22] <x_root> what should i do? (i'm at gnome-shell now)
[07:26] <huigegood> x_root:what
[07:26] <x_root> huigegood, "what" what? o.O
[07:30] <x_root> huigegood_, my problem is.. windows decoration is not showing, shortcuts is not working
[07:30] <x_root> but just on unity
[07:30] <x_root> start happened after i tried to set a hot spots for "expose"
[07:34] <litropy> Perhaps this isn't the best chan for this, and if so, please redirect me. But how would I ssh into my server, which supplies my router with Internet, from a device connected to the router? Essentially, device has 192.168.1.100; server is 10.42.0.5. SSH from device to server.
[07:36] <CarlFK> litropy: ssh 10.42.0.5
[07:38] <CarlFK> this assumes a bit, like same user name, the router isn't filtering, etc.  but if you can, that's how.
[07:38] <litropy> CarlFK, hm ... last time i tried that, it didn't work. Perhaps I need to  port forward.
[07:38] <huigegood_> :),i'm a bird egg
[07:38] <litropy> I'm an egged bird.
[07:39] <CarlFK> litropy: "didn't work" is vague.    supply error messages
[07:40] <litropy> CarlFK, nevermind - I got it. Just had to allow it in the router.
[07:40] <litropy> CarlFK, thanks for your input.
[07:42] <th3_mol3> I downloaded some pr0n and now it's showing up in the search button thing
[07:42] <th3_mol3> lol
[07:42] <th3_mol3> any idea how to remove it?
[07:42] <litropy> th3_mol3, system settings > Privacy ... something. Hang on.
[07:43] <th3_mol3> clear usage data?
[07:43] <litropy> th3_mol3, you can actually block certain things instead
[07:44] <litropy> th3_mol3, like anything that has vlc associated with it
[07:44] <th3_mol3> ah right that's pretty neat
[07:44] <nydel> recently i've messed with my libc6/glibc libraries, a mess i effectively got out of by extracting 2.19 from the .deb i got off the ubuntu package site. but if i try something like an apt-get update && apt-get install, something goes wrong & everything i call gives me "segmentation fault" ... if i reboot into a fresh ubuntu & extract libc6/glibc again then chroot to my mounted filesystem all is well again. but
[07:44] <litropy> th3_mol3, system settings > privacy > applications tab
[07:44] <nydel> i'm not able to do daily upgrades! any advice?
[07:44] <th3_mol3> ty litropy
[07:44] <litropy> th3_mol3, np
[07:57] <geirha> nydel: sounds like libc wasn't the only thing you messed up, then
[07:58] <geirha> nydel: apt-get relies on many libs:   ldd "$(type -P apt-get)"
[08:07] <nydel> geirha: let me see what that gets me, thanks for your consideration here bud
[08:07] <nydel> ( geirha this is one of those where nobody wants to touch it & you feel completely alone heh )
[08:09] <nydel> geirha: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8394011/
[08:11] <geirha> nydel: right, so have you messed with any of those? :)
[08:12] <nydel> well libc.so.6 is in the list ... i tried to upgrade libc6/glibc from 17 and then ended up somehow running 15 and 19 at the same time
[08:12] <nydel> the others i haven't touched (to my knowledge)
[08:13] <nydel> and (listen up all) it was stupid of me to use debian tools on an ubuntu install. even if this was a small insignificant package, it's always stupid.
[08:14] <geirha> the debian package depended on a newer libc version?
[08:14] <OnkelTem> Hi all
[08:15] <OnkelTem> I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 still, and would like to upgrade apache from 2.2 to 2.4. Can you recommend good ppa for that?
[08:15] <nydel> a game called "Rust" that doesn't quite have a perfect dedicated server for linux, geirha, that's what i was trying to get going. it wanted libc latest and i wasn't thinking
[08:16] <nydel> what i meant is that i used a .deb package and dpkg -i to install the newest libc6/glibc -- that was wrong to do on an ubuntu
[08:18] <geirha> nydel: It is fixable, but the hard part is figuring out where the problem is
[08:18] <geirha> It will likely be less work to do a reinstall
[08:19] <geirha> nydel: does ''apt-get update'' alone cause segfault?
[08:20] <geirha> OnkelTem: Upgrade to 14.04. It has apache 2.4
[08:20] <geirha> !info apache2
[08:21] <OnkelTem> geirha: not an option, as Ubuntu 14.04 has broken locale switching
[08:21] <geirha> OnkelTem: broken locale switching?
[08:23] <OnkelTem> geirha: yes. Gnome issues. They had broken some locales stuff and don't seem to fix this eagerly enough.
[08:25] <OnkelTem> geirha: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=678001 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735813
[08:25] <OnkelTem> The former is like a disaster, don't know if this affects Unity or not, but I don't use Unity
[08:26] <OnkelTem> Now they fixed it, but in 3.12
[08:26] <OnkelTem> it took more then year (!) for they to fix it. I call this "gnome is dying". But this is just my opinion
[08:28] <geirha> Ouch, yes, sounds like something that should have a higher priority
[08:29] <OnkelTem> geirha: true :( Well, I wait unti 3.12 be in 14.04. How do you think, is it possible?
[08:30] <OnkelTem> or... switch finally to KDE. But I love Gnome/Unity UI much more..
[08:30] <geirha> I can pretty much guarantee that you will not see 3.12 in 14.04, but it is likely that ubuntu backports the fix
[08:32] <OnkelTem> it would be cool
[08:35] <chaotix1> hello is there any dell canonical official ppa for ubuntu 14.04 for the dell laptops?
[08:36] <maca> hola
[08:40] <Avnish> hi, i m just testing
[08:40] <Avnish> irc packets
[08:41] <wiehan> I have such a strange networking problem which I can't explain/solve. When I boot my ubuntu up. Wired network shows connected, but network.internet doesn't work. Also Orange light on network card lights up (solid, not flashing). I take out the cable and test it with a cable tester (all 8 wires light up green = meaning all is good with the cable at least, and that it makes contact with the switch), then I have to do this about twice
[08:41] <wiehan> , plug it back in and Internet and everything works like a charm. I have a Linksys ADSL router which serves as a DHCP server and that in turn is connected to a 16 port gigabit switch, everything connects off here. I have never had this issue before. Everything else on the network works very well. Any ideas?
[08:42] <BlackDalek> how do I force a gimp filter to quit without quitting gimp and losing my work?
[08:42] <Avnish> how to read dump file in wireshark??
[08:42] <Avnish> any ideas
[08:43] <usr13> wiehan: What nameserver are you using?
[08:44] <usr13> wiehan: You say that "network.internet doesn't work". What exactly doesn't work?
[08:44] <cfhowlett> BlackDalek, undo
[08:44] <usr13> wiehan: route -n ; cat /etc/resolv.conf ; ifconfig
[08:44] <wiehan> usr13, well nothing on the network works...
[08:44] <usr13> wiehan: host av.com
[08:44] <wiehan> usr13, How do I check which name server I use
[08:45] <hui> hello
[08:45] <hui>  I got a problem writing a program to delete a non-empty directory using C in linux,who can help me
[08:45] <geirha> BlackDalek: That question sounds highly specific to gimp. I recommend you try asking in #gimp instead
[08:45] <usr13> wiehan: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[08:45] <wiehan> usr13, do you wan't a pastebin of that?
[08:45] <usr13> wiehan: grep nameserver /etc/resolv.conf
[08:45] <cfhowlett> hui, #c channel
[08:45] <BlackDalek> cfhowlett, it is sharpen by synthesis filter... there is no undo. cancel is greyed out. the filter is still running. it has been running for 15 minutes. looks like it has another hour to go before it finishes.
[08:45] <wiehan> usr13 nameserver 127.0.1.1
[08:46] <hui> ok
[08:46] <cfhowlett> BlackDalek, ask #gimp
[08:46] <usr13> wiehan: route -n  #Do you see your router's IP?
[08:46] <wiehan> usr13, that's what is shows, the output of route -n ; cat /etc/resolv.conf ; ifconfig is obviously more verbose, do you need a pastebin of that?
[08:47] <wiehan> usr13 with route -n I see my routers IP
[08:47] <wiehan> usr13, it's listed under gateway
[08:48] <usr13> wiehan: host av.com  or ping av.com  *(Can you resolve a domain name or ping it?
[08:49] <wiehan> usr13, yes Now host av.com resolves immediately, the problem is now "fixed" but this happens at every single boot up cycle - and I need to take out the cable in and out a few times
[08:49] <usr13> wiehan: ping 8.8.8.8
[08:49] <JohnTalent> hey guys. I'm getting two dialog error messages starting at desktop. I didn't notice any /var/log/messages. is that normal?
[08:50] <wiehan> usr13, ping 8.8.8.8 seems successful
[08:50] <JohnTalent> i mean to say the file 'messages' isn't even there!
[08:50] <wiehan> usr13, 30 packets transmitted, 30 received, 0% packet loss, time 29038ms
[08:51] <geirha> JohnTalent: the default rsyslog configuration does not write to a /var/log/messages file
[08:51] <usr13> wiehan: We can not fix something that is not broke, but I've just showed you how to troubleshoot, (accept for the nameserver, I use /etc/resolve.conf on 12.04  you will have to do a little something different to find your nameserver)
[08:51] <geirha> So yes, it is normal for that file to not exist
[08:52] <usr13> Someone tell me how to find the nameserver IP on a modern Ubuntu system.
[08:52] <JohnTalent> geirha: great! thanks.
[08:52] <wiehan> usr13, but any idea why this happens on every boot up cycle? I've checked that the cable works, and other hardware works on network. Is it more a software > hardware issue? Is it an issue with this machine trying to connect to the switch? I appreciate the tips, thanks
[08:52] <JohnTalent> geirha: now how do I check for these dialog error boxes at startup of desktop?
[08:52] <usr13> wiehan:  cat /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[08:53] <usr13> wiehan: Is it a switch or a router?
[08:53] <JohnTalent> geirha: is that new? i had always thought i could see a /var/log/messages.
[08:53] <usr13> wiehan: (Does it have a separate WAN port, or not?)
[08:53] <geirha> JohnTalent: Depends what they are and why they appear. Your xsession logs all stdout and stderr to a file named ~/.xsession-errors  you might find some cluse there.
[08:53] <usr13> wiehan:  grep nameserver /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[08:54] <usr13> wiehan: Is it a switch or a router: (Does it have a separate WAN port, or not?)
[08:54] <wiehan> usr13, I have a linksys ADSL router that connects to the Switch (16 port gigabit), everything else connects from the switch and works fine
[08:54] <eeee> JohnTalent: do you mean the apport errors? The little dialog box that says Cancel or Report?
[08:54] <JohnTalent> eeee: it keeps asking me for a password to report it to ubuntu.
[08:55] <geirha> JohnTalent: /var/log/messages has been a convention of sorts, but not in any way a standard. You'll find most log messages in /var/log/syslog though
[08:55] <JohnTalent> eeee: yes i i think thats it! apport.
[08:55] <JohnTalent> geirha: thanks!
[08:55] <wiehan> usr13, I I'm not sure about a WAN port, but here in South Africa we use plane RJ11? Telephone cables for our measly broadband.
[08:55] <usr13> wiehan: If it is truly a switch, then the difference is that it does not have a DHCP server, (in which case, your PC will not "try to connect to it".)
[08:56] <wiehan> usr13, but all other devices connects fine in this fashion, it's just my machine that takes effort to connect
[08:56] <JohnTalent> geirha: ok
[08:57] <eeee> JohnTalent: Those are for testing, you can disable them with no ill effects.
[08:57] <usr13> wiehan: Let's go back to the nameserver issue:  grep nameserver /run/resolv.conf/resolv.conf
[08:57] <usr13> wiehan: Let's go back to the nameserver issue:  grep nameserver /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[08:57] <usr13> (TYPO)
[08:58] <chaotix1> hello is there any dell canonical official ppa for ubuntu 14.04 for the dell laptops?
[08:58] <JohnTalent> eeee: ah ok.
[08:58] <cfhowlett> chaotix1, only from dell.   not from canonical
[08:58] <eeee> JohnTalent: To disable them you'd have to edit /etc/default/apport , and set enabled=0
[08:59] <usr13> wiehan: try /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[08:59] <chaotix1> cfhowlett, thank you. i m upgrading my laptop from the factory iso (12.04) and I want to replace it to the 14.04 where I can find it?
[08:59] <JohnTalent> eeee: ok, how about debugging their logs?
[08:59] <cfhowlett> chaotix1, ah, different question.  upgrade the ubuntu image then add the dell ppas
[09:00] <cfhowlett> http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/w/wiki/3685.dell-xps-13-laptop-developer-edition-a-client-to-cloud-solution-project-sputnik
[09:01] <usr13> wiehan: Here is the deal:  You need 3 things.  1) IP (one that is in the range of your router, the same subnet)  2) A nameserver (one that works, one that actually resolves domain names) (usually it will be your router, because most all modern router's have a caching nameserver) 3) Default route, (usually your router's IP again).
[09:01] <chaotix1> cfhowlett, thanks, yeap i asked because the update program disables the external ppas
[09:02] <eeee> JohnTalent: If you click on details to the left, you can check the report. Also, you can find error messages about startup in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:02] <chaotix1> cfhowlett, so I will find the ppas on the dell community right?
[09:02] <cfhowlett> chaotix1, indeed.  normal distro uprade process is kick up the distro first then add PPA's.   (I'm still awaiting a Dell's official adoption of 14.04.1)  So ... xpd 13
[09:02] <cfhowlett> ?
[09:02] <cfhowlett> xps 13?
[09:02] <usr13> wiehan: More-than-likely, you will get one of those three things wrong, when you find out which it is, you will know what is wrong.  Right now, we can't do anything, because we do not know what is wrong.
[09:03] <chaotix1> cfhowlett, no inspiron 5547
[09:03] <chaotix1> cfhowlett, i made a clean install of 14.04.1 and I got fan and high temperature issues as many other people :/ and I am now upgrading from the factory
[09:03] <cfhowlett> chaotix1, graphics/touchpad/wifi/ all supported?
[09:03] <Avnish> when will ubuntu support nvidia
[09:03] <Avnish> any work arounds??
[09:04] <chaotix1> cfhowlett, all great but I had high temperature on cpu and the laptop was very hot!!!
[09:04] <chaotix1> cfhowlett, i think that the issue was because I didnt installed any dell ppa
[09:04] <cfhowlett> chaotix1, common problem ... hope 14.04.1 works better!
[09:04] <usr13> Avnish: What kind of question is that?  (Did you state it wrong?)
[09:05] <cfhowlett> !nvidia | Avnish,
[09:05] <chaotix1> cfhowlett, thanks, one last thing I  still cant find the URL of the ppas do you know the page that dell puts them?
[09:05] <wiehan> usr13 ty
[09:05] <cfhowlett> Avnish, if you want native nvidia drivers, scream at nvidia.
[09:05] <cfhowlett> chaotix1, wait 1
[09:05] <chaotix1> cfhowlett, sure! thanks
[09:06] <Avnish> yeah ... i heard torvalds saying "nvidia is a painin ***"
[09:06] <JohnTalent> eeee: thank you.
[09:06] <cfhowlett> chaotix1, see ISO and drivers on this page  http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/w/wiki/3687.sw-and-getting-sputnik-up-and-running
[09:06] <usr13> Avnish: Basically, (as cfhowlett points out), if you want Nvidia drivers, you have to get them from Nvidia.
[09:06] <brontosaurusrex> Avnish: nvidia is actually pretty cool for an end user
[09:06] <chaotix1> cfhowlett, thank you.
[09:07] <cfhowlett> chaotix1, happy2help
[09:07] <Avnish> oh sorry if i m nt up to date
[09:07] <chaotix1> cfhowlett, :) so i need to install this tool from github
[09:07] <cfhowlett> chaotix1, note:  XPS13 only but see the PPA  http://odm.ubuntu.com/uds-q/dellxps/
[09:07] <Avnish> has nvidia released any graphics driver for linux?
[09:08] <usr13> Avnish: But, if  you install Nvidia driver's manually, you will loose them with subsequent Kernel upgrade(s).  You can, however, get Nvidia drivers from the package management system, (usually).
[09:08] <usr13> Avnish: Yes
[09:08] <Avnish> thanks @usr13
[09:08] <usr13> Avnish: look at nvidia.com and see
[09:08] <chaotix1> cfhowlett, nice i got it :)
[09:08] <Avnish> let me check it out
[09:08] <Avnish> thanks all
[09:10] <JohnTalent> bye
[09:11] <__marco> Hello. Can I build a package for ubuntu from a debian machine?
[09:11] <cfhowlett> !hcl | __marco,
[09:12] <usr13> __marco: That is not exactly how it works.  But why would you?
[09:12] <usr13> __marco: Do you not have internet access for your Ubuntu machine?
[09:12] <wiehan> usr13 I've recreated the problem and have those terminal output for you
[09:13] <__marco> usr13: because qemu in 14.04 is compiled without vde support and I have only debian machines
[09:13] <usr13> wiehan Ok, let's see what is wrong
[09:14] <__marco> usr13: but I don't know if launchpad offers a build system
[09:14] <__marco> it would be great
[09:22] <basheba> what is the gnome network monitor gui called please?
[09:22] <geirha> __marco: It does. Create a PPA at launchpad, upload your source deb package, then launchpad will build it for the supported archs
[09:22] <Pakito> Helo
[09:22] <__marco> geirha: super, thanks
[09:24] <nispr0> can I use both inetd and xinetd?
[09:24] <nispr0> or will they conflict
[09:24] <Gnomethrower> nispr0: AFAIK, yes.
[09:24] <nispr0> okay
[09:24] <geirha> curious. Why would you want both?
[09:25] <cappe> how do I enable Swedish characters in console?`
[09:26] <cappe> i'm running irssi in console and can't write swedish characters
[09:26] <nispr0> cappe: try screen with -U
[09:26] <basheba> locals cappe
[09:27] <cappe> what's the charset code for swedish characters in irssi settings /set charset ????
[09:27] <nispr0> geirha: installaing nrpe and the guide are using xinetd
[09:27] <nispr0> geirha: dont think I want both
[09:27] <nispr0> just wanted to know if it will work
[09:32] <geirha> nispr0: which inetd do you have installed currently then?
[09:32] <MonkeyDust> !se | cappe ask here
[09:33] <geirha> nispr0: apt-cache policy 'inetd$'   # or if you have aptitude installed:  aptitude search '~i inetd'
[09:34] <nispr0> geirha: inetd 4.43
[09:35] <geirha> nispr0: you mean update-inetd 4.43?  that's not an actual inetd daemon.
[09:37] <geirha> There is no inetd implementations installed by default in ubuntu
[09:38] <nispr0> geirha: hmm, I see
[09:41] <cappe> I need Swedish characters in the console mode... I have tried numerous of "workarounds"... can you please help me?
[09:41] <cappe> I'm running Ubuntu trusty
[09:41] <cappe> I'm currently in irssi
[09:42] <cappe> I have configured term_charset to ISO-8859-1... still doesn't work
[09:43] <geirha> cappe: you get : ' and [ instead of the swedish characters?
[09:44] <geirha> cappe: ugh, do not use iso-8859-1. Use UTF-8
[09:44] <cappe> this is my swedish characters åäö !!!!!!! :/
[09:45] <geirha> cappe: and what do you get instead?
[09:45] <cappe> åäö instead
[09:45] <cappe> those arn't swedish special chars
[09:45] <quantum_bit> currently trying to install ubuntu on a laptop, but after the install i can't select the drive i installed it on in the boot menu (uefi)
[09:45] <nispr0> cappe: screen -rU
[09:45] <nispr0> cappe: för fan
[09:45] <cappe> I'm not running screen...
[09:46] <cappe> :D
[09:46] <jykko> hi
[09:46] <geirha> cappe: they show up correctly for me. Are you using screen or tmux?
[09:46] <nickbobee> when using the search bar to start a sftp session with a machine on my LAN i forget the trick.. we open the search bar and type <sftp://???> what is the trick for accessing a mahcine on my LAN with openSSH installed using the search bar and sftp trick?
[09:46] <jykko> list
[09:46] <cappe> I'm running plain from CONSOLE irssi
[09:46] <geirha> cappe: what does  locale  output?
[09:46] <cappe> It outputs only american chars
[09:46] <cappe> locale
[09:47] <cappe> guess there's the problem
[09:47] <cappe> how do I reconfigure
[09:47] <geirha> cappe: what does it output for LC_CTYPE ?
[09:47] <cappe> en_US.UTF-8
[09:47] <jberg_> hey, i install the newest kubuntu and chose automated partition of the whole disk with LVM and encryption, but for some reason the swap partition thats in /etc/fstab doesn't exist, is there an easy fix?
[09:48] <nispr0> jberg_: do you have a swap partition?
[09:48] <geirha> cappe: Ok, the important part is UTF-8. That it is english doesn't matter for this particular problem.
[09:48] <cappe> ok shouldn't I generate sv_SE charset??
[09:49] <geirha> cappe: next you'll want to make sure the console also uses utf8. To do that, run   sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[09:49] <jberg_> nispr0: nope, but in /etc/fstab (i think) it names one with uuid, so i don't know how it disappeared after the installation..
[09:49] <pagios> pre-up wpa_supplicant -Bw -Dwext -i INTERFACE -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf <-- will be called everytime the interface goes up? or only on boot?
[09:49] <nickbobee> when using the search bar to start a sftp session with a machine on my LAN i forget the trick.. we open the search bar and type <sftp://???> I remeber it being something like <sftp://https://192.168.1.10?> somthing like that? what was it again anyone know? what is the trick for accessing a mahcine on my LAN with openSSH installed using the search bar and sftp:// command?
[09:50] <geirha> cappe: Yes, you'll probably want to have swedish locale as well, to get the right sorting order and similar, but it will not affect the ability to type your swedish letters
[09:51] <MonkeyDust_> guys, if I run Stellarium on this 12.04 laptop with Intel graphic card, it says: "This system does not support openGL" and freezes completely ... I already install freeglut3 ... hints & tips?
[09:51] <geirha> cappe: locale -a   will tell you the ones that are currently installed
[09:51] <jberg_> is the swap partition thing a common bug in the newest kubuntu?
[09:52] <jberg_> can i fix it with a gui partition manager or do i have to read how LVM works?
