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Nothing_Muchuh... uh... where do I ask ubuntu touch questions?00:40
Nothing_Much#ubuntu-touch?00:40
knomesounds right00:40
Nothing_Muchgot it!00:41
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balloonselopio, remind me to chat with you about https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-filemanager-dev/ubuntu-filemanager-app/force-authentication-parameter/+merge/234015 :-)16:03
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elopioballoons: it's huge. Can it be split into renaming emulators.py and the auth parameter?16:05
balloonselopio, yea I know.. I did the work because launching didn't work properly until the conversion was done. It was easier to fix it all then to just fix it under the old launcher. The point I want to ask about though is my last comment https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-filemanager-dev/ubuntu-filemanager-app/force-authentication-parameter/+merge/234015/comments/57616716:06
elopioballoons: do you mean that if it's not preinstalled, the tests won't work?16:10
balloonselopio, yes the get_installed_version will only get the output of click list. But if I push and manually install something locally it doesn't show as the version in click list16:11
balloonsI think this is do to the changes around signed packages perhaps16:11
balloonsI seem to remember before my manual app updates would show in click list16:12
elopioI tried to get the manifest of a package I installed and the path was from opt16:12
elopioso I thought it was going to work.16:12
balloonsso tldr, what happens is it launches the installed version of the app, not the version of the app I pushed16:12
elopioif that's not the case, then it should be a problem on click list. I can give it a try after finishing my testing.16:12
balloonselopio, I just wanted to let you know, and I'll spend some more time tracking it down since I'm already in it :-)16:13
elopioballoons: oh, in that case you have both installed.16:13
balloonselopio, yea.. which didn't use to be16:13
balloonsyou used to overwrite the installed version16:13
elopioI'm not sure what should be the click behaviour in that case. I would expect it to uninstall the previous one and leave only the manually installed one, but I guess that doesn't work for read-only file system.16:14
elopioballoons: please let me know what you find.16:14
elfyballoons: hi :)16:14
balloonshello elfy16:14
balloonsI'm all zynced up, you?16:14
elfylol16:15
elfyhours ago16:15
elfyand I've posted my critical fail results to the tracker too, you? :p16:15
balloonssame hehe.. but I've not posted, because I've not tested yet16:16
elfy:)16:16
elfyI've not got time to doublecheck the ubuntu one - but assuming it fails vm with the lightdm bug - it might be useful to mail the list with the number to forestall a bunch of dupes16:17
balloonsI need to put the hard drive back into the test box16:19
elfyI'll be doing some hardware tests later - don't think they're affected by the lightdm issue16:20
slickymasterWorkapparently not elfy, jjfrv8 did all his tests with beta 2 and didn't report any failure16:21
elfyslickymasterWork: hardware?16:21
slickymasterWorkand those were on hardware16:21
slickymasterWork^^16:21
elfyright - thought so :)16:21
elfyI did check here when this new bug turned up - but not looked on hardware since then16:22
elopiocgregan: I read this about uber: http://www.technollama.co.uk/the-sharing-economy-is-anything-but16:28
elopiosorry cgregan, that was for cgoldberg. ^16:29
cgregan:-)16:29
cgoldbergelopio, uber has nearly pushed boston taxis out of business.. and thats a good thing :)16:34
elopiocgoldberg: yes, it sounds cool. But it brings so many new problems.16:44
elopiowhat would be great is just to go to the street and if you see an empty car that goes in your way, you jump in :)16:44
elopioof course, then you can end up dead in a Costa Rican mountain.16:44
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balloonsbeta images trashing vm's :-(18:24
wxlwhaa?18:24
elfyare you surprised?18:24
wxli just want our darn desktop images :)18:24
elfyheh18:25
elfywxl: balloons might be able to do it for you - not sure18:25
