[05:44] <bduk1> Morning everyone
[05:53] <Squirm> morning
[05:55] <theblazehen> Hi Squirm bduk1 
[06:23] <Squirm> 'lo Kilos 
[06:23] <Kilos> morning Squirm  inetpro  and others i dont yet see as online
[06:24] <Kilos> konversation takes its time checking
[06:24] <theblazehen> Hi Kilos 
[06:25] <Kilos> hi theblazehen  
[06:25] <Kilos> lol maybe im getting there now, got this pc to ping the server last night
[06:26] <Kilos> using direct cable. no crossover and no added eth card
[06:26] <Kilos> maybe this new m/board does it automatically
[06:26] <theblazehen> Great!
[06:27] <Kilos> weird hey
[06:27] <Kilos> i went to the game but you were asleep already
[06:59] <theblazehen> yeah
[06:59] <theblazehen> nice game
[07:00]  * theblazehen is in computer class now :)
[07:01] <Kilos> enjoy and concentrate
[07:01] <Kilos> they might be able to teach you something
[07:01] <Kilos> no playing on fone
[07:01] <theblazehen> yeah, just on PC ;)
[07:02] <theblazehen> lol, gtg. next class
[07:02] <theblazehen> besides I won't be using office much anyway
[07:02] <Kilos> ya but you might need to help others so concentrate
[07:04] <theblazehen> Yeah
[07:04] <theblazehen> Yay 3g
[07:05] <Kilos> hehe
[07:05] <theblazehen> Signal at school sucks
[07:06]  * Kilos cries
[07:06] <Kilos> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/adsl/110302-r1-per-gb-adsl-products-launched.html
[07:07] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[07:07] <Kilos> and nlsthzn  and nuvolari_  
[07:10] <Kilos> ai!
[07:11] <Kilos> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/security/110316-mass-hacking-of-south-african-websites.html
[07:43] <Kilos> hi Spekko  StonedAlchemist  
[07:52] <Spekko> More more Kilos
[07:56]  * Squirm looks around
[07:56]  * Squirm then goes to find some decent coffee
[08:06] <Kilos> ooo yay can ping 8.8.8.8 from my server using direct cable and dnsmasg
[08:08] <Kilos> hi jrgns  
[08:12] <jrgns> hey Kilos
[08:16] <Squirm> dnsmasq is a dns server/forwarder
[08:17] <Squirm> try and ping www.google.co.za
[08:17] <Squirm> at least afaik
[08:17] <Squirm> :P
[08:20] <Kilos> isnt 8.8.8.8 google
[08:21] <Squirm> yes, but I don't think dnsmasq will have anything to do with you being able to ping 8.8.8.8 
[08:21] <Kilos> i need to forward because the server pc must share this 3g connection
[08:21] <Squirm> yes you do
[08:21] <Squirm> try and ping www.google.co.za
[08:21] <Squirm> or any actualy website address :)
[08:21] <Kilos> i cant even ping 8.8.8.8 anymore
[08:22] <Kilos> done something wrong again
[08:22] <Kilos> sigh
[08:23] <Kilos> isnt dnsmasq involved in this command
[08:23] <Kilos> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp+ -j MASQUERADE
[08:23] <Squirm> :P
[08:23] <Squirm> no
[08:23] <Kilos> oh ok
[08:24] <Squirm> dnsmasq will be responsible for taking a website address and turning it into an IP address
[08:24] <Kilos> oh
[08:25] <theblazehen> Kilos: you mean ppp0?
[08:25] <Squirm> masquerade, afaik. takes your internal IP address and turns it into the IP address of your 3G connection
[08:26] <Squirm> so it'll give your eth0 IP address of your server, the IP address of your ppp+ on your PC with the 3G dongle
[08:26] <Kilos> oh well i dont mind what does what as long as i can get the server online
[08:26] <theblazehen> Yeah it does that
[08:27] <theblazehen> Kilos said PPP+
[08:27] <Kilos> im actually using this command
[08:27] <Kilos> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wwan+ -j MASQUERADE
[08:27] <Squirm> same thing :)
[08:27] <Squirm> just a different name
[08:27] <theblazehen> Ooh... 
[08:27] <Kilos> ya i dunno why the dlink modem shows as wwan0 not ppp0
[08:28] <Squirm> it's alright
[08:28] <Squirm> maybe an update
[08:28] <Squirm> or a different version, they just changed the naming of the 3G dongles
[08:28] <Kilos> just to make things more difficult for me?
