[05:44] Morning everyone [05:53] morning [05:55] Hi Squirm bduk1 [06:23] 'lo Kilos [06:23] morning Squirm inetpro and others i dont yet see as online [06:24] konversation takes its time checking [06:24] Hi Kilos [06:25] hi theblazehen [06:25] lol maybe im getting there now, got this pc to ping the server last night [06:26] using direct cable. no crossover and no added eth card [06:26] maybe this new m/board does it automatically [06:26] Great! [06:27] weird hey [06:27] i went to the game but you were asleep already [06:59] yeah [06:59] nice game [07:00] * theblazehen is in computer class now :) [07:01] enjoy and concentrate [07:01] they might be able to teach you something [07:01] no playing on fone [07:01] yeah, just on PC ;) [07:02] lol, gtg. next class [07:02] besides I won't be using office much anyway [07:02] ya but you might need to help others so concentrate [07:04] Yeah [07:04] Yay 3g [07:05] hehe [07:05] Signal at school sucks [07:06] * Kilos cries [07:06] http://mybroadband.co.za/news/adsl/110302-r1-per-gb-adsl-products-launched.html [07:07] hi ThatGraemeGuy [07:07] and nlsthzn and nuvolari_ [07:10] ai! [07:11] http://mybroadband.co.za/news/security/110316-mass-hacking-of-south-african-websites.html [07:43] hi Spekko StonedAlchemist [07:52] More more Kilos [07:56] * Squirm looks around [07:56] * Squirm then goes to find some decent coffee [08:06] ooo yay can ping 8.8.8.8 from my server using direct cable and dnsmasg [08:08] hi jrgns [08:12] hey Kilos [08:16] dnsmasq is a dns server/forwarder [08:17] try and ping www.google.co.za [08:17] at least afaik [08:17] :P [08:20] isnt 8.8.8.8 google [08:21] yes, but I don't think dnsmasq will have anything to do with you being able to ping 8.8.8.8 [08:21] i need to forward because the server pc must share this 3g connection [08:21] yes you do [08:21] try and ping www.google.co.za [08:21] or any actualy website address :) [08:21] i cant even ping 8.8.8.8 anymore [08:22] done something wrong again [08:22] sigh [08:23] isnt dnsmasq involved in this command [08:23] iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp+ -j MASQUERADE [08:23] :P [08:23] no [08:23] oh ok [08:24] dnsmasq will be responsible for taking a website address and turning it into an IP address [08:24] oh [08:25] Kilos: you mean ppp0? [08:25] masquerade, afaik. takes your internal IP address and turns it into the IP address of your 3G connection [08:26] so it'll give your eth0 IP address of your server, the IP address of your ppp+ on your PC with the 3G dongle [08:26] oh well i dont mind what does what as long as i can get the server online [08:26] Yeah it does that [08:27] Kilos said PPP+ [08:27] im actually using this command [08:27] iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wwan+ -j MASQUERADE [08:27] same thing :) [08:27] just a different name [08:27] Ooh... [08:27] ya i dunno why the dlink modem shows as wwan0 not ppp0 [08:28] it's alright [08:28] maybe an update [08:28] or a different version, they just changed the naming of the 3G dongles [08:28] just to make things more difficult for me? [08:28] hehe [08:28] :P [08:29] like I said, just a name [08:29] and you figured it out [08:29] i struggled to get iftop workong [08:29] working [08:30] lemme try get it to ping www.google.co.za then ill come back to you [08:31] first, you do want to be able to ping 8.8.8.8 [08:31] then when that works, you want to be able to ping www.google.co.za [08:33] Or try nslookup Google.com [08:33] it can ping 8.8.8.8 but not www.google.co.za [08:33] Kilos: nslookup? [08:34] Kilos: on your server, what have you set the dns server to? [08:34] nope connection timed out [08:34] 192.168.1.2 [08:34] which is? [08:35] the PC with the 3G? [08:35] 192.168.1.50 [08:35] server is the first ip [08:35] your DNS server must be the computer with your 3G dongle [08:35] ya [08:36] nslookup times out [08:36] but 8.8.8.8 pings lekker fast [08:37] it wont let me ssh in [08:37] using the IP address? [08:37] then i can do things from here [08:37] oh [08:37] :P [08:38] it says ssh connection refused and i dunno how to turn off the firewall [08:38] service ufw stop [08:38] or [08:38] is ssh running? [08:38] service ssh start [08:39] * Squirm shrugs [08:39] i tried to ssh from here and got the refused thing [08:39] lemme