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| NotEspy | Gnome 3.14.0 came out.. today, right? | 01:35 |
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| fancyfetus | hey guys | 06:58 |
| fancyfetus | when I was first setting up linux, I asked the #ubuntu guys if there was benefit to installing ubuntu gnome instead as I was planning to exclusively use gnome. | 07:00 |
| fancyfetus | They argued with me that ubuntu gnome wasn't a thing at all and that it was JUST ubuntu + gnome | 07:00 |
| fancyfetus | now that I know otherwise, I'm looking at switching to ubuntu-gnome | 07:01 |
| fancyfetus | I do have a couple of questions, however. | 07:02 |
| fancyfetus | Is there a way for me to "snapshot" my current set up on an external harddrive | 07:02 |
| fancyfetus | and restore that setup if I mess everything up? | 07:03 |
| mgedmin | you're talking about backups | 07:10 |
| fancyfetus | mgedmin, just in case I fail in installing ubuntu-gnome | 07:18 |
| mgedmin | backups are always a good idea -- your hard disk might fail at any moment | 07:18 |
| fancyfetus | yes sir! Thinking of using clonezilla to back it ALL up | 07:19 |
| mgedmin | if you've already got an ubuntu install, I don't think there's much point in reinstalling ubuntu-gnome | 07:19 |
| fancyfetus | you think so? | 07:19 |
| mgedmin | you can migrate from one to the other by apt-get installing metapackages | 07:19 |
| mgedmin | (it's what I did a few years back) | 07:19 |
| mgedmin | otoh reinstalling is always a nice way to get rid of all the accumulated cruft | 07:19 |
| mgedmin | (things like packages you've installed and then never used etc) | 07:19 |
| mgedmin | I always reinstall when I buy a new hard disk | 07:20 |
| fancyfetus | I'm on a pretty fresh install riht now | 07:20 |
| fancyfetus | right* | 07:20 |
| fancyfetus | and i'm very happy with my setup | 07:20 |
| mgedmin | it's also an opportunity to test if your backups are complete :) | 07:20 |
| fancyfetus | Mainly looking for a way to update to the latest version of gnome 3.12 | 07:20 |
| fancyfetus | can I just "do that" | 07:20 |
| mgedmin | there's a ppa that contains gnome 3.12 | 07:20 |
| fancyfetus | Is there a "stable" ppa? | 07:21 |
| fancyfetus | i've found a lot of gnome 3 ppas | 07:22 |
| mgedmin | I've been running 14.04 + gnome3 ppa + gnome3-staging ppa for a while now | 07:24 |
| mgedmin | without too many stability problems | 07:24 |
| fancyfetus | cool! | 07:24 |
| fancyfetus | gnome3-staging and gnome3 are the ppas I go with, then! | 07:24 |
| mgedmin | every time I enable some gnome-shell extensions I end up regretting it (freezes etc) | 07:24 |
| mgedmin | but when I disable them things go back to stable | 07:24 |
| fancyfetus | I have a bunch installed | 07:25 |
| fancyfetus | openweather and backslide | 07:25 |
| fancyfetus | not as much as I thought | 07:26 |
| fancyfetus | mgedmin, installing 3.12 now :D | 07:39 |
| fancyfetus | Thanks for your help, I'll let you know how it goes | 07:40 |
| l3on | darkxst, libgweather' branches are ready for review: bug 1370464 (trusty and utopic tested, everything works fine) | 07:50 |
| ubot5 | bug 1370464 in libgweather (Ubuntu) "yr.no changed the api version" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1370464 | 07:50 |
| fancyfetus | hey guys | 08:02 |
| fancyfetus | mgedmin, I just installed 3.12 | 08:02 |
| fancyfetus | and I'm facing some problems | 08:03 |
| fancyfetus | I don't have a settings app anymore | 08:03 |
| fancyfetus | ctrl+shift+t does not open my terminal | 08:03 |
| fancyfetus | Is there a way to fix these? If not, is there a way to revert back to 3.10? | 08:03 |
| mgedmin | sure | 08:04 |
| mgedmin | (1) what is 'a settings app'? | 08:04 |
| fancyfetus | It's just the systems settings that comes with ubuntu | 08:05 |
| mgedmin | ok, can you open gnome-control-center from a terminal? | 08:05 |
| fancyfetus | no | 08:05 |
| fancyfetus | should I install it? | 08:05 |
