| bduk1 | Morning everyone | 05:44 |
|---|---|---|
| Squirm | morning | 05:53 |
| theblazehen | Hi Squirm bduk1 | 05:55 |
| Squirm | 'lo Kilos | 06:23 |
| Kilos | morning Squirm inetpro and others i dont yet see as online | 06:23 |
| Kilos | konversation takes its time checking | 06:24 |
| theblazehen | Hi Kilos | 06:24 |
| Kilos | hi theblazehen | 06:25 |
| Kilos | lol maybe im getting there now, got this pc to ping the server last night | 06:25 |
| Kilos | using direct cable. no crossover and no added eth card | 06:26 |
| Kilos | maybe this new m/board does it automatically | 06:26 |
| theblazehen | Great! | 06:26 |
| Kilos | weird hey | 06:27 |
| Kilos | i went to the game but you were asleep already | 06:27 |
| theblazehen | yeah | 06:59 |
| theblazehen | nice game | 06:59 |
| * theblazehen is in computer class now :) | 07:00 | |
| Kilos | enjoy and concentrate | 07:01 |
| Kilos | they might be able to teach you something | 07:01 |
| Kilos | no playing on fone | 07:01 |
| theblazehen | yeah, just on PC ;) | 07:01 |
| theblazehen | lol, gtg. next class | 07:02 |
| theblazehen | besides I won't be using office much anyway | 07:02 |
| Kilos | ya but you might need to help others so concentrate | 07:02 |
| theblazehen | Yeah | 07:04 |
| theblazehen | Yay 3g | 07:04 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:05 |
| theblazehen | Signal at school sucks | 07:05 |
| * Kilos cries | 07:06 | |
| Kilos | http://mybroadband.co.za/news/adsl/110302-r1-per-gb-adsl-products-launched.html | 07:06 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 07:07 |
| Kilos | and nlsthzn and nuvolari_ | 07:07 |
| Kilos | ai! | 07:10 |
| Kilos | http://mybroadband.co.za/news/security/110316-mass-hacking-of-south-african-websites.html | 07:11 |
| Kilos | hi Spekko StonedAlchemist | 07:43 |
| Spekko | More more Kilos | 07:52 |
| * Squirm looks around | 07:56 | |
| * Squirm then goes to find some decent coffee | 07:56 | |
| Kilos | ooo yay can ping 8.8.8.8 from my server using direct cable and dnsmasg | 08:06 |
| Kilos | hi jrgns | 08:08 |
| jrgns | hey Kilos | 08:12 |
| Squirm | dnsmasq is a dns server/forwarder | 08:16 |
| Squirm | try and ping www.google.co.za | 08:17 |
| Squirm | at least afaik | 08:17 |
| Squirm | :P | 08:17 |
| Kilos | isnt 8.8.8.8 google | 08:20 |
| Squirm | yes, but I don't think dnsmasq will have anything to do with you being able to ping 8.8.8.8 | 08:21 |
| Kilos | i need to forward because the server pc must share this 3g connection | 08:21 |
| Squirm | yes you do | 08:21 |
| Squirm | try and ping www.google.co.za | 08:21 |
| Squirm | or any actualy website address :) | 08:21 |
| Kilos | i cant even ping 8.8.8.8 anymore | 08:21 |
| Kilos | done something wrong again | 08:22 |
| Kilos | sigh | 08:22 |
| Kilos | isnt dnsmasq involved in this command | 08:23 |
| Kilos | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp+ -j MASQUERADE | 08:23 |
| Squirm | :P | 08:23 |
| Squirm | no | 08:23 |
| Kilos | oh ok | 08:23 |
| Squirm | dnsmasq will be responsible for taking a website address and turning it into an IP address | 08:24 |
| Kilos | oh | 08:24 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: you mean ppp0? | 08:25 |
| Squirm | masquerade, afaik. takes your internal IP address and turns it into the IP address of your 3G connection | 08:25 |
| Squirm | so it'll give your eth0 IP address of your server, the IP address of your ppp+ on your PC with the 3G dongle | 08:26 |
| Kilos | oh well i dont mind what does what as long as i can get the server online | 08:26 |
| theblazehen | Yeah it does that | 08:26 |
| theblazehen | Kilos said PPP+ | 08:27 |
| Kilos | im actually using this command | 08:27 |