[09:52] <geirha> cappe: If you already have sv_SE.UTF-8 in there, edit /etc/default/locale and change LANG to that. It takes effect when you log in
[09:52] <quantum_bit> already tried boot-repair (didn't help)
[09:58] <nickbobee> do i have to gksu nautilus first before i can use the search bar to access sftp on my openssh machines on my lan? i forgot damn.
[09:58] <nickbobee> when using the search bar to start a sftp session with a machine on my LAN i forget the trick.. we open the search bar and type <sftp://???> I remeber it being something like <sftp://https://192.168.1.10?> somthing like that? what was it again anyone know? what is the trick for accessing a mahcine on my LAN with openSSH installed using the search bar and sftp:// command? anyone?
[09:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[09:59] <pie870> salve
[09:59] <pie870> !list
[09:59] <MagicSpud> please somebody help me upgrading ubuntu 12.04 lts to 14.04 lts
[09:59] <geirha> nickbobee: do not use gksu. It's ssh://192.168.1.10/
[10:00] <MonkeyDust_> MagicSpud  start by telling us what goes wrong when you try
[10:00] <pie870> !list
[10:00] <MagicSpud> http://askubuntu.com/questions/513157/unresolvable-problem-error-when-upgrading-from-12-04-to-14-04
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> MagicSpud  what's in that wall of text?
[10:02] <MagicSpud> MonkeyDust_ same output that thread and when I try to upgrade without lightdm I get something more...it tells me to report the fatal error and to post my var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log and apt.log
[10:02] <nickbobee> geirha: no it starts with or has <sftp> in the command i just forgot it
[10:03] <geirha> nickbobee: Open a nautilus window (not with gksu), hit Ctrl+L -> ssh://user@hostname/home/user
[10:04] <nickbobee> geirha: no there is a way to connect to a iPhone with open ssh on it using the sftp:// ???????? from the search bar i just forgot it
[10:04] <nickbobee> damn
[10:04] <MagicSpud> MonkeyDust_ please check it out: http://www.pasteall.org/54106 main log here
[10:04] <geirha> nickbobee: ah ok, ssh:// and sftp:// are the same. Use whichever you prefer; but they both use sftp
[10:05] <geirha> nickbobee: Not from the searchbar, no. Location bar
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> MagicSpud  please, describe what goes wrong instead of posting walls of text
[10:05] <geirha> nickbobee: Or choose the  "Connect to server" instead
[10:05] <nickbobee> its not working just the sftp://192.168.1.10? geirha i thinks i had to type http or https i forget
[10:05] <MagicSpud> MonkeyDust_ towards the end are the lines that appeared when running do-dist-release upgrade without lightdm
[10:05] <geirha> nickbobee: what's the error message?
[10:06] <nickbobee> no error it just doesnt find the device ..ge
[10:06] <WileTheCoyot> irc://irc.darkartika.net/bronx
[10:06] <geirha> nickbobee: then make sure the ip and port is correct
[10:06] <MagicSpud> MonkeyDust_ the problem is it says an unresolvable problem occurred
[10:07] <MagicSpud> MonkeyDust_ and I had no more outputs so I ve been waiting to see whether that thread I first post would have solution but today I tried to run the do release upgrade without the desktop and something more appeared...more info
[10:08] <MagicSpud> MonkeyDust_ I only wrote down the log files and now I am back in desktop
[10:08] <MagicSpud> MonkeyDust_ but it said some fatal error occured and that I need to report it
[10:10] <MonkeyDust> MagicSpud  describe what you did and tried, in one line, and address the channel please
[10:10] <MagicSpud> MonkeyDust thanks for the help I ll try to be more clear...how would I take a snapshot without the desktop?
[10:11] <MagicSpud> I would like to post the fatal error
[10:11] <nickbobee> geirha: there is a trick and i forgot it damn... i used to be able to do it.. its like you go to the search bar and type sftp:// and then https:// and then the ip or something i forget but damn... i used to be able to do it.. now im getting nothing just using the sftp://192.168.1.10?
[10:11] <nickbobee> geirha: usually it will ask for login and password at that screen immediatley
[10:12] <geirha> nickbobee: so your problem is that it is unable to connect to 192.168.1.10 port 22 ... make sure the device is using that ip and has an ssh daemon listening on port 22
[10:13] <nickbobee> geirha: it does.
[10:13] <geirha> nickbobee: how do you know?
[10:13] <BluesKaj> MagicSpud, make sure you update and upgrade before doing the do-release-upgrade, otherwise you could have problems
[10:13] <nickbobee> i know because my iPhone under steeing clearly displays its ip geirha
[10:14] <geirha> nickbobee: and you are sure it has an ssh daemon listening on port 22 ?
[10:14] <nickbobee> yes
[10:15] <nickbobee> even if it didnt i should say .. this device has no open ssh ...
[10:15] <nickbobee> if oyu have any iPhone on your LAN you can attempt to login to it
[10:15] <nickbobee> if it has no openssh installed it will jsut say this device does not support sftp etc?
[10:18] <nickbobee> look its simple nevemind the iPhone bit. when attempting to connect to a machine on your LAN using only its ip address you can do do by going to your search bar in nautilus and typing in a command ... i forgot it but i know its <sftp://???????????????
[10:20] <nickbobee> geirha: ok so what do i type into as the server address using connect to server option ?
[10:20] <joshoowa> hi all can you help me with unetbootin -- its installed on xubuntu -- but when I select create from my image
[10:21] <minimec> nickbobee: Can you connect via terminal to that computer, like 'ssh user@ip-of-the-machine'. The filemanager sometimes 'hangs' when it comes to sftp...
[10:21] <nickbobee> geirha: if i have a device on my LAN with ip address 192.168.1.10? and i want to connec tto it using that ip only then what is the address using "connect to server"
[10:21] <nickbobee> minimec: who is "user"
[10:22] <minimec> nickbobee: the 'user' you want to login with, like 'ssh minimec@myhomeserver'
[10:22] <scarleo> nickbobee, that depends on what services you have running on your server, the ssh daemon must be configured and running to connect via SSH / SFTP
[10:22] <nickbobee> minimec: there is a damn trick for only knowing the devices ip address
[10:23] <nickbobee> scarleo: it is
[10:23] <scarleo> if your username is the same on both machines you do not need to specify it
[10:23] <scarleo> just open a terminal and typ ssh 192.168.1.10
[10:24] <joshoowa> hi all can you help me with unetbootin -- its installed on xubuntu -- at /usr/bin/unetbootin, sometimes when I open it from there it says, already installed do you want to remove it? other times it opens the program. Firstly how do I get it to always open the program and not ask me if I want to uninstall it. Secondly im trying to install an image I
[10:24] <joshoowa>  got from Evolution Arch (a gui arch installer) but whenever I reboot it doesn't come up with the boot from Unetbootin at root / -- how do I get it to work with this image?
[10:25] <minimec> nickbobee: 'sudo apt-get install arp' then 'arp -a'
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Isn't arp in a default install?
[10:25] <MagicSpud> after using alt+ctrl+f2 what happens?
[10:25] <minimec> ActionParsnip: Possible...
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> minimec: covers the bases I guess :-)
[10:26] <joshoowa> can anyone help me with unetbootin?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> joshoowa: ask and see
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> joshoowa: unetbootin is a simple creature
[10:26] <minimec> nickbobee: that one is even faster 'sudo arp-scan --interface=eth0 --localnet' ;)
[10:27] <joshoowa> i all can you help me with unetbootin -- its installed on xubuntu -- at /usr/bin/unetbootin, sometimes when I open it from there it says, already installed do you want to remove it? other times it opens the program. Firstly how do I get it to always open the program and not ask me if I want to uninstall it. Secondly im trying to install an image I
[10:27] <joshoowa> got from Evolution Arch (a gui arch installer) but whenever I reboot it doesn't come up with the boot from Unetbootin at root / -- how do I get it to work with this image?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> joshoowa: is this unetbootin installed in Arch?
[10:27] <joshoowa> no its in xubuntu
[10:28] <joshoowa> i typed which unetbootin in terminal to find it.
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> joshoowa: then launch it from the Xubuntu menu
[10:28] <oz6oh> test
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> joshoowa: it won't offer to uninstall itself. Never seen that
[10:28] <joshoowa> it asks me if I want to remove it when I do that. Sometimes it opens the program, asometimes it asks if I want to uninstallit
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> !test | oz6oh
[10:28] <joshoowa> ActionParsnip: well it offers me.
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> joshoowa: can you give a screenshot, use imageshack or similar
[10:29] <oz6oh> ok
[10:29] <joshoowa> ill try -- connectivity issues at the moment both wireless and wire having issues.
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> guys, if I run Stellarium on this 12.04 laptop with Intel graphic card, it says: "This system does not support openGL" and freezes completely ... I already installed freeglut3 ... this didn't happen days ago ... hints & tips?
[10:30] <joshoowa> when I run unetbootin in terminal it says "unetootin is currently installed. remove the existing version with a Y N prompt"
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: what is the output of: apt-cache policy stellarium
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> joshoowa: why mot use the icon in the menu, like normal.
[10:32] <joshoowa> ActionParsnip: in start menu gives me the same issue.
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8394831/
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> joshoowa: if you are wanting to put an Ubuntu ISO on USB, you can use dd and copy the ISO that way
[10:33] <Guest23167> hi. why is an internal cardreader not always working? i.e. now it doesnt recognise the sd card, but if i reboot it will maybe.. i need to reboot a few times to get it work. not too ..... good. and no clue why.
[10:34] <joshoowa> ive used dd to copy various iso to usb but im having huge trouble getting this hp eliteboot 6930p to boot from usb.
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust:  could try https://launchpad.net/~stellarium/+archive/ubuntu/stellarium-releases
[10:35] <joshoowa> so when unetbootin worked (after I managed to install it on a broken windows) I was happy. But wireless and wired internet is playing up so I thought try another distro.
[10:35] <joshoowa> I was going to boot arch with the evolution installer.
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Guest23167: before you remove the sd card, do you use the safe removal feature in the OS before removing it physically?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> joshoowa: I would uninstall unetbootin completely then reinstall it after running: sudo apt-get clean
[10:37] <Guest23167> ActionParsnip: u mean like yesterday when i last time used the card in the system? so if i removed with umount last time i used it? i used the card in a windows 7 system last time. (very last time in a digital camera)
[10:37] <joshoowa> ActionParsnip: I will try that thanks.
[10:37] <joshoowa> is there a terminal command to uninstall it, I only know sudo apt-get install SomeProgram.
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest23167: did you use the safe removal in Windows7 before you removed it physically?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> joshoowa: sudo apt-get --purge remove unetbootin
[10:38] <Guest23167> ActionParsnip: i think i dont always use the safe way. but last time i simply let the card in, and shut down the system.
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> joshoowa: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Guest23167: I'd boot to Windows an
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Guest23167: and inset the card, chkdsk the storage then use the safe removal in the system tray and pull it out when instructed
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Guest23167: you'll probably find it works in Ubuntu
[10:40] <Guest23167> god... :) and what is causing this?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Guest23167: misuse of storage by owner.....very common
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest23167: its NTFS right?
[10:41] <Guest23167> fine. i got that. but technically..
[10:41] <Guest23167> its a 16gb sdcard for a canon camera. so i guess yes.
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest23167: if the storage is not ejected correctly then it will be marked as "dirty"
[10:41] <Guest23167> i c
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Guest23167: then Linux wont want to touch it, if you use your storage correctly then you dont get issues
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Guest23167: if you use the safe removal then the caches are synced and he storage released properly
[10:42] <MagicSpud> okay I read a bit about ttys and what I would need is to see/read what I typed and the output I got from a tty while I am back to desktop...how would I do this?
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Guest23167: why do you think its the first thing I ask?
[10:43] <Guest23167> ActionParsnip: sad  is that it cant be fixed but only with a windows pc.. :) ok ms doesnt gives a ... about security. but still. there should be a way to override this.
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> MagicSpud: you could pipe the output to a file, then read the file in the desktop?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest23167: you are using a proprietary file system!
[10:44] <Guest23167> like maybe a question as "the card is marked as dirty, do you still want to mount it etc etc etc" so the usual warning.
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Guest23167: proprietary to Microsoft who make Windows, so YES you need Windows to fix their filesytem
[10:44] <MagicSpud> oh cool thanks ActionParsnip could you post an example command please?
[10:45] <Guest23167> i reboot then and "enjoy" my ms os.
[10:45] <Guest23167> bb
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Guest23167: if Windows devs would put the ability to access more than 3 file systems in their OS, you could use a journalised file system which would be fine
[10:46] <Guest23167> thats right. it would be a great "foundation"
[10:46] <Guest23167> thanks bb
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> MagicSpud: find $HOME | grep -i mp3 > ~/Desktop/result.txt
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Guest23167: funny how a publicly readable file system is not in Windows
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  thanks for the ppa link, but methinks opengl is the problem, supertux2 also won't run
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: strange, does compiz run ok?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: have you tried the Intel driver installer (OmgUbuntu has links)
[10:49] <joshoowa> ActionParsnip: unetbotin installed again so I will try and install arch from evolution installer gui. wish me luck thanks for the help everyone.
[10:52] <OERIAS> why did they discontinue Wubi?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> OERIAS: irs garbage and prone to breakages
[10:53] <cfhowlett> OERIAS, because it never worked right and because fixing it for 14.04 was WAY more trouble than it was worth.
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> OERIAS: if you want a try before you buy install, use virtualbox or similar
[10:54] <OERIAS> True. But how about the whole "Try Ubuntu in a more native environment approach"
[10:55] <xangua> Right native, if Windows fails ubuntu fails
[10:56] <cfhowlett> xangua, not if but when ... ftfy
[10:56] <gdi2k_> wondering if someone can help me with using an rsync backup script: https://github.com/thebestsolution/backup-script/blob/master/backup.sh - I would like to exclude the "nbd-swap" directory in the root folder of the backup. I have placed a "mybackup.exclude" file in the directory above the directory that I am backing up containing "nbd-swap". But the directory still gets backed up. Maybe I'm placing the exclude file in the wrong directory? EXCLUDE="$DIR/$BAC
[10:56] <gdi2k_> KUP_NAME.exclude"
[10:56] <joshoowa> ActionParsnip: I rebooted when it said but I got no Unetbootin option. Is there something I need to tick, or a bios boot order?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> OERIAS: if the OS suits then use it. You can test ubuntu native using a persistent usb as well
[10:57] <OERIAS> True. Might as well.
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> joshoowa: you will need to check your manual to set USB boot
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> OERIAS: basicaly, its awful
[10:58] <joshoowa> ok but if I set to usb boot a unetbootin option should show up right, no special option in the program itself.
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> joshoowa: yes, you need to tell the BIOS to boot USB first
[10:59] <OERIAS> Well I ran Ubuntu on my sister's desktop because I refused to use her OS. It did serve me well since I made a weekly copy of the .img
[11:00] <joshoowa> ActionParsnip: but i've been setting unetbootin to install to HDD / (root) not usb, should I do otherwise?
[11:00] <joshoowa> should i try install to usb.
[11:00] <joshoowa> first instead of hdd
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> joshoowa: thats how Ubuntu gets installed a lot of times. You need to boot USB first if you are installing or even just testimg
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> OERIAS: it did work, its just very fragile
[11:01] <joshoowa> ActionParsnip: so choosing hdd or usb shouldn't matter so long as I choose the appropriate boot option (either HDD or usb) and set it to first in BIOS boot order right).
[11:02] <OERIAS> It was.... Just a force reboot and it corrupted the install
[11:02] <OERIAS> and there was usually a possibility of ruining the MBR.
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> joshoowa: yes, some BIOSes have buttons to change the boot device for one shot
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> OERIAS: exactly, imagine the data loss by users and the target audience of ubuntu. It's rubbish. I'm glad it died
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> OERIAS: especially when so many people don't backup data (for their own reasons)
[11:04] <minimec> OERIAS: joshoowa: I have a SanDisk 64GB Extreme USB 3.0 and run two 'full installs' on it: Ubuntu 14.04 and Fedora 20 (encrypted). I use it with zram swap and mount /tmp in RAM to avoid writing cycles on the stick. I can really recommend such an install.
[11:06] <OERIAS> Which is why i still debian.
[11:06] <OERIAS> *still use debian.
[11:06] <joshoowa> minimec: I have a sandisk cruzer blade 8GB maye it my usb??
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> OERIAS: that doesn't make any sesne
[11:07] <OERIAS> ActionParsnip, RAM and diskspace efficiency
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> OERIAS: my ubuntu instal is 4Gb and uses about 200Mb RAM
[11:08] <joshoowa> is there a command to check if my laptops dvd drive is working? connected?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> OERIAS: ubuntu minimal plus openbox.....
[11:08] <OERIAS> Well I was able to use Ubuntu on my 3.5 ghz i7 with 6 GB of RAM
[11:08] <joshoowa> ActionParsnip: which ubuntu you use for that small install lubuntu?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> joshoowa: sudo lshw -C disk
[11:08] <minimec> joshoowa: You can use it, but the 'new' san disk drives use a better chip starting from 64GB.
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> joshoowa: I use minimal and build up
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> OERIAS: so how is ubuntu not great for disk and ram usage?
[11:09] <michele_> salve devo modificare l'ordine del grub
[11:09] <michele_> come faccio?
[11:09] <joshoowa> minimec: so I can use my usb I should just keep messing with bios settings until it boots from usb or cd?
[11:10] <OERIAS> ActionParsnip, flash drives. not HDs
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> MichaelC: do you want Windows to be first in Grub?
[11:10] <michele_> yes
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> OERIAS: its the same difference,  the kernel just sees a file system
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> michele_: give me a sec....
[11:10] <minimec> joshoowa: I don't even change the BIOS. I can choose alternate boot devices with 'F12' on boot...
[11:11] <michele_> it's in 5 position starting from 1 (1 is ubuntu 14.04 lts)
[11:11] <michele_> starting from the top
[11:11] <OERIAS> plus the packaging is superior, but I do use Ubuntu on some PCs. like the media server.
[11:11] <joshoowa> ok ill keep trying normally i 2 can do that not this lappy
[11:12] <minimec> joshoowa: I install grub on the MBA of the drive...
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> michele_: sudo mv /etc/grub.d/ 30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober
[11:12] <phillip2> hi, I have got a AVM FRITZ!Card PCMCIA and I would like to get it to work with ubuntu 14.04, after search in the internet I have not found a solution, has any one a tip for me?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> michele_: then run: sudo update-grub
[11:13] <joshoowa> minimec: that sounds usefull I only just learned to use dd to copy a iso to usb. that's what I do, maybe thats why it doesnt work?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> OERIAS: ubuntu is based on Debian, so its the same packaging
[11:13] <michele_> mv: l'obiettivo "/etc/grub.d/09_os-prober" non è una directory
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> michele_: copy and paste the command I gave as ONE command.
[11:14] <OERIAS> ActionParsnip, they still haven't ported Unity over to Debian.
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> michele_: the mv command renames the file
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> OERIAS: so?
[11:15] <eeee> ActionParsnip: there's an added space there
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> michele_: so you need both filenames in the command
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> eeee: ahh thanks
[11:15] <michele_> michele@michele-K53SC:~$ sudo mv /etc/grub.d/ 30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober
[11:15] <michele_> mv: l'obiettivo "/etc/grub.d/09_os-prober" non è una directory
[11:15] <michele_> michele@michele-K53SC:~$
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> michele_: remove he space I added, sorry
[11:16] <michele_> what space?
[11:16] <minimec> joshoowa: I guess... Probably. It cannot read MBR? Can you boot an alternate install on a harddisk and do an update-grub? If dd worked, you should have a additioinal boot option for the card in grub...
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> OERIAS: so what if Unity isnt available in Debian.....there is nothig at all stopping the Debian guys (or anyone) fompiling the code in debian
[11:16] <michele_> pls rewrite correctly
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> michele_: sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> OERIAS: so, what is your point exaftly?
[11:17] <OERIAS> ActionParsnip, I am just chatting.
[11:17] <michele_> mv: impossibile eseguire stat di "/etc/grub.d/30_os-prober": File o directory non esistente
[11:17] <michele_> michele@michele-K53SC:~$
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> OERIAS: this is support only, chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:18] <OERIAS> Although I will have to take it to offtopic.
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> michele_: what is the output of: ls /etc/grub.d/*
[11:18] <michele_> /etc/grub.d/00_header        /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+
[11:18] <michele_> /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme  /etc/grub.d/30_uefi-firmware
[11:18] <michele_> /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober     /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[11:18] <michele_> /etc/grub.d/10_linux         /etc/grub.d/41_custom
[11:18] <michele_> /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen     /etc/grub.d/README
[11:18] <michele_> michele@michele-K53SC:~$
[11:18] <unopaste> michele_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> michele_: looks fine, run: sudo update-grub
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> michele_: do you see Windows in the output?
[11:21] <michele_> thanks now it's in the first position :D good bye
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Np easy days
[11:22] <joshoowa> minimec: so I dont need to do anything additional from dd if=Some.img of=SomeDRive in order to make a usb bootable and install an os?
[11:22] <Roland-> hi
[11:22] <Roland-> I have 10.64.0.0       0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth1, is there any way to specify the gateway ?
[11:23] <mishravikas> hi all can anyone please help me find solution for slow boot up I have a line in dmesg where it goes to 74 seconds from 19 seconds can anyone please explain that?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Roland-: you will need to delete the route then add it with a gateway specified
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> mishravikas: can you pastebin the dmesg output?
[11:24] <minimec> joshoowa: no. You copy a working image on the usb drive. afterwards you have two possibilities. You can boot the 'default' Ubuntu install on the harddrive and do 1) 'sudo update-grub' to make it visible in grub of the harddrive... 2) chroot to the USB INstallation and do a manual grub install on the MBA of the USB drive.
[11:25] <minimec> johnca: MBR not MBA ;)
[11:25] <Roland-> ActionParsnip if I try to do that it will say network unreachable.
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Roland-: is there a gateway set on eth1?
[11:26] <Roland-> it is in network/interfaces
[11:26] <guest-qW6C1y> !loginloop
[11:26] <guest-qW6C1y> !loop
[11:26] <evil_dan2wik> Where is the default apache location?
[11:27] <mishravikas> ActionParsnip: Here it is https://pastebin.mozilla.org/6571548
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> evil_dan2wik: apache what, binary? Data?
[11:27] <evil_dan2wik> for web data.