| mgedmin | it should be pulled in by ubuntu-gnome-desktop | 08:07 |
| mgedmin | do you have that installed? | 08:07 |
| fancyfetus | nope | 08:07 |
| mgedmin | install it | 08:07 |
| mgedmin | as for (2), I believe ctrl-shift-t is no longer a hardcoded shortcut, but you can define a custom shortcut in the control center (once you've got it installed) and have it launch gnome-terminal | 08:07 |
| fancyfetus | uh oh | 08:08 |
| mgedmin | wait, actually no | 08:08 |
| fancyfetus | The following packages have unmet dependencies: ubuntu-gnome-desktop : Depends: gnome-control-center but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. | 08:08 |
| mgedmin | I don't have a custom shortcut | 08:08 |
| mgedmin | and ctrl+shift+t works for me | 08:08 |
| mgedmin | fancyfetus, can you pastebin the entire apt-get output? | 08:08 |
| mgedmin | to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | 08:08 |
| fancyfetus | http://paste.ubuntu.com/8409112/ | 08:09 |
| mgedmin | ok, I checked my sysadmin diary | 08:09 |
| mgedmin | the packages in the gnome-staging ppa conflict with gnome-session-fallback | 08:10 |
| mgedmin | you should be able to apt-get remove gnome-session-fallback and then apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop | 08:10 |
| mgedmin | at least it worked for me | 08:10 |
| mgedmin | I'd've warned you if I hadn't forgotten about this speedbump :/ | 08:11 |
| fancyfetus | haha, it's alright, no hard feelings | 08:11 |
| fancyfetus | gnome-session-fallback is not installed. | 08:12 |
| mgedmin | ain't it fun? | 08:13 |
| mgedmin | here's my diary entry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8409134/ | 08:13 |
| fancyfetus | the woes of the linux lyfe. | 08:14 |
| mgedmin | there's a reason ubuntu gnome 14.04 comes with gnome 3.10, and the staging ppa is labeled "experimental" :( | 08:14 |
| mgedmin | but don't worry, this is fixable | 08:14 |
| mgedmin | try removing gnome-session-flashback | 08:14 |
| fancyfetus | lmao | 08:15 |
| fancyfetus | flashback was not installed either | 08:15 |
| mgedmin | if that's not sufficient, remove unity-settings-daemon and unity-control-center | 08:16 |
| mgedmin | the goal is to have ubuntu-gnome-desktop installed | 08:16 |
| mgedmin | you may want to try aptitude install ubuntu-gnome-desktop -- it tries hard to resolve conflicts and offers you multiple solutions | 08:17 |
| fancyfetus | uninstalling gnome control center now | 08:17 |
| mgedmin | I don't like aptitude because sometimes the solutions are "hey let's remove some very important packages, you won't miss them" | 08:17 |
| mgedmin | and sometimes the solutions are so complicated I don't understand them :) | 08:17 |
| mgedmin | anyway don't remove any important-sounding packages before asking here | 08:17 |
| mgedmin | (some important-sounding packages aren't actually important) | 08:17 |
| mgedmin | "uninstalling gnome control center now" confuses me -- you said you didn't have gnome-control-center installed | 08:18 |
| mgedmin | did you mean "uninstalling unity-control-center"? | 08:18 |
| fancyfetus | yes yes | 08:18 |
| fancyfetus | my bad | 08:18 |
| fancyfetus | unity control center | 08:18 |
| mgedmin | ok | 08:18 |
| fancyfetus | it auto installed gnome control center | 08:19 |
| mgedmin | cool | 08:19 |
| mgedmin | perhaps you noticed: did it also upgrade gnome-settings-daemon? | 08:19 |
| fancyfetus | yes | 08:19 |
| mgedmin | because IIRC it's gnome-settings-daemon that handles ctrl+shift+t -> launch terminal; and this got removed at some point (for 3.8?) and then got added back due to popular outcry, or something like that | 08:20 |
| fancyfetus | hmmm | 08:20 |
| mgedmin | anyway it's likely that if you log out and log back in (to get the new versions of all the gnome components running) ctrl+shift+t should start working again | 08:20 |
| fancyfetus | I had it in 3.10 | 08:20 |
| mgedmin | it's complicated and I don't remember the details -- I remember having to add a custom shortcut at some point, but I don't have it now | 08:21 |
