[01:36] <dna113p> Anyone experienced with openbox know if I could set a double key keybind, kind of like double click but I want to make a double tap of the win key toggle something
[01:38] <dna113p> I don't see anything like that in the open box wiki for that particular thing, any way it might work?
[01:39] <BuntuTech> i would like to submit my version of optional lubuntu wallpaper that hopefully would be listed in wallaper in the OS
[01:40] <BuntuTech> i do not see screenshot option so far n lubuntu is there on that i am missing?
[01:40] <BuntuTech> ima upload this to imgur
[02:08] <urielvigilant> If i need to install Lubuntu or Ubuntu 14.04.1 in a new laptop later, to get all my stuffs, like settings and drivers for scan and printer, or make wifi detectable and other like playing DVDi just need to copy Home folder to the new laptop and instalation Ubuntu or Lubuntu?
[02:11] <BuntuTech> are you asking us if you need to backup your personal data before reinstalling?
[02:13] <BuntuTech> but as far as making the wifi work - i find it works straight away - simply by installing ubuntu while being hardwired to the internet during the installation, I have had the same occur with printers - leave them plugged in during installation. Of course back up all data before you begin.
[02:15] <BuntuTech> ubuntu idles at around 700-800mb ram before loading up more programs, lubuntu idles at around 180mb ram until you load up more programs, so choose which one you want to use accordingly.
[02:16] <urielvigilant> i will need to reinstall scanner and printer, bcm 4311 always in this old laptop,
[02:17] <urielvigilant> some console typing to play dvds on VLC
[02:17] <urielvigilant> some console typing to improve graphics
[02:18] <urielvigilant> humm i think also some console typing to make Lubuntu recognize my usb LTE 4g internet provider
[02:18] <BuntuTech> well by backing up everything you will always have better chances and maybe if you are lucky the OS will pull drivers for you and install that stuff automatically...unless it is very odd or outdated.
[02:19] <BuntuTech> you can always check with the manufacturers up front before you reinstall too make sure they have driver support.
[02:19] <BuntuTech> i have a 20 year old laser printer that i could never get to work in ubuntu.
[02:19] <BuntuTech> hehe
[02:20] <BuntuTech> what OS are you using now urielvigilant ?
[02:21] <urielvigilant> Lubuntu 14.04 in a ACer Extensa 5204 Wlmi with 500 RAM upgraded to 2Gb Ram
[02:22] <BuntuTech> so all your stuff works now and you are concerned it may not work if you upgrade
[02:22] <urielvigilant> I want to by  a new laptop. I dont know if to stay with Lubuntu , or install Ubuntu and use Lubuntu graphics
[02:22] <urielvigilant> iam already upgraded. Iwant a new lapptop
[02:23] <BuntuTech> i like them both equally i use ubuntu if i have huge hardware
[02:23] <BuntuTech> i have a 7 year old laptop with a amd turion dual core and 2gb ram and a smal dedicated graphics card - i like lubuntu in that one
[02:24] <BuntuTech> my new stuff gets ubuntu - they are all quad cores with 8-12 gb ram
[02:24] <urielvigilant> i dont like very much " Unity" i think is the way to surf inside OS in Ubuntu doensit ?
[02:24] <BuntuTech> but thats just me
[02:24] <BuntuTech> i am one of the ones that does like unity - but i really like lubuntu too
[02:25] <BuntuTech> i like how lubuntu only uses about 180mb ram....
[02:25] <BuntuTech> and i have customized it too my liking
[02:25] <urielvigilant> So if i put Lubuntu in a new laptop with I5 processor and 6 GB ram will be a wast of hardware ?
[02:26] <BuntuTech> i am in lubuntu right now in a VM and it only has 1 core and i gave it 2 gb ram and it runs fantastic
[02:27] <BuntuTech> if i had to choose between installing ubuntu and then changing it to lxde ...or just installing lubuntu and adding what i want i personally would take lubuntu
[02:27] <BuntuTech> in that instance
[02:27] <BuntuTech> well i5 and  6 gb will run anything
[02:27] <urielvigilant> Lubuntu run fast for me now, but my laptop chassis is broken, we feel this when open or close  the screen, all laptop plastics start to desitegrated
[02:28] <BuntuTech> so it comes down to personal prefernce if you donlt like unity then id do lubuntu
[02:28] <urielvigilant> my batery is almost death, i need a laptop to use outo of home.