| Kilos | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wwan+ -j MASQUERADE | 08:27 |
| Squirm | same thing :) | 08:27 |
| Squirm | just a different name | 08:27 |
| theblazehen | Ooh... | 08:27 |
| Kilos | ya i dunno why the dlink modem shows as wwan0 not ppp0 | 08:27 |
| Squirm | it's alright | 08:28 |
| Squirm | maybe an update | 08:28 |
| Squirm | or a different version, they just changed the naming of the 3G dongles | 08:28 |
| Kilos | just to make things more difficult for me? | 08:28 |
| Kilos | hehe | 08:28 |
| Squirm | :P | 08:28 |
| Squirm | like I said, just a name | 08:29 |
| Squirm | and you figured it out | 08:29 |
| Kilos | i struggled to get iftop workong | 08:29 |
| Kilos | working | 08:29 |
| Kilos | lemme try get it to ping www.google.co.za then ill come back to you | 08:30 |
| Squirm | first, you do want to be able to ping 8.8.8.8 | 08:31 |
| Squirm | then when that works, you want to be able to ping www.google.co.za | 08:31 |
| theblazehen | Or try nslookup Google.com | 08:33 |
| Kilos | it can ping 8.8.8.8 but not www.google.co.za | 08:33 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: nslookup? | 08:33 |
| Squirm | Kilos: on your server, what have you set the dns server to? | 08:34 |
| Kilos | nope connection timed out | 08:34 |
| Kilos | 192.168.1.2 | 08:34 |
| Squirm | which is? | 08:34 |
| Squirm | the PC with the 3G? | 08:35 |
| Kilos | 192.168.1.50 | 08:35 |
| Kilos | server is the first ip | 08:35 |
| Squirm | your DNS server must be the computer with your 3G dongle | 08:35 |
| Kilos | ya | 08:35 |
| Kilos | nslookup times out | 08:36 |
| Kilos | but 8.8.8.8 pings lekker fast | 08:36 |
| Kilos | it wont let me ssh in | 08:37 |
| Squirm | using the IP address? | 08:37 |
| Kilos | then i can do things from here | 08:37 |
| Squirm | oh | 08:37 |
| Squirm | :P | 08:37 |
| Kilos | it says ssh connection refused and i dunno how to turn off the firewall | 08:38 |
| Squirm | service ufw stop | 08:38 |
| Squirm | or | 08:38 |
| Squirm | is ssh running? | 08:38 |
| Squirm | service ssh start | 08:38 |
| * Squirm shrugs | 08:39 | |
| Kilos | i tried to ssh from here and got the refused thing | 08:39 |
| Kilos | lemme try that | 08:39 |
| Squirm | on the server you're connecting to though | 08:39 |
| Kilos | ssh: unrecognised service | 08:39 |
| Kilos | do i need to install ssh | 08:40 |
| Squirm | you need to install the ssh server | 08:40 |
| Squirm | if it hasn't been installed | 08:40 |
| Kilos | on this pc or the server pc | 08:41 |
| Squirm | aptitude install openssh-server | 08:41 |
| Squirm | on the server pc | 08:41 |
| Kilos | lets call them pc1 and pc2 | 08:41 |
| Squirm | the one your're trying to connect to | 08:41 |
| Kilos | ok sec | 08:41 |
| theblazehen | Squirm: apt uses DNS for mirrors? | 08:43 |
| Squirm | but he might already have it installed and just needs to be started | 08:43 |
| theblazehen | Yeah.. | 08:43 |
| theblazehen | Squirm: maybe we should " echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf" ? | 08:44 |
| theblazehen | On server | 08:44 |
| Kilos | nope ssh is an unknown service | 08:45 |
| Squirm | problem is debian and their configuration files :/ as soon as you restart networking it'll probably be overwritten. | 08:45 |
| Kilos | and i cant sudo apt-get update | 08:45 |
| Squirm | Kilos: sshd? | 08:45 |
| theblazehen | Squirm: just for temporary | 08:45 |
| Squirm | no | 08:45 |
| Squirm | it is ssh | 08:45 |
| Squirm | meh | 08:45 |
| Kilos | package openssh-server has no installation candidate | 08:47 |
| Kilos | sigh | 08:47 |
| Squirm | Kilos: try change your dns server on your server to 8.8.8.8 | 08:47 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 08:48 |