[08:28] <Kilos> hehe
[08:28] <Squirm> :P
[08:29] <Squirm> like I said, just a name
[08:29] <Squirm> and you figured it out
[08:29] <Kilos> i struggled to get iftop workong
[08:29] <Kilos> working
[08:30] <Kilos> lemme try get it to ping www.google.co.za then ill come back to you
[08:31] <Squirm> first, you do want to be able to ping 8.8.8.8
[08:31] <Squirm> then when that works, you want to be able to ping www.google.co.za
[08:33] <theblazehen> Or try nslookup Google.com
[08:33] <Kilos> it can ping 8.8.8.8 but not www.google.co.za
[08:33] <theblazehen> Kilos: nslookup?
[08:34] <Squirm> Kilos: on your server, what have you set the dns server to?
[08:34] <Kilos> nope connection timed out
[08:34] <Kilos> 192.168.1.2
[08:34] <Squirm> which is? 
[08:35] <Squirm> the PC with the 3G?
[08:35] <Kilos> 192.168.1.50
[08:35] <Kilos> server is the first ip
[08:35] <Squirm> your DNS server must be the computer with your 3G dongle
[08:35] <Kilos> ya
[08:36] <Kilos> nslookup times out
[08:36] <Kilos> but 8.8.8.8 pings lekker fast
[08:37] <Kilos> it wont let me ssh in
[08:37] <Squirm> using the IP address?
[08:37] <Kilos> then i can do things from here
[08:37] <Squirm> oh
[08:37] <Squirm> :P
[08:38] <Kilos> it says ssh connection refused and i dunno  how to turn off the firewall
[08:38] <Squirm> service ufw stop
[08:38] <Squirm> or
[08:38] <Squirm> is ssh running?
[08:38] <Squirm> service ssh start
[08:39]  * Squirm shrugs
[08:39] <Kilos> i tried to ssh from here and got the refused thing
[08:39] <Kilos> lemme try that
[08:39] <Squirm> on the server you're connecting to though
[08:39] <Kilos> ssh: unrecognised service
[08:40] <Kilos> do i need to install ssh
[08:40] <Squirm> you need to install the ssh server
[08:40] <Squirm> if it hasn't been installed
[08:41] <Kilos> on this pc or the server pc
[08:41] <Squirm> aptitude install openssh-server
[08:41] <Squirm> on the server pc
[08:41] <Kilos> lets call them pc1 and pc2
[08:41] <Squirm> the one your're trying to connect to
[08:41] <Kilos> ok sec
[08:43] <theblazehen> Squirm: apt uses DNS for mirrors?
[08:43] <Squirm> but he might already have it installed and just needs to be started
[08:43] <theblazehen> Yeah..
[08:44] <theblazehen> Squirm: maybe we should " echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf" ?
[08:44] <theblazehen> On server
[08:45] <Kilos> nope ssh is an unknown service
[08:45] <Squirm> problem is debian and their configuration files :/ as soon as you restart networking it'll probably be overwritten.
[08:45] <Kilos> and i cant sudo apt-get update
[08:45] <Squirm> Kilos: sshd?
[08:45] <theblazehen> Squirm: just for temporary
[08:45] <Squirm> no
[08:45] <Squirm> it is ssh
[08:45] <Squirm> meh
[08:47] <Kilos> package openssh-server has no installation candidate
[08:47] <Kilos> sigh
[08:47] <Squirm> Kilos: try change your dns server on your server to 8.8.8.8
[08:48] <Kilos> sjoe
[08:48] <Kilos> how
[08:48] <theblazehen> Kilos: check what I posted a bit up
[08:49] <theblazehen> Will be reset on boot though
[08:49] <Kilos> ah
[08:49] <Kilos> when im running between pcs i miss things
[08:49] <Kilos> sorry
[08:49] <theblazehen> Going to sucky signal, may go afk
[08:50] <theblazehen> Using a bouncer, so won't actually go offline
[08:52] <Kilos> it showed nameserver 8.8.8.8 but i still cant apt-get update
[08:52] <Kilos> grrr
[08:55] <Kilos> now it cant ping 8.8.8.8 anymore
[08:55] <theblazehen> Kilos: "echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf"
[08:55] <Kilos> oh lemme do that ty
[08:57] <theblazehen> traceroute 8.8.8.8 after that
[09:00] <Kilos> eish i need to install traceroute but it cant find the package
[09:01] <Kilos> needs update but dunno how we gonna accomplish that
[09:06] <theblazehen> Can you ping Google now
[09:09] <Kilos> nope
[09:10] <theblazehen> And 8.8.8.8?
[09:11] <Kilos> ya that works lekker
[09:11] <theblazehen> When you try Google does it show a IP?
[09:12] <Kilos> nope just shows unknown host www.google.co.za
[09:13] <theblazehen> Hmm.. And /etc/resolv.conf has "nameserver 8.8.8.8" in it? 
[09:14] <Squirm> Kilos: do you have dnsmasq installed on your current PC?