try that [08:39] on the server you're connecting to though [08:39] ssh: unrecognised service [08:40] do i need to install ssh [08:40] you need to install the ssh server [08:40] if it hasn't been installed [08:41] on this pc or the server pc [08:41] aptitude install openssh-server [08:41] on the server pc [08:41] lets call them pc1 and pc2 [08:41] the one your're trying to connect to [08:41] ok sec [08:43] Squirm: apt uses DNS for mirrors? [08:43] but he might already have it installed and just needs to be started [08:43] Yeah.. [08:44] Squirm: maybe we should " echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf" ? [08:44] On server [08:45] nope ssh is an unknown service [08:45] problem is debian and their configuration files :/ as soon as you restart networking it'll probably be overwritten. [08:45] and i cant sudo apt-get update [08:45] Kilos: sshd? [08:45] Squirm: just for temporary [08:45] no [08:45] it is ssh [08:45] meh [08:47] package openssh-server has no installation candidate [08:47] sigh [08:47] Kilos: try change your dns server on your server to 8.8.8.8 [08:48] sjoe [08:48] how [08:48] Kilos: check what I posted a bit up [08:49] Will be reset on boot though [08:49] ah [08:49] when im running between pcs i miss things [08:49] sorry [08:49] Going to sucky signal, may go afk [08:50] Using a bouncer, so won't actually go offline [08:52] it showed nameserver 8.8.8.8 but i still cant apt-get update [08:52] grrr [08:55] now it cant ping 8.8.8.8 anymore [08:55] Kilos: "echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf" [08:55] oh lemme do that ty [08:57] traceroute 8.8.8.8 after that [09:00] eish i need to install traceroute but it cant find the package [09:01] needs update but dunno how we gonna accomplish that [09:06] Can you ping Google now [09:09] nope [09:10] And 8.8.8.8? [09:11] ya that works lekker [09:11] When you try Google does it show a IP? [09:12] nope just shows unknown host www.google.co.za [09:13] Hmm.. And /etc/resolv.conf has "nameserver 8.8.8.8" in it? [09:14] Kilos: do you have dnsmasq installed on your current PC? [09:14] the one with the 3G [09:14] i ran your command and it said nameserver 8.8.8.8 [09:14] yessir\ [09:16] and from this PC. if you do a nslookup google.com [09:16] it should spit out some stuff [09:16] but the first two lines, paste those for me please [09:16] Kilos "cat /etc/resolv.conf" has nameserver 8.8.8.8m [09:16] or the first, "Server: blah blah" [09:17] Server: 127.0.0.1 [09:17] Address: 127.0.0.1#53 [09:17] eish that 127 thing again [09:17] ok, so dnsmasq is running locally [09:17] that's good [09:17] Eish.. [09:18] * ThatGraemeGuy has a strong sense of deja vu... o_O [09:18] I know ThatGraemeGuy [09:18] ok [09:18] Kilos: [09:18] yes Squirm [09:18] ThatGraemeGuy: haha [09:18] on your OC [09:18] PC [09:18] edit /etc/dnsmasq.cong [09:18] edit /etc/dnsmasq.conf [09:18] Lol, lag to bouncer is 5 seconds here :( [09:19] hmm, seems to not exist on my PC [09:19] Up to 24 now... [09:19] and the firewall on your PC accepts port 53? [09:19] That's seconds. 24 seconds [09:20] xChat says I'm sitting at .4s [09:20] dnsmasq is tightly interwoven with NetworkManager [09:20] Server: 127.0.0.1 [09:20] Address: 127.0.0.1#53 [09:20] sorry [09:20] ThatGraemeGuy: so, he has access to the internet. ping works. it's just to get his dns working now... [09:20] Kilos: I hope you're keeping note of everything that works [09:21] i'm staying out of it [09:21] Address: 127.0.0.1#53 [09:21] what editing must i do [09:21] ThatGraemeGuy: good idea... [09:21] Uncomment the line and specify which ethernet interface(s) you want it server IPs to. For example, if I want it to listen on eth1 (my DMZ) and eth2 (my local network), then it should look like: [09:21] interface=eth1 [09:21] interface=eth2 [09:22] google ftw [09:22] * theblazehen is at 63% packet loss... [09:22] so probably [09:22] uncomment the line that says interface=eth0 [09:22] this is kind of new to me [09:22] * Squirm shrugs [09:22] Kilos: without access, I'm pretty stuck [09:22] hmm [09:22] I also need to run now [09:23] * Squirm leaves Kilos to ThatGraemeGuy and theblazehen [09:23] ;) [09:23] Squirm: :( [09:23] /etc/dnsmasq.cong shows Address: 127.0.0.1#53 [09:23] nope, i'm apparently not helpful enough and