[06:31] <soee> good morning
[08:39] <Riddell> thanks ScottK.  we were --><-- that close.  but for some last minute and legally dubious promises by the no camp it would have happened
[09:17] <apachelogger> sgclark, Riddell: why does systemsettings have a data package Oo
[09:19] <Riddell> apachelogger: probably we packaged it when we thought adding data packages was the thing to do, feel free to change it
[09:20] <apachelogger> meh
[09:20] <apachelogger> Riddell: are you going to handle frameworks -> git?
[09:20] <Riddell> could do, although not today
[09:20] <apachelogger> needs to get done this week
[09:20] <Riddell> why this week?
[09:21] <apachelogger> the sooner the better and bzr is getting in the way of CI
[09:21] <apachelogger> see mail about CI from last week
[09:21] <Riddell> oh ok, e-mail is top of my todo list now
[09:21] <Riddell> then testing all sgclark's packaging for the last week
[09:22] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion calligra 2.8.6
[09:22] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1372365
[09:23] <Riddell> hmm beta 2 this week
[09:40] <apachelogger> sent another mail
[09:40] <apachelogger> Riddell: #kubuntu-ci for notification
[09:40] <apachelogger> btw
[10:06] <apachelogger> did anyone look at kdevelop btw
[10:49] <ScottK> Riddell: It'll be interesting to see what the Westminster parties do with their promises.  If they actually follow through, it'll be quite a change for all the UK.
[11:30] <Mamarok> ScottK: politicians and promises: don't expect too much...
[11:30] <ScottK> Of course. 
[11:37] <sgclark_> bnc stole my nick and I can't figure it out lol
[12:04] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:27] <sgclark> hiyas
[12:28] <sgclark> arg, znc... I am not sleeping, I don't get this
[12:29] <Riddell> hi sgclark
[12:29] <Riddell> kubotu: newpackage digikam 4.3.0
[12:29] <kubotu> Package digikam already exists!
[12:30] <sgclark> anyone working on calligra? or is there anything else on my priority Riddell? and hi
[12:32] <Riddell> hi sgclark, I'm still getting back up to speed
[12:32] <Riddell> but nobody is working on calligra that I know of
[12:33] <Riddell> kubotu: newpackage meta-kde-telepathy 0.8.80
[12:33] <kubotu> Package meta-kde-telepathy already exists!
[12:33] <Riddell> kubotu: newpackage libkpeople 0.3.0
[12:33]  * sgclark assigns herself
[12:33] <kubotu> Package libkpeople already exists!
[12:33] <Riddell> hmm
[12:33] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion meta-kde-telepathy 0.8.80
[12:33] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion libkpeople 0.3.0
[12:33] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1372434
[12:33] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1372435
[12:34] <Riddell> sgclark: bug 1372365
[12:34] <Riddell> sgclark: what do I need to be looking at for review/upload? SC and Frameworks?
[12:34] <sgclark> SC Frameworks Plasma Kdevelop
[12:35] <sgclark> Kdevelop in my ppa
[12:35] <sgclark> I can't get rid of sgclark_sleeping nick /cry
[12:36] <sgclark> And there is a user patiently waiting for kdevelop if you could do that one first.
[12:39] <Riddell> sgclark: for utopic and trusty?
[12:39] <Riddell> sgclark: kdevelop for utopic and trusty?
[12:42] <sgclark> err only utopic atm, want trusty too?
[13:07] <Riddell> sgclark: you say there is a user waiting for it? they usually only ask for the stable release, or did they ask for utopic?
[13:14] <sgclark> Riddell: oh I don't know. I can backport it to trusty.
[13:15] <Riddell> sgclark: probably nice to have a backport, but only if you have time and energy
[13:27] <Riddell> sgclark: could you file a quick feature freeze exception bug for kdevelop 4.7.0? just say upstream requests it for better support of KF5 
[13:33] <Riddell> sgclark: do you know what's in that kdev-python-1.7.0-py3.tar.xz tar?
[13:34] <lordievader> Isn't that the python plugin for Kdevelop?
[13:35] <Riddell> turns out it's the python 3 version while kdev-python-1.7.0.tar.xz is the python 2 version
[13:35] <Riddell> not sure the tar name there makes any sense
[13:36] <lordievader> Yes, there are two version. Too bad not both can be installed. By the way the developer of the plugin is in #kde, FYI.
[13:36] <Riddell> I'm chatting now in #kdevelop
[13:37] <lordievader> scummos is his nick.
[13:37] <Riddell> kubotu: newpackage kdev-python-py3
[13:37] <kubotu> incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help newpackage'
[13:37] <Riddell> hmm
[13:38] <Riddell> kubotu: help newpackage
[13:38] <kubotu> newpackage <packagename> <version> [description]; Adds needs-packaging bug for entirely new package.
