[05:38] More almal [05:56] morning bduk superfly nlsthzn nuvolari_ inetpro theblazehen and others [05:57] eish we have a meeting tonight [06:00] morning [06:00] hi Squirm [06:00] nuvolari_ dont forget you are the chair tonight hey [06:04] handing in my notice today [06:04] * Squirm shivers [06:04] sjoe [06:04] no more free chow [06:05] morning [06:08] morning superfly [06:08] Kilos: nope :P [06:12] hey Kilos [06:15] Kilos: we're taking things as they come... if I'm here then I'm here. [06:15] thats fine ty superfly , hows the newling? [06:16] and mom? [06:37] * Squirm goes and squats in nuvolari_'s garden [06:38] hi Squirm [06:39] hi [06:40] eish eish eish [06:40] 8ta moved night surfer to from midnight to 7 am [06:41] Kilos: what was it before? [06:42] 11pm to 6 am [06:42] ah [06:42] would have been nice to have them notify me first though [06:43] Kilos: how much do you pay, for how much? [06:43] you see https://www.afrihost.com/site/product/mobile_data? [06:44] R149 for 2+1 bundle [06:44] isnt afrihost with mtn? [06:44] R145 for 2+2 on afrihost [06:44] yeah, but resells it [06:45] ya but the mtn tower here is edge only [06:45] i cant go back to 9 hour upgrades [06:48] Ai [06:51] Kilos: only telecom got good signal? [06:51] and voda but voda very unstable [06:52] but fast when working [06:52] 8ta signal full strength [06:54] and 8 call centre is so much faster and more efficient [06:56] 'lo [06:56] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:57] skype is huge hey, near 48 million people online [07:02] 47255229 [07:03] phew that is a lot [07:03] when i started using skype there were typically about 8 million online [07:03] yeah no wonder the net battles. i spose most are on video calls too [07:04] heh [07:04] i just use it in im mode [07:04] yeah skype is killing the internet [07:04] or maybe 3G is just inherently flaky [07:04] because some peeps dont do msn mxit or irc [07:04] mmmm wonder which it is? [07:05] haha you dont like 3g [07:05] i think my setup could do vido calls but the cost will kill me [07:06] its not that, but you keep saying the internet sucks but it really doesn't [07:07] i mean that its not always good and fast [07:07] that isn't skype's fault [07:07] like heavily over loaded at times [07:07] no it isn't [07:07] ah [07:07] "the" internet is fine [07:07] "your" connection is flaky [07:07] no man [07:07] yes man [07:07] rofl [07:08] do you always get fast download speed or does it chop and change [07:08] its fast 99% of the time [07:08] whew thats lekker [07:09] so its the mobile peeps that get overloaded [07:09] wireless is just like that [07:09] so many factors, not only how many people are online [07:10] aha [07:10] don't aha, this isn't news [07:10] i told you this every night for a month while you were moaning about the minetest server :P [07:10] you mean like dust and fog etc [07:11] good morning [07:11] hey inetpro, ThatGraemeGuy [07:11] 'lo 'lo [07:11] hi inetpro please do the g+ thing [07:11] Kilos: yeah, ThatGraemeGuy is correct. Wireless always sucks [07:12] for various amounts of suck [07:12] and you are attending tonight hey inetpro [07:12] rural peeps dont have a choice [07:12] other than moving to town [07:15] hmm.... meeting again this evening? [07:15] yessir inetpro [07:15] ive sent a mail to the list [07:15] without links but [07:15] I last added other dudes so they could do the g+ thing man [07:15] they not here [07:16] nuvolari_: waar is jy? [07:16] hahaha [07:16] passing the buck [07:16] ai! [07:17] is there any reason to have meetings still? [07:17] im not sure to be honest [07:20] surely meetings allow us to be official? [07:20] isn't it in the rules [07:21] there was talk about things changing Squirm [07:22] as in all we get out of being an official loco is we can order new dvds with each release i think [07:24] Kilos: and the loco list, and mailing list? [07:24] i think we keep that [07:24] ThatGraemeGuy: can I get the minetest address again pls? [07:24] mt.donaldson.za.net port 30000 [07:24] there was talk about them dropping the need to be accepted evry 2 years i think it was [07:25] ty [07:25] only have address on home pc.. So yeah [07:25] for once I <3 school internet :) got 25 mbit on speed test [07:25] lol [07:26] wonder if they use VDSL or the new telkom fibre? [07:33] intel's windows OpenGL drivers suck.. [07:33] school has HD 2600, at home I get better performance with linux HD2000 [07:36] ThatGraemeGuy: IS BLACK POWER CABLES 9000 mv? [07:36] yip [07:36] shit, caps lock [07:36] #minetest-za [07:38] ThatGraemeGuy: yeah, ok [08:43] the new big bang theory is out ^^ [08:43] I get to watch it tonight LO [08:43] :P [08:54] lol i enjoy that [09:01] hi jrgns [09:01] asnd Xethron [09:02] Hey all [09:39] oi inetpro wat het jy nou weer gebreek [09:39] ai! Jy vra vir my? [09:40] also like you okes are on wireless [09:40] hehe [09:41] I'm looking at getting the Telkom Mobile 60Gb deal [09:41] once I've moved [09:41] if I have no adsl where I am [09:42] Squirm: and I'm just waiting for fibre... [09:42] Kilos: what 3G do you have? [09:42] ya thats good that one if you can afford it [09:42] telkom [09:42] theblazehen: my new work place will probably have 20Mb fibre when I start [09:42] 8ta the best imo [09:42] thats lekker [09:42] Kilos: Credit Card, pay it off monthly like a normal account [09:42] ^^ [09:42] prepaid Squirm [09:43] Squirm: nice. From Telkom or where? [09:44] i get a 2+1 bundle as i need it. used to be 2 months on a 2+1 but minetest changed that a bit [09:44] 8ta [09:44] buy at any supermarket or post office etc [09:44] some of the supermarkets give you discount as well [09:46] theblazehen: R1800 once off, Telkom Mobile gives you 60Gb+60Gb to use in 12 Months [09:46] Maaz: 1800/12 [09:46] Squirm: 150.0 [09:46] so that's 5Gb+5Gb for R150pm [09:46] Maaz: 120/12 [09:46] theblazehen: 10.0 [09:46] if you're diligent enough to stop yourself after 5Gb... [09:46] yeah [09:47] Afrihost has a 3Gb+3Gb for R200pm [09:48] their 5Gb+5Gb is R300pm [09:48] double the price [09:48] yeah its just finding the initial cash to get the big one [09:49] but i maintain so far just had to cut gaming [09:49] yeah, I like keeping up to date with a few movies/series from time to time [09:50] im trying to save for an i5 cpu [09:50] aha [09:50] have you got one you're looking at? [09:51] best price was r2200 i think [09:51] but that will take a years saving, but this dual core is fine till then [09:51] at least i got a motherboard that can upgrade [09:52] 1155 [09:53] haha took 2.5 years to save up for the m/board with 4g ddr3 dvdwriter and a few psu's [09:53] hi Private_User [09:54] Kilos: I have a i3-2100 with LGA 1155 that I'm probably not gonna use soon [09:55] you going i7 theblazehen [09:55] Kilos: yeah [09:55] lekker [09:56] Yep :D gonna install it tonight, as well as my SSD [09:56] haha [09:57] im waiting on my new drive, the promised it today [09:58] trying to decide meantime whether to install 14.04 in unity or kde flavours [09:58] Ah. Xfce? [09:59] Look of xubuntu is really nice [09:59] i tried xubuntu with 12.04 but couldnt get some things working [09:59] Or reddit.com/r/unixporn/top for inspiration [09:59] i need stuff that just works, so i dont need help all the time [10:08] i spose i can get xubuntu-desktop on unity one night if i can stay up [10:08] Kilos: and maybe remove the unity stuff. Xfce is more lightweight [10:09] lol i like unity when its working [10:09] but lightweight is good too [10:10] actually 14.04 unity isnt bad, it just the setting up that is a pain for me [10:12] but id still like gnome2 back [10:12] mate on unity was faster but i can remember why i stopped using it [10:21] that's why I used Linux Mint Mate [10:21] Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu [10:22] and Mate is the Gnome 2 stule [10:22] style [10:22] yeah [10:22] but now I'm using Cinnamon on my Home machine [10:22] I prefer it [10:22] not that great in terms of dual monitor display, but it works [10:23] maybe ill try mate again [10:23] but even mate is a modified gnome2 [10:31] yes [10:31] it will be [10:32] you could probably just install gnome 2 on the latest Ubuntu, couldn't you? [10:38] wow i dunno [10:39] gnome 2 was way faster than unity and kde [10:39] lemme google [10:40] oh maybe its what they call classic [10:40] yes [10:45] xfce is nice and light [10:49] for starters ill try gnome-session-flashback methinks [10:50] but not on my kde [10:51] ill keep that as is [10:51] heh [10:51] fallback [10:51] um Kilos you do realise you can install as many DEs as you want and switch between them at login, you don't have to maintain a whole separate O/S install [10:51] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/ubuntu-14-04-classic-gnome-flashback-session [10:52] yeah ThatGraemeGuy i had mate on unity in 12.04 i thinks and it showed classic if im not mistaken [10:53] "mate on unity" makes no sense, both are DEs and neither depends on the other [10:53] you have them both, not 1 on the other [10:53] Squirm: tried a tiling wm? [10:54] theblazehen: nope [10:55] lol the first unity was a major shock [10:56] so i hunted for something i was more familiar with [10:56] unity lost ubuntu many followers [10:56] i'm surprised its still around, i thought it'd be dead by now [10:56] XFCE ftw! [10:57] xfce+ssd = happiness [10:57] it is growing i think, canonical must have some plan [10:57] very resource hungry though [10:57] but kde even hungrier [11:00] lunch time [11:00] lol ThatGraemeGuy, I used Linux Mint Cinnamon with my SSD, works too well :D. The slowest part of my PC is waiting for POST... [11:00] maybe I can change it to quick boot [11:00] yeah [11:01] used to be that a reboot was a thing to be avoided at all costs, now i don't care [11:01] yeah [11:01] POST literally takes longer than boot [11:01] yes [11:01] it bugs me :/ [11:01] a reboot takes about 5 seconds i think [11:01] login, apps open [11:01] magic [11:01] I also have a delay on GRUB [11:02] 5s I think [11:02] so I'm up in about 15s [11:02] * ThatGraemeGuy reboots for fun [11:02] I must actually time it when I get home :P [11:02] ... [11:02] he did just do that [11:02] bbl, lunch [11:02] Maaz: tell ThatGraemeGuy that I'll time mine when I'm home^^^ [11:02] Squirm: Sure, I'll tell ThatGraemeGuy on freenode [11:03] takes longer to reconnect to irc than to reboot [12:13] lol [12:16] ThatGraemeGuy: /me is gonna be installing my first SSD today.. Can't wait [12:17] nice :) [14:07] nuvolari_ ping [14:24] anybody running ubuntu 14.04LTS? === georgl_ is now known as georgl [14:25] I have resigned :D [14:25] new job - here I come [14:28] good [14:28] * Kilos cries [14:28] dont use first freight [14:29] they used to deliver next day now sommer say thursday [14:29] should have been here before lunch today [14:51] Maaz coffee on [14:51] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [14:55] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [14:55] Maaz ty [14:56] You are welcome Kilos [16:32] Kilos-, hi [16:32] hi StonedAlchemist [16:32] How are you doing? === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [16:32] well ty and you? [16:33] Not bad. Kinda bored lol [16:33] lol if you got uncapped play minetest [16:34] I'm trying to take a break from sandbox games. [16:34] hahaha [16:34] Especially now that Microsoft own Mojang [16:34] That was quite a surprise. [16:34] i only discovered how lekker it is a few months ago [16:35] I've been playing minecraft since beta 1.6 [16:35] oh , no we play the free one [16:36] Yeah I've tried it the other day. [18:31] o/ [18:31] hi nlsthzn [18:31] Maaz, I am Neil Oosthuizen [18:31] nlsthzn: What? [18:31] >.< [18:31] oh my i forgot about the meeting [18:32] inetpro ping [18:32] ah meeting not started yet? [18:32] nuvolari_ ping [18:32] lol [18:32] nope [18:34] hellooooooo [18:34] sjoe what a blow [18:35] how are you uncle Kilos ? [18:35] im ok ty nlsthzn and you lad [18:35] * nlsthzn was just dd'ing an iso to usb :p [18:35] and family? [18:35] nlsthzn: /me JUST did that! [18:35] we are doing quiet well, wife is getting fairly pregnant now :p [18:35] . === nuvolari_ is now known as nuvolari [18:35] oh the meeting! [18:36] :) [18:36] crappy network at home :'( [18:36] :( [18:36] > 7 s lag [18:36] nlsthzn: making the baby's the fun part! (Probably don't get the reference...) [18:36] ai! [18:36] lol [18:36] well, make that factors of10s [18:37] I am also having lag... of 0.1s ;) [18:37] ya me 520 ms [18:37] hang hight [18:37] tight [18:37] nlsthzn: 0.2 here.. At school it's often >30 [18:37] sjoe [18:38] much better [18:38] 8ta to the resque [18:38] lol [18:39] I have provided wifi but some traffic is rediculous [18:39] Maaz: agenda [18:39] nuvolari: Huh? [18:39] Maaz: agenda.link [18:39] nuvolari: *blink* [18:39] Maaz: meeting.agenda [18:39] nuvolari: meeting.agenda is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20140923 [18:40] Events -> "//TODO" lol [18:40] Maaz: start meeting about Monthly Ubuntu-ZA IRC meeting (September 23, 2014) [18:40] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [18:40] Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt [18:40] nuvolari: Alrighty [18:40] Maaz I am Miles Sharpe [18:40] Kilos: Alrighty [18:40] Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction [18:40] Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction [18:40] oh hi everyone :) [18:40] welcome to tonight's meeting [18:40] ohi stranger [18:40] thank you for everyone's time [18:41] Maaz, I am Neil Oosthuizen [18:41] nlsthzn: Done [18:41] thank you oom kilos for reminding me... I have forgotten [18:41] lol [18:41] meh, new job is tough. my boss is uber-smart [18:41] * Kilos thinks interest in meets is waning [18:42] the fly send apologies but life took over [18:42] got an offer from google but he declined [18:42] sjoe [18:42] superfly: congratulations to you and mrs. fly on the little one :D [18:42] + [18:42] +1 [18:43] alrighty [18:43] any new members since last time? [18:43] if you have not read that question before tonight, you're a candidate [18:43] theblazehen login please [18:44] Maaz: I am Jeandre Henderson [18:44] theblazehen: Sure [18:44] hmm [18:44] Maaz: seen kmf [18:44] nuvolari: kmf was last seen 4 years, 1 month, 4 days, 7 hours, 35 minutes and 42 seconds ago in #glug.za on freenode [2010-09-10 04:08:51 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2010-09-10 04:09:18 PDT [18:44] StonedAlchemist login please [18:44] :'( [18:44] is it really that long? [18:45] yip [18:45] login on what? [18:45] inetpro and theblazehen went to sfd [18:45] nlsthzn: Karl Fischer I assume? [18:45] ? [18:45] nlsthzn: kmf [18:45] StonedAlchemist type in maaz I am :name: [18:46] Maaz I am StonedAlchemist [18:46] "name" [18:46] StonedAlchemist: Righto [18:46] no man name not nick [18:46] I have no idea [18:46] theblazehen: yeah [18:46] that's him [18:46] Maaz I am "name" [18:46] StonedAlchemist: Done [18:46] rofl [18:46] lol [18:46] Eh what's that do? [18:46] * Kilos kicks StonedAlchemist [18:46] you're really stoned [18:46] nuvolari: ah. Find him hilarious.. In a good way [18:46] :P [18:47] Nah not that stoned. [18:47] Maaz: topic review previous minutes [18:47] Current Topic: review previous minutes [18:47] http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2014-08-26-18-30-22.txt [18:48] https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152297627960764&set=a.10152297624365764.1073741829.720760763&type=1&theater I look crap in photos... [18:48] inetpro ping [18:49] which one is you? [18:50] lol @ Miggie [18:50] er [18:50] Muggie [18:50] Kilos: very right, at back [18:50] aha [18:50] oh wait, is that a real name? Muggie? [18:50] you look the youngest there [18:51] If you're here Muggie, own your name, it's awesome! [18:51] Kilos: think I was 2nd, but youngest in photo [18:51] one is never too young to promote OSS [18:51] *FLOSS [18:52] nuvolari i dont think there is much to talk about [18:53] nothing exciting happening in ZA land in regards to Ubuntu etc? [18:53]