impatient and rude so i'll stay out of it [09:23] nothing else [09:24] lol @ ThatGraemeGuy [09:24] i battle man [09:24] Kilos: you can ssh pc1 -> pc2? [09:24] i cant do stuff fast like you guys [09:24] no i cant ssh [09:25] OK. But you can ping? [09:25] yes [09:25] Ah, nat... [09:25] Or wait.. [09:25] Kilos: i know, but i don't feel like another round of being treated like a toddler by someone who barely spends any time here, so i'll just stfu and everybody stays happy :) [09:26] ok [09:26] ThatGraemeGuy: who's that you referring to? [09:26] me [09:27] Kilos: you spend lots of time here... [09:27] no, i got lectured a while ago, summary of "if you aren't going to be helpful to people regardless of skill level then perhaps leave the helping to others" [09:27] no man he says i treat him like a toddler who doesnt spen time here [09:27] ThatGraemeGuy: ah... [09:28] and i apologised too at the time [09:28] i'm not even talking about you o_O [09:28] heh [09:29] maybe i really should STFU [09:29] no man help [09:29] hehe [09:29] keeps your day interesting [09:29] Kilos: tried #ubuntu? [09:30] i cant keep up there [09:30] Kilos: forum? [09:30] nope they dont understand either [09:31] but ive googled lots and the info i have saved worked on old ubuntus but not on 14.04 [09:37] ThatGraemeGuy: http://i.imgur.com/28l8teD.jpg lol. From #reddit-sysadmin [09:54] w00000t [09:54] its working [09:58] can ssh to the server too, ty guys [10:01] Kilos: nice! Everything working? [10:01] yeah im so happy ty [10:02] i just scrolled back here and redid everything so not sure what actually helped but have saved the whole days chat from here to a file [10:02] now if this drive crashes we start all over [10:02] hehe [10:02] ty ThatGraemeGuy you are also included [10:03] and Squirm [10:03] now i can go pick meds [10:16] hi gremble [10:21] Hello kilos [10:23] hi gremble [10:34] * Squirm looks around [10:35] hehe [10:35] * Squirm yawns [10:36] sjoe day still long lad [10:37] not yawning time yet [10:38] Hey theblazehen [11:02] theblazehen: they should use quadruple-ROT13 instead of base64_encode, silly amateurs [11:08] ThatGraemeGuy: yeah! And maybe also convert from ASCII to EBCDIC [11:09] Quadruple-ROT13 is overkill. You really only need ROT26 to be secure. [11:09] gremble: double rot26? Lol [11:11] ROT26! (! is for factorials) [11:12] Im typing up my very first latex document. I have no idea what Im doing [11:14] Rot 4.032915e26 ? Ok then... [11:18] Lol [17:30] hmm... [17:39] Maaz: hmm [17:39] hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking [17:39] is he? [17:39] hahaha [17:39] naand boetie [17:40] good evening [17:40] ya man im thinking of what to do with a running server [17:40] wanna work out how to connect to it from outside as well [17:41] the 3g thing is the bugbear [17:42] will maybe even try teamviewer on it [17:42] ai! [17:42] lol [17:44] Have you tried catching it? [17:44] catching? [17:45] this be a yucky keyboard [17:45] Yes. If your server is running you aught to catch it I suppose [17:45] Before it gets away [17:45] hahaha [17:45] its tied down [17:50] hi bushtech hoe gaan dit daar [18:05] Kilos: goed, nou net by die huis gekom. Hoe lyk dit jou kant? [18:05] goed dankie [18:19] hi ThatGraemeGuy [18:37] 'lo [18:53] Hi Kilos ThatGraemeGuy and all [18:53] hi theblazehen [19:01] was at school for 13 hours today... [19:01] sjoe [19:04] oh theblazehen echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf is what allowed it to ping www.google.com [19:04] Kilos: yeah, thought so [19:04] need to do it every boot [19:04] i rebooted it and had to do that again [19:05] ya i added it to what i need to do on reboots [19:05] ty [19:21] New hardware come in today L) [19:21] what? [19:23] i7-4790K, 64 GB SSD, mouse with 7 buttons [19:23] my new harddrive is coming tomorrow [19:23] Kilos: nice, how big? [19:23] sjoe [19:23] 1TB [19:24] 2TB too expensive still [19:24] ah [19:25] then i can do data recovery on my 500G drive that crashed and hopefully save most of what i lost [19:26] cant do it from an 80G there aint place to save stuff [19:26] hehe [19:27] i actually enjoy doing testdisk foremost and scalpel even though its very time consuming [20:39] evening superfly [21:15] server updated/upgraded [21:15] night all. sleep tight