[11:28] <Roland-> ip route add 10.64.0.0/24 dev eth1 will still do it wrong
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> mishravikas: use the web to see what " plymouth-upstart-bridge respawning too fast" means
[11:28] <Roland-> 10.64.0.0       0.0.0.0
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> evil_dan2wik: /var/www-data
[11:28] <Roland-> it should be .1
[11:29] <evil_dan2wik> ActionParsnip, it isn't that.
[11:29] <evil_dan2wik> I put things in there and the server says the directory is empty
[11:29] <evil_dan2wik> ActionParsnip, http://198.12.75.222/
[11:30] <Roland-> SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable after deleting
[11:30] <evil_dan2wik> there is an index.php file in the root of it
[11:30] <evil_dan2wik> but it isn't showing that.
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> evil_dan2wik: tried restarting the service?
[11:31] <evil_dan2wik> ActionParsnip, not yet.
[11:31] <evil_dan2wik> I can do that now
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Roland-: route add -net 10.64.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0 gw 192.168.1.10
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Roland-: obviously change the gateway IP
[11:33] <bster> Morning. I want sendmail-bin to work on a box that doesn't have a public DNS entry. It seems that sendmail wants `hostname` to be an FQDN. I can add an FQDN to /etc/hosts, but is it okay just to make one up?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> evil_dan2wik: you could ask in #apache
[11:34] <evil_dan2wik> ok
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> bster: if you like. Can't see why not
[11:41] <sennn_> hello,there
[11:42] <bster> ActionParsnip: thanks, I can't either. Just feels wrong. It's a global solution to what seems like a local problem.
[11:43] <bster> I just noticed #sendmail, I'll ask the same there.
[11:52] <MagicSpud> MonkeyDust when I get into a virtual terminal and run sudo do-release-upgrade I get this: http://www.pasteall.org/54107
[11:53] <gr33n7007h> Is there a simple gui tool for cropping a piece song out of an mp3 ?
[11:53] <MagicSpud> MonkeyDust but there are some lines I only see in the TTY they say something like 'unicodeencodeerror and ascii problems'
[11:55] <gr33n7007h> I could use ffmpeg or aconv but just wondering if there is gui alternative?
[11:57] <guest-qW6C1y> gr33n7007h, audacity
[11:58] <gr33n7007h> guest-qW6C1y, lemme take a look
[12:00] <gr33n7007h> guest-qW6C1y, awesome exactly what I was looking for +1
[12:05] <Alex221090> hello
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Hi Alex221090
[12:30] <ritwik> ./join ubuntu
[12:34] <Shariff> Hi there
[12:35] <Shariff> I think i removed myself from the group of sudoers after I issued a command usermod -G dialout kevin... kevin is the only user on the system.. how do I gain the ability to use sudo again?
[12:36] <smacktalk> is there a command to give disk space and memory
[12:36] <Humbedooh> smacktalk: df -h
[12:36] <Humbedooh> and free -m
[12:37] <Humbedooh> that gives humanly readable output
[12:37] <Humbedooh> Shariff: single user mode?
[12:38] <Shariff> Nope
[12:38] <Shariff> I just never made more users
[12:38] <Humbedooh> I mean, start in single user mode
[12:38] <Shariff> oh :D
[12:38] <Humbedooh> from the boot menu, pick the recovery item
[12:38] <facepalm> Shariff, maybe ...   sudo adduser (user) sudo
[12:38] <Humbedooh> and drop to root shell
[12:39] <Shariff> facepalm:  I cannot.. I'm not authorized to use sudo anymore
[12:39] <facepalm> Oh duh, my bad, sorry.
[12:39] <Shariff> Humbedooh: and then run another usermod command to add me back go the group?
[12:39] <Humbedooh> yup
[12:39] <Shariff> Thanks!
[12:39] <Humbedooh> np
[12:40] <Ben64> Shariff: you'll probably have to add a bunch of groups
[12:40] <Shariff> For some reason I thought usermod -G adds me to another group but not remove me from another :D
[12:40] <Ben64> usermod -a -G <group> <user>
[12:40] <Shariff> Ben64, probabaly.. just have to figure out which ones again.. as long as I can sudo that won't be a problem :)
[12:40] <Ben64> to add
[12:40] <bster> Shariff: you might need to remount your filesystem r/w before you can use usermod (ref http://askubuntu.com/questions/79933)
[12:40] <Ben64> my groups = ben64 adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare mythtv
[12:41] <Ben64> you probably won't have mythtv :)
[12:41] <Shariff> Thanks a lot for all the help!
[12:42] <ash123> Hello! I am wondering if anyone could help me with a problem I'm having with Ubuntu
[12:42] <Shariff> Kinda stupid of me to loose my proverbial keys :D
[12:43] <ash123> Ubuntu (latest version) is consistently disconnecting from the internet, it will only stay on for about 5 seconds and then takes quite a while to reconnect. I don't have this problem on Windows 7.
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> ash123  wifi?
[12:43] <ash123> I think it is something to do with 802.11bgn showing up when I type iwconfig into the Terminal, but I have no idea how to disable 802.11n
[12:43] <ash123> yes, wireless
[12:43] <ash123> I use a TP-link USB dongle
[12:43] <smacktalk> Humbedooh Thanks!
[12:44] <Humbedooh> smacktalk: np, happy to help
[12:44] <halina> you'll probably have to add a bunch of groups happy to help
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> so it's wifi, it's not internet... try connecting with a normal cable, see if the connection problem persists
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> ash123  ^^^
[12:44] <ash123> The router is in another room, it is inconvenient for me to move it to my computer
[12:45] <bster> long cable
[12:45] <ash123> Is there a way to disable 802.11n? I think that may be the problem
[12:48] <minimec> ash123: Try to find additional info abut your device and driver with th 'ID' for your device inn the output of lsusb. do a iinternet search with something like this '046d:0994 ubuntu driver' ...
[12:50] <ash123> the modle number for my USB dongle is TL-WN821N
[12:50] <ash123> model*
[12:50] <ash123> but I can't find much about it when it comes to disconnection problems and ubuntu
[12:51] <shibly> What is special about Ubuntu ?
[12:51] <ash123> sorry I am a bit of a noob, I only installed Ubuntu because it is recommended I use a linux distro for learning C
[12:51] <ash123> and Ubuntu is supposed to be the 'easy' linux distro
[12:51] <b9xr7> hello
[12:52] <shibly> hello ?
[12:53] <gr33n7007h> ash123, you could try sudo iwconfig wlan* modulation 11g
[12:53] <shibly> Isn't there any other distros better than ubuntu ?
[12:53] <ash123> i what does the modulation parameter do?
[12:53] <gr33n7007h> shibly, yep, arch
[12:53] <ash123> what*
[12:54] <shibly> what is it ? arch ?
[12:54] <minimec> ash123: try 'lsmod | grep ath9k_htc' in a terminal. is it loaded (do you get an output)?
[12:54] <gr33n7007h> sets it to a specific band n, g, b
[12:54] <ash123> im on windows 7 at the moment so i cant type it in right now
[12:54] <gr33n7007h> ah, ok
[12:54] <ash123> i wouldnt be able to speak in here on ubuntu cus of this problem
[12:54] <ash123> all i know so far: 802.11bgn is enabled
[12:55] <ash123> I am thinking only one of them should be enabled
[12:55] <ash123> but don't know how to go about doing this
[12:55] <gr33n7007h> that shouldn't really matter if they are all enabled but worth a try I suppose
[12:55] <shibly> I've tried ubuntu but It doesn't seem to be good
[12:55] <shibly> it alwayes slow
[12:55] <gr33n7007h> shibly, what do you want from it?
[12:56] <ash123> gr33n7007h: what does the 'modulation' parameter do in what you mentioned?
[12:56] <shibly> Simply a distro that works without crashing
[12:56] <logy> anyone knows an alternative to remastersys?
[12:56] <gr33n7007h> changes to either 802.11n, 802.11g etc
[12:56] <ash123> ah ok, so in your example it changed to 11g?
[12:56] <ash123> changes*
[12:57] <logy> ash123 you have wifi problem?
[12:57] <minimec> ash123: Ok. In a germen post someone recommends to disable a hardware encryption feature of the driver. see the post and commands of the user 'praseodym' in the thread. http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/wie-usb-stick-tp-link-tl-wn821n-installieren-u/
[12:57] <gr33n7007h> yep
[12:57] <shibly> bye
[12:57] <logy> is your wifi card broadcom ?
[12:57] <ash123> logy: I do yes, with Ubuntu, it immediately disconnects from the internet after successfully connecting
[12:57] <ash123> well not immediately, after about 5 seconds
[12:57] <ash123> minimec: ill check that out now
[12:57] <logy> drivers
[12:58] <minimec> ash123: So I would boot ubuntu and check if your stick uses that mentioned 'ath9k_htc' driver, and then maybe try the mentioned commands to configure the driver.
[12:58] <gr33n7007h> ash123, although it is chipset specific
[12:58] <logy> the drivers installed are not good, i had that problem but with a broadcom wifi card
[12:59] <gr33n7007h> ash123, is your NIC usb and an atheros chipset?
[13:00] <ash123> i dont fully understand what you have asked
[13:00] <ash123> cus im a bit of a noob
[13:00] <ash123> it is a TP-link USB dongle
[13:01] <gr33n7007h> ash123, so it's usb, do you know if it's an atheros chipset?
[13:01] <ash123> i dont know if it is an Atheros chipset or not
[13:02] <ash123> i will try what you guys mentioned though
[13:02] <_ynk> hi I have a problem, I can't get an old laptop to boot via USB. it has no CD drive... any suggestions?
[13:02] <logy> ash123 when you type in terminal    ---->  lspci   what is the last line you have?
[13:02] <ash123> sudo iwconfig wlan0 modulation 11g (or maybe n, since the model number of this dongle is TL-WN821N)
[13:02] <logy> _ynk did you try to change it in Boot setup?
[13:02] <ash123> logy I can't type into the terminal because I am on windows 7
[13:02] <_ynk> logy: of course. I did change to it and disabled to the hard drive to be sure
[13:03] <logy> ah yea
[13:03] <gr33n7007h> ash123, make sure you put your interface down first with ifconfig wlan* down
[13:03] <ash123> gr33n7007h, what do you mean by putting the interface down?
[13:03] <logy> then  ash123 at the desktop right click on my computer -->manage  then on the left side  ----> device manager and at NETWORK ADAPTERS you should see what wifi card you have
[13:04] <logy> _ynk you probably changed it to the Hdd (hard disk of your computer) not to the usb disk
[13:05] <gr33n7007h> brb
[13:05] <logy> _ynk also when the computer is booting it is showing like  press f9 for boot options (f9 is at my pc), also what did you use to put the linux on usb
[13:05] <ash123> logy it only says that it is a 300Mbps wireless usb adapter
[13:06] <logy> so you are using a usb adapter for internet....
[13:06] <_ynk> logy: no. just to clarify I am not a newbie and I know what I'm doing, however for some reason it won't be recognized and that's what I want to figure out
[13:06] <ash123> well i did get a wireless PCI card when i built the computer but it never worked
[13:06] <_ynk> logy: and no boot options on this pc. It's an old one :-/
[13:06] <ash123> so i gave in to a usb adapter
[13:07] <_ynk> logy: however you gave me an idea, I'll try another burner maybe :-o
[13:07] <logy> _ynk ok, in boot setup you should have another option, can be but must not be in the boot menu, which allows you to buut via usb network controller, eneable it, I had to do that on my old pentium 4
[13:07] <_ynk> logy: cus I recall usign some crappy software haha
[13:08] <logy> ok can you tell me the info about that usb adapter
[13:08] <logy> _ynk on what system are you now windows or ubuntu
[13:08] <_ynk> logy: ubuntu
[13:09] <logy> just use unetbootin, should be enough
[13:09] <ash123> logy what do you want to know? model number is TL-WN821N
[13:09] <ash123> manufacturer is TP-link
[13:09] <logy> ash123 ok that is what i wanted to know, when you log into ubuntu do you have internet via Lan cable?
[13:10] <ash123> i dont, router is too far away for a cable that long
[13:11] <ash123> no worries though, I can try what was recommended thought (sudo iwconfig wlan0 modulation 11g)
[13:11] <ash123> though*
[13:11] <Thomas86> hi all
[13:12] <Thomas86> i have a problem perhaps somebody can help or give a tip
[13:12] <Thomas86> i have two virtual linux vms
[13:12] <nomic> virtualbox?
[13:12] <Thomas86> i want to know if th path /opt/filex of vm1 have the same content
[13:12] <Thomas86> yes
[13:12] <Thomas86> (files and folders) like vm2
[13:12] <Thomas86> what opportunities are there to compare the content of the vms?
[13:12] <logy> ash123 when you go to ubuntu, put the lan cable so you have internet and open terminal and type " sudo use aptitude update && aptitude install firmware-atheros"
[13:13] <nomic> they're separate disks unless they are networked
[13:13] <nomic> totally seperate filing systems
[13:13] <ash123> my usb adapter needs new atheros firmware? does it definitely use it?
[13:13] <ash123> my OS i mean
[13:14] <Thomas86> any ideas?
[13:14] <logy> yes i just check it, that wifi card had problem with linux since  ubuntu 10
[13:14] <nomic> vms are separate machines with separate filing systems
[13:15] <ash123> ah ok
[13:15] <logy> anyone know a remastersys alternative?
[13:16] <Thomas86> nomic: i know
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> nomic  if you don't get an answer here, type /j #vbox
[13:16] <Thomas86> but i want compare the content of a special folder on two different machines
[13:17] <ash123> logy I am just wondering, how did you check that a specific usb adapter is compatible with Atheros?
[13:17] <nomic> you need a network
[13:17] <nomic> you use cmp to compare files
[13:17] <nomic> cmp file 1 file2
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> Thomas86   if you don't get an answer here, type /j #vbox
[13:17] <Thomas86> monkeydust: thanks for the info
[13:18] <logy> ash123 http://www.linux-hardware-guide.com/2012-10-20-tp-link-tl-wn821n-wlan-usb-300-mbit
[13:18] <Thomas86> but i think this problem is not about vbox ;-)
[13:18] <logy> seems like many people had problems with it like you
[13:18] <ash123> thanks
[13:19] <sennn> what is juniperberry.canonical.com for?
[13:20] <calvinb> can i load things that require kernel modules on a persistent usb disk?
[13:21] <asik> hey guys i have a question, does adding repositories make your pc slow? like in windows installing software?
[13:21] <sennn> what is juniperberry.canonical.com for?
[13:22] <Thomas86> ok got the problem solved whit diff
[13:22] <Thomas86> cu
[13:22] <asakapab0i> Nope it only execute when you use it.
[13:23] <spearhead> asik, adding repositories does not slow down your computer, all that does is add a line to a file and add another file. installing programs on the other hand might. With any computer the more programs that are running the slower it will be.
[13:24] <asik> thx :D
[13:24] <asakapab0i> Try typing top in cli and check what process are running.
[13:25] <asik> also guys when i press the unity button, the button at the top left corner and start typing something (example libre office) it starts the search on internet too, how can i turn that internet search off?
[13:25] <sennn> what is juniperberry.canonical.com for?
[13:25] <spearhead> !patience | sennn
[13:25] <asakapab0i> Uncheck some things in the filter.
[13:26] <sennn> ok
[13:26] <asakapab0i> Search bar also search for internet. To remove it find the filter and uncheck them.
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> sennn  searches only returned some windows7 VPN results, it's in no way ubuntu related
[13:27] <fidrawang> Hi u all
[13:27] <Seveas> sennn: it's one of canonical's servers. Why do you need to know what it's for?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> asik: imstallimg software in Windows doesnt automatically make it slow
[13:28] <asakapab0i> ls
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> asik: remove the shopping lens
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> !shoppimg
 because my computer always send NTP to this server
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> !shopping
 is that normal?
[13:29] <popey> that factoid is still wrong ☹
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> popey: you can suggest something else to the maintainer....
[13:30] <popey> yeah, i thought i did
  no ,it is a server
[13:32] <unik> good morning usa....
[13:32] <sennn> what is NTP?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> sennn: network time protocol
[13:33] <sennn> what ntp for?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> sennn: make sure systems have the same time
[13:33] <PROJAK_SX> syncing time
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> sennn: from a central source
[13:33] <sennn> thanks for your answer
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> sennn: not worked in IT I guess
[13:34] <Seveas> sennn: yes, that is normal.
[13:34] <sennn> thanks
[13:37] <rom1504> unik: watching american dad ?
[13:38] <unik> rom1504: i'm just wake up
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> unik  rom1504 this is the support channel, #ubuntu-offtopic for nice social chat, please
[13:39] <rom1504> olol
[13:39] <rom1504> you should do a bot for this too, like the language forbidden bot thing
[13:40] <rom1504> (but fine)
[13:40] <Seveas> !ot
[13:41] <Avnish> just playing with with tcpdump
[13:41] <Avnish> analyzing irc packets
[13:42] <Seveas> Avnish: rfc 1459/2812
[13:42] <daftykins> Avnish: that is completely irrelevant to this channel, please take it elsewhere until you come up with an ubuntu support question
[13:42] <Avnish> oh sorry... i will leave
[13:42] <Avnish> thanks Seveas
[13:43] <brontosaurusrex> sennn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Time_Protocol
[13:44] <sennn> thanks
[13:50] <vitimiti> hi
[13:50] <daftykins> greetings
[13:50] <daftykins> if you have a question, ask it
[13:52] <vitimiti> daftykins, not right now, I'm fine
[13:58] <raven737> hi, question, does ubuntu support intel rapid storage (RST) such that I can get some kind of management tool working?
[13:59] <bajin-lee> hi
[14:00] <Oscar> lol
[14:01] <bajin-lee> how to find my file received from bluetooth
[14:01] <ezio> how do i get gdb pretty printer
[14:01] <bajin-lee> i can not find them
[14:01] <daftykins> raven737: i think you refer to the wrong tech, perhaps you mean an alternative to the matrix storage manager
[14:03] <vitimiti> bajin-lee, if you know the name of the file, you could find it with the command "find"
[14:03] <bajin-lee> yeah
[14:03] <raven737> daftykins: yes
[14:03] <bajin-lee> thanks,vitimiti
[14:04] <raven737> daftykins: so i should try the matrix storage manager?
[14:04] <daftykins> raven737: intel's RAID tends to not work directly i think, so it tends to be mdadm or similar people use instead which means the kernel gives management directly
[14:04] <daftykins> raven737: you're going about RAID under Linux the wrong way, ultimately
[14:06] <raven737> daftykins: I know, not trying to do raid in intel. My windows raid just failed and the bios tools don't help me as far as i see so i booted ubuntu in the hope i can fix it from there (force drived online, it failed after power outage, i am fairly sure the drives are ok)
[14:06] <ezio> anyone know the package for python libstdc++
[14:07] <Mithrildar> Is there an easy way to copy files to /usr/local/ without messing up all owners and permissions for projects without make install?
[14:07] <daftykins> raven737: does the Intel RAID manager BIOS show the volume as degraded?
[14:08] <xcalibur> hola
[14:08] <raven737> daftykins: well, it shows all drives as "member drive offline"
[14:09] <shashwat> I followed instructions from here [ http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx ], I am trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 on late 2011 Macbook pro.  When I boot the machine, it says "Operating system not found".
[14:09] <raven737> daftykins: not exactly failed i guess, sounds like i could somehow make them online again it it might work
[14:09] <raven737> daftykins: dmraid might work?
[14:10] <raven737> daftykins: oh god i don't know my root password ><
[14:11] <daftykins> raven737: i'm not 100% sure you can just fire up Linux and see the Windows based setup as it was
[14:12] <Mithrildar> You shouldn't know your root password, just use su or sudo to do stuff as root
[14:12] <raven737> daftykins: i guess, i will try to install on a new drive and try the intel management utilities
[14:13] <raven737> Mithrildar: yes, su asks for password, i set this up, it's my fault ><
[14:13] <daftykins> raven737: apparently dmraid would be the one, but you're risking your data i'd say. so i'd have the two drives imaged up onto another disk as a backup before trying anything
[14:13] <raven737> daftykins: good idea, thank you
[14:13] <daftykins> raven737: give clonezilla a go perhaps
[14:14] <daftykins> not sure if that's the right name now, hrmm
[14:14] <raven737> daftykins: ok, thank you. Hmm, the drives are fairly small, I would like to image them into files so that I can restore from those files if needed
[14:14] <Mithrildar> Raven737 that's the password of your account, not of the root account afaik
[14:15] <Mithrildar> Haven't used su in ages though, su is evil
[14:15] <ax562> anyone have any experience over clocking ubuntu systems?  12.04 LTS 64-Bit
[14:15] <raven737> Mithrildar: ah, thank you
[14:16] <daftykins> ax562: overclocking is OS independant
[14:16] <raven737> daftykins: yes, clonezilla seems to be the one
[14:16] <pdo_fn14> Mithrildar: You talking about su is endangering some security aspects?.
[14:17] <Mithrildar> Yes
[14:18] <ax562> daftykins: I am unable to accomplish over clock in linux/ubuntu.  OC processor is independent but communication from user to cpu is os dependent.
[14:18] <sivarjun> hello guys how do i use my ubuntu laptop as a hotspot while its already connected to wifi, im not using ethernet
[14:18] <raven737> daftykins & Mithrildar  thanks for the help
[14:18] <daftykins> ax562: communication? you don't overclock with OS tools ;)
[14:18] <daftykins> you can, but nobody serious does
[14:19] <daftykins> ax562: anyway, this is more relevant conversation for #hardware / ##hardware - not here, as that's not ubuntu support
[14:19] <ax562> daftykins: you use specific linux based modules to accomplish writing to registers.
[14:19] <daftykins> that has nothing to do with overclocking
[14:20] <sivarjun>  how do i use my ubuntu laptop as a hotspot while its already connected to wifi, im not using ethernet
[14:20] <daftykins> sivarjun: you likely can't unless your wireless adapter has multiple streams
[14:20] <daftykins> why would you share wireless to wireless? you'd just let the other device connect to wireless too? :)
[14:20] <ax562> I'm not trying to get into of what is/what isn't.  If #hardware is the place to go I would appreciate confirmation.  I'm surprised no one has oc in ubuntu.
[14:21] <sivarjun> cuz wireless is user login only and only one device can use it at a time
[14:21] <sivarjun> im able to do it windows via mhotspot
[14:21] <daftykins> ax562: i believe you don't understand how overclocking works at all, because it doesn't have any relevance to the OS at all. i don't recall if the channel is single or double #, i am not going to check for you
[14:22] <daftykins> sivarjun: i think i've heard of hostapd before for ubuntu / Linux
[14:22] <ax562> daftykins: OC is writing to certain registers and changing hex values to certain registers.