| fancyfetus | alright see you in a sec | 08:21 |
| mgedmin | ubuntu might've patched it back | 08:21 |
| mgedmin | the handling might've gotten moved from gnome-settings-daemon to some other piece | 08:21 |
| fancyfetus_ | worked like a charm! | 08:22 |
| fancyfetus_ | Thanks! | 08:22 |
| fancyfetus_ | and all of my extensions are still working | 08:22 |
| mgedmin | awesome | 08:23 |
| darkxst | ctl+alt+T does work in the ubuntu packages | 08:34 |
| darkxst | both archive and -staging ppa should have the same patch | 08:35 |
| darkxst | l3on, you need to make the merges against the ~ubuntu-desktop branches | 08:37 |
| darkxst | utopic: lp:~ubuntu-desktop/libgweather/ubuntu | 08:38 |
| darkxst | not sure about trusty, maybe using the ubuntu branch is ok for that one | 08:39 |
| l3on | darkxst, why not default lp:ubuntu/libgweather ? | 08:40 |
| darkxst | l3on, in general you can check Vcs-Bzr tag in control file to find the packaging branch for merges | 08:40 |
| darkxst | l3on, that is not the packaging branch | 08:40 |
| l3on | Oh .. I see (maybe) because that lib is maintain in Ubuntu (and not merged from debian) | 08:40 |
| darkxst | l3on, all packages maintained by ubuntu-desktop team use packaging branches on bzr | 08:41 |
| darkxst | lp:ubuntu/libgweather is just autogenerated after an upload to the archive (i.e. its not possible to manually merge changes into that without breaking things) | 08:42 |
| darkxst | some sponsors will merge it anyway, but most will tell you to make the merge against packaging branch | 08:43 |
| darkxst | and I don't yet have upload rights for ubuntu-desktop, should probably get onto applying for that soon though. | 08:44 |
| l3on | darkxst, bzr push lp:~l3on/libgweather/fix-1370464 is it right ? | 08:45 |
| l3on | to propose lp-merge | 08:45 |
| darkxst | l3on, you will need to rebase on the ~u-desktop branch first | 08:46 |
| l3on | darkxst, already done | 08:46 |
| darkxst | they don't have any any upstream files | 08:46 |
| darkxst | ok, then just push | 08:46 |
| darkxst | and choose the ~u-d branch when propose merge | 08:46 |
| darkxst | also we are frozen this week, so might take a week or so for someone to upload it | 08:47 |
| l3on | darkxst, https://code.launchpad.net/~l3on/libgweather/fix-1370464/+merge/235574 | 08:48 |
| fancyfetus_ | darkxst, do you work on gnome? | 08:48 |
| fancyfetus_ | or ubuntu-gnome or something | 08:48 |
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| darkxst | l3on, looks mostly fine, but normally cherry-picked patches would be name with git_ prefix | 09:06 |
| darkxst | something like git_update_yr.no_API.patch would be fine | 09:07 |
| l3on | ok, fixing. | 09:07 |
| l3on | darkxst, done | 09:13 |
| darkxst | l3on, without actually testing, that looks fine to me | 09:15 |
| l3on | I tested both utopic and trusty with gnome-weather and it works again. | 09:15 |
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| LinDol | hi all | 12:39 |
| monae | i used this sudo pm suspend command | 13:24 |
| monae | the computer went to sleep but after that when i pressed the power button i was not able to come back to ubuntu ,it is showing black screen | 13:25 |
| keseve | @sgo11 | 13:33 |
| meetingology | keseve: Error: "sgo11" is not a valid command. | 13:33 |
| fancyfetus | hey guys, I'm running gnome 3.12 on ubuntu 14.04 | 14:16 |
| fancyfetus | Where can I find the gnome software center? | 14:16 |
| fancyfetus | I don't think I have it installed. | 14:17 |
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| Mrnumber3isme | Hello room | 18:42 |
| Mrnumber3isme | After installing, I get error Warning! /dev/disk/by-uuidXXXXX does not exist! then I get dropped into busybox. I've edited fstab, I've added nomodeset to boot params. I've tried installing multiple versions. always the same issue. any thoughts? | 18:45 |
| Mrnumber3isme | Bueller? ... Bueller? | 18:49 |
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