[02:28] <BuntuTech> i would do lubuntu
[02:28] <urielvigilant> my only with plug
[02:28] <BuntuTech> it will run like a rocket
[02:28] <BuntuTech> haha i5 and 6 gb ram on lubuntu
[02:29] <BuntuTech> its easier to get wifi and printers running in ubuntu though
[02:29] <BuntuTech> in my opinion
[02:29] <urielvigilant> If i do Ubuntu and then change screen to Lubuntu, it will act so fast as Ubuntu or Lubuntu ?
[02:29] <BuntuTech> will speed it up a bit
[02:29] <urielvigilant> but never so fast as pure Lubuntu doensit ?
[02:30] <BuntuTech> i tried that desktop change once i did exactly what u said i tok ubuntu and changed to lxde and i didi not like it
[02:30] <BuntuTech> but thats me
[02:30] <BuntuTech> i prefer to leave the OS the way the dev's made it
[02:31] <urielvigilant> Another thinkg i felt Lubuntu is more bright in graphics
[02:31] <BuntuTech> u can always test in a VM...what is the host OS going to be in the new laptop?
[02:31] <urielvigilant> no
[02:31] <urielvigilant> Ubuntu is more brighter
[02:32] <BuntuTech> yeah ubuntu is LOADED up with drivers and codecs
[02:32] <urielvigilant> i dont know if it is to use more colors or so...
[02:32] <BuntuTech> has become a big OS
[02:32] <urielvigilant> So maybe Ubuntu in a I5 with 4 or 6 GB ram, run so fast then Lubuntu in my laptop now
[02:33] <BuntuTech> yeah
[02:33] <BuntuTech> that i5 will run ubuntu fast
[02:33] <BuntuTech> i have one of those i5 in a laptop with 4 gb ram it runs ubuntu well and its 4 years old
[02:35] <urielvigilant> No iam checking here, i think i will buy this one http://tiendas.mediamarkt.es/p/ordenador-portatil-packard-bell-enle69kb-amd-e2-3800-ram-4gb-dvd-8x-supermulti-1243180
[02:35] <BuntuTech> mt graphics look bright in lubuntu
[02:35] <urielvigilant> or maybe this one http://tiendas.mediamarkt.es/p/ordenador-portatil-packard-bell-easynote-le-69-amd-quad-core-e2-3800-8gb-1221798
[02:36] <urielvigilant> I think none of those are I5
[02:36] <urielvigilant> AMd quad core with 8 GB RAM
[02:36] <BuntuTech> yeah that a little amd quad core
[02:37] <BuntuTech> amd are cool i like the intel better though
[02:37] <BuntuTech> intel and buntu seems to really get along well
[02:38] <urielvigilant> For a little bit more"ding ding i can have a I3 with 4GB Ram http://tiendas.mediamarkt.es/p/ordenador-portatil-hp-pavilion-notebook-pc-17-f003ns-intel-core-i3-4030u-500gb-ram-4gb-1249829
[02:38] <urielvigilant> WIch one could be faster the AMd with 8GB RAm or the I3 with 4 GB RAM
[02:38] <urielvigilant> ?
[02:38] <BuntuTech> i3 is faster
[02:38] <BuntuTech> but if u open too many programs at once...
[02:39] <BuntuTech> u need ram so then the amd would be fsaster
[02:39] <urielvigilant> Even lower in Ram  ? Woow i had no idea
[02:39] <urielvigilant> hoo ok
[02:39] <BuntuTech> its faster UNTIL u open too many things
[02:39] <BuntuTech> or if u run some big ram intensive things
[02:40] <BuntuTech> what do use the computer for?
[02:40] <urielvigilant> If i work only with word processor i3 with 4gb ram is faster , if i work with word processo, browser, excell processor same tima amd with 8gb ram is faster oes int ?