[14:23] <ax562> multiplier values.
[14:23] <daftykins> only if you're using OS tools to do it, which isn't the only way
[14:23] <ax562> thanks for that.
[14:24] <ax562> well I could mount my cpu to a specific communication dev tool but why on earth would I do that.
[14:26] <knob> Guys, using Nautilus, when I try to Connect to a Server ( sftp://ip.add.ress)       I get an error message saying "Oops! Something went wrong. Don't have permission to access the requested location"
[14:26] <knob> Any idea what could be going on?
[14:28] <daftykins> sftp://user:pass@address/ ?
[14:28] <knob> daftykins, trying that now
[14:28] <daftykins> i wouldn't do so graphically though
[14:28] <daftykins> i'd scp
[14:29] <knob> Bash: No such file or directory.
[14:29] <knob> I.. wow
[14:30] <daftykins> knob: how did BASH come into it?
[14:30] <knob> I don't know man... I...
[14:30] <knob> sorry man
[14:31] <knob> I just ran with FileZilla and it worked... so I am going to go with that.
[14:31] <knob> Thanks :)
[14:43] <Basketball> in kingsoft office how can i have it not boot to the online templates page
[14:45] <brontosaurusrex> daftykins: its probably 'sftp user@host'
[14:45] <daftykins> brontosaurusrex: he was doing it via nautlius, not command line
[14:45] <samthewildone> I'm having a problem putting a file on my usb. > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_rZKP9LDqUFOUZ4dmY4UjMxbDg/edit?usp=sharing
[14:46] <brontosaurusrex> oh
[14:46] <samthewildone> It's a 16GB USB and the file is about 4.5GB and the drive is empty.
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> Basketball  this would be a better place to ask, i guess http://www.wps.com/support/
[14:46] <daftykins> samthewildone: the file system on your flash drive doesn't support greater than 4GB files
[14:46] <samthewildone> fat32 ?
[14:46] <k1l_> samthewildone: fat can only take 4GB files
[14:46] <daftykins> samthewildone: you're going to need to format it with a file system that does, like exFAT
[14:46] <samthewildone> oh
[14:46] <daftykins> or NTFS
[14:47] <samthewildone> which is better ?
[14:47] <daftykins> there is no better, only what works
[14:47] <daftykins> depends what OS you're copying from and to
[14:47] <samthewildone> Linux -> Linux | Linux -> Windows
[14:48] <brontosaurusrex> samthewildone: i'd go with ntfs
[14:48] <k1l_> samthewildone: use ntfs
[14:48] <k1l_> not the fastest but it will work
[14:48] <samthewildone> I'm trying to mount it via gparted but, get a error.
[14:48] <daftykins> samthewildone: you don't mount it to format it
[14:48] <samthewildone> Partition 1 isn't aligned to cylinder boundaries.  This is still unsupported.
[14:48] <daftykins> samthewildone: go format it on the windows PC as NTFS
[14:48] <daftykins> simplest method
[14:48] <samthewildone> err I meant its mounted but, I cannot get into the settings
[14:49] <samthewildone> ...
[14:49] <samthewildone> what if I don't have a windows computer ?
[14:49] <ash123> Hello
[14:49] <ash123> I am back
[14:49] <ash123> I am trying to use "sudo use aptitude update && aptitude install firmware-atheros" in the Terminal but it is saying that 'use' is not a valid command
[14:49] <ash123> Can anyone help?
[14:49] <daftykins> samthewildone: then you're in for more work
[14:50] <samthewildone> lol I have a windows computer
[14:50] <samthewildone> I'll brb'
[14:50] <daftykins> ash123: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install aptitude"
[14:50] <k1l_> ash123: remove the "use" in that command
[14:50] <daftykins> samthewildone: i knew you did, i knew you were just being lazy :)
[14:50] <ash123> will it still install the atheros-firmware I need for my usb adapter?
[14:50] <mn2010> samthewildone: if you didnt have a windows computer, you would just format it in gparted.
[14:51] <k1l_> ash123: aptitude is not installed per default on ubuntu.
[14:51] <daftykins> mn2010: that's what he was just trying before running into errors, you'd see that if you scrolled up one screen or two
[14:51] <ash123> oh ok, i am a bit confused between this 'aptitude' and 'atheros-firmware'
[14:51] <ash123> i know i need atheros-firmware for my particular usb adapter
[14:51] <minimec> ash123: There is no firmware-atheros package in current ubuntu distributions anymore, even though that would give you a different error I guess... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=firmware-atheros&searchon=names
[14:52] <ash123> oh ok
[14:52] <ash123> so is this 'aptitude' used for USB adapters (wifi)?
[14:52] <k1l_> ash123: "aptitude" is a program you install packages from the ubuntu repos. the ubuntu standard is "apt-get" which is installed. so you can make "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firmware-atheros
[14:52] <k1l_> ash123: no.
[14:52] <ash123> oh ok
[14:52] <mn2010> kvirc has been being a pain lately
[14:52] <k1l_> aptitude is not related for your wifi stuff anyway
[14:52] <minimec> ash123: alternative to apt-get to manage the package system
[14:53] <ash123> ah i see
[14:53] <k1l_> ash123: see my last command. use this
[14:53] <mn2010> i couldnt scroll, it was beyond my join message
[14:53] <ash123> right then, i will need to boot back into ubuntu (cant get a stable internet connection for more than 5 seconds at the moment) and try what you said
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> ash123  apt-get ... apt-itude ... syn-apt-ic ... that's the pun ... apt = advanced package tool
[14:54] <ash123> i see
[14:54] <maniteja> Hi my laptop losses wifi connection all the time lease help
[14:54] <pin> hi
[14:54] <ash123> i will be back shortly
[14:55] <pin> oke
[14:55] <pin> where are you come from
[14:55] <maniteja> India
[14:55] <pin> wow
[14:55] <pin> im from indonesia
[14:55] <maniteja> Cool
[14:56] <pin> what os do you use maniteja>
[14:56] <maniteja> So any idea about my problem
[14:56] <maniteja> Ubuntu 14.04
[14:56] <pin> ok ok.. im use backbox linux
[14:57] <maniteja> Ohhh
[14:57] <name_> Hello! Does anybody know what the command for starting up the so-called Zorin menu in AWN is?
[14:57] <unik> I don't like u14.04 unity...
[14:57] <spidersenses> guys i got a problem, after installing steam, day of defeat source and counter strike source. The restarting my machine a login screen appears (no login screen appeared before). When i put my login name and pw the little login box turns white and nothing happens. if i hit the esc the login box resets. what's the problem?
[14:57] <pin> why you dont like
[14:57] <spidersenses> i got ubuntu 13.10
[14:57] <k1l_> name_: well, i would suggest to ask the zorin guys
[14:58] <pin> what is zorin
[14:58] <k1l_> spidersenses: make first sure you update to 14.04
[14:58] <k1l_> !zorin
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> spidersenses  13.10 is no longer supported, upgrade first, then ask again
[14:58] <name_> @kil_ I did, but the channel isnt very frequented.
[14:58] <daftykins> pin: a different distribution based on ubuntu
[14:58] <maniteja> I just love ubuntu but the wifi issue so bad
[14:58] <k1l_> pin: zorin is a not supported spin off from ubuntu. like the backbox you use
[14:58] <pin> i love backbox linux :D
[14:58] <maniteja> it looses wifi all the time
[14:59] <spidersenses> ok thaks k1l
[14:59] <daftykins> pin: general chat is not appropriate here, please join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat. support questions only in here
[14:59] <pin> why not supported kil_ ?
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> !eol | pin
[15:00] <k1l_> !derivates | pin
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> oops, wrong factoid
[15:00] <daftykins> i was going to say.
[15:01] <maniteja> Some one please help i just moved from win8 to ubuntu it absolutley stunning and i love it it sound great looks great feels great no load on mem and cpu except for the wifi
[15:01] <maniteja> it looses connection all the time
[15:01] <k1l_> maniteja: give more details: what ubuntu exactly? what wifi chip? etc etc
[15:01] <maniteja> Ubuntu 14.04
[15:02] <maniteja> chip is Ralink
[15:02] <maniteja> i guess
[15:02] <k1l_> "lspci" in terminal will tell you exactly
[15:02] <maniteja> ok
[15:03] <maniteja> Network controller: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[15:05] <maniteja> Network controller: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[15:06] <maniteja> this is chip
[15:06] <daftykins> maniteja: you need to prefix each response with the nickname of who was helping you so they can respond
[15:06] <daftykins> k1l_: ^
[15:06] <Mrokii> Hello, not directly Ubuntu-related, but can somebody tell me how I can stop Thunderbird and Firefox from creating crash reports?
[15:07] <daftykins> Mrokii: in the settings, turn off... crash reports
[15:07] <k1l_> maniteja: well, seems like this chip is a problem at all
[15:07] <maniteja> k1l_: So it is the hardware that is faulty?
[15:08] <k1l_> maniteja: that is the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1049466  see command 177 and 178 which seem to be a solution
[15:08] <topdownjimmy> I can't seem to connect to IRC, either with Irssi or with WeeChat. I think it's a failure to connect to port 6667, though I can't imagine what's preventing this. Any ideas?
[15:09] <daftykins> topdownjimmy: please refer to #freenode
[15:09] <maniteja> k1l_: thank you so much will try the fix and will let you know
[15:09] <topdownjimmy> daftykins: I also can't connect to efnet.
[15:10] <Poppabear> topdownjimmy: why, you glined ?
[15:10] <topdownjimmy> Poppabear: I doubt it
[15:10] <topdownjimmy> I can connect via a MacBook on the same network and with the same username
[15:10] <Mrokii> daftykins: I haven't found such a setting in Thunderbird at least.
[15:11] <topdownjimmy> It's just timing out.
[15:11] <k1l_> topdownjimmy: make sure the router is setup properly and not blocking /forwarding ports to another lan client
[15:12] <daftykins> topdownjimmy: sounds like network connectivity issues. DNS and general online functionality with websites good, besides the IRC clients issues?
[15:12] <daftykins> topdownjimmy: outdated server names used in the clients maybe?
[15:12] <topdownjimmy> daftykins: Yeah everything else seems fine.
[15:12] <topdownjimmy> daftykins: I've reset the settings in both WeeChat and Irssi and still timing out
[15:13] <daftykins> topdownjimmy: right so what hostnames are they configured to hit for freenode?
[15:14] <topdownjimmy> I've tried dickson.freenode.net and just plain freenode.net
[15:14] <maniteja> k1l_: i have already tried this solution it definetley reduced the problem a bit but its not gone completely i still loose connection may be i will buy a new powerfull router may that will fix the issue
[15:14] <daftykins> topdownjimmy: some are down since the recent hacks and i don't know which, visit freenode's website and use their proper round-robin hostname, something like chat.freenode.net
[15:15] <Wryness> Hi. I need a function or script to delete a dash from the beginning of a line in a text file but only if the dash is the first character in a line. Does anybody have an idea how to achiev that (perhaps with grep, awk or sed)?
[15:15] <topdownjimmy> daftykins: Ha, argh, :slaps forehead:, chat.freenode.net did it. Thanks!!
[15:16] <daftykins> topdownjimmy: so #freenode would've assisted after all ;)
[15:16] <daftykins> nevermind, enjoy
[15:16] <topdownjimmy> :shakes fist:
[15:16] <topdownjimmy> Thanks
[15:25] <MagicSpud> hello trying to compile snapscreenshot it wont install anybody could tell how to fix it? http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=77460
[15:28] <MagicSpud> well I just mkdir /usr/local/man/man1 and I think that worked
[15:29] <rtdos> not sure where i should be asking this here or in a another channel, but i've got python 2x installed (as default) on both FEDORA as well as including UBUNTU and since 2x seems to still be the default in many distro's, how can i make python 3x the default (i.e. when i type python rather than python3)? hope i'm making sense here.
[15:32] <name_> @rtdos If you compile it from source ive read somewhere that by installing it with "make install" it automatically will be the default one.
[15:33] <daftykins> name_: we don't advise compiling software over packages, here
[15:33] <name_> Also, you can put: alias python=python3   into .bashrc or .bash_aliases
[15:33] <name_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/320996/make-default-python-command-to-use-python-3
[15:34] <name_> @daftykins: I see, sorry.
[15:34] <bazhang> !checkinstall | name_
[15:35] <geirha> yeah, overriding alias or function is the safest. Scripts may brake if you change the version of /usr/bin/python
[15:35] <geirha> gah, *break
[15:37] <geirha> python 3.x is not fully backward compatible with python 2.x
[15:37] <name_> BTW can somebody tell me why there are multiple instances of the same python binary file in /usr/bin?
[15:37] <name_> Its a total waste of space, just to have it under different names.
[15:38] <geirha> name_: what?
[15:38] <ax562> no luck on the oc
[15:38] <geirha> name_: symlinks doesn't take up much space ...
[15:38] <name_> If everyone follows this strategy i understand why OS-es are so damn chunky.
[15:39] <name_> Is it a symlink?
[15:39] <rtdos> thanks, name_
[15:39] <name_> They all show as binary files and the size is shown as the same, too.
[15:40] <name_> rtdos np, i just came across this thread today anyway.
[15:40] <gioan> #
[15:41] <geirha> name_: odd, python and python2 are symlinks to python2.7 here
[15:41] <fecwre> with iptables, how do i specify `if not <source ip>`?
[15:42] <name_> @geirha im using ZorinOS, maybe showing them ax binary files sized 3.3 MB each is some kind of bug.
[15:42] <name_> *showing them as...
[15:43] <geirha> name_: Well this is #ubuntu ...  anyway, may be they're hard links in that OS. ls -i should tell you if they are
[15:44] <name_> Really? ok, ill try.
[15:44] <geirha> they'll have the same inode number
[15:47] <name_> Well, output is: *263491 python* for *ls -i python*, simply *python2* for *ls -i python2* but with different color and next *python2.7* again in a third, different color.
[15:50] <geirha> colors doesn't tell me much.  try:   command ls -il /usr/bin/python{,2,2.7}
[15:50] <geirha> command in order to avoid any alias or function you may have for ls
[15:52] <zin3> Hello, I'm having problems trying to change my dns number
[15:53] <zin3> I created a post on ubuntu forums, if someone could help I would be eternally grateful =)
[15:53] <zin3> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2245138&p=13126340#post13126340
[15:54] <name_> geirha, well, the numbers are different for them.
[15:55] <name_> the output is: 263491 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root       9 zář 21 10:29 /usr/bin/python -> python2.7
[15:55] <name_> 263492 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root       9 zář 21 10:29 /usr/bin/python2 -> python2.7
[15:55] <name_> 263493 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3349512 bře 23  2014 /usr/bin/python2.7
[15:55] <name_> No kidding, even the funny accented characters are there!
[15:55] <harley642> hey, does anyone have any experience setting up zentyal in esxi?
[15:55] <harley642> Mainly related to networking issues
[15:56] <geirha> name_: symlinks, just like in ubuntu
[15:56] <geirha> the L in lrwxrwxrwx
[15:58] <camtron> Is there a way to make Chrome's window buttons be on the right in GNOME shell, without having to check "Use system title bar and border"? In other distros, Chrome's window buttons are on the right.
[15:58] <name_> I see, thanks. I'm relieved!
[15:58] <geirha> name_: where the funny accented characters are, they should be a representation of the month name in your language. If they look odd, your terminal emulator and locale have mismatch of character encodings
[16:00] <name_> Well, i never bother to give my real location when i install linux but i always set the language to be english,
[16:00] <geirha> name_: does running ''locale'' agree with that?
[16:01] <name_> Probably not because the locale is set as Prague or something...
[16:01] <name_> Thus the slavish characters.
[16:02] <geirha> Well, if zář is a correct month abbreviation in that language, then all is good
[16:04] <owen1> i have an app with this line in it's config file: connect = host=/var/run/postgresql. i assume it's the binary of postgresql. is this the path to the binary: /usr/lib/postgresql/9.3/bin/postgres ?
[16:06] <geirha> owen1: no, it's a socket created by postgresql
[16:06] <owen1> geirha: oh. how do i find the binary?
[16:06] <designbybeck_> In Ubuntu 14.04 64bit My Wacom tablet can plug and play, I have to restart before it sees it again. This use to not be the case. Any ideas?
[16:09] <funkster> How can i set my resolution to a fixed size on boot? xorg file and xrandr are a bit confusing. can anyone assist?
[16:09] <geirha> owen1: /usr/lib/postgresql/9.3/bin/postgres is the executable, and /var/run/postgresql is a socket
[16:09] <daftykins> owen1: "which <program>" ?
[16:09] <geirha> hm. Or maybe I'm mixing things
[16:10] <geirha> no, not "which", use "type", never "which"
[16:11] <pras> hi .. my boot folder is almost full.. and i have tried deleting old kernals using synaptic & Ubuntu tweak. but there are other files which which is not getting listed in either application
[16:11] <k1l_> pras: please show a "ls -al /boot" in pastebin please
[16:11] <pras> i have ubuntu 14.04  32 bit system
[16:12] <camtron> geirha: What's the difference? I've always used 'which'.
[16:12] <name_> Seeya!
[16:12] <daftykins> geirha: to locate the binary? that's what which is for...
[16:12] <mn2010> -_-
[16:13] <geirha> camtron: which is a shell scripts that look through PATH for an executable. type tells you what actually gets run
[16:13] <geirha> camtron: that is, type will tell you if it's a shell builtin, shell keyword, function or alias. which will not.
[16:14] <daftykins> ah interesting
[16:16] <owen1> geirha: type postgres => ash: type: postgres: not found
[16:16] <camtron> Oh, I see, so type tells you that 'ls' is aliased to 'ls --color=auto'. 'which' just simply tells you the path of ls.
[16:17] <owen1> geirha: i think the binary is here - /usr/lib/postgresql/9.3/bin like u said earlier
[16:17] <geirha> anyway, just checked, /var/run/postgres is a directory, typically holding the pid file and a socket when postgres is running
[16:18] <ParanoidAndroid> salve
[16:19] <ParanoidAndroid> dani
[16:19] <daftykins> !it
[16:19] <geirha> owen1: yes, but that should be irrelevant. Why do you need to know that?
 http://pastebin.com/CPDkDJdj
[16:20] <ParanoidAndroid> thanks
[16:20] <daftykins> pras: oh my word you have hundreds of kernels
[16:21] <geirha> 15 is hundreds now?
[16:21] <pras> i am not a well versed in linux ... so any help is great
[16:21] <daftykins> pras: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.5.0-17-generic linux-image-3.5.0-25-generic linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic linux-image-3.5.0-28-generic linux-image-3.5.0-29-generic
[16:21] <daftykins> geirha: don't be a pedant
[16:22] <k1l_> pras: ok that is a lot. please show a "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"
[16:22] <geirha> daftykins: :)
[16:23] <pras> http://pastebin.com/jig0et45
[16:23] <pras> that is what i get for apt-get remove
[16:24] <daftykins> pras: ah ok weird, my fault for barging in on someone elses ticket, feel free to do as k1l_ instructed :)
[16:24] <daftykins> k1l_: apologies
 :http://pastebin.com/nu7dmHF6
[16:25] <puff> Good afternoon.  Lately I've been having all sorts of problems with chrome.  At first it was that if I left chrome running with a couple dozen tabs open in different windows,I'd come back and chrome would be chewing up 99% cpu.  I tried creating a new user profile (which appears to be standard advice for chrome problems) and now literally every third or fourth page I get the "aw snap!" error page.  I restored the old user profile and
[16:25] <puff> it's still the same.  I removed/reinstalled chrome and it's still the same.
[16:25] <puff> Did my question get truncated?
[16:26] <k1l_> pras: that are the only ones?
[16:26] <DJones> puff: No, not truncated as far as I can see
[16:26] <pras> k1l_ : yes
[16:27] <puff> DJones: Thanks.,
[16:27] <geirha> pras: Do you perhaps have a /boot partition shared with other OSes?
[16:28] <pras> geirha:i have a windows 7 ... but i have not been able to boot in to ever since i upgraded to 1404
[16:28] <owen1> geirha: there is a config file with this line: connect = host=/var/run/postgresql user=postgresuser dbname=readeefdbname (https://github.com/urandom/readeef/blob/master/README.md) so i assume it's the binary. thoughts?
[16:30] <geirha> owen1: /var/run/postgresql is NOT the binary, no. Why would you think that?
[16:30] <owen1> geirha: oh. so what is it?
[16:31] <k1l_> pras: does "sudo apt-get autoremove" remove some not used packages?
[16:32] <geirha> owen1: When connecting to a remote postgresql server, you usually connect via a tcp socket
[16:32] <pras> k1l_: how do i test it ??
[16:32] <daftykins> pras: just run that command
[16:32] <geirha> owen1: When connecting to a local postgresql server, you usually connect via a unix socket. It's saying that said unix socket can be found in the given dir
[16:32] <k1l_> pras: yep, just run it
[16:33] <geirha> owen1: ls -la /var/run/postgresql
[16:33] <pras> Reading package lists... Done
[16:33] <pras> Building dependency tree
[16:33] <pras> Reading state information... Done
[16:33] <pras> 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
[16:33] <daftykins> !paste
[16:33] <camtron> How can you add items to Ubuntu's "System Settings" (gnome-control-center)?
[16:34] <camtron> I want to be able to access unity-tweak-tool and ccsm through System Settings.
[16:34] <k1l_> pras: hmm. are you sure the "dpkg -l | linux-image" results are the only ones? there must be way more than this 4 lines
[16:34] <owen1> geirha: i see 9.3-main.pid and .s.PGSQL.5432 and .s.PGSQL.5432.lock  the pid is the unix socket?
[16:35] <pras> those are the only ones
[16:35] <geirha> owen1: no, the one with s in the first column is the socket. --> srwxrwxrwx  1 postgres ...
[16:36] <pras> k1l_:those are the only ones
[16:36] <owen1> geirha: oh. so 's' stand for socket.
[16:36] <geirha> s in the first column means (unix) socket, - means regular file, d means directory etc...
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> camtron  is this useful (12.10) http://www.bestubuntu.com/add-custom-items-to-system-settings-window-in-ubuntu-12-10.html
[16:36] <k1l_> pras: than something more is broken on your system. i get 51 lines on my system
[16:36] <owen1> so when a program want to connect to the db it accesses the socket file?