| Kilos | how | 08:48 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: check what I posted a bit up | 08:48 |
| theblazehen | Will be reset on boot though | 08:49 |
| Kilos | ah | 08:49 |
| Kilos | when im running between pcs i miss things | 08:49 |
| Kilos | sorry | 08:49 |
| theblazehen | Going to sucky signal, may go afk | 08:49 |
| theblazehen | Using a bouncer, so won't actually go offline | 08:50 |
| Kilos | it showed nameserver 8.8.8.8 but i still cant apt-get update | 08:52 |
| Kilos | grrr | 08:52 |
| Kilos | now it cant ping 8.8.8.8 anymore | 08:55 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: "echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf" | 08:55 |
| Kilos | oh lemme do that ty | 08:55 |
| theblazehen | traceroute 8.8.8.8 after that | 08:57 |
| Kilos | eish i need to install traceroute but it cant find the package | 09:00 |
| Kilos | needs update but dunno how we gonna accomplish that | 09:01 |
| theblazehen | Can you ping Google now | 09:06 |
| Kilos | nope | 09:09 |
| theblazehen | And 8.8.8.8? | 09:10 |
| Kilos | ya that works lekker | 09:11 |
| theblazehen | When you try Google does it show a IP? | 09:11 |
| Kilos | nope just shows unknown host www.google.co.za | 09:12 |
| theblazehen | Hmm.. And /etc/resolv.conf has "nameserver 8.8.8.8" in it? | 09:13 |
| Squirm | Kilos: do you have dnsmasq installed on your current PC? | 09:14 |
| Squirm | the one with the 3G | 09:14 |
| Kilos | i ran your command and it said nameserver 8.8.8.8 | 09:14 |
| Kilos | yessir\ | 09:14 |
| Squirm | and from this PC. if you do a nslookup google.com | 09:16 |
| Squirm | it should spit out some stuff | 09:16 |
| Squirm | but the first two lines, paste those for me please | 09:16 |
| theblazehen | Kilos "cat /etc/resolv.conf" has nameserver 8.8.8.8m | 09:16 |
| Squirm | or the first, "Server: blah blah" | 09:16 |
| Kilos | Server: 127.0.0.1 | 09:17 |
| Kilos | Address: 127.0.0.1#53 | 09:17 |
| Kilos | eish that 127 thing again | 09:17 |
| Squirm | ok, so dnsmasq is running locally | 09:17 |
| Squirm | that's good | 09:17 |
| theblazehen | Eish.. | 09:17 |
| * ThatGraemeGuy has a strong sense of deja vu... o_O | 09:18 | |
| Squirm | I know ThatGraemeGuy | 09:18 |
| Squirm | ok | 09:18 |
| Squirm | Kilos: | 09:18 |
| Kilos | yes Squirm | 09:18 |
| theblazehen | ThatGraemeGuy: haha | 09:18 |
| Squirm | on your OC | 09:18 |
| Squirm | PC | 09:18 |
| Squirm | edit /etc/dnsmasq.cong | 09:18 |
| Squirm | edit /etc/dnsmasq.conf | 09:18 |
| theblazehen | Lol, lag to bouncer is 5 seconds here :( | 09:18 |
| Squirm | hmm, seems to not exist on my PC | 09:19 |
| theblazehen | Up to 24 now... | 09:19 |
| Squirm | and the firewall on your PC accepts port 53? | 09:19 |
| theblazehen | That's seconds. 24 seconds | 09:19 |
| Squirm | xChat says I'm sitting at .4s | 09:20 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | dnsmasq is tightly interwoven with NetworkManager | 09:20 |
| Kilos | Server: 127.0.0.1 | 09:20 |
| Kilos | Address: 127.0.0.1#53 | 09:20 |
| Kilos | sorry | 09:20 |
| Squirm | ThatGraemeGuy: so, he has access to the internet. ping works. it's just to get his dns working now... | 09:20 |
| Squirm | Kilos: I hope you're keeping note of everything that works | 09:20 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i'm staying out of it | 09:21 |
| Kilos | Address: 127.0.0.1#53 | 09:21 |
| Kilos | what editing must i do | 09:21 |
| theblazehen | ThatGraemeGuy: good idea... | 09:21 |
| Squirm | Uncomment the line and specify which ethernet interface(s) you want it server IPs to. For example, if I want it to listen on eth1 (my DMZ) and eth2 (my local network), then it should look like: | 09:21 |
| Squirm | interface=eth1 | 09:21 |