[02:40] <BuntuTech> yeah simple processing with not a lot of stuff open i3 will win
[02:41] <urielvigilant> and save more energy doesnit , so battery last long
[02:41] <BuntuTech> yeah i3 is more efficient
[02:42] <BuntuTech> intel, if u compare smae class of hardware wins in speed and temp and uses less enrgy
[02:42] <BuntuTech> you can compare cpu's at gamedebate.com
[02:43] <BuntuTech> it will tell u the watts they both use and which is faster
[02:43] <BuntuTech> and a lot more
[02:43] <urielvigilant> if it comes with windows 8, i can keep booth . but iam afraid, because in anterior experiences in this laptop i always corrupted GRubed at some time . . .and lost everything
[02:43] <urielvigilant> for more then one time
[02:43] <BuntuTech> thats why i like VM
[02:43] <BuntuTech> i do not like dual boot
[02:44] <BuntuTech> i would run w8 as host and lubuntu or ubuntu in the VM
[02:44] <urielvigilant> how to do that ?
[02:44] <BuntuTech> install a free VM in the w8 OS  for example i am doing that right now using VMware
[02:44] <BuntuTech> free easy simply and rock steady
[02:44] <urielvigilant> i nver heard about VM
[02:45] <urielvigilant> lolol too newby
[02:45] <BuntuTech> virtual machine
[02:45] <BuntuTech> even ubuntu has that they call it virtual box
[02:46] <urielvigilant> So when i got the laptop i install a  windows 8 virtual machine
[02:46] <BuntuTech> you simply install a VM then you download a OS then you open the VM and it guides you thru instaqlling the OS  in the VM
[02:46] <urielvigilant> it run like an app on it ?
[02:46] <BuntuTech> no after you get the laptop the 1st thing u do is burnthe w8 back up recvoery disks
[02:46] <BuntuTech> do not forget that
[02:46] <urielvigilant> why ?
[02:47] <BuntuTech> becasue windows gets virus easy and u need the backup disks to be perfect
[02:47] <urielvigilant> ho ok
[02:47] <BuntuTech> by burning them before u go online you are assured of having good clean OS backup disks
[02:47] <urielvigilant> I just want windos to kep playing Onlive. Some week ago we can play it on Linux anymore.
[02:48] <BuntuTech> unless they gave them too you when u buy it but they quit doing that here
[02:48] <urielvigilant> we cant play Onlive anymore. .
[02:48] <BuntuTech> oncce u burn the recovery disks let w8 update - before going online
[02:48] <BuntuTech> then...
[02:48] <urielvigilant> yes
[02:49] <BuntuTech> make a 2nd account that one will be "standard account" NEVER EVER go online in the 1st logon account because it is ADMIN (root) and u will ruin the OS windows is weak
[02:49] <BuntuTech> after you have done all that...download and install the VMware  VM
[02:50] <urielvigilant> nice secure tip
[02:50] <BuntuTech> ans put your favorite linus distors in that
[02:50] <BuntuTech> i have w8 as host and ubuntu. lubuntu peppermint vista xp in my VM
[02:50] <urielvigilant> VMware install and acts as an windows app doesn it ?
[02:50] <BuntuTech> well not app no
[02:51] <urielvigilant> so aftr install how i run it ?
[02:51] <BuntuTech> its just a free download from VMware
[02:51] <BuntuTech> afeter install is a icon on desktop
[02:51] <BuntuTech> open it
[02:51] <urielvigilant> hooo ok
[02:51] <BuntuTech> and it will ask u to create a virtual machine
[02:51] <urielvigilant> and a windows will apear ?
[02:51] <BuntuTech> in fact just go to youtube and you will see how simple it actually is
[02:52] <urielvigilant> yes i will
[02:52] <BuntuTech> it practically does it for you leads you right into it
[02:52] <urielvigilant> it will install Linux, as an independent doesn it ?
[02:52] <BuntuTech> w8 is weak so i usually am in my VM in ubuntu or lubuntu
[02:52] <urielvigilant> When you reboot, it dont ask you what start first doesni t?
[02:53] <BuntuTech> wheni am doneusinfg the VM i just SUSPEND it
[02:53] <BuntuTech> so next time i use it   it loads back up FASt
[02:53] <BuntuTech> but thats just me
[02:53] <urielvigilant> But windows will be running at same time ?
[02:54] <BuntuTech> yes
[02:54] <BuntuTech> it is host
[02:54] <urielvigilant> That is not more danger ?
[02:54] <BuntuTech> but i make the vm full screen when i use it
[02:54] <urielvigilant> because windows is so vuilnarebale doent ?