[16:36] <k1l_> pras: please install "pastebinit" and run this command: "dpkg -l | grep linux-image | pastebinit" it will show a link that you can copy to here
[16:37] <pras> k1l_: ok
[16:38] <k1l_> pras: daftykins i need to leave in the next 5 mins. so if you want to take over that support issue that would be great.
[16:38] <daftykins> k1l_: will do, cya soon
[16:39] <pras> k1l_: thank you
[16:39] <daftykins> pras: if you're absolutely certain you have no other OS installs besides ubuntu 14.04 and Windows, you might as well just delete some of these older kernels (or for safety, move the files to another path that does have space so they're not causing you a problem)
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> camtron  the howto I suggested works, just tried
[16:41] <camtron> Thanks, MonkeyDust.
[16:42] <pras> daftykins: yes i am sure i have only onle Ubuntu & a Windows partition . i have tried deleting and moving it using the file manager but unsucessfull
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> camtron  next time, i'll try first, then suggest ;)
[16:43] <daftykins> pras: ok lets be devils, run this "sudo rm /boot/initrd.img-3.5* "
[16:44] <pras> daftykins: nothing happened
[16:44] <daftykins> pras: that's a good thing, it won't tell you :) that will have saved 60MB
[16:44] <daftykins> pras: ok now run this "sudo rm /boot/initrd.img-3.8* "
[16:45] <pras> daftykins: same nothing
[16:46] <daftykins> pras: like i just said it won't tell you anything for just deleting files, the command completes and it returns to the prompt
[16:46] <daftykins> pras: now run "df -h" and see how much space is free on /boot
[16:46] <pras> daftykins: yes
[16:47] <pras> daftykins: i have 54% left
[16:47] <pras> daftykins: thats great
[16:47] <camtron> MonkeyDust: It works for me!
[16:48] <daftykins> pras: cool, that should be enough to be getting on with - though you can definitely delete the rest of the 3.5 and 3.8 files
[16:48] <pras> daftykins: delete using file manager ??
[16:49] <daftykins> pras: to do it graphically you would have to run nautilus with gksudo, all you have to do is look at your pastebin - http://pastebin.com/CPDkDJdj - and delete the files you don't need
[16:49] <faust> Silly question time: in the LVM man it says that I can use several sub-fixes when specifying the "--size" option to "lvcreate". For example it says that "M" stands for "megabytes". Are they actual megabytes or mebibytes?
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> mebibytes?
[16:50] <daftykins> mibibytes i think you mean there
[16:50] <daftykins> pras: e.g. before we deleted the largest of them, the initrd.img's, but now you can delete the rest, e.g. start with the abi's
[16:50] <daftykins> pras: "sudo rm /boot/abi-3.5* " and "sudo rm /boot/abi-3.8* "
[16:50] <faust> daftykins: I mean mebibyte
[16:50] <faust> s*
[16:51] <sleipnir> morning all, I was wondering if it is possible to boot multiple PCs from a single USB stick. that is I want to have several machines that do NOT boot unless a USB stick is inserted. Is this possible? If so what keywords do I search for?
[16:51] <daftykins> faust: oh they're the same.
[16:51] <faust> MonkeyDust: Yes, I mean. Is it the "mega" intended as Nth power of 10 or Nth power of 2?
[16:52] <faust> daftykins: ok
[16:52] <daftykins> both mean base 2
[16:53] <pras> daftykins: that got me a lot of space
[16:53] <pras> daftykins: thank you very much
[16:53] <daftykins> pras: now repeat for config- System.map- and vmlinuz- ok?
[16:54] <pras> daftykins: yes i will
[16:56] <faust> daftykins: megabyte mean base 10 according to IEC
[16:56] <daftykins> faust: yes, yes i know. we were referring to mibibytes and mebibytes
[16:57] <faust> and SI
[16:57] <faust> daftykins: ah ok
[16:58] <faust> however I'm interested in what does "megabytes" mean according to LVM team, nobody knows? :P
[16:58] <daftykins> nope someone would've replied
[16:58] <daftykins> faust: #linux might be a better place to ask too
[16:58] <faust> ok thanks
[16:59] <faust> #linux seems to be +i o.o
[16:59] <Fuchs> it is +if
[16:59] <Fuchs> so you get forwarded to ##linux
[16:59] <Fuchs> join that instead
[16:59] <faust> Fuchs: thank you
[16:59] <Fuchs> You're welcome
[17:01] <pras> daftykins: thank you very much
[17:01] <daftykins> no problem
[17:01] <pras> daftykins: have a great day ahead
[17:02] <daftykins> ty, you too :)
[17:03] <pras> daftykins: thank you once again
[17:17] <nemo> So. I completely screwed up my SO's home setup for doing audio work after the upgrade from 13.10 (unsupported) to 14.04.
[17:17] <nemo> The problem was gstreamer 0.1 playing of realmedia files
[17:17] <kernix> hey all
[17:17] <nemo> even after installing ubuntu-restricted-extras, I was still kinda stuck
[17:18] <nemo> looks like it plays fine in gstreamer 1.0 apps
[17:18] <nemo> if anyone has any ideas for what I should do to unbreaker it ☹
[17:18] <nemo> I'm kinda flailing
[17:19] <alipoor90> Hi , What are refresh,retry,expire,min TTL values for SOA record ? are they default values for entire zone or just for SOA record it self? and what is purpose of SOA record? do it is just to provide support email address or there is anything else?
[17:20] <nemo> here's a sample fail http://m8y.org/tmp/gstwtf.txt
[17:20] <daftykins> alipoor90: this is not a DNS / hosting support channel
[17:21] <nemo> gstreamer channel guys said missing codec, but... I'm unclear why the decoding would work in 1.0 but not 0.1
[17:21] <nemo> surely they'd use the same codec
[17:21] <nemo> and the gst 0.1 plugin for realmedia is there.
[17:26] <superbob97> Hi guys, how do I download a .tar.bz2 file? I'm trying to install deadbeef
[17:29] <nemo> superbob97: using anything you like? wget and curl are fairly popular
[17:29] <nemo> or your web browser, whatever
[17:30] <nemo> superbob97: looks like you shouldn't be doing that anyway though
[17:30] <superbob97> nemo: but what command would I use in the terminal
[17:30] <superbob97> I'm a complete noob
[17:30] <nemo> superbob97: the http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/download.html page says to please use their ppa
[17:30] <superbob97> okay
[17:30] <squinty> superbob97:  http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/download.html
[17:30] <nemo> superbob97: https://launchpad.net/~starws-box/+archive/ubuntu/deadbeef-player
[17:31] <nemo> set it up as w/ a usual ppa. instructions are on that page as with any ppa
[17:32] <superbob97> thanks guys
[17:32] <nemo> np
[17:38] <elichai2> hey
[17:38] <elichai2> how do i set up an proxy that will work on all the programs runnings?
[17:40] <Gatis> Hi i have application .desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications but why i don't see them in Lubuntu menu?
[17:40] <drox> hello i have a problem with ubuntu 14.04 i can't  to active any program because my pc tell me it don't find
[17:41] <ssare> i tried installing vm extpack but
[17:41] <ssare> gave me VBoxExtPackRegister returned VERR_VERSION_MISMATCH, pReg=0000000000000000 ErrInfo='Helper version mismatch - expected 0x10002 got 0x10001'.
[17:41] <ssare> anyone can help?
[17:42] <squinty> ssare:  there is a virtualbox channel   #vbox
[17:43] <ssare> sorry i'm nu to ubuntu... pls be more specific
[17:44] <ssare> squinty: how do i get to that channel?
[17:45] <squinty> ssare:  type   /join #vbox    or use your irc software to look up the server lists channels
[17:45] <Gidz> hello all
[17:46] <Gidz> this is Gideon
[17:46] <Gidz> this group is silent
[17:46] <Gidz> :(
[17:47] <Gatis> Hi i have application .desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications but why i don't see them in Lubuntu menu?
[17:49] <Gatis> Ah they were hidden.
[17:52] <Gidz> dan this
[17:52] <Gidz> *damn
[17:58] <cmonordi> hi
[17:58] <sleipnir> hi, is it possible to copy a dicrectory to another location however only coping files with a certain extension?
[17:59] <bash_rulz> hello there, i'm having trouble opening up the packet manager gui although it works just fine in the command line, why is that?
[17:59] <nemo> ok. #gstreamer explained it is just bad packaging on the part of ubuntu
[17:59] <nemo> so. at least I know what's going on
[18:00] <reisio> cmanns__: heyo
[18:00] <reisio> sleipnir: yes, although the simplest way would be to copy all of it and then delete the files you don't want
[18:01] <bekks> sleipnir: cp -r yourdir/*.jpg ...
[18:01] <bekks> thats the mopst easy way.
[18:01] <sleipnir> reisio, do you have a link to a tutorial that shows how it could be automated
[18:01] <camtron> How reliable is alien for converting .rpm packages to .deb packages for Ubuntu?
[18:01] <xor-freenet> when selecting the "ubuntu archive mirror country" during the textmode installer, which mirrors is the primary central server?
[18:01] <sleipnir> bekks, oh, I see, that doesn't look abd at all
[18:02] <bekks> camtron: There is no guarantee for those packages to be working at all.
[18:02] <reisio> sleipnir: hang on
[18:02] <michele_> hi! How  to close a process loked?
[18:02] <smart_developer> What's the difference in the nature of what gets stored in /var/run/, versus what gets stored in /var/cache/ ??
[18:03] <sleipnir> bekks, it reutnrs an error: cannot stat Folder/*.txt' no such file or directory
[18:03] <bekks> smart_developer: /var/run/ is the directory conataining run files, /var/cache contains caches.
[18:03] <bekks> sleipnir: So there are no "*.txt" files in that folder.
[18:03] <michele_> where is the task manager xD
[18:04] <sleipnir> bekks, there is in subfolders
[18:04] <bekks> sleipnir: But not in "Folder/"
[18:04] <sleipnir> bekks, that is correct
[18:05] <squinty> bekks:  look for System Monitor
[18:05] <bekks> squinty: Why? :)
[18:06] <smart_developer> bekks : Then do you know what is the difference between the nature of "run files", and then nature of "caches" ?
[18:06] <bekks> smart_developer: Yes.
[18:06] <squinty> bekks:  sorry wrong nick  :P
[18:06] <squinty> michele_:  look for System Monitor
[18:06] <michele_> thanks :D
[18:06] <smart_developer> bekks : Would you mind summarizing the differences ?
[18:06] <reisio> sleipnir: do you have the time/space to copy it all and simply remove what you don't want? That is easier, as I said
[18:07]  * squinty needs more coffee
[18:07] <bekks> smart_developer: /var/run/ contains information about which processes are currently running on your system. /var/cache/ contains stuff applications want to cache.
[18:07] <sleipnir> reiso it is a time issue, network transfer. it is slow to copy all
[18:07] <sleipnir> folder contains large ahrcives
[18:08] <reisio> sleipnir: k
[18:08] <bekks> sleipnir: find Folder/ -type f -name "*.txt" -exec cp ...
[18:08] <Guest13389> hi, is it possible to bridge one wifi connection with wpa2 encryption (i have the key) to create a new ap that is open? reason: i use a shared site connection but i need to fix a tablet that cant connect. im using a toughbook cf19 and taking internet from internal wifi card (intel) and want to use the pcmcia atheros wifi as the ap. the tablet is an old xplorer and both running xubuntu
[18:08] <reisio> sleipnir: what network protocol?
[18:08] <sleipnir> reiso samba
[18:09] <sleipnir> bekks, let me try that
[18:10] <reisio> that won't preserve the dirs, either
[18:10] <sleipnir> ha, it works :D
[18:11] <reisio> sleipnir: rsync -apv --include '*/' --include '*.foo' --exclude '*' bar baz -n (run without -n for real)
[18:11] <nemo> apparently the problem is that the ubuntu 0.1 package doesn't actually work with system ffmpeg
[18:11] <nemo> so that needs removing
[18:12] <reisio> oh you didn't care about the dirs? :p
[18:12] <reisio> nemo: I've yet to find a use for gstreamer :)
[18:14] <nemo> reisio: well, my SO's transcription software uses, that's the main issue
[18:14] <sleipnir> reisio, I like the rsync aproach, thanks
[18:15] <reisio> nemo: which software?
[18:16] <txdv_> came here to rant about the slow installation process of ubuntu
[18:16] <txdv_> :D
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> txdv  that is not normal, better tell us what's wrong
[18:19] <Guest13389>  hi, is it possible to bridge one wifi connection with wpa2 encryption (i have the key) to create a new ap that is open? reason: i use a shared site connection but i need to fix a tablet that cant connect. im using a toughbook cf19 and taking internet from internal wifi card (intel) and want to use the pcmcia atheros wifi as the ap. the tablet is an old xplorer and both running xubuntu
[18:20] <nemo> reisio: Transcribe! by Seventh String
[18:20] <nemo> reisio: for that type of app is really top-notch
[18:20] <nemo> reisio: reasonable price and he actually supports linu
[18:20] <ChaseTrains> how's it hanging nemo
[18:20] <nemo> *x
[18:20] <nemo> ChaseTrains: uh. hi?
[18:20] <nemo> we met?
[18:21] <ChaseTrains> nemo: yeah.. like.. daily in this channel dude.
[18:21] <ChaseTrains> for like.. 3 months now
[18:21] <nemo> O_o
[18:21] <nemo> I hardly ever come by here
[18:22] <ChaseTrains> you've highlighted me exactly 42 times this week according to my client.
[18:22] <bazhang> !ot | ChaseTrains
[18:22] <ChaseTrains> nemo omg
[18:24] <ChaseTrains> ok got it bazhang
[18:24] <ChaseTrains> thanks
[18:25] <michele__> hi! there is a channel for italian support?
[18:25] <SchrodingersScat> !it | michele__
[18:25] <bazhang> #ubuntu-it
[18:25] <SchrodingersScat> if that is speaking to you in italian, then yes
[18:25] <michele__> thanks a lot
[18:26] <michele__> hahahah
[18:26] <michele__> no i'm not good
[18:26] <michele__> to speak in english
[18:26] <michele__> but i try however
[18:29] <MagicSpud> I need help upgrading ubuntu, here my problem: http://www.pasteall.org/54113
[18:31] <michele__> sorry in the italian channel there aren't people
[18:31] <michele__> can you help me?
[18:32] <facepalm> What's the problem michele_?
[18:33] <michele__> i want to make a "scrivania button" to return in the "scrivania" (DESKTOP) too fast without close or minimize the windows opened
[18:33] <MagicSpud> I need help upgrading ubuntu: http://www.pasteall.org/54114
[18:34] <facepalm> michele_ take a look at this... I think this may be your answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126540/how-to-add-a-show-desktop-icon-to-the-launcher
[18:35] <MagicSpud> would substituting the sources.list.upgrade file fix it?
[18:35] <MagicSpud> I mean using the sources.list.upgrade file instead of the one I am using right now....
[18:37] <michele__> thanks a lot
[18:37] <facepalm> You're welcome.
[18:39] <michele__> lol there isn't my unity in the software center
[18:40] <facepalm> What version of Ubuntu are you using michele_?
[18:40] <facepalm> Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu?
[18:40] <vArgas> hi there ?    what distro linux can u recomend for my pc it has 3gb ram 250gb hdd 8400gs gfx card and a dual core prosesor
[18:41] <michele__> 14.04
[18:41] <facepalm> vArgas, any of the Ubuntu flavors would work fine for that.
[18:41] <michele__> unutnu
[18:41] <MagicSpud> vArgas i am running windows Xp 64 bits with ubuntu 14.04 dual boot on a similar machine
[18:41] <vArgas> i have something called ubuntu 14
[18:41] <MagicSpud> vArgas flawless
[18:42] <facepalm> vArgas Xubuntu would probably run well, Lubuntu also.
[18:42] <vArgas> cool magicspud
[18:42] <ImActuallyACat> hey guys, i'm having a problem with starting up ubuntu, i was wondering if i could get some help.
[18:42] <facepalm> michele_ are you using Unity?
[18:43] <Moony22> empty
[18:43] <MagicSpud> vArgas amd athlon II dual core with 8Gb ram...but It also worked fine with 2Gb
[18:44] <vArgas> thank :D
[18:44] <Moony22> np
[18:44] <MagicSpud> vArgas I just added more RAM to play videogames
[18:44] <vArgas> lol can u play games on linux?
[18:44] <vArgas> i want minecraft but the pirated version
[18:44] <MagicSpud> I bought it
[18:44] <MagicSpud> and works fine standalone
[18:44] <vArgas> i only haveit on ps3
[18:45] <vArgas> tho
[18:45] <MagicSpud> but if you want to play on a local server you would probably need more CPU
[18:45] <vArgas> <MagicSpud     ok
[18:45] <facepalm> michele_, System Settings -> Appearance, select Behavior tab and tick And show desktop icon to the launcher.
[18:46] <ImActuallyACat> when i try to start up ubuntu, i get "ALERT! /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"
[18:46] <vArgas> MagicSpud   its funny but i really like o.s that are very simple as dsl  xD i find using the terminal being cool
[18:46] <vArgas> lol
[18:46] <Timoty>  what version of Ubuntu are you using ?
[18:47] <ImActuallyACat> me? 14.04
[18:47] <facepalm> vArgas, no piracy talk please.
[18:47] <Timoty>  okay. Are you using a 64bits version?
[18:47] <vArgas> MagicSpud but i cant findto install any apt-get flash on it
[18:47] <vArgas> ups
[18:47] <vArgas> soory
[18:48] <ImActuallyACat> and i'll i'm able to do is use initramfs commands.
[18:48] <ImActuallyACat> is there a way to at least be able to reach my old files using a live USB, then reformat and install it again?
[18:49] <vArgas> last question: what browser do u reccomend firefox or google chrome?
[18:49] <vArgas> just to know tho
[18:50] <vinit-ivar> personal taste
[18:50] <vinit-ivar> use the one whose plugins you prefer
[18:50] <vinit-ivar> otherwise, i'd stick to firefox for now, it's easier on resources
[18:52] <ImActuallyACat> any ideas? i'm really stuck here.
[18:52] <facepalm> ImActuallyACat I'm pretty sure using a Live USB you can access your drive just fine if you need to reinstall.
[18:53] <ImActuallyACat> i can't seem to find my files and documents through it.
[18:53] <dp_> is there a version of ubuntu that has dovecot 2.2.13?
[18:53] <facepalm> ImActuallyACat did you encrypt your /home?
[18:53] <ImActuallyACat> i'm not sure.
[18:53] <ImActuallyACat> how can i check if i have?
[18:55] <facepalm> ImActuallyACat: http://askubuntu.com/questions/233684/luks-initramfs-boot-problem-dev-mapper-ubuntu-root-does-not-exist-how-can-i
[18:57] <ImActuallyACat> i'm tried that, but it doesn't work. it says "no volume groups found".
[18:59] <shibboleth> ImActuallyACat: is the VG/volume group on an ecrypted pertition?
[18:59] <ImActuallyACat> how can i check?
[18:59] <shibboleth> ImActuallyACat: furst unlock you luks partition, then vgscan -a/vgchange -ay
[19:06] <Mahe> hi
[19:06] <dharc> hi guys, is unity portable to freebsd?
[19:06] <fl8sh123> tried to install wordpress on ubuntu and removed it due to error.  Now my local ip just brings up a white blank page. It does not show my index.html. anyone know why
[19:06] <Mahe> any indian girls?
[19:06] <bazhang> dharc, asked in #freebsd yet?
[19:06] <shibboleth> dharc: why unity
[19:06] <bazhang> !ot | Mahe
[19:08] <dharc> bazhang: no, there is no reason to ask there
[19:08] <dharc> shibboleth: because unity uses qt and qt is more portable
[19:09] <shibboleth> dharc: sure, but unity should be avoided by any good purist
[19:11] <camtron> Every time my laptop boots, the splash screen gets interrupted with this message:
[19:11] <camtron> [   16.459359] [drm:i915_stolen_to_physical] *ERROR* conflict detected with stolen region: [0x3f800000 - 0x3ffc0000]
[19:11] <camtron> What does that mean?
[19:12] <dharc> what do you mean, shibboleth?
[19:13] <Timoty>  shibboleth : what do you mean?
[19:13] <shibboleth> dharc: unity has sponsored seached, send userdata back to canonical
[19:13] <michele_> hi
[19:14] <dharc> that is a optional feature
[19:14] <shibboleth> there are a whole list of features that are leaky as hell
[19:14] <michele_> i want a good translator... in the software center what i download?
[19:14] <shibboleth> dharc: you will have to know about them all and know how to deactivate them all
[19:14] <michele_> because i try one of this but don't function correctly
[19:14] <camtron> I like Unity's interface, but it's almost as slow as KDE.
[19:14] <dharc> shibboleth: ok
[19:19] <camtron> I didn't get that error when I first installed Ubuntu 12.04, so it must be some update.
[19:19] <dreamon> good evening. what could be reason why dmeg -T shows outdated infos -> [Do Sep 18 03:54:31 2014] wlan6: associated (last line)
[19:20] <Gatis> Hi, tell me please leightweight text editor.
[19:20] <SchrodingersScat> Gatis: nano
[19:20] <bazhang> nano
[19:20] <Gatis> GUI one
[19:20] <SchrodingersScat> Gatis: sed
[19:20] <michele_> language translator show me this error Language detection not available
[19:21] <SchrodingersScat> Gatis: gedit, leafpad, mousepad, etc.
[19:21] <camtron> notepad.
[19:21]  * camtron runs.
[19:21] <Gatis> what about notepad++ is it fast?
[19:21] <camtron> Gatis: yes.
[19:22] <camtron> It's Windows-only, but it runs flawlessly on Wine.
[19:22] <Gatis> aah no
[19:22] <Gatis> I need linux supported
[19:22]  * roachmmflhyr is now away - Reason : Auto-Away (Away from Keyboard for 30 minutes)
[19:23] <SchrodingersScat> !away | roachmmflhyr
[19:24] <camtron> Gatis: I've used notepad++ a lot on Linux without problems, but what are you planning to use it for? programming? jotting notes?
[19:24] <Gatis> Just in case i need it
[19:25] <Gatis> ill go for Leafpad
[19:26] <Gatis> Which is more leightweight Gedit or Leafpad?
[19:26] <camtron> Leafpad.
[19:27] <camtron> Both are pretty lightweight, though.
[19:29] <ghty> Hi. How can I get quicktime running under google chrome website? I have installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and didn't work. Under Firefox everything is ok...