wxlballoons: lubuntu desktop images are totally missing off the tracker?18:25
elfyballoons: at least it's only vm's - hardware install is still working18:25
balloonselfy, not surprised as you gave us the head's up, just sad18:25
elfyyea18:26
elfyballoons: frankly lightdm or something to do with logging in on vm's has been off and on since lightdm left .7 behind18:27
elfythat was at least when I first saw the issue in this machine18:28
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balloonswxl, I only see alt images--- that what you mean>/18:29
balloonsI certainly can, but I don't want to step on toes18:30
balloonsI can confirm they are not part of the milestone18:31
elfyballoons: mailed qa list re 1371651 so we don't get hundreds of dupes18:32
wxlballoons: yeah that's the problem. it certainly shouldn't be that way. no one got in touch with me about it, so i see no reason why they SHOULDN'T be there.18:32
balloonselfy, thanks18:34
balloonswxl, you should have permission to publish18:34
* balloons checks perms18:34
wxlballoons: i can't even find the desktop one anywhere though18:34
balloonslubuntu release definitely owns them18:35
balloonsshall I publish then?18:35
wxlwell sheesh i wish i could find them. i should be looking under beta 2 no?18:36
balloonswxl, they aren't published, but the lubuntu release team owns them. They should be able to publish them18:36
wxlballoons: could you link me to where you see them?18:37
balloonswxl, they are not published. they don't exist on that milestone18:37
balloonshttps://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-release is 404?18:37
wxlaye that may be the problem18:38
wxlhttps://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-product-managers18:38
balloonsahh, there we are18:38
balloonselfy, lol, you are blocked on my test tracker.. what did you do? :-)18:39
elfyno idea18:40
wxlok i think i finally found where to edit this but it's asking for a version number. that's the iso date?18:40
elfyballoons: tried to login I think - it got lost with openid :)18:40
balloonsyea should work.. sorry, sidebarring18:40
elfythough tbh I have forgotten all about that now the real one works ish :)18:41
wxlok there we go18:41
wxl:)18:41
elfy:)18:42
elfyballoons: as you did such a superb job with that - can you fix lightdm :D18:42
balloonslol18:42
wxlweird why are there there two entries about the builds being added?18:44
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elfyanyway - as I was saying balloons - just blame mhall119 :)18:46
balloonsit is generally his fault yes.. ohh why, speaking of mhall11918:47
balloonsthere he is18:47
elfyoh yea - so he is18:47
elfyballoons: serious question now :)18:52
elfyassuming that lightdm stays the same, no respins, should we mark them ready on thursday?18:53
knomeready even if it's borked? :)18:53
knomemy worry is that if they aren't fixed for this beta, when are they going to be fixed so that we will be able to confirm that they actually work?18:54
elfyindeed18:54
knomesure, it's "only" virtual machines, but still it's not a small issue18:55
balloonselfy, I assume even if the same they would like greenlight the images anyways. But I'm not so sure I would say that's a good idea18:55
knomeit isn't very sustainable to keep something that breaks all virtualized images..18:55
balloonsyep, being final beta I would consider it something big enough to make or break an image18:56
elfymy worry isn't that they fix them in time - but this is the 2nd or 3rd time in as many weeks this type of thing has occurred18:56
knomeimo, greenlighting the images would be ok if there was *a* *true* *promise* that it *will* *be* *fixed* before the final release18:56
balloonsneed that test ,,,18:56
elfyso what happens when it happens a few days after the final release releases18:56
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balloonselfy, we do what we can :-) I hope it doesn't happen again.19:03
elfyindeed :)19:03
elfysurely if it's fubar on release week they'd not actually do it19:03
elfyanyway - no point worrying too much about that far away when it's fubar now :)19:04