| Squirm | interface=eth2 | 09:21 |
| Squirm | google ftw | 09:22 |
| * theblazehen is at 63% packet loss... | 09:22 | |
| Squirm | so probably | 09:22 |
| Squirm | uncomment the line that says interface=eth0 | 09:22 |
| Squirm | this is kind of new to me | 09:22 |
| * Squirm shrugs | 09:22 | |
| Squirm | Kilos: without access, I'm pretty stuck | 09:22 |
| Squirm | hmm | 09:22 |
| Squirm | I also need to run now | 09:22 |
| * Squirm leaves Kilos to ThatGraemeGuy and theblazehen | 09:23 | |
| Squirm | ;) | 09:23 |
| theblazehen | Squirm: :( | 09:23 |
| Kilos | /etc/dnsmasq.cong shows Address: 127.0.0.1#53 | 09:23 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | nope, i'm apparently not helpful enough and impatient and rude so i'll stay out of it | 09:23 |
| Kilos | nothing else | 09:23 |
| Kilos | lol @ ThatGraemeGuy | 09:24 |
| Kilos | i battle man | 09:24 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: you can ssh pc1 -> pc2? | 09:24 |
| Kilos | i cant do stuff fast like you guys | 09:24 |
| Kilos | no i cant ssh | 09:24 |
| theblazehen | OK. But you can ping? | 09:25 |
| Kilos | yes | 09:25 |
| theblazehen | Ah, nat... | 09:25 |
| theblazehen | Or wait.. | 09:25 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: i know, but i don't feel like another round of being treated like a toddler by someone who barely spends any time here, so i'll just stfu and everybody stays happy :) | 09:25 |
| Kilos | ok | 09:26 |
| theblazehen | ThatGraemeGuy: who's that you referring to? | 09:26 |
| Kilos | me | 09:26 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: you spend lots of time here... | 09:27 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | no, i got lectured a while ago, summary of "if you aren't going to be helpful to people regardless of skill level then perhaps leave the helping to others" | 09:27 |
| Kilos | no man he says i treat him like a toddler who doesnt spen time here | 09:27 |
| theblazehen | ThatGraemeGuy: ah... | 09:27 |
| Kilos | and i apologised too at the time | 09:28 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i'm not even talking about you o_O | 09:28 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | heh | 09:28 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | maybe i really should STFU | 09:29 |
| Kilos | no man help | 09:29 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:29 |
| Kilos | keeps your day interesting | 09:29 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: tried #ubuntu? | 09:29 |
| Kilos | i cant keep up there | 09:30 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: forum? | 09:30 |
| Kilos | nope they dont understand either | 09:30 |
| Kilos | but ive googled lots and the info i have saved worked on old ubuntus but not on 14.04 | 09:31 |
| theblazehen | ThatGraemeGuy: http://i.imgur.com/28l8teD.jpg lol. From #reddit-sysadmin | 09:37 |
| Kilos | w00000t | 09:54 |
| Kilos | its working | 09:54 |
| Kilos | can ssh to the server too, ty guys | 09:58 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: nice! Everything working? | 10:01 |
| Kilos | yeah im so happy ty | 10:01 |
| Kilos | i just scrolled back here and redid everything so not sure what actually helped but have saved the whole days chat from here to a file | 10:02 |
| Kilos | now if this drive crashes we start all over | 10:02 |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:02 |
| Kilos | ty ThatGraemeGuy you are also included | 10:02 |
| Kilos | and Squirm | 10:03 |
| Kilos | now i can go pick meds | 10:03 |
| Kilos | hi gremble | 10:16 |
| gremble | Hello kilos | 10:21 |
| theblazehen | hi gremble | 10:23 |
| * Squirm looks around | 10:34 | |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:35 |