[19:30] <ghty> quicktime plugin under google chrome webbrowser ;)
[19:32] <_Trullo> how do I add shortcuts on the desktop in 14.04?
[19:34] <michele_> pls a  good translator ?
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> _Trullo  http://askubuntu.com/questions/450266/an-easy-way-to-create-a-desktop-shortcut
[19:35] <camtron> ghty: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/quicktime-plugin/mgeglimppeibnnkphlopcndopgcnngce
[19:40] <anonymous_> hi
[19:46] <usr13> _Trullo: Right click the file you want a link to in your file manager. Select "Create link" from the context menu. Move that link wherever you want it. (Desktop)
[19:47] <usr13> ooops, didn't see MonkeyDust's answer.
[19:47] <Gatis> Hi i installed Lubuntu minimal.. How to generate Home folders(Downloads, Picture, etc)?
[19:48] <camtron> _Trullo: Or you can just hold shift while dragging and dropping.
[19:48] <eeee> Gatis: useradd -m <username>
[19:48] <_Trullo> usr13, I wanna add drives to the desktop
[19:48] <Gatis> eeee: i have added user
[19:49] <leshik> нарол помоги разобратся C Apache2
[19:49] <eeee> Gatis: how did you add?
[19:49] <leshik> *Народ
[19:49] <Gatis> During installation i added user
[19:49] <smart_developer> What's the significance of "owner" and "group", in regards to file/directory chown ?
[19:50] <smart_developer> The words "owner" and "group" don't seem to be very descriptive in regards to what they can do, and what their roles are ...
[19:50] <smart_developer> I mean, "owner", seems somewhat more clear, but what exactly is "group" ?
[19:50] <amr> anyone familiar with how to adjust fanspeeds? speedfan didnt detect any fans
[19:50] <amr> hp spectre 13
[19:50] <smart_developer> But then again, my assumptions about what "owner" means might be wrong as well.
[19:50] <smart_developer> in regards to chown/permissions
[19:51] <Bashing-om> Gatis: " How to generate Home folders(Downloads, Picture, etc)?" you mist install a Desktop Environment - say like xfce4 or some such.
[19:51] <Bashing-om> mist/must*
[19:51] <Gatis> Bashing-om: i have Lubuntu
[19:52] <eeee> Gatis: if you run useradd -m <newuser>
[19:52] <eeee> Gatis: do you get a new user with the directories?
[19:52] <bekks> eeee: useradd never creates those directories.
[19:52] <Gatis> eeee: Im logged in a user
[19:53] <eeee> bekks: what does then?
[19:53] <bekks> eeee: The desktop environment upon first login.
[19:53] <eeee> bekks: i see
[19:54] <Bashing-om> Gatis: Did you do "apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" ??
[19:54] <Gatis> no
[19:54] <Gatis> mini.iso -> Lubuntu minimal installation
[19:54] <Bashing-om> Gatis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall .
[19:55] <Gatis> Bashing-om: it's nothing there about home directories
[19:55] <michele_> there isn't a translator????
[19:56] <Bashing-om> Gatis: "home directories" are part of the "desktop Environment" as installed by " apt-get install lubuntu-desktop ".
[19:57] <Gatis> Bashing-om: no i believe there is a way to generate home directories
[19:57] <TJ-> Gatis: The directories are created by "xdg-user-dirs-update" which is usually called as one of the /etc/X11/Xsession.d/  session scripts ("60xdg-user-dirs-update")
[19:57] <Bashing-om> Gatis: Above my skill set then.
[19:58] <TJ-> Gatis: package is "xdg-user-dirs"
[19:58] <Gatis> TJ-: ah alright..
[19:59] <Gatis> Tj- thank you. I see i don't have this package.
[20:00] <eeee> !find xdg-user-dirs-update
[20:00] <Gatis> !xdg-user-dirs
[20:00] <Gatis> !info xdg-user-dirs
[20:02] <usr13> _Trullo: Same process, (files directories same same)
[20:03] <Gatis> Can you tell me please leightweight network manager
[20:04] <bazhang> Gatis, dhclient
[20:05] <usr13> Gatis: I don't think any of them are very heavy, but I prefer wicd, (don't know that it's any lighter but...)
[20:05] <Gatis> !dhclient
[20:05] <nmz787> so for changing tabs in gnome-terminal I have mapped ctrl-q and ctrl-shift-q, but I want to try and use the Ubuntu System Settings keyboard shortcuts to bind ctrl-tab and ctrl-shift-tab, and I think I need to use something like xvkbd to send the ctrl-q or ctrl-shift-q
[20:05] <Gatis> Network Manager Gnome is pretty heavy
[20:05] <nmz787> but I'm not sure what arguments to use for xvkbd
[20:05] <usr13> Gatis: It is a command, not a package.
[20:05] <Gatis> I have 1GB ram laptop
[20:06] <usr13> !dhcp | Gatis
[20:06] <JazZItSsK> not registered
[20:06] <Gatis> usr13 it is a package
[20:06] <Gatis> !info network-manager-gnome
[20:06] <JazZItSsK> guys I know what it is
[20:07] <Gatis> usr13 are you talking about dhcp or gnome network manager/
[20:07] <JazZItSsK> cloud enablement by microsoft
[20:07] <JazZItSsK> not very impressed
[20:07] <Gatis> Im currently using dhcp :)
[20:07] <usr13> Gatis: Package dhclient does not exist in trusty
[20:08] <Gatis> I thought it was GUI network manager
[20:09] <vargas> HELP!!!  i cannot update the sistem
[20:09] <JazZItSsK> so hip hip hurray one day we all be united and controlled
[20:10] <usr13> !info network-manager  | Gatis
[20:10] <JazZItSsK> should be done in a less offensive way
[20:10] <Gatis> usr13:  is it Gnome one?
[20:11] <vargas> can someone help me i cannot update my sistem i wont let me it says check ur internet connection but my internet works fine
[20:11] <nmz787> ok so I was able to use xvkbd -text "\Cq" bound to Ctrl-Tab in the System Settings->Keyboard panel...but... the shorcut doesn't get fired if you continue holding ctrl and hit tab multiple times
[20:12] <nmz787> you have to lift up on ctrl and then hit ctrl-tab again
[20:12] <newnick> im installing compton, or trying to i have pulled it down but in the install guides it has shortened directorys
[20:12] <newnick> where is ~/.config/
[20:12] <newnick> or /etc/
[20:13] <JazZItSsK> so this a WW project to reconcile and clean up messy accesses right ?
[20:13] <eeeeee> newnick: "/" is the root directory, like C:
[20:13] <usr13> vargas: host av.com  #Do you get response?
[20:13] <vargas> usr13 not
[20:13] <usr13> vargas: Not what?
[20:13] <newnick> so to get to /etc/ it should be on the root
[20:13] <newnick> but i can't see it
[20:14] <newnick> i know it was there, because I have seen it though
[20:14] <usr13> vargas: (Please elaborate.)
[20:14] <eeeeee> newnick: open a terminal, and type cd /etc
[20:14] <newnick> nope my stupidity, got it
[20:14] <newnick> cheers
[20:14] <vargas> usr13: ok look i want to update but is always fails
[20:14] <usr13> vargas: pastebinit
[20:15] <vargas> usr13: ok
[20:16] <usr13> vargas: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[20:16] <newnick> do I just create .conf's in etc?
[20:16] <vargas> usr13: idk how to do that but it says not found packeges download ect
[20:16] <vargas> ...
[20:16] <eeee> newnick: what are you trying to achieve?
[20:17] <usr13> !paste | vargas
[20:17] <newnick> "Once it’s installed, create a text file in ~/.config/ called compton.conf with the following contents:"
[20:17] <newnick> im trying to get to that stage
[20:17] <eeee> newnick: yeah, do that
[20:17] <newnick> just create compton.conf in /etc/
[20:18] <Bashing-om> vargas: Install the tool -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit <- then run usr13'a command.
[20:18] <Fohlen> anyone can give me a tipp about this issue: libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:1619 kmod_module_new_from_loaded: could not open /proc/modules: No such file or directory
[20:18] <Fohlen> Error: could not get list of modules: No such file or directory
[20:18] <eeee> newnick: yeah
[20:18] <Fohlen> it apperars on my new ubuntu server installation.
[20:19] <newnick> will do, cheers
[20:19] <Fohlen> seems somewhat problem with my kernel modules but I don't know how to resolve it.
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> Fohlen  there's also #ubuntu-server
[20:19] <eeee> newnick: i think you need to use sudo to create it
[20:19] <vargas> usr13: i cannot usepastebinit it says error some thingmissing idk
[20:19] <Fohlen> MonkeyDust: thanks.
[20:19] <usr13> Fohlen: Is this an actual PC or....?
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> vargas  install pastebinit, first
[20:19] <Fohlen> usr13: it's dedicated hardware, yes.
[20:19] <vargas>  Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:19] <eeee> newnick: gksu gedit /etc/compton.conf
[20:20] <usr13> vargas: past.ubuntu.com
[20:20] <vargas> thats what it says
[20:20] <newnick> gksu gedit??
[20:20] <newnick> just whack that in terminal
[20:20] <eeee> newnick: yeah, that will open gedit with root privileges
[20:20] <Bashing-om> vargas: Please follow instructions, we need to see that output and in context. ->  sudo apt-get update | pastebinit <- .
[20:21] <Jeffrey_f> My daughter may have done something with her gnome session.   Her bottom bar is missing.
[20:21] <usr13> Fohlen: cat /etc/issue
[20:22] <vargas> i know but look in terminal this pups up  Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[20:22] <Fohlen> usr13: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[20:23] <usr13> Fohlen: Show us the last 5 or 6 lines of  ls -tr /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[20:23] <usr13> vargas: Yes
[20:23] <usr13> vargas: sudo apt-get install -f
[20:24] <usr13> !paste | Fohlen
[20:24] <Fohlen> usr13: http://sprunge.us/jSJH
[20:24] <vargas> usr13     ok what next
[20:24] <Fohlen> yes, sorry.
[20:25] <usr13> Fohlen: sudo apt-get install -f
[20:25] <usr13> vargas: sudo apt-get update
[20:26] <vargas> usr13 same thing same error about it wont download some files*
[20:26] <usr13> vargas: paste it at paste.ubuntu.com
[20:27] <usr13> vargas: About 10 or 20 lines  Okay?
[20:27] <usr13> vargas: And send us the URL
[20:28] <vargas> usr13 i know but it very hard to unerstand u seeim new to this xD
[20:28] <vargas> i have no clue what to do
[20:28] <vargas> :S
[20:28] <usr13> vargas: Does it say anything about autoremove?
[20:28] <vargas> NO
[20:28] <usr13> vargas: Do you know how to copy and paste?
[20:29] <vargas> usr13   yes
[20:30] <Fohlen> usr13: says everything is alright.
[20:30] <usr13> vargas: Highlight the last 10 or 20 lines of the terminal's output, take firefox to paste.ubuntu.com and hit the middle mouse button in the Content area
[20:30] <vargas> usr13 ok give me minute please
[20:30] <mattd_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi
[20:30] <usr13> vargas: ... click on Paste!
[20:30] <usr13> vargas: .... send us URL
[20:31] <Gatis> How's Smuxi IRC client?
[20:31] <vargas> usr13 i change the update thing to main server sow its doing something i have to wait
[20:31] <usr13> vargas: Okey Dokey
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  it can handle the most complex ubuntu questions
[20:32] <Elimin8er> I have been running ubuntu for a long time on a what I call and older system. its a Dell Inspiron-3521 AKA 15, and just today I rebooted and when it started back up, I got This error: " ubuntu has been blocked by the current security policy ", When I findly disabled secure boot it worked again.. and yes Im in EFI modes.. anyhow.. its never done this before.. any ideas ??? I have asked in the other channels with no reply avail ..
[20:33] <Gatis> Smuxi has a lot of dependencies almost 60 MB
[20:33] <Riddleywalker> Hi all
[20:33] <vargas> usr13   hey dude i think i fixed it
[20:33] <vargas> usr13 i change the updater thing to MAIN SERVER and it works now :D
[20:34] <TJ-> Elimin8er: That sounds as if the "grub-efi-amd64" package was updated but that "grub-efi-amd64-signed" wasn't
[20:34] <usr13> vargas: Very good.
[20:34] <vargas> usr13 there is no error in ternimal now when i use the apt-get update :D
[20:34] <Elimin8er> TJ-, hmm.. so I just wait for an update or what can I do? Im still kinda new to this.
[20:35] <Elimin8er> I been using a computer since 1980 started with C64 then PC ..but the linux thing, im still learning. :)
[20:35] <vargas> usr13  thanks anyway its cool to have community thats there to help :D Bye
[20:36] <Riddleywalker> This is a test
[20:36] <Gatis> Anyone suggest Smuxi IRC client?
[20:37] <guntbert> !test | Riddleywalker
[20:37] <Riddleywalker> lol thank you
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  try a few clients and choose the one you like most
[20:37] <Riddleywalker> haven't been on IRC in like 10 years
[20:37] <TJ-> Elimin8er: For now if Secure Boot is disabled you should be OK. "grub-efi-amd64-signed" contains a GRUB boot-manager prebuilt and signed using Canonical's EFI key; "grub-efi-amd64" generates an unsigned boot-manager ("/boot/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi") on-the-fly
[20:37] <usr13> Gatis: I suggest irssi
[20:37] <Riddleywalker> last client i used was bitchX
[20:37] <Gatis> usr13 why
[20:38] <Elimin8er> TJ-, , thank for your support..
[20:38] <Elimin8er> TJ-, , This is the only channel I seemed to have received help with anything on.
[20:38] <Gatis> oh Smuxi has a lot of dependencies...
[20:39] <usr13> Gatis: http://irssi.org/documentation
[20:39] <Elimin8er> when it comes to irc clients, I use hexchat.. guess I like the gui's
[20:39] <TJ-> Elimin8er: Some updates may cause "grub-efi-amd64" to be reconfigured which causes it to generate a new "grubx64.efi" which may replace the existing signed version entry in the System's boot menu
[20:39] <Gatis> Elimin8er: yes i know hexchat i like it
[20:39] <Gatis> usr13: well not sure about cli irc client
[20:40] <usr13> Gatis: I am
[20:40] <Elimin8er> I use hexchat behind ZNC..
[20:40] <gatis_> hi
[20:40] <gatis_> Smuxiii!
[20:40] <Elimin8er> TJ-, Might be a chance there is a backup someplace there maybe?
[20:41] <Elimin8er> I do keep system backups also.. but I just wanted to know what happend.
[20:41] <Elimin8er> its the first time that happen
[20:41] <Gatis> Nop don't like Smuxi
[20:42] <TJ-> Elimin8er: The signed file is installed at "/usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi-signed/grubx64.efi.signed" - it is copied and renamed from there when "grub-install" runs
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  if you use irssi in combination with screen, you can close the terminal and even logout, without interrupting the irc session
[20:43] <Elimin8er> TJ-,  I run 2 systems with ubuntu one a dell and the other a HP. and they both have ubuntu 14.10. and only my dell did that crazy thing.
[20:43] <Gatis> MonkeyDust: oh alright
[20:43] <Gatis> What's screen?
[20:43] <TJ-> Elimin8er: 14.10?
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> !screen | Gatis
[20:43] <Elimin8er> yea 14.10 utopic
[20:43] <Elimin8er> gnome also
[20:43] <TJ-> Elimin8er: support for the development version of Ubuntu is in channel #ubuntu+1, but you should expect breakage from time to time
[20:44] <docmur> I just preformed a distupgrade to 14.04 and after the upgrade was done my mindlna install / configure was corrupt.  Now when I try to start the service I get:  parsing error file /etc/minidlna.conf line 54 : listening_ip=192.168.1.107, without binding to an address, non of the devices on the network can see files in the media share.  Has anyone else seen this.  Everything worked before the upgrade
[20:44] <Gatis> MonkeyDust: is it like tty?
[20:44] <Elimin8er> TJ-,  Thank you.. I will join that channel also.
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  yes
[20:44] <eeee> docmur: you dist-upgraded to 14.04 ? I hope you mean do-release-upgrade ?
[20:45] <usr13> !nvidia | docmur
[20:45] <Elimin8er> TJ-,  I have just always been a guy that likes to test the latest of everything.. heck I even got a copy of windows 9 comming at the end of the month.
[20:45] <Gatis> MonkeyDust: why can't just use tty? :)
[20:45] <docmur> yes sorry, i thought do-release upgrade just ran a dist-upgrade
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  for the reasons I just said
[20:46] <usr13> docmur: You may need to re-install the nvidia modules
[20:46] <eeee> Gatis: you can logout, and the session continues, you log back in, and then "attach" back to it
[20:46] <Elimin8er> anyhow I got 5 systems
[20:46] <usr13> docmur: Or just reconfigure
[20:46] <docmur> what? ro get minidlna working I have to reinstall a graphics card driver?
[20:47] <usr13> docmur: Oh, I missread
[20:47] <Gatis> I don't log  out.. Either I suspend latpop or shutdown it.
[20:47] <usr13> !info minidlna | docmur
[20:48] <TJ-> docmur: "minidlna" isn't in Trusty, it got dropped, but it is in trusty-backports via Utopic.see http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-backports/minidlna
[20:48] <eeee> Gatis: it's useful over ssh
[20:48] <Gatis> eeee why do you use ssh?
[20:48] <Moony22> GoLinuxMint: lol
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  and with screen -x you can connect to a running TTY session
[20:49] <Gatis> ill test it somedayh
[20:50] <SchrodingersScat> Gatis: so I can access it from almost anything that understands internet speak
[20:50] <Gatis> SchrodingersScat: you mean acces your pc from other pc?
[20:50] <SchrodingersScat> Gatis: yes can ssh in to the irc program that stays running.
[20:50] <Gatis> Not useful for me..
[20:51] <eeee> Gatis: let's say you have a long running process on a specific shell providing server, you run it in screen, you log out, log back in after a while and attach to it
[20:51] <Gatis> ok
[20:51] <TrainChase> guys, im banned everywhere
[20:51] <TrainChase> pls
[20:51] <TrainChase> i did drugs
[20:51] <Gatis> But i don't have problem quiting IRC>
[20:51] <TrainChase> and they wont let me in to defocus
[20:51] <TrainChase> im barely watching thsi
[20:52] <Gatis> TrainChase: you're not only one
[20:52] <TrainChase> i wont remember and i dont nkow if its serioius
[20:52] <k1l_> TrainChase: please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support. thanks
[20:52] <Gatis> so don't despair
[20:52] <TrainChase> k1l_: im not clear
[20:52] <Gatis> i turn off my laptop every day
[20:52] <TrainChase> why wont you understand
[20:52] <k1l_> !ot | TrainChase
[20:52] <TrainChase> i cant think shit im confused and you're fucking my brain
[20:53] <TrainChase> im not trying to do anything wrong
[20:53] <Riddleywalker> anyone in here now CW?
[20:53] <Riddleywalker> *know
[20:53] <usr13> Riddleywalker: yes
[20:53] <Riddleywalker> usr13, awesome - what speed?
[20:53] <usr13> 20wpm
[20:54] <ahklerner> what is CW
[20:54] <usr13> Riddleywalker: This is #ubuntu
[20:54] <Riddleywalker> usr13, very nice. I just started myself. 5wpm at the moment
[20:54] <usr13> continious wave
[20:54] <Riddleywalker> usr13, yeah i know but i thought i'd ask anyhow
[20:54] <Riddleywalker> usr13, so long...
[20:54] <usr13> Riddleywalker: Lots of fun! ....
[20:54] <usr13> Riddleywalker: Many years
[20:55] <s5fs> usr13: okay but what is continuous wave?
[20:55] <usr13> s5fs: It's for morse code
[20:55] <Riddleywalker> lol what have i started!
[20:55] <Riddleywalker> take care usr13
[20:55] <s5fs> usr13: ah, okay. couple options came up when i searched, just confirming.
[20:55] <usr13> Riddleywalker: U 2   73
[20:55] <s5fs> Riddleywalker: bah its slow in here anyways, a little ot is okay
[20:55] <Riddleywalker> oh! before i leave, any good servers/channels to check out for ham stuff?
[20:55] <ahklerner> yes google does not tell me what continuous wave is cept for a boating site
[20:55] <ahklerner> oh
[20:55] <ahklerner> morse code
[20:56] <usr13> Riddleywalker: There are several packages for cw
[20:56] <Riddleywalker> usr13, i guess i could google this
[20:56] <usr13> Riddleywalker: ebook2cw is one
[20:57] <Riddleywalker> usr13, oh no, i mean irc channels to chat about ham stuff
[20:57] <Riddleywalker> usr13, i've got Gordon West's study discs
[20:58] <plum> hi
[20:58] <ahklerner> hi
[20:58] <halina> I think it's broken still
[20:58] <Riddleywalker> usr13, thank you for the recommendation. 73
[20:58] <plum> i used dd to write an image file to an sd card, and now i can't see that sd card even from gparted
[20:59] <plum> i don't mind data loss, but i just want to be able to use the card again-- what can i do?
[20:59] <usr13> plum: You may need to unplug and plub it back in again, but make sure dd is finished
[20:59] <s5fs> plum: sdcards die like crazy too
[20:59] <usr13> *plug* not plub
[20:59] <s5fs> i've killed dozens in the last two years
[21:00] <usr13> plum: Oh, it is an sdcard?
[21:00] <plum> i've rebooted and tried plugging it back in, but it's not showing up still
[21:00] <plum> yeah, sd card-- micro sd card to be precise
[21:00] <plum> it's in an sd card adapter in a laptop though
[21:00] <usr13> plum: Better off to use a regular thumb drive
[21:00] <eeee> plum: try sudo parted -l
[21:01] <plum> parted -l only shows my hard drive
[21:01] <plum> not the sd card :/
[21:01] <plum> i was trying to write an OS to the sd card for a raspberry pi
[21:01] <ash123> hello all
[21:02] <s5fs> plum: try tailing /var/log/syslog when you stick the sdcard in, see if any errors show up
[21:02] <ash123> i had a problem earlier with my USB adapter, but the only solution seems to be to use a different USB adapter that has drivers which work properly
[21:02] <plum> Cerberus kernel: [  167.160059] mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card
[21:02] <ash123> i am wondering, as i am currently learning C at the moment, could i get to a point where i could one day write my own drivers?