knomeyes, it needs to be fixed before it can break again on release week :P19:05
balloonsknome, so true19:05
balloonsbunosera Letozaf_19:06
Letozaf_balloons, buonasera :)19:06
balloonsLetozaf_, look what else popped up ;-) https://code.launchpad.net/~flscogna/ubuntu-terminal-app/fix-add-forceAuth/+merge/235537. think you can do the same?19:07
elfyhey Letozaf_ - I finally caught up with you - I've been meaning to congrats on membership since I saw it the first time :)19:07
balloonsI'm sure you saw the comment I left on https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-filemanager-dev/ubuntu-filemanager-app/force-authentication-parameter/+merge/234015. I think it works19:08
Letozaf_elfy, hello and thank you :-)19:08
* Letozaf_ is reading19:08
Letozaf_balloons, ok yes I can do the same on the terminal app :)19:17
balloonsLetozaf_, thanks!19:18
Letozaf_balloons, yw :-)19:18
mhall119elfy: balloons: you know I was around earlier, just had my IRC server rebooted19:42
elfyI had assumed so - but the chance presented itself so I took it :)19:42
mhall119as one must :)19:42
elfyof course :)19:43
Letozaf_balloons, I was trying to push my changes but got: bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(chroot-94369936:///~flscogna/ubuntu-terminal-app/fix-add-forceAuth/.bzr/branch/lock): Transport operation not possible: readonly transport19:48
balloonsLetozaf_, yes, his branch doesn't let anyone contribute to it19:54
balloonsLetozaf_, so make a new branch under terminal devs19:55
Letozaf_balloons, ok19:55
balloonswe will also need to resubmit the proposal for that reason19:55
balloonsso lp:~ubuntu-terminal-dev/ubuntu-terminal-app/blah19:55
Letozaf_balloons, ok thks19:56
elfyballoons: might have a clue with this lightdm issue from someone19:56
balloonselfy, what did you figure out/19:57
elfyhang on - testing19:58
Letozaf_balloons, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-terminal-dev/ubuntu-terminal-app/fix-add-forceAuth/+merge/23571119:58
elfyballoons: ok - confirmed it - boot with systemd and it works fine19:59
balloonselfy, but I wanted to blame systemd!19:59
elfyha20:00
elfycommented in bug20:00
balloonslol, I think you could provide more details :-) But awesome20:03
balloonsLetozaf_, awesome, I see the new mo20:04
balloons*mp20:04
Letozaf_balloons, :) my device is ko, fixing it20:04
elfyballoons: it would be better if you could edit comments in LP - but I can't so I added more detail :)20:14
Letozaf_balloons, PASSED: Continuous integration, rev:151   :P20:15
balloonsty ty20:21
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Letozaf_balloons, I wanted to check this test: https://code.launchpad.net/~carla-sella/ubuntu-clock-app/new-add_world_city_test/+merge/231131 but running clock app test now gives me this:20:31
Letozaf_Fail to connect with client Unable to connect to 'Tasks': Cannot open calendar: Data source 'Tasks' does not support OAuth 2.0 authentication20:31
Letozaf_(qmlscene:6627): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed20:31
Letozaf_(qmlscene:6627): libecal-CRITICAL **: e_cal_client_get_view: assertion 'E_IS_CAL_CLIENT (client)' failed20:31
balloonsLetozaf_, that might be something for nik90 to answer20:35
Letozaf_balloons, ok I will ask him20:36
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wxlhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20140923/utopic-desktop-powerpc.iso is a 404. do i need to rebuild or what?21:04
balloonswxl, ?21:12
wxlballoons: well, i guess i don't know why the image is not there? ;)21:13
wxli386 too http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20140923/utopic-desktop-i386.iso21:13
wxlballoons: i'm kind of asking the noob question here. a rebuild should fix this no?21:14
balloonswxl, bah no, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/utopic-desktop-i386.iso21:19
wxlballoons: but that's not what's linked under beta21:20
wxlballoons: similar urls are used for alternate which works fine21:20
wxlballoons: i mean you're welcome to yell at the iso tracker and tell it it messed up :)21:20
balloonswxl, no the links are definitely not there21:21
balloonsbuild away21:21
wxlok :)21:21
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