[02:54] <urielvigilant> "vulnerable
[02:54] <BuntuTech> well u mus tunderstand that the VM cannot see windows
[02:54] <BuntuTech> the VM is trapped in a file under that NON admin acciunt
[02:54] <urielvigilant> So you think its simply  safe ?
[02:55] <BuntuTech> well i am saying the VM runs out of a file unde DOCUMENTS in that "standard account" u created
[02:55] <urielvigilant> I created an admin account ut i dont use it ? then i creat a 2 user on it and use that ?
[02:55] <urielvigilant> that it?
[02:55] <BuntuTech> exactly
[02:55] <urielvigilant> thank you  very much my friend. .
[02:56] <BuntuTech> windows is too weak to run around in admin all the time admnin is for repairs only
[02:56] <urielvigilant> thats what i will do .
[02:56] <BuntuTech> linux makes u non admin by default
[02:56] <urielvigilant> thats security
[02:56] <BuntuTech> windows makes u admin by default thus almost every person who deostn study computers is INFECTED in windows
[02:57] <BuntuTech> i fix them all the time
[02:57] <BuntuTech> haha they are so loaded with virus its rather funny
[02:57] <BuntuTech> in a more perfect work u would run linux as host OS and run w8 in the VM
[02:57] <BuntuTech> world*
[02:58] <BuntuTech> but since it is new and under warranty do not mess up the w8 installation
[02:58] <BuntuTech> but always burn those w8 recovery disk immediately
[02:59] <BuntuTech> or u can burn it too a usb
[02:59] <BuntuTech> it is built in to w8 from the factory to burn its own image to a usb by default
[03:01] <urielvigilant> i can understand how that dont spend more battery energy
[03:01] <urielvigilant> and how that dont spend more RA
[03:01] <urielvigilant> mmore Ram or more processor
[03:02] <urielvigilant> resources..
[03:02] <BuntuTech> well if ur on battery power only do not run w8 and the vm
[03:02] <BuntuTech> run w8
[03:02] <BuntuTech> it is very energy efficient
[03:03] <urielvigilant> more then Lubuntu alone ?
[03:03] <urielvigilant> or Ubuntu alone ?
[03:03] <BuntuTech> lemme look at my w8 ram use one sec
[03:04] <BuntuTech> here is example
[03:05] <BuntuTech> i m running w8 and this vm using lubuntu and a MASSIVE graphics intensive game and 2 browsers and skype using screen sharing which is also a pig and w9 is using 4.8 gb ram out of 12 and is only at 100 degrees farenhight temp
[03:06] <BuntuTech> so w8 is extrememly effecient
[03:06] <BuntuTech> the game alone using 2gnb ram
[03:06] <BuntuTech> gb ram
[03:06] <BuntuTech> oh and gimp is open too haha
[03:07] <BuntuTech> when i dont have all this on w8 idles around 700-900 mb ram
[03:08] <BuntuTech> but i once installed it on a gig of ram and it turns stuff off and runs great it has very good technology
[03:09] <BuntuTech> w8 is a work of art when it comes to efficency
[03:09] <BuntuTech> but every hacker in TX knows how to hack windows
[03:11] <urielvigilant> your favorit game its not inside OnLive?
[03:12] <urielvigilant> I use to play great games in my tiny laptop with onlive.. . with out problems.
[03:12] <BuntuTech> no neve rheard of it
[03:12] <urielvigilant> Streaming games . . you play in stream
[03:12] <urielvigilant> but the game is in a distant server
[03:13] <urielvigilant> so you can play in any old computer the ultimate games for a mothly pay or for free
[03:13] <urielvigilant> give it a try . . hooo you also can use it on your android tablet or phone even in the old ones
[03:14] <urielvigilant> what is your game ?
[03:15] <urielvigilant> this use to work on linux with playonlinux or wine, but since Onlive upgraded the app, it never works anymore again
[03:16] <urielvigilant> The another platform i use to use was www.gaikai.com but it was sold . Sony bought it for 400 millions i heard. now you cant play on pc. Sony plans to use it to playsations but in streaming too
[03:20] <urielvigilant> I think this will be the future. And gammers can stop spending money to upgrade to play.
[03:21] <urielvigilant> Open a free account https://games.onlive.com/   and try free games with out install . play right now
[03:22] <BuntuTech> check out this funky cusotm wallpaper i made for my lubuntu desktop
[03:23] <BuntuTech> http://imgur.com/DbUMiCf
[03:23] <BuntuTech> hehe
[03:25] <urielvigilant> you used the windows stamp
[03:25] <urielvigilant> doesn it ?
[03:25] <urielvigilant> we have to remember that we also have a valid legal licence for our Linux distros .
[03:25] <urielvigilant> lolol
[03:29] <BuntuTech> yeah i guess they do but i have never seen them
[03:29] <BuntuTech> do u like the wallpaper?
[03:29] <urielvigilant> What about " Disk Fragmentation"
[03:29] <BuntuTech> w8 dees it automatically
[03:29] <urielvigilant> yes its a coll one with a " GReat Message on IT"
[03:30] <BuntuTech> w8 does a good job of staying defragged on its own
[03:30] <BuntuTech> linux xdoesnt get fragged as u know
[03:30] <urielvigilant> i ask that, because that
[03:30] <BuntuTech> everytime i ck w8 (analize disk) it is under the allowed range
[03:30] <urielvigilant> Linux reserve 5% of the disk to never defreag need
[03:31] <BuntuTech> w8 seems to always be  in a state of 1-4% freagged
[03:31] <BuntuTech> and it runs itself on intervals
[03:31] <BuntuTech> at 10 percent windows needs a defrag but ive never seen 8 ge there
[03:32] <BuntuTech> so it is doing its job well
[03:34] <urielvigilant> can you help me put onlive running on Linux again, maybe contating the right peoples
[03:34] <urielvigilant> maby playonlinux people . . .
[03:42] <urielvigilant> When we try to run OnLive on PLayOnLinux it say ; Failed to creat direct 3d, Please ensure you are using Direct x player 9 or later ( status cod a44a )
[04:55] <gatis> Hi i installed Wine but it doesn't show up in Lubuntu menu!
[04:56] <gatis> i checked it has applications in ~/.local/share/applications and /usr/share/applications
[05:15] <holstein> !wine
[05:15] <holstein> gatis: ^
[05:16] <holstein> gatis: i find the wine applications in the .wine directory.. as if its a windows setup. in Program/ files
[05:16] <gatis> Why it doesn't show up in menu?
[05:16] <gatis> I see it has created .desktop files and .directory files
[05:17] <holstein> gatis: its not really something you click on
[05:17] <holstein> gatis: wine lets you run other windows apps, that may try to give you a menu entry
[05:33] <gatis> hmmm
[05:33] <gatis> having hard time here
[05:34] <hateball> the .desktop file wine creates is likely so you can doubleclick .exe's and have them open with wine, rather than typing in a terminal
[05:34] <hateball> also it might create an entry for winecfg I guess
[05:39] <gatis> I want wine menu :)
[05:39] <gatis> I wan't to know why it doesn't show up
[05:43] <gatis> anyone who understands menus?
[06:11]  * Speck whines!  "My Lubuntu Wifi doesn't work ;s;"
[06:11] <Speck> It used to *sniffle*
[06:28] <Speck> During the install... ...during the install the Wifi worked, but now it fails to!"
[06:56] <gatis> it's very hard to get help on IRC
[07:24] <Speck> Thanks for the assistance.
[07:40] <hateball> Speck: Define "fails". Does it not show any networks? Does it fail to connect? etc
[07:41] <hateball> Speck: Details like version of Lubuntu, and your wifi chipset also helps
[07:41] <hateball> gatis: It's not so hard, just a matter of patience until someone with the right answer comes along ;)
[07:42] <Speck> I'll use my ethernet cable to download missing packages in the hopes of rectifying, thanks hateball.
[07:43] <Speck> (It confessed failure to install 'some' packages.)
[07:43] <Speck> (During install)
[07:43] <hateball> Speck: Usually it's down to restricted firmware, so yes hooking up ethernets is a good first step
[07:43] <Speck> It worked during install...
[07:44] <gatis> Please someone help to get Wine menu in Main menu in lxde!
[14:12] <gassho> So how do I enable wireless functionality & install packages that didn't get installed during system install?
[14:12] <gassho> Well actually wifi worked during system install but do not work now.