[21:03] <plum> s5fs: that's what it says in tailing /var/log/syslog
[21:03] <ash123> and im learning it on Ubuntu (linux is supposed to be a better environment for learning C)
[21:03] <plum> that error shows up a few times, the error -110 for mmc0
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[21:03] <FU`CK_LENNART> Hate SystemD? Like Minimalism? Try Uselessd! Check it out at irc://irc.darknedgy.net/uselessd ! Visit the Website at http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ ! Say FUCK YOU to Poettering the Cunt and try USELESSD today!
[21:04] <k1l_> ash123: some day you will be able if you keep learning. but it still will be easier to buy a working device.
[21:04] <ash123> it just so happens i have 2 different usb adapters
[21:04] <ash123> one works partially, the other works fully
[21:05] <ash123> the drivers for the 'partially' working one are not good enough for linux
[21:05] <ash123> so im using the old one that works fully
[21:05] <k1l_> ash123: in short: if the manufacturer is helpfull and ships drivers: the device works
[21:05] <ash123> i spent ages trying to fix it, and was lucky enough that my old USB adapter works
[21:06] <Dillyo> don't mean to interupt.  Can anyone point me in the right direction towards a community on irc focused on html/html5?
[21:06] <ash123> they have made linux drivers for it, but the thing kept disconnecting constantly
[21:06] <k1l_> Dillyo: try alis
[21:06] <ash123> this particular model is version 4 which uses realtek drivers, the previous versions used atheros which people have claimed work properly from reviews
[21:06] <k1l_> !alis | Dillyo
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> Dillyo  type /j #html5
[21:07] <Dillyo> nice thank you
[21:07] <Dillyo> nice thank you
[21:07] <Dillyo> !
[21:08] <plum> what can i do for the mmc0 error -110 whilst initialising sd card?
[21:08] <ash123> i love this OS
[21:09] <ash123> i tried redhat fedora many years ago and gave up on linux
[21:09] <ash123> but this time i am sticking to it
[21:09] <alexis_> I'm new
[21:09] <ash123> with Ubuntu
[21:09] <ash123> cus it is supposed to be easy
[21:09] <ash123> easier*
[21:10] <s5fs> plum: i think it's dead yo
[21:10] <plum> me too :/ dang. that sucks, it's a 32gb one
[21:11] <ImActuallyACat> hi guys, after many attempts, i've gotten no where in fixing my boot. i recently tried using boot-repair-disk, but it hasn't helped. i'm afraid i'm rather stuck in a hole with this. is there ANY way to extract my files and documents from the damaged Ubuntu drive?
[21:12] <ImActuallyACat> any help would be greatly appreciated.
[21:12] <ash123> ImActuallyACat: are you able to access those files from an OS on a USB drive?
[21:12] <ash123> or another OS on the same/different HDD?
[21:12] <ImActuallyACat> no i'm not.
[21:13] <ash123> i wouldnt know then, sounds pretty bad
[21:13] <s5fs> plum: add it to the 'dead' pile. maybe there is some magic i'm unaware of, but i just keep tossing them into a pile and buying new ones.
[21:13] <ash123> speaking of which, does anybody know a free alternative to DBAN that is getting regular updates? i dont like how darik sold out to Blancco
[21:14] <plum> sounds like that's what i'll have to do, unfortunately
[21:14] <ImActuallyACat> i've got xubuntu on a live usb, and i have no idea if it's able to recognize the ubuntu install on the hard drive.
[21:14] <ImActuallyACat> i'm okay with reformating, i just want to be able to obtain some of my older files.
[21:15] <orb> What caused the problem?
[21:16] <ImActuallyACat> i honestly have no idea. i started up my computer after shutting it down, and then it told me i was missing the ubuntu root, and all i could do was use initramfs commands, and it's been going downhill ever since.
[21:17] <yahyaeri> what
[21:17] <ImActuallyACat> it's on a laptop, by the way. is it possible to remove that laptop's hard drive, put in in my desktop and then maybe extract those files from windows?
[21:17] <orb> Should I assume you know the device name and tried to mount it?
[21:18] <orb> It is possible to do and windows, but probably better to do it in Linux perhaps booting from a USB stick.
[21:18] <orb> sorry, I'm doing voice to text.
[21:18] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: easier to boot a live session on the laptop and backup over the network
[21:18] <ImActuallyACat> okay, how would i do that?
[21:20] <orb> ImActuallyACat: are you familiar with mount?
[21:20] <ImActuallyACat> no i'm not.
[21:20] <orb> i'm using an iPhone fryer see you at the moment. Typing all the commands would be a tad tedious.
[21:20] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: got a USB or DVD of ubuntu?
[21:21] <orb> Ick
[21:21] <ImActuallyACat> i've got a usb of xubuntu.
[21:21] <ImActuallyACat> is that okay?
[21:21] <daftykins> ok boot that
[21:21] <ImActuallyACat> okay, done so.
[21:21] <daftykins> are you in it right now?
[21:21] <ImActuallyACat> yes.
[21:21] <daftykins> open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[21:22] <daftykins> then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[21:23] <orb> daftykins: I think he just wants to mount the original hard drive and copy files from it.
[21:23] <ImActuallyACat> okay, done that.
[21:23] <daftykins> orb: yep, thus i'll find out what partitions are there
[21:23] <orb> Oh okay
[21:23] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: it should've given you a link to paste here
[21:24] <ImActuallyACat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8398989
[21:24] <daftykins> err, ok wow that's a bit odd
[21:24] <daftykins> hang on then before we make this any worse...
[21:25] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: "sudo apt-get install smartmontools" then "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[21:25] <daftykins> orb: not sure if you could open that paste on your phone easily but that disk looks damaged
[21:26] <ImActuallyACat> http://past.ubuntu.com/8399018
[21:26] <ash123> Would anyone recommend an alternative email provider to gmail? no advertisements, privacy, etc.
[21:26] <orb> I was noticing that.
[21:26] <ash123> or am I being paranoid? just wondering what is out there
[21:26] <daftykins> ash123: not on topic here
[21:27] <ash123> oh sorry
[21:27] <ash123> my bad
[21:27] <ImActuallyACat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8399018 forgot the 'e'.
[21:27] <rob79> Hey all, how's it going? Anyone here have any experience with fixing an NTFS partition? I'm in over my head :)
[21:27] <ash123> what is the name of that bot that recommends channels?
[21:27] <ash123> might be able to find one
[21:27] <daftykins> !alis
[21:27] <Krixvar> sorry for the cross post from kubuntu, but this is more of a general question and I see a lot more people here.. after a routine apt-get upgrade yesterday my nvidia drivers are broken to the point that I don't have nvidia-xconfig even after reinstalling (and trying a xorg-edgers version).. anyone else affected by this?
[21:27] <ash123> thanks
[21:28] <rob79> Basically I resized an NTFS partition on my external HDD and now it won't mount. Gparted tells me to chkdsk /f on windows, but I don't have windows :)
[21:28] <marvin-RPi> what do you mean by fixing Rob79 ?
[21:28] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: ok well the good news is there's no physical damage showing up, but as you saw there're only partitions showing for 64GB of the 750GB drive which is very bad
[21:28] <rob79> marvin-RPi: Well, after I resized the partition it just stopped mounting. I've tried ntfsfix with no success, and since I don't have access to Windows I'm not sure what other NTFS tools might be appropriate.
[21:29] <ImActuallyACat> is there anything i can do?
[21:29] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: first off, try a "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit" just to confirm
[21:29] <marvin-RPi> try gparted mate
[21:30] <rob79> This is exactly the error gparted gives me: http://pastebin.com/3eBf6bEZ
[21:30] <ImActuallyACat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8399049
[21:31] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: ideally, i would image up this disk to another before attempting any data recovery on it - if you're really keen to get anything back
[21:31] <orb> I wonder if FDISK a showing that because he might have an EFI partition. I'm not versed in all of that.
[21:32] <ImActuallyACat> how do i go about doing that?
[21:32] <daftykins> orb: that's why i asked for parted first, fdisk would've warned it doesn't support it, but it's an msdos partition table disk
[21:32] <orb> Maybe he needs to use gdisk?
[21:32] <orb> Oh Ok
[21:32] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: well you need another HDD to copy it to :)
[21:32] <ImActuallyACat> well damn...
[21:33] <daftykins> you can try some data recovery options now but you'll likely make things worse
[21:33] <daftykins> it's very risky
[21:33] <orb> I got a run, good luck on that
[21:33] <ImActuallyACat> i'm afraid i don't have another hard drive with the room to copy it to. =/
[21:33] <ImActuallyACat> thank you orb.
[21:34] <smart_developer> When doing chown owner : group, what is the significance of "owner", and the significance of "group" ?
[21:34] <smart_developer> Basically, what do they denote ?
[21:34] <smart_developer> privilege-wise
[21:35] <k1l_> smart_developer: can you rephrase?
[21:35] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: does your desktop have >1TB of space?
[21:35] <smart_developer> k1l_ : Basically, what exactly does "group" mean in this context?
[21:35] <smart_developer> k1l_ : Why do you need to specify something other than just "owner" ?
[21:35] <daftykins> smart_developer: they're entities, a group is a collection of users
[21:35] <k1l_> owner:group     in most cases its <your_nickname>:<group_name_like_sudoers_or_sambagroup>
[21:36] <ImActuallyACat> no, it's got about 50gb.
[21:36] <smart_developer> daftykins k1l_ : I understand that "group" is a collection of users, but why would someone want to specify the "group" for a particular file/directory ?
[21:37] <smart_developer> Basically, what's the significance of it ?
[21:37] <daftykins> so more than one user can access it...
[21:37] <smart_developer> Ah, so basically "group" is just short for "access group" ?
[21:37] <daftykins> no.
[21:37] <k1l_> smart_developer: think of you got 5 users using your pc (or some network directory). so you put them into a "cool-group" and set the permissions of a folder to user:cool-group. now all that users can handle the folder and the files in it according to the mode set for the group
[21:37] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: ok, so you can either try risky commands or buy another drive first to aid in recovering this one
[21:37] <smart_developer> daftykins - Then what's a more descriptive way to describe "group" ?
[21:37] <Slart> hey, I've got an old Griffin Powermate (basically just a big volume control with a led light).. when I plug it in I see that it's recognized in dmesg output and apparently it shows up as an input device.. how can I catch events from this? anything I can use to run bash scripts or python scripts when I use it?
[21:38] <daftykins> smart_developer: the only way the word 'group' needs more of an explanation is if your mother tongue isn't English
[21:38] <ImActuallyACat> let's try the risky commands, it's the only choice i've got really.
[21:38] <smart_developer> k1l_ : What "modes" are there ?
[21:38] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: hang on let me run this by a good sir
[21:38] <ImActuallyACat> okay thank you.
[21:38] <k1l_> smart_developer: that what you set with "chmod"
[21:38] <daftykins> TJ-: heya, do you have much experience with data recovery when a user's drive has lost partitions?
[21:39] <smart_developer> k1l_ : Ah, I see.
[21:39] <k1l_> smart_developer: like 755, or 711 etc etc
[21:39] <smart_developer> Then owner is just owner ?
[21:39] <smart_developer> Does owner mean that they have pretty much any permissions that they want?
[21:39] <smart_developer> And can "owner" be a collection of users, as well ?
[21:40] <s5fs> smart_developer: http://www.perlfect.com/articles/chmod.shtml
[21:40] <smart_developer> s5fs : That's for chmod
[21:40] <s5fs> all these questions and more can be answered with a quick read
[21:40] <TJ-> daftykins: Yes :)
[21:40] <smart_developer> s5fs : We're more on chown, here.
[21:40] <k1l_> smart_developer: no. owner is the first number and group the second number of the permissions numbers
[21:40] <k1l_> !permissions | smart_developer
[21:40] <s5fs> smart_developer: you are asking basic unix file permission questions, the utility used to modify these permissions does not matter.
[21:41] <s5fs> smart_developer: you need a better conceptual understanding of WHAT you are changing and WHY, not HOW
[21:41] <daftykins> TJ-: care to take a look at this parted output from ImActuallyACat ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8398989/ i was about to maybe advise testdisk being run. user has no disk space for a backup image to be made first
[21:41] <s5fs> chmod/chgrp/chown all that stuff is the HOW
[21:42] <smart_developer> k1l_ s5fs : Thanks.
[21:42] <smart_developer> Btw, s5fs what does your username stand for? something fs ?
[21:42] <smart_developer> filesystem ?
[21:43] <daftykins> keep it on topic, smart_developer
[21:43] <s5fs> smart_developer: system five filesystem
[21:43] <s5fs> so like, i may not be the wizards beard with unix file perms but i know enough ;)
[21:44] <TJ-> daftykins: ImActuallyACat OK, got that. I'll just run up a chat history so I can catch up. Have you checked the Live ISO's "/var/log/kern.log" for any indication of disk I/O errors from the Hitachi drive?
[21:44] <smart_developer> Quick question - so is "root" always going to be (either explicitly or just implicitly) considered both "owner" and a member of the "group" for every file/directory ?
[21:45] <daftykins> TJ-: no sir, i too jumped in late
[21:45] <smart_developer> Even when "owner" and "group" don't explicitly say so ?
[21:45] <smart_developer> Because "root" can do everything, right ?
[21:45] <ImActuallyACat> i'm not sure what i'd be looking for.
[21:45] <k1l_> smart_developer: nope
[21:45] <smart_developer> k1l_ : But can "root" still do, everything ?
[21:45] <smart_developer> k1l_ : Even when not "owner" or in "group" ?
[21:45] <thoonai> hey, I'm having trouble with nfs
[21:46] <k1l_> smart_developer: well, somewhat: yes.
[21:46] <smart_developer> k1l_ : What do you mean by the "somewhat" ?
[21:46] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: You'll see some very obvious "Disk I/O Error" messages, each of about 5 lines, detailing the raw command that failed
[21:46] <k1l_> smart_developer: but you should setup your stuff that way, that you dont need that superuser in daily use.
[21:47] <ImActuallyACat> nope, don't see any.
[21:47] <thoonai> I can't mount a nfs share though on the nfs server a user with the same uid and name exists as my desktop user and the shared directory belongs to this user
[21:47] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: Here's an example (the first photo shows them) http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/68147/i-o-errors-on-hard-disk-on-linux-boot
[21:48] <ImActuallyACat> nope, none.
[21:48] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: If there aren't disk I/O errors there's a good chance the data can be recovered in-situ, if we can first be sure what partitions and file-systems were on the disk before it went bad
[21:48] <smart_developer> k1l_ : Even having read s5fs article, I'm still a bit confused as to what the significance of "owner" is, and why permissions need to be set seperately for the "owner", aside from the "group" ?
[21:49] <smart_developer> k1l_ : And it seems that if you're the owner, why should anyone be setting permissions against you ?
[21:49] <smart_developer> After all, you're the owner, right?
[21:49] <smart_developer> And can owner be a group of users (more than one user) ?
[21:49] <k1l_> smart_developer: if you set the permissions to 700, only the owner can do all and even the group can do nothing
[21:49] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: Do you have "pastebinit" installed in the Live environment? If not, please install it - we're going to need it!
[21:49] <daftykins> TJ- + ImActuallyACat - already present :)
[21:50] <k1l_> smart_developer: XYZ permissions stand for X=owner, Y=gropu, Z= all.
[21:50] <TJ-> daftykins: ImActuallyACat Great .... "pastebinit < <(sudo blkid)"
[21:50] <ashley123> hi, just a quick question
[21:50] <k1l_> owner 1 person, group= well a group, all = all
[21:50] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: daftykins I'll be a couple of minutes; putting the coffee-pot on :)
[21:50] <daftykins> ashley123: waiting for it (:
[21:51] <smart_developer> k1l_ : So then it seems that "owner" can only be 1 user, correct ?
[21:51] <ashley123> I set my ubuntu partition to be about 15 GB big when i installed ubuntu earlier (alongside windows 7), but it only shows the partition as having a capacity of 6.2 GB on Ubuntu
[21:51] <ImActuallyACat> thank you so much guys, i really appreciate it!
[21:51] <ashley123> im wondering where the rest has gone?
[21:51] <smart_developer> k1l_ : And lastly, can the "chmod" command only be run by "root" ?
[21:51] <daftykins> ashley123: are you in ubuntu right now?
[21:51] <k1l_> ashley123: please pastebin "df -h"
[21:51] <ashley123> yes
[21:51] <ashley123> in ubuntu right now
[21:51] <daftykins> ashley123: what k1l_ said :)
[21:52] <ashley123> um, never used paste bin before
[21:52] <ashley123> do i need to make an account
[21:52] <ashley123> or can we private message on irc?
[21:52] <k1l_> smart_developer: no, chmod is run by the owner. if you are not the owner you run as sudo.
[21:52] <daftykins> no, paste.ubuntu.com
[21:52] <k1l_> smart_developer: be dont get tricked into running all as sudo. just use sudo where you really need to
[21:52] <smart_developer> k1l_ : "Run as sudo" = "Run as root" ?
[21:52] <ashley123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8399173/
[21:53] <ashley123> my SSD is 120 GB (advertised, actually smaller)
[21:53] <k1l_> smart_developer: on ubuntu there is no active root. you are running as user and if you need root-rights you use sudo
[21:53] <smart_developer> k1l_ : Okay, then "sudo" is the closest thing to the concept of "root", correct ?
[21:54] <k1l_> ashley123: please pastebin "sudo fdisk -l"   small L at the end
[21:54] <k1l_> smart_developer: yes. its used on ubuntu to not run as root all the time and do stuff accidently as root where it doesnt need root
[21:54] <ashley123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8399192/
[21:55] <k1l_> smart_developer: its like the admin user on windows, just that you dont run as admin all the time just preface a command with "sudo" to get that singe command the root rights
[21:55] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat daftykins  Can you show us "pastebinit < <(sudo blkid)"
[21:56] <karab44> we are the Champion of the World!
[21:56] <k1l_> ashley123: well, you only set 6GB to ubuntu. the other 8GB are used for swap
[21:56] <smart_developer> k1l_ : What's the difference between windows' admin user, and a superuser ?
[21:56] <ashley123> i set it to 15 GB when i was installing
[21:56] <ashley123> has the swap taken too much?
[21:56] <ImActuallyACat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8399211/
[21:57] <thoonai> hey, I'm experiencing a curious error: if I'm mounting a nfs share  I can't access the data and ls -la shows like user 1001 owns the folde I mounted the nfs share to
[21:57] <k1l_> smart_developer: in short: there is none
[21:58] <k1l_> smart_developer: see windows: they changed that old "you need to loginto admin account all the time" to that dialog boxes who ask for admin permissions, too. that is what sudo is like on ubuntu
[21:59] <smart_developer> k1l_ : All right, I see. I can take it further from here. Thank you for your help.
[21:59] <smart_developer> :)
[21:59] <thoonai> and if I try to sudo chown mysuser sudo can't access the directory
[21:59] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: OK, so the tools that should be able to tell us what is in "/dev/sda2" can't see anything they recognise, which suggests the partition has been over-written by something else either totally or in-part, so we now need to look at that manually. Please show us "pastebinit < <(sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 bs=512 count=8 | hexdump -C)"
[21:59] <k1l_> smart_developer: just take some 15mintes to read the wiki pages linked by the bot
[22:00] <ashley123> k1l_:  I have 8GB of RAM, should I reduce the swap (because I'm guessing I don't need so much)?
[22:00] <eeee> ashley123: if you aren't going to use the hibernate feature, you can delete the swap partition.
[22:00] <k1l_> ashley123: well, if you want to hibernate you need some little more than you got ram
[22:00] <thoonai> anybody an idea whats going wrong?
[22:00] <ashley123> oh ok, thanks for the replies guys
[22:00] <ashley123> i usually leave my computer turned on because i have really slow internet
[22:01] <k1l_> ashley123: personally i dont have a swap at all (8Gb ram and ssd and no use of hibernation)
[22:01] <ashley123> but i do have hibernation disabled (by default i do believe)
[22:01] <ImActuallyACat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8399227
[22:01] <daftykins> ashley123: your SSD is too small for even Windows alone i'd say, both on it is a bit of a masochistic move
[22:01] <thoonai> daftykins: huh? Windows works fine with 30GB or so
[22:02] <ashley123> daftykins: i dont have gigs upon gigs of videos/music/etc files stored
[22:02] <daftykins> thoonai: lol. off topic here but i fundamentally disagree
[22:02] <k1l_> ashley123: but honestly, 15GB is quite few space for a ubuntu. i got a 15GB / ( with 10GB used) and 70GB /home
[22:02] <ashley123> its fairly safe for me, i only have a bit of music and games, and mostly do programming now (learning anyway)
[22:02] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: Not looking good - those first 8 sectors of the partition should have something other than all zeros in them; your output shows nothing at all. This looks like something has blanked the partition
[22:02] <thoonai> sure Windows is a stupid idea, but it works
[22:02] <thoonai> don't separate /home to an extra partition
[22:03] <ImActuallyACat> so it's all gone?
[22:03] <thoonai> it does not makeexactly much sense
[22:03] <k1l_> thoonai: it does
[22:03] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: Install "testdisk" and use it; it may be able to find something and then we can decide if it is possible/safe to let testdisk make changse
[22:03] <thoonai> k1l_: tell me
[22:03] <thoonai> k1l_: I'm wonderign
[22:03] <k1l_> thoonai: doesnt flood / partition
[22:03] <thoonai> and I could need some help with nfs though ...
[22:03] <ashley123> i did have a 1TB HDD I was running alonside the SSD, but I hardly ever used it and it showed signs of failing (BSOD a lot until I disconnected it)
[22:04] <ImActuallyACat> alright, it's installed and running.
[22:04] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: Despite its name "testdisk" actually scans the raw data looking for the signatures of partitions and file-systems and gives options to recreate them so that an operating system can read them
[22:04] <thoonai> k1l_: ? what should flood a partition? user or root? I thought you have like 5% reserver for root on ext4?
[22:05] <somedudez> hello there! is it possible that installing 3 oses may slow down the hard disk rpm ?
[22:05] <ashley123> somedudez: you never run them all at once, so no
[22:05] <TJ-> somedudez: No
[22:05] <thoonai> somedudez: sure, after 20 OSes the disks stops because its too heavy
[22:06] <somedudez> but wouldnt the hard disk have. to "travel longer" to reach dofferent filesystems ?
[22:06] <thoonai> somedudez: no nothing happens you just have les space
[22:06] <TJ-> somedudez: That might be the case for tape drives, but not spinning disks
[22:06] <thoonai> +s
[22:06] <k1l_> thoonai: yep, or if you want to reinstall and want to keep user data, etc etc etc
[22:06] <somedudez> i see, fair e ough thanks !
