| bluesabre | what did I miss? | 00:33 |
|---|---|---|
| knome | nothing i guess | 00:34 |
| bluesabre | I saw the translations pad | 00:35 |
| bluesabre | anything for release notes, or are we doing those on the site? | 00:35 |
| knome | a pad would be good i guess | 00:35 |
| bluesabre | looks like beta is not on the iso tracker yet :( | 00:36 |
| knome | i thought pleia2 was downloading the ISOs but maybe i misunderstood | 00:37 |
| pleia2 | no, that's why I was frowning | 00:38 |
| knome | aha | 00:38 |
| elfy | images building shortly | 06:41 |
| elfy | ochosi bluesabre knome - http://pad.ubuntu.com/b2notes | 07:31 |
| ochosi | morning everyone | 09:02 |
| knome | oi elfy | 09:07 |
| knome | hai ochosi | 09:07 |
| ochosi | hey folks | 09:07 |
| slickymasterWork | Unit193 can you check something, please? | 09:10 |
| slickymasterWork | the docs aren't displaying the translators credits | 09:11 |
| ochosi | i'm a bit busy today, but if any of you could ping me when the b2 iso is available, that'd be great | 09:11 |
| slickymasterWork | if that end up happening ochosi, I'll do it gladly | 09:17 |
| slickymasterWork | knome: ^^ about the translation credits | 09:22 |
| knome | yes, noted the comment | 09:23 |
| knome | and boo | 09:23 |
| slickymasterWork | don't boo Unit193!!! | 09:23 |
| slickymasterWork | ;) | 09:23 |
| slickymasterWork | knome, still re: http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-apps-translations there's one other app I remembered that might be included as 'Used by Xubuntu' which is Gigolo. What do you think? | 09:32 |
| slickymasterWork | I know it's just a GUI frontend for mount, but nonetheless | 09:32 |
| knome | gigolo is an xfce project | 09:33 |
| slickymasterWork | ?! isn't it debian? | 09:33 |
| knome | nope, part of the xfce goodies package | 09:35 |
| slickymasterWork | ok, we're always learning :) | 09:36 |
| bluesabre | morning folks | 09:50 |
| knome | hey bluesabre | 09:51 |
| bluesabre | hey knome | 09:51 |
| bluesabre | sucks that we are alphabetically last in line | 09:52 |
| knome | heh | 09:52 |
| knome | i guess it also saves us some headache | 09:52 |
| knome | if images are obviously bad, we don't even get testing before that so there's no false alarms | 09:52 |
| bluesabre | thats true | 09:52 |
| knome | it'd suck to be edubuntu ;) | 09:53 |
| slickymasterWork | morning bluesabre | 09:53 |
| bluesabre | morning slickymasterWork | 09:54 |
| bluesabre | how are things? | 09:54 |
| slickymasterWork | alright | 09:55 |
| slickymasterWork | hope that you you too | 09:55 |
| slickymasterWork | - one you :P | 09:55 |
| bluesabre | yeah, its morning so I'm sneezing endlessly for a while, other than that, things are great... I actually got 7 hours of sleep last night :D | 09:56 |
| knome | i got like 5 hours good sleep | 09:56 |
| knome | then wife called from work and meh | 09:56 |
| knome | :P | 09:56 |
| slickymasterWork | allergies due to the beginning of autumn | 09:57 |
| slickymasterWork | ? | 09:57 |
| bluesabre | yeah, I think so | 09:57 |
| slickymasterWork | bummer | 09:59 |
| knome | better that than something worse | 09:59 |
| slickymasterWork | yeah, like having to work every day and not being able to surf instead :P | 10:00 |
| knome | ahahah | 10:02 |
| bluesabre | elfy: so we still have all these issues with the final beta, and it affects all flavors? | 11:05 |
| bluesabre | hadn't realized it, but looks like the isos are up | 11:11 |
| ochosi | they are? | 11:12 |
| bluesabre | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/324/builds/80014/downloads - http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/324/builds/80015/downloads | 11:23 |
| * ochosi downloads | 11:25 | |
| bluesabre | yesssss, virtualbox loaded without vt-switching | 11:25 |
| knome | :) | 11:26 |
| slickymasterWork | ochosi: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/324/builds beta 2 images are up | 11:27 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, heh, too late | 11:27 |
| knome | 14:11 bluesabre: hadn't realized it, but looks like the isos are up | 11:28 |
| knome | 14:12 ochosi: they are? | 11:28 |
| knome | 14:17 » slickymasterWork [c28ceece@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.140.238.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] | 11:28 |
| knome | 14:23 bluesabre: | 11:28 |
| knome | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/324/builds/80014/downloads - | 11:28 |
| knome | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/324/builds/80015/downloads | 11:28 |
| knome | awwh stupid paste | 11:28 |
| ochosi | thanks for the ping though :) | 11:28 |
| knome | 14:25 * ochosi downloads | 11:28 |
| ochosi | knome: and thanks for the stupid paste ;) | 11:28 |
| bluesabre | pingggggg | 11:28 |
| slickymasterWork | damn stupid connectivity I have at work :P | 11:28 |
| slickymasterWork | always getting timeouts | 11:29 |
| ochosi | 14.10 looks extremely perrrty by default :D | 11:32 |
| ochosi | nice work everyone! | 11:32 |
| bluesabre | did vbox work without a hitch for you as well? | 11:33 |
| ochosi | yup | 11:33 |
| bluesabre | elfy ^ | 11:33 |
| ochosi | only issue i saw was the black ubiquity wallpaper issue | 11:34 |
| bluesabre | yup, that one is still hanging around | 11:35 |
| bluesabre | hopefully when this install finishes, lightdm will also work correctly | 11:35 |
| ochosi | not too sure what's up with that. in the past it was a matter of the ubiquity background setting code, iirc | 11:35 |
| bluesabre | I think its something that just has to break one per cycle | 11:35 |
| ochosi | :] | 11:35 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: don't forget to report your installation on the tracker ;) | 11:43 |
| ochosi | sure, already have the page open ;) | 11:44 |
| bluesabre | lightdm issue is still there | 11:54 |
| bluesabre | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1371651 in case you missed it | 12:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1371651 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Daily does not boot into graphical interface after installation" [Critical,Confirmed] | 12:00 |
| bluesabre | gotta run now, bbl | 12:00 |
| elfy | knome: it'd be great to be edubuntu ... nothing to do till 16.04 ;) | 12:14 |
| knome | lol | 12:17 |
| ochosi | right, yeah, looks like i got the lightdm bug too | 12:17 |
| elfy | ochosi: if it's vm and one person's got it I would hope everyone does :) | 12:18 |
| ochosi | sure | 12:18 |
| elfy | I'll check it all out later on hardware as well | 12:20 |
| ochosi | so well, i can confirm the two known issues | 12:21 |
| ochosi | and the rest seems fine | 12:21 |
| ochosi | other than the installed version not working, it's all fine :D | 12:21 |
| elfy | yea - everything has been good except those things for ages :) | 12:21 |
| elfy | ind plugin is crashing again | 12:23 |
| elfy | bbl | 12:40 |
| jjfrv8 | Not sure if I have a new bug or not. After 64-bit install, I get a black screen and can't do anything. After power off/on, get a kernel panic screen. | 13:06 |
| jjfrv8 | 32-bit and live are okay. This is on hardware. | 13:07 |
| ochosi | jjfrv8: that black screen on boot is lightdm failing, it's known | 13:09 |
| ochosi | in vms it happens with 32bit too | 13:10 |
| jjfrv8 | But shouldn't I be able to switch out of it? | 13:10 |
| GridCube | wich iso is more crucial to test, i think i can download at least one | 13:18 |
| knome | GridCube, check the ISO tracker and see which has less tests done | 13:34 |
| knome | FWIW, it seems likely there will be rebuilds. | 13:34 |
| GridCube | oh, well, i started the amd64 download, lets see if it ends before i leave work | 13:41 |
| elfy | ochosi: if you've input all your test results to the tracker and "<ochosi> other than the installed version not working, it's all fine :D" how come you've not failed the test? | 14:30 |
| ochosi | elfy: maybe i've not paid enough attention when filling out the test | 14:31 |
| elfy | jjfrv8: go to vt1 and start the lightdm service - if it works then it's the same bug everyone is seeing | 14:31 |
| elfy | ochosi: ok - definitely a fail? | 14:31 |
| ochosi | well live session and install went fine | 14:31 |
| ochosi | only post-install didn't | 14:31 |
| elfy | the boot into the install failed yes? | 14:32 |
| ochosi | yup, adding that one now | 14:32 |
| elfy | I've done it | 14:32 |
| elfy | edited your pass one to a critical fail | 14:32 |
| ochosi | k, ty | 14:33 |
| elfy | welcome - just wanted to make sure it was a fail :) | 14:33 |
| xubuntu95w | Quick Question: Are the daylies still b0rked or can they be installed? | 15:19 |
| slickymasterWork | xubuntu95w: both | 15:21 |
| slickymasterWork | they're still borked but they can be installed | 15:21 |
| slickymasterWork | xubuntu95w: Bug #1371651 is still present | 15:22 |
| ubottu | bug 1371651 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Daily does not boot into graphical interface after installation" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1371651 | 15:22 |
| slickymasterWork | so after installation you'd have to go to vt1 and start the lightdm service | 15:23 |
| xubuntu95w | ok. Better Question: Would it be better to install the B1 and let the upgrade take effect or install the daylies (b)rked as they are? :) | 15:23 |
| GridCube | :) | 15:24 |
| GridCube | so besides the manual starting of lightdm service theres any other issue i should check? | 15:24 |
| slickymasterWork | if you're planning on something other than testing I wouldn't advise you eithrt | 15:24 |
| xubuntu95w | huh, I use autologin, so do I really care about lightdm? | 15:24 |
| slickymasterWork | s/ either | 15:24 |
| xubuntu95w | I can wait. | 15:25 |
| GridCube | elfy, the manual boot counts as a non-pass? | 15:26 |
| slickymasterWork | GridCube: just do the Post-install testcase and if you have same time you can do any of the http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/316/builds/67147/testcases ones | 15:26 |
| slickymasterWork | yes GridCube, if you have to manually force the boot | 15:26 |
| GridCube | alright | 15:26 |
| GridCube | slickymaster, i don't have the time to test those all, is there any particular one that needs reviewing? | 15:28 |
| GridCube | i like the new wallpaper :D | 15:29 |
| slickymasterWork | the ones in Testsuite A GridCube ~ | 15:29 |
| GridCube | P: i would like to see a version of it with the ears pointing the other side too | 15:30 |
| slickymasterWork | yeah, knome did a fabulous job on it | 15:30 |
| GridCube | :) | 15:37 |
| elfy | GridCube: yea - manually having to start the boot is a fail - the bug is a critical bug too :) | 16:15 |
| GridCube | done | 16:15 |
| Unit193 | slickymaster: https://unit193.net/xubuntu/fi/ln-idp27021812.html - https://unit193.net/xubuntu/pt/ln-idp27648076.html | 18:05 |
| slickymaster | yes, Unit193, but they're not showing up niether in yesterday daily and today's beta | 18:33 |
| slickymaster | lol, knome is a great pt transçator | 18:33 |
| slickymaster | * translator | 18:33 |
| knome | very much | 18:34 |
| * slickymaster doesn't doubt knome's language skills | 18:35 | |
| * slickymaster goes back to the kitchen to finish dinner | 18:35 | |
| elfy | or finnish it | 18:36 |
| knome | ;) | 18:37 |
| elfy | re testcases - I have no way to do entire or resize tests on hardware, so if someone else does - tia :) | 18:45 |
| ochosi | evening all | 19:04 |
| knome | hello ochosi | 19:04 |
| elfy | hi ochosi | 19:08 |
| knome | Unit193, talk to me :P | 19:09 |
| knome | Unit193, why aren't the translator credits working? | 19:09 |
| slickymaster | hey ochosi | 19:11 |
| ochosi | wow, everybody's here :) | 19:11 |
| knome | my mum isn't. | 19:11 |
| Unit193 | knome: "I don't know translation stuff" is all I can figure out so far, everything looks good. | 19:11 |
| knome | Unit193, did you run a ISO test today? | 19:11 |
| Unit193 | knome: Finishing up now, why? | 19:12 |
| knome | just wondering if you can confirm they worked or not | 19:12 |
| slickymaster | you won't see the credits on that iso Unit193 | 19:12 |
| knome | then why is that? | 19:12 |
| knome | is there something wrong in the build? | 19:12 |
| Unit193 | Right, I know it fails, have it in the utopic system now. Just saying, that the buildlog and deps all look right. | 19:12 |
| knome | i mean, at build time | 19:12 |
| slickymaster | something went wrong for sure knome | 19:13 |
| knome | right | 19:13 |
| Unit193 | I know where it fails, but not why. | 19:14 |
| knome | Unit193, will you look at it? | 19:14 |
| knome | aha :) | 19:14 |
| knome | tell me if i can help. | 19:14 |
| Unit193 | Sure, TEXTDOMAIN/LANGUAGE vars are failing to take affect. | 19:14 |
| ochosi | knome: wait, was that a "my mum"-joke? | 19:14 |
| knome | ochosi, a mix between that and reality. | 19:15 |
| ochosi | knome: you're weird :) | 19:17 |
| knome | well my mum is weird. | 19:18 |
| slickymaster | lol ochosi there are worst | 19:18 |
| knome | there are worse or they are the worst? | 19:19 |
| slickymaster | you choose knome | 19:21 |
| knome | :P | 19:21 |
| Unit193 | knome: On a utopic system? | 19:21 |
| knome | Unit193, nope, but if VM is ok, then tomorrow | 19:24 |
| Unit193 | If you know what's missing for those vars, or if something is broken in utopic. :P | 19:27 |
| knome | why would i know that? :P | 19:28 |
| Unit193 | You know weird stuff. :D | 19:30 |
| Unit193 | === Xubuntu community meeting in 20 minutes @ #xubuntu-devel === | 19:40 |
| Unit193 | knome: Yeah, missing dep it looks like. | 19:41 |
| knome | Unit193, which dep? | 19:50 |
| Unit193 | Something that's installed on a normal install. | 19:51 |
| knome | aren't utopic installs normal installs? :P | 19:52 |
| elfy | no | 19:52 |
| elfy | a normal install boots to a desktop knome :p | 19:52 |
| knome | hah | 19:52 |
| Unit193 | knome: vs buildd chroot. | 19:52 |
| Unit193 | elfy: So, do you have to start lightdm every boot? | 19:52 |
| knome | well i don't understand much of that ;) | 19:52 |
| bluesabre9 | freenode webchat is having some serious issues today | 19:53 |
| ochosi | oh meh, but hi bluesabre9 :) | 19:53 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre9: kiwi? | 19:53 |
| elfy | Unit193: in a vm on an install done since the bug appeared - yes | 19:53 |
| Unit193 | Aha, just asked as second boot was using that other init, and didn't have the problem. | 19:53 |
| bluesabre8 | maybe now | 19:54 |
| elfy | Unit193: so systemd boots ok? | 19:55 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Yeppers, though didn't try to swich first boot after install. | 19:55 |
| elfy | k | 19:55 |
| elfy | useful information :) | 19:55 |
| === bluesabre8 is now known as bluesabre1 | ||
| === bluesabre1 is now known as bluesabre0 | ||
| bluesabre0 | alrighty | 19:56 |
| knome | many blue sabres | 19:57 |
| Unit193 | So we can duel. | 19:57 |
| bluesabre0 | yes | 19:58 |
| elfy | Unit193: thanks for that snippet :) | 19:59 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Sure thing. | 19:59 |
| Unit193 | Not 100% sure it helps, as I'm already using out of repo sources. | 19:59 |
| elfy | well it works on one I installed an hour ago | 19:59 |
| Unit193 | #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting | 20:00 |
| Unit193 | #chair ochosi knome | 20:00 |
| Unit193 | Howdy and welcome to the Xubuntu community meeting. Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings | 20:00 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Sep 23 20:00:35 2014 UTC. The chair is Unit193. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 20:00 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 20:00 |
| meetingology | Current chairs: Unit193 knome ochosi | 20:00 |
| elfy | pfft | 20:00 |
| pleia2 | o/ | 20:00 |
| bluesabre0 | o/ | 20:00 |
| slickymaster | o/ | 20:01 |
| knome | o/ | 20:01 |
| ochosi | o/ | 20:01 |
| bluesabre0 | connection is shaky, but I'm here | 20:01 |
| Unit193 | Think that's everyone. | 20:01 |
| Unit193 | #topic Open action items | 20:01 |
| Unit193 | So we have: Review artwork for UIF that done then? | 20:02 |
| ochosi | yup | 20:02 |
| knome | yep | 20:02 |
| Unit193 | So, do we #done that? | 20:02 |
| knome | if you wish, or just not mention it | 20:03 |
| ochosi | yeah, let's just never speak of this again ;) | 20:03 |
| Unit193 | Then: marketing team to support Xfce's bug bounty program by informing people via website and social media | 20:03 |
| ochosi | i did see something about that on g+ | 20:04 |
| ochosi | pleia2? | 20:04 |
| Unit193 | I remember seeing something earlier this week on that. | 20:04 |
| pleia2 | oh yes, that's done | 20:04 |
| pleia2 | #done marketing team social mediaed the bounty program | 20:04 |
| slickymaster | lol | 20:04 |
| Unit193 | Yey! | 20:04 |
| Unit193 | #topic Team updates | 20:04 |
| Unit193 | Free for all. | 20:04 |
| knome | there was somebody whining about that in twitter | 20:05 |
| elfy | awesome - we get a new word too :) | 20:05 |
| knome | the bounty program, not team updates | 20:05 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre0: Recent uploads? | 20:05 |
| knome | they were concerned that "rich people" just get their feature requests landed and it makes xubuntu less equal.. | 20:05 |
| bluesabre0 | recent uploads: xubuntu-artwork, xubuntu-default-settings, xubuntu-docs | 20:06 |
| Unit193 | Heh, that's upstream Xfce, not really Xubuntu feature requests. | 20:06 |
| knome | Unit193, yes. | 20:06 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre0: #info ? | 20:06 |
| pleia2 | #info marketing team created a Donations page for folks who want to know how to finacially support Xubuntu http://xubuntu.org/donations/ | 20:06 |
| ochosi | knome: really? i guess i should get a twitter account one day... | 20:07 |
| knome | #info ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu was updated for 14.10 | 20:07 |
| bluesabre0 | #info recent uploads: xubuntu-artwork, xubuntu-default-settings, xubuntu-docs, catfish, menulibre, light-locker-settings | 20:07 |
| slickymaster | pink ftw | 20:07 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Anything from QA? | 20:07 |
| elfy | yep | 20:07 |
| ochosi | #info Everything is now pink! | 20:07 |
| ochosi | #undo | 20:07 |
| meetingology | Removing item from minutes: INFO | 20:07 |
| ochosi | ;) | 20:07 |
| elfy | #info Core Testing - that's worked out nicely and we've had more reports for that than beta 1 | 20:08 |
| Unit193 | Wow. | 20:08 |
| ochosi | \o/ | 20:08 |
| ochosi | congrats Unit193 and elfy | 20:08 |
| knome | #info 14.10 installations on virtual machines are still broken, QA team looks into it | 20:08 |
| elfy | # Beta 2 testing - currently everyone is having problems with lightdm - possibly going to get some respins | 20:08 |
| knome | yes, good work! | 20:08 |
| elfy | BUT | 20:09 |
| elfy | I do not want that to stop people testing - it's not an excuse for team to not test | 20:09 |
| elfy | I hope we get better reports from us for this beta | 20:09 |
| elfy | #info Elfy will be cross | 20:10 |
| ochosi | :} | 20:10 |
| bluesabre0 | haha | 20:10 |
| ochosi | well first we need betas that run post-install i guess | 20:10 |
| elfy | #action Team to test beta regardless of lightdm issue - it can be booted to desktop afterwards - workaround is on the mailing list | 20:10 |
| meetingology | ACTION: Team to test beta regardless of lightdm issue - it can be booted to desktop afterwards - workaround is on the mailing list | 20:10 |
| slickymaster | I don't see a reason why post-install shouldn't be runned | 20:10 |
| Unit193 | elfy: You seem to have missed '#info'. | 20:11 |
| knome | elfy, i've zsynced stuff and scheduled time for tomorrow, so unless something really critical work-related pops up.. | 20:11 |
| bluesabre0 | any word from lightdm folks about a possible fix before thursday? | 20:11 |
| knome | slickymaster, s/runned/ran/ | 20:11 |
| elfy | bluesabre0: I've not asked | 20:11 |
| slickymaster | yeah | 20:11 |
| bluesabre0 | ok | 20:11 |
| ochosi | bluesabre0: last time i looked, robert was still asking for logs | 20:11 |
| elfy | knome: yea - I understand - but we've got till Thursday evening - tomorrow is only Wednesday | 20:11 |
| knome | bluesabre0, we've been talking about this in #ubuntu-quality, so people know our concerns... | 20:11 |
| ochosi | which seemingly aren't there | 20:11 |
| knome | elfy, yes, about thursday i'm not so sure so better do something tomorrow ;) | 20:12 |
| elfy | ochosi: you can't get lightdm logs at the point of fail | 20:12 |
| bluesabre0 | yeah, no logs are generated | 20:12 |
| ochosi | yup | 20:12 |
| ochosi | isn't that what i said? :) | 20:12 |
| knome | somebody said lightdm wasn't even starting in ubuntu | 20:12 |
| ochosi | at least we're not the only ones... | 20:12 |
| elfy | ochosi: you said thaqt when I was typing | 20:12 |
| elfy | :) | 20:12 |
| knome | ochosi, repetitio mater studiorum est | 20:12 |
| elfy | knome: lightdm in vm isn't starting for anyone | 20:13 |
| ochosi | knome: right, and variatio delectat (i.e. say it in as many ways as possible) | 20:13 |
| elfy | #info lightdm bug only appears to be affecting vm's | 20:13 |
| knome | ochosi, and: quod scripsi, scripsi (elfy's reply) | 20:13 |
| ochosi | knome: hehe, let's continue the latin-battle post-meeting | 20:14 |
| knome | elfy, i mean if it's not starting, how could it produce logs :D | 20:14 |
| elfy | oh right | 20:14 |
| elfy | anyway - all from me for now :) | 20:14 |
| Unit193 | Alright. That it for team updates? Seems the discussion iteams were talked about last time, need to rehash still? | 20:14 |
| knome | unless it was crashing at startup | 20:14 |
| ochosi | elfy: if i'm not mistaken, jjfrv8 said he also saw it on one of two hw installs | 20:14 |
| knome | hr hr :| | 20:14 |
| elfy | oh one more thing from me | 20:15 |
| elfy | #info b2 tests - hardware entire and auto-resize are priority if possible | 20:15 |
| knome | i *might* be able to run one | 20:16 |
| elfy | knome: I don't see any reports from jjfrv8 re fails | 20:16 |
| knome | elfy, i wasn't the one who said that | 20:17 |
| elfy | knome: ack | 20:17 |
| knome | but i saw jjfrv8 saying that | 20:17 |
| elfy | well it's not reported as such | 20:17 |
| knome | 16:06 jjfrv8: Not sure if I have a new bug or not. After 64-bit install, I get a black screen and can't do anything. After power off/on, get a kernel panic screen. | 20:17 |
| * skellat checks in rather late for the meeting | 20:17 | |
| bluesabre0 | no extra machines for me atm... | 20:17 |
| slickymaster | but he didn't report any failures in the tracker | 20:17 |
| knome | wait, you saw it as well elfy.. | 20:17 |
| knome | aha | 20:17 |
| elfy | yea saw that | 20:17 |
| Unit193 | Same here, bluesabre0. | 20:17 |
| elfy | but I'm not going to remember all that people say when I'm not here - I'll be working from the tracker :) | 20:18 |
| knome | fair engouh | 20:18 |
| knome | enough too | 20:18 |
| bluesabre0 | :) | 20:18 |
| ochosi | yeah, i agree, ppl should report their tests | 20:18 |
| knome | jack usually reports, so maybe that was some kind of mistake | 20:19 |
| elfy | knome: yep agreed | 20:19 |
| ochosi | elfy: i don't have an extra computer at the moment, so auto-resize and entire won't be doable for me on hw | 20:19 |
| elfy | I think if people are seeing lightdm fails in hardware it's really important to note it in the bug | 20:20 |
| elfy | ochosi: same here - the one I usually use is dead atm | 20:20 |
| knome | elfy, i guess one more bug to file against the tracker... notifications per product | 20:21 |
| elfy | not sure I understand - but we could have 5 mins later if you've time | 20:22 |
| Unit193 | Alright, so if there are no objections, I believe we'll move on. | 20:22 |
| elfy | wfm | 20:23 |
| Unit193 | #topic Discussion items | 20:23 |
| Unit193 | #subtopic Review and discuss default configuration | 20:23 |
| bluesabre0 | I think thats done and over with... unless there are any other complaints? | 20:24 |
| Unit193 | #undo | 20:24 |
| meetingology | Removing item from minutes: SUBTOPIC | 20:24 |
| Unit193 | #subtopic QA Incentives | 20:24 |
| knome | yeah, that's fine. | 20:24 |
| elfy | has anyone anything else to add to that discussion? | 20:25 |
| Unit193 | Agenda had further discussion on that one, so figured might be. | 20:25 |
| knome | qa incentives? | 20:25 |
| skellat | Nothing at this point from my end so far | 20:25 |
| ochosi | elfy: wanna #info the link to the pad again? | 20:26 |
| elfy | knome: http://pad.ubuntu.com/QAIncentive | 20:26 |
| elfy | ochosi: :p | 20:26 |
| knome | i think it's a good idea as long as we clearly decide what we will be offering and make sure we have the resources to get those. | 20:26 |
| elfy | #info http://pad.ubuntu.com/QAIncentive | 20:26 |
| ochosi | well line 39 still needs and answer imo | 20:26 |
| ochosi | just to know how far we would get and how soon we would have to think of new ways to get funding | 20:27 |
| knome | i'd say 3-4 cycles. | 20:29 |
| knome | depending how much stickers we can get for free during that period | 20:29 |
| knome | plus the books | 20:29 |
| pleia2 | stickers and books are pretty much immediately available, t-shirts take longer | 20:30 |
| knome | yes | 20:30 |
| skellat | Pursuant to all sorts of US federal regulations, I have to formally stipulate that I am not giving tax advice or tax law counsel with respect to any discussion of financial matters. | 20:30 |
| skellat | That being said, we do need to ensure that while we do this we do not also create any liabilities for anybody. It may be a small amount of money now but planning ahead is appropriate. | 20:30 |
| skellat | Besides, can we do some other form of trinket like ink pens in addition to stickers? | 20:30 |
| skellat | Or even key fobs? | 20:30 |
| pleia2 | can add ideas to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Marketing/Projects | 20:31 |
| knome | unixstickers.com currently handles the stickers, so if we wanted some other office stuff, we'd need to get a vendor | 20:31 |
| pleia2 | but finding high quality vendors is a whole process | 20:31 |
| knome | yes, especially considering the shipping can't be $50 to europe. | 20:31 |
| knome | or the US. | 20:31 |
| skellat | That's why I wanted to throw the ideas out there | 20:31 |
| bluesabre0 | yeah, looking at you ubuntu store | 20:31 |
| knome | pleia2, do you still have the ping-pong-ball machine? | 20:31 |
| elfy | I'd be inclined to stick with what we have for the moment and carry on thinking - we can always add later | 20:32 |
| ochosi | weeee, ping-pong balls | 20:32 |
| ochosi | yeah | 20:32 |
| knome | as a conclusion, | 20:32 |
| ochosi | i agree | 20:32 |
| elfy | it's more about recognition in my opinion than what it is physically | 20:32 |
| knome | i think it's ok to give away anything as prizes that are official marketing assets | 20:32 |
| knome | yes, that | 20:32 |
| pleia2 | I do | 20:33 |
| elfy | you do what? | 20:33 |
| pleia2 | have the ping pong ball machine! | 20:33 |
| knome | pleia2, then that's one relatively cheap option. | 20:33 |
| elfy | pleia2: aah | 20:33 |
| knome | i can even make custom SVG's with winner names or sth | 20:33 |
| pleia2 | not in terms of my time :) and I don't know how to ship them | 20:33 |
| knome | pleia2, right, that of course... feel free to opt-out :) | 20:33 |
| pleia2 | it's kind of a finicky thing | 20:34 |
| knome | pleia2, put in bubble-wrap, ship | 20:34 |
| knome | if it breaks, ship again | 20:34 |
| knome | :D | 20:34 |
| elfy | without the needle the second time | 20:34 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 20:34 |
| bluesabre0 | haha | 20:34 |
| knome | maybe we could look into printing onto balloons :PP | 20:34 |
| knome | those would be easier to ship | 20:34 |
| elfy | not sure he'd like that knome | 20:35 |
| knome | not inflated, that is | 20:35 |
| skellat | But would Mr. Skaggs be okay with being printed on? | 20:35 |
| knome | i'm sure he'd do that for the community. | 20:35 |
| elfy | :) | 20:35 |
| bluesabre0 | :D | 20:35 |
| knome | anyway, let's move on | 20:35 |
| elfy | yep | 20:35 |
| Unit193 | #topic Announcements | 20:35 |
| Unit193 | #info Beta 2 on the 25th | 20:36 |
| elfy | if we're lucky | 20:37 |
| skellat | #info skellat remains on AskUbuntu patrol and even brought up an issue there relative to our flavor: http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/11946/tagging-xubuntu-when-ubuntu-is-meant | 20:37 |
| Unit193 | Anyone? | 20:37 |
| elfy | no announcements from here | 20:37 |
| bluesabre0 | any freezes around the corner? | 20:37 |
| bluesabre0 | nope, not really | 20:38 |
| knome | nope | 20:38 |
| skellat | bluesabre0, I think the Kernel team have one coming up | 20:38 |
| Unit193 | Next one is final, so that'll be a bit. | 20:38 |
| knome | next freeze is final freeze on oct 16 | 20:38 |
| knome | heh | 20:38 |
| knome | fwiw, | 20:38 |
| slickymaster | on october, 9 -> kernel freeze | 20:38 |
| knome | #info All affecting freezes are added to the team calendar at http://xubuntu.org/team-calendar/ | 20:38 |
| knome | slickymaster, not affecting us | 20:39 |
| Unit193 | At least directly. So who's next for the meeting? | 20:39 |
| elfy | slickymaster | 20:39 |
| knome | slickymaster, want to schedule now? | 20:40 |
| elfy | might be useful to have one next week post beta | 20:40 |
| slickymaster | nopes, not yet | 20:40 |
| skellat | #info Questions that need answering if people are not busy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/xubuntu | 20:40 |
| knome | elfy, yep. | 20:40 |
| Unit193 | #action slickymaster to schedule the next meeting. | 20:40 |
| meetingology | ACTION: slickymaster to schedule the next meeting. | 20:40 |
| knome | slickymaster, once you are ready, ping me and i'll add it to the calendar | 20:40 |
| slickymaster | thanks knome, but there's no need, I can do it | 20:41 |
| ochosi | nice | 20:41 |
| Unit193 | Any objections? | 20:41 |
| knome | slickymaster, oki! | 20:41 |
| knome | nope | 20:41 |
| Unit193 | #endmeeting | 20:41 |
| Unit193 | Thanks for being here. | 20:41 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Sep 23 20:42:03 2014 UTC. | 20:41 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2014/xubuntu-devel.2014-09-23-20.00.moin.txt | 20:41 |
| elfy | thanks Unit193 :) | 20:42 |
| slickymaster | thanks Unit193 | 20:42 |
| pleia2 | thanks Unit193 | 20:42 |
| bluesabre0 | thanks Unit193, nice meeting | 20:42 |
| bluesabre0 | :D | 20:42 |
| bluesabre0 | bbl | 20:42 |
| knome | ta | 20:43 |
| Unit193 | Welcome. | 20:43 |
| Unit193 | So I'm only to send a stub, not the actual summary to the list? | 20:49 |
| ochosi | thanks Unit193 | 20:52 |
| knome | either works from my POV | 20:52 |
| Unit193 | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2014-September/010422.html | 20:57 |
| elfy | night all | 21:05 |
| Unit193 | G'night. | 21:05 |
| knome | nighty elfy | 21:06 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: FYI. Standards-version 3.9.6 was released, but I believe Ubuntu is going to generally follow .5 for utopic: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist | 21:54 |
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