[14:13] <gassho> i just ran synaptic
[14:35] <gassho> Apparently everything works :)
[14:35] <gassho> ok bye
[15:32] <johny__> hello to all
[15:32] <johny__> i just installed Lubuntu 14.04 in an Intel NUC with 2 HDMI ports
[15:33] <johny__> but the traditional "export DISPLAY=:1.0"   doesnt work
[15:33] <johny__> does Lubuntu / LXDE needs any aditional tunning for export DISPLAY=:1.0   to work?
[15:54] <holstein> johny__: anything relevant to ubuntu will be relevant in lubuntu.. i would look at my grphics drivers, though, im pretty sure those are intel graphics
[15:54] <holstein> i would try "arandr"
[15:54] <holstein> !info arandr
[15:56] <johny__> I already used aRandr
[15:56] <johny__> It allows me to put one screen next to the other
[15:57] <johny__> but the "export DISPLAY=:1.0" still not works
[15:57] <johny__> stil doesnt work
[15:58] <holstein> johny__: what are you trying to do, friend?
[15:59] <johny__> I have 2 applications, and I would like to run app1 in screen 1, and app2 in screen 2
[15:59] <johny__> in Ubuntu, I would do:
[15:59] <johny__> export DISPLAY=:0.0 ;  ./app1
[15:59] <holstein> johny__: sure.. actually, let me just stop you right there.. lubuntu *is* ubuntu
[15:59] <johny__> export DISPLAY=:1.0 ; app2
[15:59] <holstein> johny__: in ubuntu on the *same* hardware, with the same kernel and drivers you shoudl have the same experience
[16:00] <holstein> its more likely not the issue that lubuntu is not doing that, but, something with the configuration on that partiular hardware..
[16:00] <holstein> if you would like, you can share *exact* errors.. or, try loading up an ubuntu or xubuntu live CD and see for yourself first hand that in actual ubuntu, that export command works or doesnt
[16:03] <gassho> !repos
[16:06] <johny__> mm ok, so your telling me this would probably happen also in Ubuntu  14.04
[16:07] <holstein> johny__: more or less.. what im saying is, lubuntu *is* ubuntu.. and you are saying what works for you in ubuntu is not working in lubuntu, but, im saying, you are assuming that.. what could also be happening is, what works for you in ubuntu is not working in ubuntu on that hardware
[16:09] <johny__> here is my exact error
[16:09] <johny__> $ export DISPLAY=:1.0
[16:09] <johny__> ** (gedit:14373): WARNING **: Could not open X display  (gedit:14373): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :1.0
[16:10] <holstein> johny__: are you using the displays like that?
[16:10] <holstein> anyways.. this is not a lubuntu or lxde isssue
[16:11] <holstein> i would try starting with http://superuser.com/questions/310197/how-do-i-fix-a-cannot-open-display-error-when-opening-an-x-program-after-sshi
[16:11] <johny__> ok, nice, because I was googling and googling for LXDE or Lubuntu problems.... and I wasnt getting nothing
[16:11] <holstein> not that the display is being forwarded
[16:41] <Gruja> Hi... i buy old netbook, samsung n210 plus with 1.66ghz and 2gb ram... how lubuntu work on this configuration? lubuntu is good or very good for this netbook? my english is bad..sorry
[16:42] <ianorlin> that will defintely work well on lubuntu I have run lubuntu on computers with 4 times less ram than that
[16:43] <Gruja> oh..thank you man. i start downloading.. when download i test all.. i mean that will very good.. thanks!
[16:43] <Gruja> one more quastion.. web camera work on lubuntu?
[16:44] <ianorlin> mine does but not sure of all
[16:44] <ianorlin> I even have an option to take pictures in black and white with my webcam
[16:46] <Gruja> thanks
[19:16] <johncooper> to stop Linux from crashing, what should I install with Trusty and 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)?
[23:23] <stevendale1> I'm going to try out lubuntu 14.10 beta1 on this 1st gen mac pro
[23:23] <stevendale1> how will i install grub on a 3tb hd?
[23:24] <stevendale1> do i install it into say, /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/sda, because it has a gpt table?
[23:56] <gassho> how do i install mozart
[23:57] <gassho> n/m i googl'd :p
[23:57] <gassho> sorry
[23:57] <gassho> shoulda dun that 2st