[22:07] <thoonai> k1l_: never did separate partitions, never had any problems
[22:07] <k1l_> thoonai: i dont ride my bike with a bike helmet, never had any problems :/
[22:08] <ImActuallyACat> what do i do next?
[22:08] <thoonai> k1l_: oh sure, yes I'm experiencing weekly trouble with an server because glorious master admin separated the partitions and they ever flood with /tmp waste
[22:08] <thoonai> k1l_: sure thats no legit argument, sorry ;)
[22:08] <k1l_> thoonai: i mean: if you experience issues (on a standard user desktop system) its already too late for our discussion.
[22:09] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: If testdisk has positive results (claims to have found file-systems other that /dev/sda1), pastebin the report and let us consider it
[22:09] <Krixvar> Hey all, anyone have an idea why an apt upgrade would result in my nvidia drivers breaking to the point that xrandr doesn't work and I don't have a nvidia-xconfig command anymore? I've tried completely reinstalling 3 different versions of the drivers to no avail
[22:09] <thoonai> k1l_: ? huh
[22:09] <ImActuallyACat> okay, how do i do that?
[22:09] <daftykins> Krixvar: if they were manually installed from an nvidia website download, yeah, that could break things
[22:10] <k1l_> thoonai: yeah, server systems do have other requirements and even a lot of spare partitions for different mount points do make sense.
[22:10] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: sudo testdisk, No Log > No Log > select disk
[22:10] <Krixvar> daftykins -- straight from the repos, that's why I was so surprised
[22:10] <somedudez> abother questions: does Tor modify network config?
[22:10] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: what are you trying to recover?
[22:10] <ImActuallyACat> i selected the disk.
[22:10] <thoonai> k1l_: if the root partition floods every week with >20GB waste in /tmp something goes somewhat very wrong
[22:11] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: ext4 ? ntfs ?
[22:11] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: Has testdisk reported it can recover aanything?
[22:11] <Krixvar> daftykins: I just ran apt-get upgrade last night, didn't notice anything about nvidia, this morning its stuck at low resolutions and nvidia-settings doens't show any options
[22:11] <ImActuallyACat> do i select the intel option, then analyze?
[22:11] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: Can you pleae prefix your comments with my nickname; use tab-complete if needed to quickly select a nick-name
[22:11] <q120> Is there anybody who knows if there is an app for Ubuntu that will let me configure audio out formats such as bitrate, speaker settings (5.1, 7.1, etc)? I have one (Pulseaudio Volume Control) that definitely gives me many more options than is typical, but I'd like to be able to change some other parameters.
[22:11] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: Yes
[22:12] <q120> I'm not averse to manually editing files, if there is no GUI available
[22:12] <thoonai> and if I try to sudo chown mysuser sudo can't access the directory
[22:13] <TJ-> eeee: sda, 750GB msdos PT, 2 partitions, sda1 == /boot, sda2 primary.... zeroed for at least 1st 8 sectors. Using xbuntu live env, no disk I/O errors seen in logs
[22:14] <eeee> TJ-: ok
[22:15] <thoonai> oh  I have still trouble with my nfs not being properly mounted and changing the user and group id
[22:15] <Bashing-om> ImActuallyACat: TJ- :: as a new user, this may prove helpfull: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15761/recover-data-like-a-forensics-expert-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/ ;  written in a user-friendly way and introduces you to testdisk in a gentle way .
[22:16] <thoonai> I'm getting stupid about this nfs stuff, it makes no sense at all
[22:17] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: Thanks for the private message, but it'd be more helpful to keep all messages in the channel window so everyone can help you. You don't need to send me a message directly, just prefix any comments addressed to me with "TJ-" so my IRC client highlights them for me.
[22:18] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: eeee daftykins OK, testdisk is reporting "* Linux and P Linux LVM"
[22:18] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: You need to tell Testdisk to try to recover the "Linux LVM" which is what is in "/dev/sda2"
[22:18] <ImActuallyACat> TJ- ahh okay thanks.
[22:19] <daftykins> TJ-: interesting, no LVM experience here but i'd have thought it would've been seen as encompassing the entire 750GB disk? :)
[22:19] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: you can view the files by pressing 'p' over the partition
[22:20] <TJ-> daftykins: No ... GRUB might not like booting from LVM LV, so in that case a separate /boot/ is created.... this is to allow the option to use full-disk  encryption on the LVM PV
[22:21] <daftykins> TJ-: ah-haaa, so potentially nothing is wrong at all? :)
[22:21] <TJ-> daftykins: Well, yes, because something has clobbered the LVM metadata from sda2 so it looks empty to the file-system tools
[22:22] <daftykins> TJ-: oh ok, it's no voodoo tech then :)
[22:23] <thoonai> nfs is voodoo and it fdrives me insane
[22:24] <ImActuallyACat> TJ-: daftykins: what do i do next?
[22:25] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: did you use the right arrow to make the partitions you want recovered green?
[22:25] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: yes, both are green.
[22:26] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: TJ- daftykins ok, then write to disk, i guess?
[22:26] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: eeee can guide you well here; I need to go now, good luck with it
[22:26] <daftykins> eeee: i've no experience with that one myself :)
[22:26] <daftykins> TJ-: thanks for the assist
[22:27] <ImActuallyACat> TJ-: daftykins: thank you so much for the help!
[22:27] <daftykins> no problemo
[22:27] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: how do i write to disk? dk
[22:27] <daftykins> glad my instincts to check with someone better panned out
[22:27] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: do i set them both as primary? then just press enter to continue
[22:27] <ImActuallyACat> ?
[22:28] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: daftykins yeah, i think so
[22:28] <eeee> daftykins: ?
[22:28] <nahtnam> Hey!
[22:28] <eeee> I've no idea about LVM stuff
[22:29] <nahtnam> Im trying to install this: https://github.com/erming/shout-build But im not sure where to put the folder. I want it to have its own launcher icon.
[22:29] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: so i restarted the laptop and it's giving me the error missing operating system.
[22:29] <daftykins> eeee: sorry i don't have any experience with the current process
[22:30] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: did you write to disk?
[22:30] <ImActuallyACat> yes.
[22:30] <eeee> did you try the backup BS thing?
[22:30] <eeee> ( i think that checks the boot sector )
[22:30] <ImActuallyACat> no i did not.
[22:31] <eeee> ok, might be worth a shot
[22:31] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: give me a little bit to try and do so.
[22:31] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: do you have a windows cd ?
[22:32] <Bray9082_> Is there anyways to lock the dashboard to the desktop so it's always open
[22:32] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: no i do not.
[22:32] <thoonai> ok it works wit 755 permissions,but this is not exactly fine
[22:32] <thoonai> I dislike nfs so much
[22:33] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: so i just started up testdisk again, and now it's giving me quite a few drive options to select.
[22:34] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: including /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root which startup said was missing when the problem occured.
[22:35] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: do i still select /dev/sda to backup the BS thing?
[22:36] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: i think so
[22:36] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: do you have another PC with windows on it?
[22:36] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: i think you need to write the MBR
[22:37] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: yes i do, so i just write the TestDisk MBR code to the first sector?
[22:37] <eeee> no, i don't exactly know what that does
[22:37] <eeee> i was thinking you could use that pc to make a recovery usb, boot to a command prompt and fix the mbr
[22:38] <eeee> is this win8?
[22:38] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: win7.
[22:38] <eeee> let me see what that testdisk mbr option does
[22:40] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: ok, try the recovery BS thing
[22:40] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: how do i do that?
[22:40] <eeee> get the partitions the way you want them, and then after writing, press the backup BS option
[22:41] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: did that, now write?
[22:41] <eeee> yeah
[22:41] <eeee> what options do you get?
[22:42] <ImActuallyACat> "write partition table, confirm ? [y/n]"
[22:42] <eeee> yeah
[22:42] <ImActuallyACat> now reboot?
[22:42] <eeee> i mean after that what does it say?
[22:42] <eeee> no, wait
[22:42] <ImActuallyACat> it just says you have to reboot for the change to take effect.
[22:42] <eeee> it should say something to the right, like use backup bs
[22:43] <eeee> or something like that
[22:44] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: nothing?
[22:44] <ImActuallyACat> nope.
[22:44] <eeee> alright, i guess reboot
[22:44] <eeee> and enter testdisk agai
[22:44] <eeee> and try to write the testdisk MBR
[22:44] <jhutchins> For the root device you have to reboot for partition changes. Non root device doesn't require reboot.
[22:45] <ImActuallyACat> do i reboot the laptop or the program?
[22:45] <eeee> it tries to boot whatever bootsectors it finds in the partition's
[22:45] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: yeah try to reboot
[22:46] <nahtnam> Im trying to install this: https://github.com/erming/shout-build But im not sure where to put the folder. I want it to have its own launcher icon.
[22:46] <ImActuallyACat> still get missing operating system error.
[22:46] <ImActuallyACat> "reboot and select proper boot device".
[22:46] <eeee> nahtnam: if you know the command to launch the program, launcher icons go in /usr/share/applications ( as .desktop files )
[22:47] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: ok, enter testdisk and try to write the testdisk MBR
[22:47] <nahtnam> eeee There is no command
[22:47] <nahtnam> its a tarball file
[22:47] <eeee> nahtnam: follow the instructions of the author
[22:49] <nahtnam> eeee Yes, he says run build.sh, but when you run it, it just generates executable in the same folder
[22:49] <Dako300>  /msg NickSert identify danomann
[22:50] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: i wrote the testdisk mbr.
[22:50] <Dako300>  /msg NickServ identify danomann
[22:50] <eeee> nahtnam: so your command would be /path/to/executable i guess
[22:50] <eeee> nahtnam: try to run it in the terminal
[22:50] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: ok, restart i guess
[22:50] <nahtnam> eeee Ohhhh ok. I see what you mean! Where would the best place to put the folder with the exec files?
[22:51] <ImActuallyACat> okay, so now all i get is "1234F:"
[22:51] <eeee> nahtnam: if you want you can put it in /usr/bin , (that would let all users have access to it) , or you could make a ~/bin directory in your home, and it would be added to your PATH
[22:51] <Dako300> I have a Dell Latitude D620 that I want to use Intel graphics for. I set the BIOS to onboard graphics but the nouveau driver keeps on loading. I tried to blacklist it but it does not load i915. Is there any way to fix this. I believe this laptop is too old for Optimus.
[22:52] <nahtnam> eeee Thanks!
[22:52] <eeee> np
[22:52] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: ok press 1
[22:52] <eeee> it should try to boot from the first partition
[22:53] <ImActuallyACat> nothing happened.
[22:53] <eeee> 2?
[22:53] <ImActuallyACat> nope.
[22:53] <ImActuallyACat> tried, 3,4, and f, nothing.
[22:53] <eeee> ok, well i guess you can try to make a recovery usb using win7
[22:54] <ImActuallyACat> is 2gb enough?
[22:54] <eeee> i'm too well versed in these stuff, i'm not sure it would work, worth a shot i guess
[22:54] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: yeah
[22:55] <ImActuallyACat> okay, so what do i do now?
[22:55] <samuel_> if i have a Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) how can i know mine chipset ??
[22:55] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: try to go to the control panel and search for recovery
[22:55] <ImActuallyACat> in win7?
[22:56] <Krixvar> sorry to ask again.. just totally lost as to why I no longer can run nvidia-xconfig - I asked a friend who recently updated as well and he is still able to
[22:56] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: yeah, i'm not sure about win7, win8 has it
[22:56] <Dako300> I have a Dell Latitude D620 that I want to use Intel graphics for. I set the BIOS to onboard graphics but the nouveau driver keeps on loading. I tried to blacklist it but it does not load i915. Is there any way to fix this. I believe this laptop is too old for Optimus.
[22:57] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: if it's not there, follow this guide to make one http://en.kioskea.net/faq/29462-windows-7-create-a-system-repair-usb-key
[22:57] <nahtnam> eeee When I try running ~/bin/path/to/executable/shout I get this error: `[15957:0921/155715:INFO:gpu_info_collector_x11.cc(80)] NVCtrl extension does not exist.`
[22:58] <eeee> nahtnam: are you using the open source drivers?
[22:59] <nahtnam> eeee My laptop drivers? They are System 76 drivers
[22:59] <eeee> nahtnam: not sure what the program does, but usually if you need gpu stuff you'd need the proprietary drivers
[22:59] <CasW> Hey guys, I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 and it can't discover any bluetooth devices, even though (from dmesg) bluetooth appears to be properly initialized
[22:59] <nahtnam> eeee Oh lol
[22:59] <nahtnam> I think I figured it out
[22:59] <nahtnam> Thanks
[22:59] <nahtnam> :P
[23:01] <mavenblue> hey, I got a question about dual monitors: why does ubuntu insist that the monitor on the left is the primary monitor?
[23:02] <eeee> mavenblue: i think you can drag and rearrange them in settings > display
[23:03] <mavenblue> I've tried display settings, catalyst settins, xrandr settings, I can make my right monitor primary, but as soon as I tell ubuntu that it's on the right side my task bar etc jump to the left
[23:05] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: okay, i followed and finished those steps, what next?
[23:06] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: ok, boot it in the pc
[23:06] <mavenblue> eeee: yeah, I can tell linux which monitor is on which side, but it refuses to allow the one shown as being on the right side to be the primary display
[23:06] <CasW> Sorry, it crashed. Anyone have a solution for Ubuntu not being able to detect any devices even though dmesg says it's properly initialized? One thing that caught my attention is the fact that it seems that there are two bluetooth controllers
[23:07] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: now i get "disk i/o error"
[23:07] <mavenblue> as soon as I click "right of" "crt2" everything jumps to the left display
[23:08] <eeee> mavenblue: try to turn off monitor you want as secondary, and press apply
[23:08] <eeee> mavenblue: then turn it back on
[23:09] <mavenblue> eeee: same dif
[23:10] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: booting the usb is giving that?
[23:10] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: yes.
[23:10] <ImActuallyACat> should i try a different usb drive?
[23:10] <eeee> yes,
[23:11] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: you could also try to boot it on the other pc
[23:11] <ImActuallyACat> okay, give me a little bit.
[23:12] <eeee> mavenblue: you did turn it off in settings > display right?
[23:13] <eeee> mavenblue: in settings, there should be launcher placement
[23:16] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: any luck?
[23:20] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: if you have a win8 pc, you can make a recovery usb for win7 there
[23:20] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: working on it now, i'm trying a different usb.
[23:21] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: nope, no luck.
[23:21] <eeee> argh
[23:22] <eeee> also i/o error?
[23:22] <ImActuallyACat> now i get "remove disks or other media. press any key to restart"
[23:23] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: is the USB's priority first in the boot options?
[23:23] <ImActuallyACat> yes.
[23:24] <ImActuallyACat> when i press a key, it brings me back to just "1234F:"
[23:24] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: what kind of usb is it?
[23:25] <ImActuallyACat> a 1gb crucial gizmo! jr.
[23:25] <daftykins> 0o
[23:27] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: does the usb boot in the other pc?
[23:27] <ImActuallyACat> give me a second to try.
[23:27] <daftykins> ok, but only one!
[23:28] <eeee> :)
[23:30] <ImActuallyACat> nope, same error on a different computer.
[23:31] <daftykins> what are you guys trying to get this second drive to boot?
[23:31] <ImActuallyACat> should i format that usb, and make it a bootable usb with boot-repair-disk?
[23:33] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: yes, give it a shot
[23:34] <eeee> daftykins: we're trying to use boot a win7 recovery usb to fix the mbr and bs
[23:34] <daftykins> is that not something just reinstalling GRUB can sort?
[23:34] <eeee> daftykins: i think he is running windows only
[23:34] <eeee> good question though
[23:34] <eeee> lol
[23:35] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: are you running windows only??
[23:35] <ImActuallyACat> on the drive that i'm trying to fix? no, ubuntu only.
[23:35] <eeee> :D
[23:35]  * daftykins wondered where the Windows boot factored in
[23:35] <eeee> well, that's great!
[23:36] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: boot a live usb
[23:36] <ImActuallyACat> okay.
[23:37] <ImActuallyACat> is xubuntu okay? that's the only one i have right now.
[23:37] <daftykins> yip
[23:37] <ImActuallyACat> okay cool.
[23:39] <ImActuallyACat> okay, in xubuntu.
[23:39] <eeee> ok is this efi ?
[23:39] <ImActuallyACat> efi?
[23:39] <eeee> if you do sudo parted -l , what partitions do you get
[23:40] <daftykins> eeee: nah msdos
[23:40] <eeee> daftykins: ah, right.
[23:40] <daftykins> worth us seeing an updated parted -l anyway though i'd say
[23:40] <daftykins> given all that testdisk confusion
[23:40] <eeee> yeah
[23:40] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:41] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[23:41] <eeee> then sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[23:41] <Krixvar> So I've cycled through 2 proprietary drivers from the ubuntu repos as well as one from xorg-edgers, and they're all behaving the same... so I feel like it was something else. How can I see what packages got updated yesterday when I ran apt-get upgrade?
[23:42] <daftykins> Krixvar: dunno, but pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:42] <daftykins> Krixvar: also "dpkg -l | grep nvidia"
[23:42] <trism> Krixvar: /var/log/apt/history.log will show you exactly what got upgraded
[23:42] <ImActuallyACat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8399710/
[23:42] <Krixvar> thanks one sec
[23:43] <Krixvar> xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8399717/
[23:44] <Krixvar> dpkg -l : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8399724/
[23:45] <Krixvar> I've also tried nvidia-304 from repos and 340 from edgers (removed edgers with ppa purge after it didn't work any different)
[23:45] <X3fyr> this is probably asked a lot but is there anyway to move the launcher to the bottom of the screen?
[23:46] <daftykins> Krixvar: what ubuntu version is this? "cat /etc/issue"
[23:46] <daftykins> ah nm i read the wrong line
[23:46] <reisio> X3fyr: yes
[23:46] <X3fyr> 14.04
[23:46] <bubbasaures> X3fyr, No but there are docks
[23:46] <reisio> X3fyr: there's a bug on launchpad about it, and there are solutions in its comments
[23:47] <Krixvar> daftykins -- 14.04, Kubuntu but I think this is a general ubuntu/nvidia
[23:47] <daftykins> Krixvar: yeah your nvidia install is trashed, you have no built modules for the current kernel
[23:47] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: sudo sh -ec "apt-get install lvm2; vgchange -ay"
[23:47] <Guest57479> bonsoir
[23:47] <daftykins> Krixvar: "sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia* "
[23:48] <Krixvar> daftykins: I've done that between every reinstall but I'll try again, should I install any headers or dev files so it actually builds it?
[23:48] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: just did that.
[23:48] <daftykins> Krixvar: install nvidia-current and see that it actually generates it
[23:48] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[23:49] <ImActuallyACat> unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[23:49] <Krixvar> daftykins: gotcha, I'll get back to you in a sec.. feeling like this is somehow related to the fact that I've had to manually modprobe nvidia_331 in a tty before logging in for the last few months... hadn't ever had time to fix it
[23:50] <daftykins> Krixvar: lmao
[23:50] <Krixvar> daftykins: pretty much
[23:50] <OERIAS> ?join #ISIL
[23:50] <daftykins> Krixvar: and you only mention this NOW!? *faepalm*
[23:51] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: try sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /mnt
[23:51] <Krixvar> daftykins: it technically worked fine :P plus getting a terminal on login kept people from logging in without me around 0.o
[23:51] <Krixvar> looks like the install worked http://paste.ubuntu.com/8399749/
[23:51] <ImActuallyACat> okay did that.
[23:51] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Krixvar Maybe ->above command will also remove the nvidia-common package and the nvidia-common package has as a dependency the ubuntu-desktop package (??).
[23:52] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot
[23:52] <daftykins> Krixvar: i take it you've been modprobing it now and restarting X after to test?
[23:52] <ImActuallyACat> okay.
[23:52] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[23:52] <Krixvar> daftykins: that or rebooting since this morning I tried modprobing and it did nothing but a reboot resulted in a low res login
[23:52] <daftykins> Krixvar: so now "sudo service lightdm restart"
[23:53] <Krixvar> daftykins: no modprobe first?
[23:53] <ImActuallyACat> sorry, i don't quite understand that.
[23:53] <daftykins> Krixvar: no, nor should it ever be necessary
[23:53] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: it's a command
[23:53] <Krixvar> daftykins: interesting okay, be right back
[23:54] <ImActuallyACat> type, "sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i"?
[23:54] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: type his whole line "for...
[23:54] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: no run the whole command, "for ....done"
[23:54] <ImActuallyACat> ahh okay.
[23:55] <Krixvar> daftykins: should have known better than to run it from the desktop.. ran it again from a tty and got a low res login page again
[23:55] <Krixvar> daftykins: dpm
[23:55] <ImActuallyACat> okay done.
[23:55] <Krixvar> daftykins: whoops, don't* have any higher resolutions available either
[23:55] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: chroot /mnt
[23:56] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: sorry, sudo chroot /mnt
[23:56] <ImActuallyACat> operation not permitted.
[23:56] <daftykins> Krixvar: do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? delete it if so
[23:56] <ImActuallyACat> okay done.
[23:56] <daftykins> Krixvar: rather, rename it to xorg.conf.old
[23:57] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[23:57] <Krixvar> daftykins: did that earlier I believe, there's nothing there now
[23:57] <smart_developer> How do you (1) count how many processes are currently running, and (2) set the maximum number of processes running for a user ?
[23:57] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: might not need sudo there
[23:57] <Krixvar> daftykins: also strange is that the nvidia-xconfig command doesn't exist on my computer now
[23:57] <ImActuallyACat> installation finished, no error reported.
[23:58] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: update-grub
[23:58] <daftykins> Krixvar: you definitely checked ?
[23:58] <Krixvar> daftykins: yeah, nano says new file
[23:58] <ImActuallyACat> done.
[23:58] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: type exit
[23:58] <Krixvar> daftykins: running xrandr gives "Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[23:58] <Krixvar> " so I feel like this is a larger issue than the graphics drivers :(
[23:58] <ImActuallyACat> okay.
[23:58] <daftykins> Krixvar: nano? lol man don't do things such a weird way. "ls -al /etc/X11/
[23:58] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: sudo reboot
[23:59] <ImActuallyACat> should i remove the usb?
[23:59] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: yeah, let it boot without it
[23:59] <ImActuallyACat> okay.