[09:14] <Squirm> the one with the 3G
[09:14] <Kilos> i ran your command and it said nameserver 8.8.8.8
[09:14] <Kilos> yessir\
[09:16] <Squirm> and from this PC. if you do a nslookup google.com
[09:16] <Squirm> it should spit out some stuff
[09:16] <Squirm> but the first two lines, paste those for me please
[09:16] <theblazehen> Kilos "cat /etc/resolv.conf" has  nameserver 8.8.8.8m
[09:16] <Squirm> or the first, "Server: blah blah"
[09:17] <Kilos> Server:         127.0.0.1
[09:17] <Kilos> Address:        127.0.0.1#53
[09:17] <Kilos> eish that 127 thing again
[09:17] <Squirm> ok, so dnsmasq is running locally
[09:17] <Squirm> that's good
[09:17] <theblazehen> Eish..
[09:18]  * ThatGraemeGuy has a strong sense of deja vu... o_O
[09:18] <Squirm> I know ThatGraemeGuy 
[09:18] <Squirm> ok
[09:18] <Squirm> Kilos: 
[09:18] <Kilos> yes Squirm  
[09:18] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy: haha
[09:18] <Squirm> on your OC
[09:18] <Squirm> PC
[09:18] <Squirm> edit /etc/dnsmasq.cong
[09:18] <Squirm> edit /etc/dnsmasq.conf
[09:18] <theblazehen> Lol, lag to bouncer is 5 seconds here :(
[09:19] <Squirm> hmm, seems to not exist on my PC
[09:19] <theblazehen> Up to 24 now...
[09:19] <Squirm> and the firewall on your PC accepts port 53?
[09:19] <theblazehen> That's seconds. 24 seconds
[09:20] <Squirm> xChat says I'm sitting at .4s
[09:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> dnsmasq is tightly interwoven with NetworkManager
[09:20] <Kilos> Server:         127.0.0.1
[09:20] <Kilos> Address:        127.0.0.1#53
[09:20] <Kilos> sorry
[09:20] <Squirm> ThatGraemeGuy: so, he has access to the internet. ping works. it's just to get his dns working now...
[09:20] <Squirm> Kilos: I hope you're keeping note of everything that works
[09:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm staying out of it
[09:21] <Kilos> Address:        127.0.0.1#53
[09:21] <Kilos> what editing must i do
[09:21] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy: good idea...
[09:21] <Squirm> Uncomment the line and specify which ethernet interface(s) you want it server IPs to. For example, if I want it to listen on eth1 (my DMZ) and eth2 (my local network), then it should look like:
[09:21] <Squirm> interface=eth1
[09:21] <Squirm> interface=eth2
[09:22] <Squirm> google ftw
[09:22]  * theblazehen is at 63% packet loss...
[09:22] <Squirm> so probably
[09:22] <Squirm> uncomment the line that says interface=eth0
[09:22] <Squirm> this is kind of new to me
[09:22]  * Squirm shrugs
[09:22] <Squirm> Kilos: without access, I'm pretty stuck
[09:22] <Squirm> hmm
[09:22] <Squirm> I also need to run now
[09:23]  * Squirm leaves Kilos to ThatGraemeGuy and theblazehen 
[09:23] <Squirm> ;)
[09:23] <theblazehen> Squirm: :(
[09:23] <Kilos>  /etc/dnsmasq.cong shows Address:        127.0.0.1#53
[09:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> nope, i'm apparently not helpful enough and impatient and rude so i'll stay out of it
[09:23] <Kilos> nothing else
[09:24] <Kilos> lol @ ThatGraemeGuy  
[09:24] <Kilos> i battle man
[09:24] <theblazehen> Kilos: you can ssh pc1 -> pc2?
[09:24] <Kilos> i cant do stuff fast like you guys
[09:24] <Kilos> no i cant ssh
[09:25] <theblazehen> OK. But you can ping?
[09:25] <Kilos> yes
[09:25] <theblazehen> Ah, nat...
[09:25] <theblazehen> Or wait..
[09:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: i know, but i don't feel like another round of being treated like a toddler by someone who barely spends any time here, so i'll just stfu and everybody stays happy :)
[09:26] <Kilos> ok
[09:26] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy: who's that you referring to?
[09:26] <Kilos> me
[09:27] <theblazehen> Kilos: you spend lots of time here...
[09:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> no, i got lectured a while ago, summary of "if you aren't going to be helpful to people regardless of skill level then perhaps leave the helping to others"
[09:27] <Kilos> no man he says i treat him like a toddler who doesnt spen time here
[09:27] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy: ah...
[09:28] <Kilos> and i apologised too at the time
[09:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm not even talking about you o_O
[09:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> heh
[09:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe i really should STFU
[09:29] <Kilos> no man help
[09:29] <Kilos> hehe
[09:29] <Kilos> keeps your day interesting
[09:29] <theblazehen> Kilos: tried #ubuntu?