[13:38] <kubotu>                 newversion <packagename> <version> [description]; Adds update bug for existing package.
[13:38] <kubotu>                 buildstatus <packagename> [release] [ppa]; Buildstatus for package.
[13:38] <Riddell> kubotu: newpackage kdev-python-py3 1.7.0 python3 version of kdevelop plugin
[13:38] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1372471
[13:38] <Riddell> thanks kubotu 
[13:41] <apachelogger> today is not my day
[13:42]  * Riddell hugs apachelogger 
[13:49] <sgclark> Riddell: oh sorry looks like I missed a tar? was working on too many things at once :(
[13:52] <Riddell> sgclark: well that's a new tar that'll need new packaging, worth doing it as a separate task
[13:53] <sgclark> ok
[14:05] <Riddell> sgclark: so, FFe for kdevelop?
[14:07] <sgclark> Riddell: gosh sorry, still trying to fix my desktop. Will do that now.
[14:07] <Riddell> sgclark: infact just reuse bug 1362107
[14:09] <sgclark> Riddell: reuse? Add a comment with FFe?
[14:09] <Riddell> sgclark: yeah
[14:18] <sgclark> good grief I can't post attachments all in one comment?
[14:19] <Riddell> for some reason that's never been possible
[14:21] <sgclark> Riddell: did you move it to somewhere more appropriate than my ppa?
[14:21] <Riddell> sgclark: kdevelop? no I'll just upload to the archive
[14:22] <Riddell> if you or someone does a trusty backport that should build wherever then be moved to kubuntu-ppa/backports
[14:26] <Riddell> sgclark: I wouldn't bother adding all the build logs, just pointing to the PPA should be enough
[14:27] <sgclark> ok
[14:28] <Riddell> uploaded! muchos gracias!
[14:29] <Riddell> sgclark: did I see you filing a KF5 FFe request somewhere?
[14:29] <sgclark> Riddell: You told me to re-use 1362107 so that is what I did..
[14:31] <Riddell> sgclark: for kdevelop, uploaded, all done, I'm onto KF5 now
[14:31] <Riddell> hmm, still lots of red on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_5.2.0_utopic.html
[14:32] <sgclark> Riddell: oh so I can stop adding attachments for FFe?
[14:32] <sgclark> Riddell: right all arm, the qemu is giving segfaults... nothing I can do, I am told it should compile on native? I don't have access to arm sorry
[14:33] <Riddell> sgclark: when I look over a FFe with my release-team hat I look for what reason for the risk (new featuers? does it fix anything?) are the new feature (so a link to a changelog typically) and if bugs happen what will break and has it been packaged and tested so a link to a PPA typically
[14:34] <sgclark> Riddell: and all the orange is lintain false positives. Please see my notes on https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas-frameworks
[14:35] <kubotu> feed branches had 25 updates, showing the latest 6
[14:37] <Riddell> sgclark: missing file in frameworkintegration still or is that known? http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_5.2.0_utopic.html
[14:40] <sgclark> possibly missed, looking
[14:44] <agaida_> hi
[14:44] <agaida_> apachelogger: around?
[14:45] <apachelogger> agaida_: ahoy
[14:46] <agaida_> moin - i've seen your package polkit-qt5-1 for ubuntu - did the same for siduction. Any idea how to get this into debian
[14:46] <agaida_> ?
[14:46] <sgclark> Riddell: fixed, ppa7 up
[14:47] <apachelogger> agaida_: hurl package at some debian dev I guess
[14:47] <Riddell> sgclark: lovely
[14:47] <Riddell> sgclark: will you file a FFe for KF5? just needs to say that nothing uses it so no chance of breakage
[14:47] <sgclark> Riddell: I already did
[14:47] <Riddell> sgclark: ooh what beastie number?
[14:49] <Riddell> !testers | nestarresetw mesa https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1364003  ppa:canonical-x/x-staging
[14:49] <agaida_> apachelogger: sorry for my english - did you any steps to get your polkit into debian, should we bundle our efforts - what you think about?
[14:49]  * agaida_ thinK - manchmal ist deutsch einfacher
[14:49] <sgclark> Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1371211
[14:54] <apachelogger> agaida_: I haven't taken any steps, but we are preparing to attempt consolidating our frameworks packaging with debian, so that we stop duplicating efforts and make merging changes easier. ultimately all this stuff would end up on git.debian.org
[14:54] <apachelogger> I doubt anyone feels like landing polkitqt5 before freeze in november though, seeing as frameworks itself isn't going to land either
[14:56] <agaida_> the problem is - it should, we (debian-lxqt - Team in Gründung) need this for LXQt - and we wan't to get the packages into debian before freeze
[14:58] <agaida_> i don't know if you read the reaction in qt-kde yesterday. Unfortunally sune and others like us much - reason well known. Sad, but reality.
[15:00] <apachelogger> I have not
[15:00]  * apachelogger starts scrolling xD
[15:00] <agaida_> look for devil :)
[15:01] <agaida_> starts 20:41
[15:02] <Riddell> Seviciu? who he?
[15:04] <agaida_> apachelogger: and as clarification  - i'm not asking with my siduction hat on, i wear at the moment my LXQt Hat :)
[15:05] <apachelogger> yeah
[15:06] <apachelogger> thing is, it is very reasonable to not want a library that is not going to be used by software in the debian repo
[15:11] <agaida_> true
[15:13] <Pali> hello, this commit http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-dev-tools/trunk/revision/196 cause that pull-ppa-source does not find any package in any ppa anymore
[15:14] <agaida_> apachelogger: yesterday was the first try - we wanted to be the nice guys - but ok, to be true - i'm not overly surprised about the reaction 
[15:14] <Pali> looks like that it match only one status and thus after package change status from Pending to Published it is not found by pull-ppa-source anymore
[15:16] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ^ that's not how the api works
[15:16] <apachelogger> you'd have to do two queries  for the two states
[15:16] <apachelogger> or get all and filter from there
[15:17] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: the master of lunchpad, wgrant, commanded that I use that query
[15:17] <shadeslayer> all hail the wgrant
[15:17] <Riddell> Pali: are you using our scripts? what for?
[15:18] <Pali> download package from ppa
[15:18] <Pali> now tryting to build kde4.14 on my precise box
[15:18] <Riddell> ooh nice
[15:18] <apachelogger> agaida_: well, file an ITP and see if you can find a debian-kde guy to sponsor I guess
[15:18] <apachelogger> not much to be done I guess
[15:19] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: it still makes no sense :P
[15:19] <apachelogger> or maybe the api makes no sense :P
[15:19] <apachelogger> apiwise there is no order established between states
[15:19] <shadeslayer> what
[15:19] <shadeslayer> I thought it was pending -> something -> published
[15:19] <shadeslayer> oh hm
[15:19] <apachelogger> not on the api it isnt
[15:19] <shadeslayer> though I think I understand the issue
[15:19] <apachelogger> or the api at least is not written that way
[15:19] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:20] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: though you're right
[15:20] <shadeslayer> needs 2 states
[15:20] <shadeslayer> pending + published
[15:20] <agaida_> no, take the current sources, add the qt5 things and build both sets of packages from the same source. - Ok, we will do it that way
[15:21] <shadeslayer> Pali: apachelogger http://paste.ubuntu.com/8403929/
[15:21] <shadeslayer> plz try out
[15:22] <apachelogger> agaida_: as always that sounds overly cumbersome :P
[15:23] <agaida_> it isn't
[15:23] <apachelogger> oh noes, I missed a hangout
[15:24] <Pali> shadeslayer: TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +=: 'Collection' and 'Collection'
[15:28] <shadeslayer> wat
[15:28] <shadeslayer> fffu
[15:28] <apachelogger> python
[15:28] <apachelogger> such a lovely language
[15:28] <shadeslayer> ^^
[15:28] <shadeslayer> wgrant: ^^ halp
[15:29] <shadeslayer> wgrant: how would I add two collections
[15:30] <Pali> try something like: sources = Pending ...\n if not sources:\n sources = Published ...\n if not sources:\n print error
[15:31] <Pali> quick hack (not tested, but I think it could work :-))
[15:32] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: .extend()?
[15:32] <apachelogger> alternatively I suppose you could simply throw everything into a list and do a nested iter
[15:35] <kubotu> feed branches had 25 updates, showing the latest 6
[15:35] <sgclark> yay desktop functional. Riddell: anything have priority on my new pile of to-dos?
[15:35] <apachelogger> mh
[15:36] <apachelogger> this code is weird
[15:36] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you cannot merge collections apparently
[15:36] <shadeslayer> great
[15:36] <apachelogger> at least I cannot find a base that would offer anything that looks mergy
[15:36] <apachelogger> so either you have to put them into a list and nested iter
[15:36] <shadeslayer> jebus
[15:36] <Riddell> sgclark: well done!
[15:36] <apachelogger> or you change the code to not require holding the collections at all
[15:36] <apachelogger> which probably is the smarter thing to do
[15:37] <Riddell> sgclark: packaging calligra (it's a beast!), telepathy-kde beta, digikam, testing for beta 2 on thursday, fixing up kubuntu-plasma5 issues, take your pick :)
[15:38] <Riddell> sgclark: packaging new kwayland (which isn't released yet), packaging that kdevelop python3 plugin
[15:38] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: Pali what happens if you remove status="Pending"
[15:38] <sgclark> Riddell: I will package calligra - can work on my blog while it compiles =P
[15:38] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: Pali i.e. don't specify a status in the LP call
[15:39] <shadeslayer> bah
[15:39] <apachelogger> seems silly
[15:40] <shadeslayer> elif len(sources) > 1:
[15:40] <apachelogger> then you could find a superseded source
[15:40] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:40] <shadeslayer> hm
[15:40] <shadeslayer> this is bullcrap
[15:41] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion grantlee 0.5.1
[15:41] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion grantlee 5.0.0
[15:41] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: y u no refactor
[15:41] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1372518
[15:41] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1372519
[15:41] <Riddell> sgclark: remember calligra-l10n while you're at it, I still like my script in kubuntu-automation to help with that
[15:42] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ENOTIMEFORTHIS
[15:42] <shadeslayer> other stuff takes priority
[15:42] <shadeslayer> Pali: refactor the code :p
[15:42] <Pali> shadeslayer: Internal error: len(sources) > 1
[15:42] <shadeslayer> Pali: right 
[15:42] <sgclark> ok
[15:43] <apachelogger> argh, lunchpad logs are gziped
[15:43] <apachelogger> :@
[15:44] <shadeslayer> yep
[15:44] <shadeslayer> muwhaha
[15:46] <apachelogger> now I broke my byobu
[15:46] <apachelogger> the outrage
[16:21] <Riddell> sgclark: KDE SC 4.14.1 uploaded! thanks ever so much for your packaging
[16:21] <Riddell> we'll need to poke it through utopic some still I expect
[16:21] <sgclark> poke it?
[16:34] <Riddell> sgclark: typically launchpad isn't always as clever as it should be in working out the ordering and you need to click retry at times
[16:34] <Riddell> sgclark: e.g. kdevelop needs it now
[16:34] <sgclark> ahh yes right.
[16:35] <kubotu> feed branches had 25 updates, showing the latest 6
[18:05] <Riddell> sgclark, shadeslayer: I take it the KF5 upload needs pkg-kde-tools 0.15.15 from the PPA?
[18:06] <sgclark> Riddell: ahh for the version 3? yeah I am guessing so
[18:07]  * Riddell uploads pkg-kde-tools
[18:09] <Riddell> sgclark: any idea where extra-cmake-modules 1.3.0 comes from? I don't see it on depot
[18:10] <Riddell> ah you made it "Git snapshot needed to allow qmldir to follow qt_sys_path."
[18:10] <sgclark> Riddell: right ^
[18:11] <Riddell> sgclark: best give it a version number that makes it obvious it's not an upstream release, I'll upload it now with that change
[18:11] <sgclark> thanks
[18:11]  * Riddell picks 1.3.0~git20140917-0ubuntu1
[18:27] <Riddell> KF5 uploaded, thanks for all your awesomeness sgclark!
[18:28] <sgclark> np
[18:30] <kubotu> feed branches-next had 25 updates, showing the latest 6
[20:18] <soee_> sgclark: ping
[20:20] <shadeslayer> ScottK: dide
[20:20] <shadeslayer> ScottK: dude
[20:20] <shadeslayer> ScottK: can you order Scotch online?
[20:20]  * shadeslayer wants some laphroaig
[20:21] <ScottK> That would be Whisky.
[20:21] <shadeslayer> right
[20:22] <ScottK> Careful.  You may cause Riddell to take a break from his pacifism.
[20:22] <shadeslayer> hah
[20:22] <ScottK> No idea.
[20:22] <shadeslayer> ok
[20:22] <shadeslayer> I shall go on a quest tomorrow
[20:22] <shadeslayer> to find me some laphroaig
[20:24] <ScottK> laphroaig.com offers to sell it to me, so presumably I could.
[20:26] <shadeslayer> I bet the customs are crazy on this stuff
[20:26] <ScottK> Probably.
[20:26] <shadeslayer> 80 GBP for 18 year old 
[20:26] <shadeslayer> qq
[20:28] <soee> gusy what is the status of plasma 5.0.2 ? yesterday sgclark said its almost ready to test
[22:01] <valorie> weeeee, back from the cabin
[22:02] <valorie> speaking of whisky, we polished off a bottle of The Glenlivet
[22:02] <valorie> most tasty
[22:02] <valorie> even in the breakfast fruit
[22:04] <valorie> now time to do a quick clean of the house
[22:29] <sgclark> soee: it is ready for testing in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next-staging . Sorry a few minutes turned into a few hours.