| * Squirm yawns | 10:35 | |
| Kilos | sjoe day still long lad | 10:36 |
| Kilos | not yawning time yet | 10:37 |
| gremble | Hey theblazehen | 10:38 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | theblazehen: they should use quadruple-ROT13 instead of base64_encode, silly amateurs | 11:02 |
| theblazehen | ThatGraemeGuy: yeah! And maybe also convert from ASCII to EBCDIC | 11:08 |
| gremble | Quadruple-ROT13 is overkill. You really only need ROT26 to be secure. | 11:09 |
| theblazehen | gremble: double rot26? Lol | 11:09 |
| gremble | ROT26! (! is for factorials) | 11:11 |
| gremble | Im typing up my very first latex document. I have no idea what Im doing | 11:12 |
| theblazehen | Rot 4.032915e26 ? Ok then... | 11:14 |
| gremble | Lol | 11:18 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 17:30 |
| inetpro | Maaz: hmm | 17:39 |
| Maaz | hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking | 17:39 |
| inetpro | is he? | 17:39 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 17:39 |
| Kilos | naand boetie | 17:39 |
| inetpro | good evening | 17:40 |
| Kilos | ya man im thinking of what to do with a running server | 17:40 |
| Kilos | wanna work out how to connect to it from outside as well | 17:40 |
| Kilos | the 3g thing is the bugbear | 17:41 |
| Kilos | will maybe even try teamviewer on it | 17:42 |
| inetpro | ai! | 17:42 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:42 |
| gremble | Have you tried catching it? | 17:44 |
| Kilos | catching? | 17:44 |
| Kilos | this be a yucky keyboard | 17:45 |
| gremble | Yes. If your server is running you aught to catch it I suppose | 17:45 |
| gremble | Before it gets away | 17:45 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 17:45 |
| Kilos | its tied down | 17:45 |
| Kilos | hi bushtech hoe gaan dit daar | 17:50 |
| bushtech | Kilos: goed, nou net by die huis gekom. Hoe lyk dit jou kant? | 18:05 |
| Kilos | goed dankie | 18:05 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 18:19 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 'lo | 18:37 |
| theblazehen | Hi Kilos ThatGraemeGuy and all | 18:53 |
| Kilos | hi theblazehen | 18:53 |
| theblazehen | was at school for 13 hours today... | 19:01 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 19:01 |
| Kilos | oh theblazehen echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf is what allowed it to ping www.google.com | 19:04 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: yeah, thought so | 19:04 |
| theblazehen | need to do it every boot | 19:04 |
| Kilos | i rebooted it and had to do that again | 19:04 |
| Kilos | ya i added it to what i need to do on reboots | 19:05 |
| Kilos | ty | 19:05 |
| theblazehen | New hardware come in today L) | 19:21 |
| Kilos | what? | 19:21 |
| theblazehen | i7-4790K, 64 GB SSD, mouse with 7 buttons | 19:23 |
| Kilos | my new harddrive is coming tomorrow | 19:23 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: nice, how big? | 19:23 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 19:23 |
| Kilos | 1TB | 19:23 |
| Kilos | 2TB too expensive still | 19:24 |
| theblazehen | ah | 19:24 |
| Kilos | then i can do data recovery on my 500G drive that crashed and hopefully save most of what i lost | 19:25 |
| Kilos | cant do it from an 80G there aint place to save stuff | 19:26 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:26 |
| Kilos | i actually enjoy doing testdisk foremost and scalpel even though its very time consuming | 19:27 |
| Kilos | evening superfly | 20:39 |
| Kilos | server updated/upgraded | 21:15 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 21:15 |
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