[09:30] <Kilos> i cant keep up there
[09:30] <theblazehen> Kilos: forum?
[09:30] <Kilos> nope they dont understand either
[09:31] <Kilos> but ive googled lots and the info i have saved worked on old ubuntus but not on 14.04
[09:37] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy: http://i.imgur.com/28l8teD.jpg lol. From #reddit-sysadmin
[09:54] <Kilos> w00000t
[09:54] <Kilos> its working
[09:58] <Kilos> can ssh to the server too, ty guys
[10:01] <theblazehen> Kilos: nice! Everything working?
[10:01] <Kilos> yeah im so happy ty
[10:02] <Kilos> i just scrolled back here and redid everything so not sure what actually helped but have saved the whole days chat from here to a file
[10:02] <Kilos> now if this drive crashes we start all over
[10:02] <Kilos> hehe
[10:02] <Kilos> ty ThatGraemeGuy  you are also included
[10:03] <Kilos> and Squirm  
[10:03] <Kilos> now i can go pick meds
[10:16] <Kilos> hi gremble  
[10:21] <gremble> Hello kilos
[10:23] <theblazehen> hi gremble
[10:34]  * Squirm looks around
[10:35] <Kilos> hehe
[10:35]  * Squirm yawns
[10:36] <Kilos> sjoe day still long lad
[10:37] <Kilos> not yawning time yet
[10:38] <gremble> Hey theblazehen 
[11:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> theblazehen: they should use quadruple-ROT13 instead of base64_encode, silly amateurs
[11:08] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy: yeah! And maybe also convert from ASCII to EBCDIC
[11:09] <gremble> Quadruple-ROT13 is overkill.  You really only need ROT26 to be secure.
[11:09] <theblazehen> gremble: double rot26? Lol
[11:11] <gremble> ROT26! (! is for factorials)
[11:12] <gremble> Im typing up my very first latex document. I have no idea what Im doing
[11:14] <theblazehen> Rot 4.032915e26 ? Ok then...
[11:18] <gremble> Lol
[17:30] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:39] <inetpro> Maaz: hmm
[17:39] <Maaz> hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking
[17:39] <inetpro> is he?
[17:39] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:39] <Kilos> naand boetie
[17:40] <inetpro> good evening
[17:40] <Kilos> ya man im thinking of what to do with a running server
[17:40] <Kilos> wanna work out how to connect to it from outside as well
[17:41] <Kilos> the 3g thing is the bugbear
[17:42] <Kilos> will maybe even try teamviewer on it
[17:42] <inetpro> ai!
[17:42] <Kilos> lol
[17:44] <gremble> Have you tried catching it?
[17:44] <Kilos> catching?
[17:45] <Kilos> this be a yucky keyboard
[17:45] <gremble> Yes. If your server is running you aught to catch it I suppose
[17:45] <gremble> Before it gets away
[17:45] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:45] <Kilos> its tied down
[17:50] <Kilos> hi bushtech  hoe gaan dit daar
[18:05] <bushtech> Kilos: goed, nou net by die huis gekom. Hoe lyk dit jou kant?
[18:05] <Kilos> goed dankie
[18:19] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[18:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[18:53] <theblazehen> Hi Kilos ThatGraemeGuy and all
[18:53] <Kilos> hi theblazehen  
[19:01] <theblazehen> was at school for 13 hours today...
[19:01] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:04] <Kilos> oh theblazehen  echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf is what allowed it to ping www.google.com
[19:04] <theblazehen> Kilos: yeah, thought so
[19:04] <theblazehen> need to do it every boot
[19:04] <Kilos> i rebooted it and had to do that again
[19:05] <Kilos> ya i added it to what i need to do on reboots
[19:05] <Kilos> ty
[19:21] <theblazehen> New hardware come in today L)
[19:21] <Kilos> what?
[19:23] <theblazehen> i7-4790K, 64 GB SSD, mouse with 7 buttons
[19:23] <Kilos> my new harddrive is coming tomorrow
[19:23] <theblazehen> Kilos: nice, how big?
[19:23] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:23] <Kilos> 1TB
[19:24] <Kilos> 2TB too expensive still
[19:24] <theblazehen> ah
[19:25] <Kilos> then i can do data recovery on my 500G drive that crashed and hopefully save most of what i lost
[19:26] <Kilos> cant do it from an 80G there aint place to save stuff
[19:26] <Kilos> hehe
[19:27] <Kilos> i actually enjoy doing testdisk foremost and scalpel even though its very time consuming
[20:39] <Kilos> evening superfly  
[21:15] <Kilos> server updated/upgraded
[21:15] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight