[04:51] <pitti> Good morning
[07:21] <dholbach> good morning
[10:25] <mlankhorst> morning
[13:33] <manuel___> hi
[13:42] <manuel___> HI, How can I start with the development from Ubuntu?
[13:44] <diwic> manuel___, hi, more specifically, what do you want to do?
[13:46] <manuel___> I have no plan, about the development from Ubuntu. So, I look then. What is a good get to in?
[13:49] <diwic> manuel___, do you mean you want to help developing Ubuntu itself, or developing your own software that runs on Ubuntu?
[13:49] <manuel___> Sorry, my last sentence is bad. "What is a good get to in?" should be called "So, what is a good way to get in?"
[13:49] <manuel___> sorry for my bad english
[13:49] <manuel___> first point
[13:50] <diwic> manuel___, no worries about the English, we have many nationalities here - you'll learn gradually just like the rest of us
[13:50] <diwic> manuel___, so are you interested in coding, testing, writing documentation, advocating Ubuntu, etc...?
[13:50] <diwic> manuel___, there are many things you can help out with
[13:52] <manuel___> I am much interested as programming treiber, but that is to high for me now. Right? So, what are other ways.
[13:52] <manuel___> ?
[13:53] <manuel___> sorry treiber is german for driver. so I mean driver
[13:53] <diwic> manuel___, then maybe contacting the German LoCo team could be a good start?
[13:54] <diwic> manuel___, http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-de-locoteam/ - they seem to have interesting activities in German
[13:56] <diwic> manuel___, or, if you're interesting in programming drivers (I assume drivers for hardware?), start with a driver that needs testing or fixing and try to contact people that are already working on that driver
[13:58] <manuel___> that heard it better.
[13:58] <diwic> manuel___, often driver developers don't have all hardware themselves, and need people that can test their new drivers. That could be a way to get involved.
[13:58] <manuel___> Is there a tutorial to learn the basics of driver programming.
[14:00] <diwic> manuel___, it depends on how much you can code already, but http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/ can be a good start
[14:01] <manuel___> thanks
[14:01] <manuel___> And bye. I log me now out.
[14:12] <ogra_> oh !
[14:12] <ogra_> mail to the ubuntu-backports list ...
[14:12] <ogra_> that only happens once a decade !
[14:16] <Laney> I don't think anyone other than me ever mails that list :(
[14:17] <mlankhorst> must find doko..
[14:19] <ogra_> Laney, well, i read it at least ... :)
[14:36] <pitti> hey stgraber, how are you?
[14:36] <pitti> stgraber: do you still plan a new LXC upstream version for utopic, or might it be better at this point to cherry-pick the systemd unit fixes, or do you want to postpone them to V altogether?
[14:37] <pitti> (I'm happy to provide an updated package, but don't want to step on your toes)
[14:38] <stgraber> pitti: so my current plan is (but we'll see if the release team agrees) to finish the systemd changes upstream this week (still resolving some problems), release alpha-2 ideally by EOW and then get that into utopic
[14:38] <stgraber> I also have 1.0.6 that's around the corner and aimed at trusty
[14:38] <pitti> stgraber: ah, great, thanks; please tell me if/when you need assistance with the dh_systemd_* bits
[15:56] <ScottK> If there's a u-d-a ML moderator around, I just put one in queue for review.
[17:51] <mdeslaur> cjwatson: FYI, I'm stealing your nginx merge
[19:28] <Logan_> hallyn: would you mind prepping/uploading the SRU for vde2 (including the fixes for Bug 804647, Bug 629349, and Bug 781411)? I'm kinda tied up with stuff at the moment
[19:28] <hallyn> Logan_: ok, will do
[19:29] <Logan_> er, second one should've been Bug 629439
[19:29] <Logan_> ideally a new version should be uploaded to lucid
[19:29] <Logan_> and then it can be copied up to precise
[19:42] <hallyn> Logan_: oh feh.
[19:42] <hallyn> i was only looking at one bug.  missed the multiple bugs you quoted
[19:43] <hallyn> arges: are you around?  could you quickly reject the two vde2 packages i uploaded (to lucid-proposed and precise-proposed)
[19:43] <hallyn> i got ahead of myself
[19:43] <arges> hallyn: hey
[19:43] <arges> sure
[19:43] <hallyn> thx!
[19:43] <Logan_> heh
[19:44] <arges> hallyn: ok done
[19:45] <hallyn> Logan_: though, for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vde2/+bug/781411  i never ws able to reproduce it.  so can't really write a sru justification.  i'd vote for calling it invalid
[19:45] <Logan_> incomplete, at least
[20:04] <Noskcaj> ScottK, Can you look at my last comment on 1372224
[20:04] <Noskcaj> * bug 1372224
[20:05] <ScottK> Commented
[20:10] <Noskcaj> ScottK, So are you going to sync it?
[20:10] <ScottK> No.  Please subscribe sponsors.
[20:10] <ScottK> Busy with $work.
[20:14] <Noskcaj> ok